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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] Why did you post that? Talk about morality while the Christian church allowed the massacre of hundreds if not thousands in the Reformation. What about the savage bloodshed of the crusades by so-called religious Islamic and Christian armies? What about the savage wars of conquests by the Muslims and forced conversions of peoples all over the world? What about the slavery practiced and condoned by Islam and Christianity? What about the genocide in America done in the name of Christianity? Christianity and Islam are TOOLS of Empire, used to keep subject populations in control and to glorify the might and authority of European "pagans" who are no more moral than a speck of dirt on the ground. Then it says that Christianity did away with culture based on ethnicity! Surely you must be joking, as the white European Christ was FORCED down the throats of many NON European ethnic groups. So I guess killing off these PAGANS and SAVAGES and promoting white European values and empirical domination was somehow non ethnic? Please. Religion and history do not mix. Religion is story, fable and words written on paper. History is people, places, things and events. Whatever a religion preaches is something TOTALLY separate from what it PRACTICES. TALK about morality and the absensce of ethnic divisions is ONE thing, but PRACTICING it is something TOTALLY different. The same goes for Judaism, Islam, Christianity and any other religion. Of course, all religions promote themselves as the ONLY religion that man is supposed to believe in, and THAT is the cause of the immoral wars, ethnic conflicts and persecution of Christianity, Islam and other religions. The abrahamic religions of Islam, Christianity and Judaism have been responsible for more suffering than any other religion or empires in history. The number of people killed in the name of Christianity or Islam far outstrips those killed in warfare in the thousands of years prior to the birth of these religions. Yet these religoins claim to be better than the pagan gods of old. At least the religions of old OPENLY expressed their sexuality and did not practice IMMORAL acts in the shadows, all the while TALKING about sexual abstinence. This board is about history, not about preaching and I do not want to talk about the merits of Christianity, Islam or Judaism. What I am talking about are the events that occured as a result of the actions of followers of those religions. THAT is history. Wise up to what this is all about. The origins of Christianity and Islam share the same roots in the world of the Byzantine Empire and the division of what was once the Egyptian system of temples into the Monophysites and anti Monophysites. The Christians believe in the God incarnate in Jesus Christ and the Muslims believe that God is HIDDEN from view, unknown and unreachable by man. In Islam it is forbidden to talk of God as if you KNOW him in the first person or anything ABOUT his nature. This is strictly against Islamic teaching. You can worship and praise HIM, but not try to understand the nature and scope of gods divine being. Basically what this boils down to is a theology based on an INCARNATED god based on the body of Jesus, versus a tradition of prophets, with Mohammed being the last prophet, like Jesus, with god remaining unseen from view. Read this carefully: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10489b.htm This site tries to convey the sense of the division in the early church, but the writing is purposely convoluted. The reason is that the ARGUMENT was about making ONE man the sole representative of gods divine presence or spirit in mankind, versus the divine nature of god in ALL things, nature, plants, animals, humans, as seen in ancient religions. They try and crouch it in terms of Jesus, to make it seem like it is about a historical FACT of Jesus, but in all actuality they are ARGUING about the theological and philosophical principles of the logos, divine nature and all sorts of stuff that the Greek philosophers, Egyptians and many others before them had invented. Many call these arguments forgeries, since they introduce argument on authority, in other words, promote their ideas based on the authority of some other writer or writers, whether or not those WRITERS actually bore witness to or had access to anything from the apostles themselves. Investigating these other writers, people are beginning to question the basis of these arguments, since the source material does not seem to exist or does not have the historical legacy that is claimed (ie. not written by the apostles, but someone else copying something likewise written on authority). [/QB][/QUOTE]
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