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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] I don't think most people in this thread understood the new data on Haplogroup E So therefore they divert to a done to death before debate on Afroasiatic [/qb][/QUOTE]This forum is ridiculous sometimes. Even if the subject of a thread would the study determining Ramses III to be E1b1a, there's will be some people trying to connect it to Semites or Europeans... [/qb][/QUOTE]Proto-Semitic speakers were originally believed by some to have first arrived in the Middle East from Africa, possibly as part of the operation of the Saharan pump, around the late Neolithic.[14][15] Diakonoff sees Semitic originating between the Nile Delta and Canaan as the northernmost branch of Afroasiatic. ______________________ Ehret et al. (December 2004). "http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/citation/306/5702/1680c The Origins of Afroasiatic McCall, Daniel F. (1998). "The Afroasiatic Language Phylum: African in Origin, or Asian?". Current Anthropology 39 (1): 139–44. doi:10.1086/204702. ISSN 0011-3204 [/qb][/QUOTE]As you know I don't believe in the Afro-hamitic family (pun intended), but I must also consider the possibility that I am wrong about this. It's not a big deal either way. It's always possible Semitic speakers to be people who in their history switched language with the arrival of some African speaking people. Since most modern scholars agree that Afroasiatic has an African origin. Semetic speakers in Arabia have limited ancient African admixtures. They have some but not a lot of African E, A and B haplogroups for example (some recent some older). So at some point, "future" Semitic speakers who are now mostly from F haplogroups (like J, T) would have to have switched languages to speak an African language (now called Afro-Asiatic). Later on, Semitic speakers (mainly Arabic and future ethio-Semitic speakers) migrated to Africa, admixing with people while spreading the Arabic, Ethio-Semitic languages and the Muslim religion. Affecting through borrowing the language of Cushitic and Chadic speakers (often people converted to Islam which use a text in Semitic/Arabic language, even if we must take into account most people didn't know how to read in the past). Recent genetic studies date the arrival of Semitic speakers in modern Egypt and modern East Africa to around 750 and 3000 years ago respectively [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009235]*[/URL] [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009135;p=1]*[/URL] . I don't have to say that it is well after the foundation of the Ancient Egyptian state and precursor cultures like Badarian, Naqada, Tasian, Nabta Playa, etc. This is just to say that either way it doesn't detract for the African origin of Ancient Egyptians. Ancient DNA taken from actual Ancient Egyptians mummies is all I need. The rest is just a big bonus (archaeological continuity/indigenous Africans, post-cranial analysis, genetic analysis on modern populations, etc). [/qb][/QUOTE]Arab ethic groups are diverse. And like too so in genetics. J1 likely arose at the Sinai aka South Levant, and diverted from there in-and-out of Africa. [IMG]http://www.arcane.uni-tuebingen.de/rg1/sl1.gif[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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