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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ashait: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ABAZA: [b]Your words show that you have fallen into the mental trap of slavery. If you go to India, Asia, South America, and maybe even Europe, you'll meet people who share your skin color, but are of a different racial affinity and race.[b] "I can tell that you're still quite young and naive." [/b] [/QUOTE] now, now, now, lets not resort to name calling, but if I’m naive, then you are most certainly narrow minded. My "mental trap" is the years of subtle and overt racism taught and the expression of that racism in popular culture, government policies, representations of history, etc. I’m trying to break free. I’m sure this has been discussed here before, but people try to quantify race all the time just to prove that race exists. The US “one drop rule” amuses me to no end. These categories were put in place to separate the human race. Nothing makes racism more powerful than being able to (genetically!) prove that I am different from you. The point I was driving was that race is a SOCIAL construct. A statement that one of my anthropology professors used back in college was ‘if aliens came to earth, they would be so confused by our racial categories- they don’t make any sense. It would make more sense to group people based on height b/c that is clearly a quantifiable measurement.” Now, that’s the Truth! See the problem here is that humans created these racial groupings, and now when a group doesn’t fit so easily into a given category, there is a mad scramble to make them fit. The AEs are a perfect example. Abaza, while I vehemently disagree with your POV, you can argue a good case that they are white. Conversely, many on this board make just as good a case for them being black. If they didn’t, there would be nothing to debate! And yes I am aware that there are Indians that are darker than I but they aren’t socially grouped as Black. Should they be? Maybe -since skin color is usually used as a racial marker. But I can tell you this; any dark-skinned-non-black would most certainly not have been able to sit in the front of the bus in 1950s Mississippi. They would have been right in the back with my black ass. [QUOTE]Originally posted by ABAZA: [b] The second point whether, you like it or not, is that all Egyptians are able to check off the box, "White" or "Caucasian" on all Government Forms in the U.S., I hope you are beginning to get the hint by now!! [IMG]http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/wink.gif[/IMG] [/b] [/QUOTE] European scholars have spent years trying to discredit African Civilizations. Berating their contributions to modern civilization, even going as far as making outlandish claims that structures unquestionably created by so called “Black Africans” must certainly have been built by Europeans who somehow sailed over to Africa thousands of years ago, put up these structures, then left with out leaving any trace of their involvement. The movement to de-pigment Egyptians to the point where they can “check the white box” is a related to this. Because if you allowed them to check the white box, you would be admitting that Egyptians, and therefore Ancient Egyptians were a black people. Current racist ideology won’t allow that. Now you also said “all Egyptians are ABLE to check the box”, what I want to know is do all of them do so? And you if answer “yes”, lets not forget that given the history of race relations in the US, many people, if given the opportunity, would gladly travel the road of the less oppressed and say “IM WHITE”. Ever herd of something called ‘passing’ in the African American community? [QUOTE]Originally posted by ABAZA: [b] Your comments are typical of an African American, who is a Tourist and wants to believe the Lies and Fake Psuedo-History that was taught to him in his Black Biased Schools without actually taking the time to understand the people and the culture of Egypt. [/b] [/QUOTE] Um…aren’t I “taking the time to understand the people and the culture of Egypt” by respond to this forum when I should be responding to client emails… There are two sides/viewpoints to every story, I’ve chosen my side and I find it interesting that when a “young and naive woman” takes the time out to indulge her deep interest in an Ancient Civilization and learn more by visiting the country, joining forums, and reading both traditional and non traditional schools of thought, your reaction is to jump on her like a pack of wolves. Savages! And just for the record, I’m not that young, and sure as hell not naïve. Now it’s been fun, but I must get back to work, I just heard my managers whip crack. “Truth is a matter of interpretation.” - the author of this quote escapes me… [/QB][/QUOTE]
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