...
Post A Reply
my profile
|
directory
login
|
register
|
search
|
faq
|
forum home
»
EgyptSearch Forums
»
Egyptology
»
Unknown Man E and Ramses III Y haplogroup
» Post A Reply
Post A Reply
Login Name:
Password:
Message Icon:
Message:
HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] Rainman said:: [b]Aside from peripherals of the Sahara, and remaining Saharan oasis(s), Lake Chad, and the river Nile, what is the evidence of mass settlement of Saharan migrants elsewhere? [/b] No one has argued for massive settlements. As the Sahara dried up people moved to better locations, and migration to Lake Chad and the Nile are pretty good locations, compared to desert. Those who settled near the Nile, in conjunction with other southerly cultures were to go on and do some pretty amazing things. [b]Can you tie any of the specific practices shared in the examples presented to the evidence of the cultures in the ancient Sahara? [/b] Some referenced in thread and keep in mind that there is much overlap between the Sahara and other regions. Thus there is no monolithic Saharan zone segregated off from everything else. The Sahara is a shifting entity, cutting across multiple territories and cultures, like the pastoralist traditions that dominated the key area of Nabta Playa. [b]Some Chinese scholars have made the argument that Chinese civilization came from none other the civilizations of the river Nile. On a cool Sunday evening in March, a geochemist named Sun Weidong gave a public lecture to an audience of laymen, students, and professors at the University of Science and Technology in Hefei, the capital city of the landlocked province of Anhui in eastern China. But the professor didn’t just talk about geochemistry. He also cited several ancient Chinese classics, at one point quoting historian Sima Qian’s description of the topography of the Xia empire — traditionally regarded as China’s founding dynasty, dating from 2070 to 1600 B.C. “Northwards the stream is divided and becomes the nine rivers,” wrote Sima Qian in his first century historiography, the Records of the Grand Historian. “Reunited, it forms the opposing river and flows into the sea.” In other words, “the stream” in question wasn’t China’s famed Yellow River, which flows from west to east. “There is only one major river in the world which flows northwards. Which one is it?” the professor asked. “The Nile,” someone replied. Sun then showed a map of the famed Egyptian river and its delta — with nine of its distributaries flowing into the Mediterranean. This author, a researcher at the same institute, watched as audience members broke into smiles and murmurs, intrigued that these ancient Chinese texts seemed to better agree with the geography of Egypt than that of China..... In the past year, Sun, a highly decorated scientist, has ignited a passionate online debate with claims that the founders of Chinese civilization were not in any sense Chinese but actually migrants from Egypt. He conceived of this connection in the 1990s while performing radiometric dating of ancient Chinese bronzes; to his surprise, their chemical composition more closely resembled those of ancient Egyptian bronzes than native Chinese ores. Both Sun’s ideas and the controversy surrounding them flow out of a much older tradition of nationalist archaeology in China, which for more than a century has sought to answer a basic scientific question that has always been heavily politicized: Where do the Chinese people come from? [/b] He can make the argument but he has little credible evidence in support. Old legends and stories can provide useful background but they are thin soup on which to make a major case as he is attempting to do. And just because a bronze resembles something in China does not make for any migrations to China to start civilization. Similar ores appear in different parts of the earth, and people trade long distance without any significant migration of cultural impact. Chinese pottery appears in East Africa’s Swahili cities but few go around making the argument that the Swahili cultures & cities are due to ancient Chinese migrants. These “diffusionist” claims can be fascinating but they too often lack credible evidence. They are also a double-edged sword as many want to use them to downplay or dismiss indigenous developments in Africa and attribute such to some foreign source. [b]What are you talking about? A statue of Thutmosis was found all the way in the Congo. It was only reported by the French. That is a size and distance that rivals that of the entire continent of Europe. [/b] What credible evidence can you provide as to this Thutomsis of the Congo? When? Where? Says who? Supported by whom? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Instant Graemlins
Instant UBB Code™
What is UBB Code™?
Options
Disable Graemlins in this post.
*** Click here to review this topic. ***
Contact Us
|
EgyptSearch!
(c) 2015 EgyptSearch.com
Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3