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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by markellion: In the 12th century they were already lighter skinned than the "Sudan" thus the use of the word. However the slave trade would have a major impact but slaves were also brought to the Mali empire and places like that[/QUOTE]Bilad al-Sudan in many Arabic literature of the Medieval period was from a general [i]geographic[/i] context rather than skin color, even though -- yes, the basis of the term is one of reference to skin color. The "Maghreb" was on the other hand, a general reference to coastal northwestern Africa -- again, a geographic context. I [i]highly[/i] question that from the use of those terms, especially in Eurocentric "translation" efforts, that you will be able to [i]materially[/i] put forward that "Tuaregs" are either not "black Africans" or that they are mutually exclusive of "sub-Saharan" Africans. As for the Almoravids; the group is said to have originated from around the Senegal River area. What does that mean to you? [/qb][/QUOTE]Thank you, Explorer, and I have been trying to tell Markellion the name Sudan also early on included the Arabian peninsula among Arabic speaking non-Arabs. Also, Sudan originally referred to a group of people that came from the tribe of Kenaana in their land south of Medina in the Asir. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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