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Irish: Predynastic Hierakonpolis crania have Eurasian affinity
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Oshun: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QUOTE] It [skin color] is not a political or social attribute. Skin color is a sociopolitical feature. [/QUOTE]No it is not. Skin color is a fact of biology, just like genes, ear shape, cranial shape and everything else.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you say the most out of touch stuff for someone whose supposedly black. Do you enjoy ruining threads to derail and argue over the dumbest sh!t? I'm not saying human features are not a fact of biology. But that doesn't mean that humans don't assign ideas and prejudices to those features which have real sociopolitical repercussions. In that sense human features and DNA have become politicized by humans even if though they are natural. [QUOTE]Nobody is talking about that, because that is cosmetic surgery which happens all over the planet. This does not change skin color into a non biological trait of humans. Come on man.[/QUOTE]It is a procedure done because people are being discriminated against for their features. Calling it "cosmetic" is not changing the REASON behind why millions of people across the planet are doing it. YOU stop "lying." And stop saying that nobody was talking about humans politicizing body parts to create this idea of race. I was talking about it! And I was NOT even talking to you. [QUOTE] Politicization of biological features does not make those features less biological. [/QUOTE]False dichotomies as usual. No one was denying these features biologically exist because they're politicized. [QUOTE]You cant blame skin color or any other feature for the existence of racism or other politicized aspects of human sociology. That makes no sense. [/QUOTE]Who said I was saying racism is justified? All I was arguing was that biological features are politicized which is fundamental to understanding the SOCIAL reality of race. Do you still want to argue over stupid sh!t or are you don-- you know what don't answer that. I'm not entertaining anymore of this fvckery from you. Sometimes I have to wonder if you've been planted here because you will singlehandedly nosedive important threads into the ground derailing on things that are ridiculous. You will carry on with this for pages if I let you, which I will not. So bark all you want I'll be ignoring you until you have something meaningful to say. [/qb][/QUOTE]Oshun stop trying to turn everything into drama. Discussing skin color in the context of biology is not politics. That is my point. And anybody who is doing honest research into biology has the right to discuss skin color just like any other aspect of biology without being considered being "political". What is political is trying to claim that since you don't agree (not necessarily you personally) on some particular biological assessment that somehow, now that aspect of biology is political and should be avoided. No it isn't is all I am saying. Folks playing games trying to duck and hide by moving the goal posts are the problem. So like I said, no matter what metric is discussed, social and political agendas can and will come into play and there is no need trying to avoid it. That is the point I was making. It wasn't a personal attack against you but you keep taking it that way. I fundamentally disagree with the idea that folks need to "avoid" certain topics because they feel it is "political". If you can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen is my philosophy. Meaning if you are following the facts and evidence honestly nothing should stop you from your pursuits. This was in response to this statement: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Oshun:[qb]Genetic information or not, if most of ES expresses the opinions you have (that Torres Strait Islanders/Aboriginals are black), genetics will have little meaning for people trying to prove race under the radar. it'll be back to craniometrics, collecting hair samples and watching white internet anthropology boards promise each other that their society couldn't possibly treat anyone with those features as black. But back to the main point: The mixture could've been in either direction. East Africa is where Eurasians left Africa and AE features were generally not outside the realm of possibility for indigenous adaptations. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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