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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] I have learned a lot from this forum and I really appreciate the input by both sides of the debate. I do find Evil E to be distasteful but at the same time his statements are what I have been taught most of my life and it has been quite interesting to hear most of them being debunked (note most not all). What is also interesting is that M Hellens thinks that the sides in the debate are the revisionist against the conservatives. However, the classical historians described the Egyptians as Black Africans, even the Bible cleary describes the Egyptians as Black Africans and assigning them to the race of Ham which has to be the racial group that peopled Africa after the flood according to this Jewish bit of literature. So if you are conservative it would seem to me that you must believe that ancient Egypt was at least started by Black Africans (who probably imported Caucausian females: remember the story of Abraham and why he didn't want to tell pharoah that Sarah was his wife - why would Sarah have been so intriguing to the Egyptians that the pharoah would be interested in her so much so that he would be willing to kill Abraham? Why would Abraham think this? Perhaps the Egyptians had a preference for light skin women? A lot of White missionaries have this same concern when they take their White wives into Africa with them. Just speculation but there must have been something unique about Sarah to make her a thing of desire to Egyptians in the mind of Abraham. Such preferences for caucausian women are common among black males and easily explains why Egypt became quickly mixed). Personally I think the Ancient Egyptians are a mixed people simply due to their location (Gateway location between 3 major people groups: Europeans, Asians and Africans), not to mention the history of conquest; both the Eyptians' conquest of others as well as they themselves being conquered. Consequently the reconstruction of Tut is primarily valid, however, the racial disegnation is hypocritical simply because it is well known that in American society that mixed people of Negroid and Caucausoid ancestry are considered Black. For example: Halle Berry and Alicia Keys are both considered Black even though a bust made of their skull would have similar features as this reconstruction of Tut. The person how made the reconstruction of Tut clearly stated that it was difficult to define the race of Tut due to mixed features (European nose with African cranial shape). Frankly, if we used this Caucasoid pseudo science to classify people like they did Tut, then 30% of most blacks in America would have to be re-classified as Caucausian. Its all just a matter of where you draw the race line between black and white. For 200 years in America it just wasn't commerically productive to racially reclassify African Americans based on phenotype since that would mean that numerous slaves would have to be freed because they were not negroid. Imagine slave traders being told that they couldn't sell certain African tribes due to their facial features! Truth of the matter is that caucausian looking African's were worth more money during the slave trade. But as to the spirit of the discussion in this forum, it is absolutely absurd to try to classify East African people as Caucausian. Its even more absurd to state that the OOA (out of africa) migrations somehow began with the so called Non-negroid East African people when the first groups to leave Africa must have been those that became the Australoids (Negritos) since they traveled the furthest from Africa. Or more of Evil E debunked theories;its absurd to claim that the Greeks had primitive negroid throwbacks when he clearly stated that the primitive people of the world were non-negroid since he claims that negroids only came into existance during the Hellocene perdiod. Beside, Angel cleary states negroid traits from Africa (probably Nubia). Again, special thanks to TopDog, Ausar, Thought2 and others for taking the time to educate those that visit this forum. I cannot say that I am convinced of the arguement for a Black Athens or that Egypt was a predominately Black African civilization (in order to convince me of that a discussion of cultural anthropology would be more useful), however, I am convinced that Black Africans played a far bigger role in shaping our present Western civilization than the hypocritical historians with their divisive double standards, bias racial beliefs and plain bigotry had ever given blacks credit for. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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