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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mansa Musa: [b] Even though the Cleopatra incident is a straw man promoted to discredit ANY claims to a Black African Egypt and I do agree with Hore, I'll play devil's advocate for a second. We are arguing about the plausibility of Cleopatra's Grandmother not being Greek but is it not just as possible that the Ptolmaic bloodline was "miscengated" with Egyptian or Nubian blood generations down the Ptolmaic line making them noticeably partially Black generations before Cleopatra or even her Grandmother came into the picture? I believe it is possible. But I don't believe it was likely. This link sums that situation up pretty well. [URL=http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcleopatra.html]http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcleopatra.html[/URL] As you and all of us who know the first thing about Greek xenophobia have said Djehuti the Ptolemies came from a culture where the world was split into Greeks and barbarians. Mixing the blood of the Greek/Macedonian royal families with that of a non-Hellenic people was a concept on the level of blasphemy. Alexander the Great, who thought highly of the advanced cultures to the east who before his time ruled the world, tried to merge Hellenic and Persian culture into one by marrying Persian royalty and having his generals and soldiers take on Persian and Asiatic wives. This behavior was highly unusual during Alexander's time period. It was one thing to take foriegn women as concubines, it was something entirely different to take them as wives bearing a multicultural heir (race wasn't really a working concept then culture was the main discrimination line) to the throne. Alexander's men were so opposed to his viewpoints that there were actually assassination attempts on his life, motivated by his love for foreign culture and his attempts to enforce it on his subjects. See the movie Alexander for a dramatization of such events. As far as what Multisphnx was saying Beanpiee looking at Egyptian art compared to its neighbors is a nice simplistic way of dealing with the "did they look White" argument. If what you wanted for this forum is opposition you aren't going to get it, they have been well beaten on this subject. If you want someone to try to convince you that the Egyptians were White so you can see the evidence for their claims go to a search engine and type in "Nordic Desert Empire". Its a White Supremacist "history" page. They'll show you pics of "blonde" and "red" mummies. Images of Pharaohs taken at a side profile in hopes that it will look like a White nose enough to the average view. Pics of known foregeries. Images that are not even depicting Egyptians and pass it off as them and even images of execration customs such as King Tuts sandals and pass them off as depictions of racial imagery. All kinds of nonesense. There is even an refuting "Afrocentric lies" page where the author builds up straw men issues against what he calls "Black Supremacists" and attempts to knock them down in seemingly convincing but factually erroneous fashion. Here is another look at native Egyptian royals compared to Egyptian foreigners who at one point ruled Egypt after the time of the native Pharaohs. People typically see what they want to see in artwork even in statues. Which image do you think looks most like the original Pharaohs?: [b]Old Kingdom[/b] Narmer Menes First Dynastic Pharaoh [IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/narmer.jpg[/IMG] [b]Middle Kingdom[/b] Amenemhat III: The 6th king of the 12th Dynasty [IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/amenemhatIII.jpg[/IMG] [b]New Kingdom[/b] Akhnaten: "The Heretic King" 18th Dynasty [IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/akhnaten.jpg[/IMG] [b]Macedonian Occupation era[/b] Macedonian King Alexander the Great (European) [IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/AlaxanderBust.gif[/IMG] [b]Assyrian Occupation era[/b] Assyrian King Esarhaddon (Asiatic) [IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/Esarhaddon.jpg[/IMG] [b]25th dynasty: Nubian Occupation era[/b] Nubian Pharaoh Shebitku (Other African) [IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/shurikenjay/NubianPharoahShebitku.jpg[/IMG] In my opinion the native rulers of Egypt look far more like the Nubian Pharaoh facially than they do the non-African rulers of Egypt. Ofcourse these are only 6 busts it is easy to be selective but there are plenty of other busts that can be compared. This isn't the most scientific way to approach the race debate but it is a clear refutation for those people who say the Egyptian images "Don't look Black". [/B][/QUOTE] I didn't bring up Cleopetra being white to debunk a Black Egypt. I was simply pointing out that certain dynasties were foreign. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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