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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marc Washington: [QB] Sorry but just have a minute and just browsed the posts before this point and will probably say things others have. Please accept my apologies. To my knowledge, the first time Caucasians reached a critical mass was in the Andronovo culture on the Russian Steppes near 2300 BC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture This group was basal to those who become known as the IndoEuropeans though their origins were neither Europe nor India. They began dwelling with the African phenotyped Maikop culture (I have figurine showing this) which existed on the Steppes from near 4500 BC to maybe 2100 BC. Other African pheontype groups were the initial stages of the Sarmatian, the Scythians, the Parthinians, and others. In later phases they were white and recorded history starts with their white phase over-looking the African. They travelled in all directions and became a part of Anatolia when it was in the African phase and entered Bulgaria, Dacia (Romania), Greece, Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, China, Finland. Linguists never clearly tell the point, but I think it can be proven that African populations spoke what would be characterized as Germanic languages in Anatolia and this was learned and carried on by the Andronovo people later to be called by history Anatolians. There is some interesting proof that Africans spoke the initial and highly developed form of this Germanic, Indo-European language as the Tokarians spoke Indo-European but the earliest figurine of Tokarians shows they are African - although history calls them a white people (and they were in their later phase but not earliest phase). In each place whites eventually supplanted the indigenous populations and recorded history is blind to the populations predating them and attributes the features of those indigenous populations to the incursive groups that supplanted them and adopted their language, culture, and ways. I'm sorry, but what we consider Western civilization I think is best characterized as borrowed civilization. Later I will make a web page showing the extensive, prehistoric African populations on the Russian Steppes, Iran, and such places where early recorded history took place. If you follow the path of whites into history, at one point you will find immense and often total destruction to the villages, towns, and cities wherever they went and indigenous people enslaved wherever their people travelled. They get a lot of undue credit for harnessing civilization. That Western civilization is borrowed I think can find support in the fact that, yes, philosophy rests with Socrates who is typically portrayed white but is likely of African phenotype and I'd say orientation. You might consider this page: http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/700_mediterranean/02-16-700-02.html Best regards, Marc Washington [/QB][/QUOTE]
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