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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Mr. Toomy please, you should know by now that you can't play your smoke and mirror games with me. We both know you have (Still)use Nubian interchagibly from a True Nigro to a Mixed Tolken Black Abid for your "Perfectly Caca-Zoid NAs" when it suits you.[/QUOTE]Yes because both types are and were present in Sudan. [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Lower Egyptians maybe, but Upper Egypt had closer ties to those Blubbery Lipped True Negros in Nubia. Your lot can post every DNA study under the sun, you can post every "Ca-Ca-Zoid" statue and quote every racialist Bio-diversity scholar you want... You can spam We Wuz Kangs and Call people Hoteps all you want It WONT EVER E V E R Change the Historical [b]FACT[/b] that Egyptian Culture stemmed from Africans further South, and that BLACK skinned what you all call Nubians In Ta Seti were incorporated as Egyptians as Early as the 1st Dynasty, Produced Sutens as early as 4-5th( Definitive by 12th), Were the Aristocracy/Kings Sons of Kush through Middle and New Kingdom and were the last to write Mdu-Ntr on the Temple walls of Kmt. They were there 3,000 year history of Dynastic Egyptian history and are still there today... You'll Never take that away from them, you can hide it and pretend its not real, but you can't take that away.[/QUOTE]I don't see how that's an argument ? Did I deny any nubian presence in Egypt ? I literally said that nubians could and did acquire high positions in Egypt. Anyway it won't change anything of what I said ; Egypt as a whole still had more ties with the middle east than any other regions and the presence of levantines in the history of this region is also well attested and as old as the nubian one. Nubians are nubians and were depicted as eternal ennemies of Egypt in the official iconography no matter how much they used to interact with Egypt they still are not egyptians. stick to facts pls : [QUOTE] [b]Ancient Egypt was no exception, with state ideology portraying Nubians and other foreigners as barbaric, uncivilized, and likened to animals[/b] (see the text that follows, and also Loprieno 1988; Liverani 1990; Smith 2003). [/QUOTE]A companion to Ethnicity in the ancient mediterranean, pp. 194-195 [QUOTE] [b]The evidence clearly shows that those Greco-Roman authors who refer to skin color and other physical traits distinguish sharply between Ethiopians (Nubians) and Egyptians, and rarely do they refer to the Egyptians, even though they were described as darker than themselves. No Greek doubted that the Egyptians were darker than the Greeks, but not as dark as black Africans[/b] [/QUOTE]Shavit, Y. (2001). History in Black: African-Americans in Search of an Ancient Past. London: Frank Cass. p. 154. I repeat myself : I never denied the presence of Nubians in Egypt nor their strong ties with it. [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Produce one quote of mine Post 2019 where I claim that the Saharan berbers represent all Berbers. How many times do I have to agree with you? Then again Mr. Toomy gonna do Mr. Toomy things.. :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE]You literally used to post pictures of black tunisians and implied they were representative of the ancient ones. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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