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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doctoris Scientia: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doctoris Scientia: [qb]Biologically Greeks are mush more biologically related to populations in Southwest Asia then they are to people in Northwest Asia or Europe. The genetic distance between a Palestinian and a Greek is half that of the genetic distance between a Greek and a Northern European. To mean white means Northwest Asian or European, a people who share a relatively recent common ancestor, and who are historically, culturally, and biologically intertwined. Greeks if not for it's influence on Rome and therefore Europe remains an outliner. While there are some Iranians who look "white", most of them are distinctively Southwest Asian, they have features that are no different from peoples from across that region. Even if the skin tone of that populations varies. for every "white" or "European looking" Iranian, you'll have a very dark skinned Southern Indian looking Iranian or a very East Asian looking Iranian. Greeks look like Persians because they are biologically Southwest Asian. There's a reason why Kim K., who's from Armenia is not considered white by most people. Also, the second man you posted is the predomiant "type" in Iran and surrounding locals, even in Armenia and Georgia. The "white" looking ones are usually found in the extreme locals of the Iranian nations towards Russia, and even there the majority of the people look like the second man. The reason why you can group Africans under one domiant banner, Saharo-Tropical Africans, is because of their unigue origin on the African continent. Obvious shared cultural, historical, and physical attributes. And lastly, Africans being the "root" of the human species. You have to look at Africa in a different perspective then you do in regard to other non-African regions. ...the fact that they speak in a obviously British accent makes it even more annoying. Northwest Asia and Southwest Asia are two distinctive human populations, the same for Central and Southern Asia. They may share some similarities, but they are all distinct. Most people today do not consider Iranians white, since most Iranians do resemble Europeans. I mean most Frenchmen are characterized by darker skin, but most people consider them European or "white". Most Iranians and Persians would have looked like this: http://www.joshdweiss.com/photoblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/090628_JDW_Iran_0006.jpg http://z.about.com/d/journalism/1/0/U/2/-/-/iranian_protest_election_results_31.jpg http://www.minnpost.com/client_files/alternate_images/8541/mp_main_wide_IranianProtesters452.jpg http://iranfootballonline.com/UserFiles/Image/Legionnaires/Nekounam/Interview.jpg http://www.leelau.net/chai/images/Iran/iran_oldman3.jpg http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ei40oz&s=5 http://www.payvand.com/news/08/sep/Iran-SaudiArabia-Soccer1.jpg these are minorities European looking Iranian http://media.photobucket.com/image/white%20looking%20iranians/mugworticus/Yahya_Rahim-Safavica_2003-2006.jpg African looking Iranian http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/Dec97/abadan.jpg Dark skinned Iranians http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/troe434.jpg East Asian looking Iranians http://www.acappellanews.com/images/hht.jpg [/qb][/QUOTE]To be white means to have white or very pale skin. It is often used as a relative term, hence, white Persians versus black aboriginal Indians. White skin is not unique to Europe. When I say white I do not imply a social, cultural or close biological relationship. Whites can look the same and be genetically distant. Just like a black man in Africa can look like a black person in Asia or the Pacific and not be biologically close. So don't misunderstand what I say when I use the term white or black. It is not being used as a term intended to be a catch all phrase for everything about a people or a person. It is simply a description of physical features. Some people from Iran have features just like some people from Europe. And it only makes sense. The only people trying to pigeonhole white into meaning northwest European is historically white racists and nationalists. But that meaning is only 200-300 years old and has nothing to do with ancient whites prior to 1500 AD. The book below deals with this: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=a+history+of+white+people&aq=f&aqi=g8&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Cq1BpKegCTNe_CJuIzQT0soytBQAAAKoEBU_QDKjC&fp=1328cd8acda262ff I certainly don't subscribe to that nonsense about white as a racial type being defined by certain features other than skin color. White to me means very pale. It doesn't matter what eye color, nose shape, hair color or any of the other things that some (primarily 18th and 19th century racists) use to define white. That is tantamount to claiming that because East Africans have different features than central Africans in general, that they are not both black. This is nonsense. The Chinese are white just like Europeans. Please don't even pretend to claim that they are not since they are not from Europe. That has nothing to do with it. But I do agree that Persians do have some distinct features and that the "European type" is not the majority of the population. Iranians: [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/3118398601_6dd3c92722.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/aadamus/3118398601/in/set-72157611562615100/ [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/3144872519_7fc06720b8.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/aadamus/3144872519/in/set-72157611562615100/ Iranian American (closer to the game character IMO) [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3649617992_b96aff4a2c.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/sibabi/3649617992/ Prince of Persia: [IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2774/4098982907_7e7405b391.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/poofy/4098982907/ Human facial features are not strictly limited by geography or nationality is my only point even though generally features among populations are different from place to place. Teenage girl from Iran: [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/3655067661_bdb3727247.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/moocat/3655067661/ Funny thing though, in Greek mythology the Son of Perseus and Andromeda (an Ethiopian princess), Perses, is the legendary ancestor of the Persians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perses_%28son_of_Andromeda_and_Perseus%29 [/qb][/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the information! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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