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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hotep2u: [QB] Greetings: Clyde Winters wrote: [QUOTE] This is the point I am trying to make: the [b]Nubians were not Kushites[/b] .If they were not Kushites, how could they have played a role in Meroitic literacy? I have asked you this question a million times please answer it now :If the Nubians were not Kushites how can Rilly use proto-terms constructed via Nubian languages to read Meroitic, a writing systems the Noba / Nubians never employed to write any of their inscriptions throughout their literate history? [/QUOTE]Nubianism breeds *CONFUSION* you were warned, to lose the Ancient Nubia myth. Remove the LUMPING all groups located in the Southern Nile Valley regions as Nubians and Nile Valley Civilization becomes less confusing. You were challenged before when you made the Natufians were Nubians claim. Natufians were Afrikans proved to be more factual. [QUOTE] Originally posted by kenndo: 2. Upper Nubia's First Kingdom? The Pre-Kerma Culture The site of Kerma, about 10 miles (16.5 km) south of the Third Cataract, and about 350 miles (580 km) upstream (south) from Aswan, is known to have been that of the largest city in the Sudan during the period about 2000-1500 BC. Although we do not yet know its ancient name, [b]Kerma was the probable capital of the first Nubian state to call itself Kush[/b] , and there is every reason to believe that this phase was the latest of a major town that had already existed here continuously for two or three thousand years. This isolated but highly fertile region of the Nile Valley, between Sai Island and the Fourth Cataract, was uniquely suited for human settlement, independent cultural evolution, and state formation. It was on a wide low-lying plain, which the Nile irrigated with multiple channels, creating many islands. In antiquity greater rainfall stimulated seasonal growth of grasses in the plains and enabled the residents to raise cattle on a grand scale. Whatever king could achieve political power over this district could control all river traffic between Egypt and the lands to the south - traffic from which he could collect tolls, receive gifts, and amass great wealth. In 1986 the expedition of the University of Geneva, Switzerland, under the direction of Dr. Charles Bonnet, was excavating at the ancient city site of Kerma, which dates to about 2500-1500 BC. Beneath the cemetery of this city, about 1.5 mi (2.7 km) east of the Nile, they found ruins of a second, older town, dating from about 3500-2700 BC. [b]This town is now called the "Pre-Kerma settlement" and its culture the "Pre-Kerma." Mixed with these remains were traces of an even older town[/b] , [b]which have yielded carbon dates stretching back to about 4800 BC. [/b] [/QUOTE]Look at the above quote because this is what Nubianism breeds! Does Kenndo know *exactly* when Kerma was founded? Does Kenndo know what cultral practices deferentiates Kerma from Kemet? Does Kenndo know how and when Kerma evolved those practices that differentiates Kerma from Kemet? If someone finds ancients remains of people living in California from 5000-8000 years ago does that mean that person discovered a ancient Euro American, Mexican, Chinese, Afrikan culture or a Native American culture? Archaelogist who ignore *HISTORICAL TEXT* will always confuse their readers, because digging up artifacts and making assumptions based upon the artifacts alone is IGNORANT and illogical, just because the artifacts were found in the Kerma region doesn't make it pre Kerma because Nile Valley Civilizations existed before Kerma culture. Nile Valley area was a foundation for majority of native Afrikans so numerous historical Civilization will be found along the Nile river, so if we play the lump and dump all groups that show strong native Afrikan affinities into Nubians and those who show elongated features into Egyptians(presumably Caucasoid) game then Confusion will be the order of the day. Here is a early Map of the Nile Valley area please note that Rameses II temple is located in the area that Nubian myth makers like to call lower Nubia, though Rameses II didn't seem to think that was the appropriate name for his home town in the South. Take note that Rameses II builds the statue in the South to show some Kemetic Southern pride. [IMG]http://www.mein-altaegypten.de/Aegypten_Site/Aegypten_Site.data/images/Alt_Aegypten_1/Aegyptenkarte.jpg[/IMG] Hotep [/QB][/QUOTE]
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