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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [b] Actually, epicanthic (slanted) eyes occur among East Africans no more than they do West Africans! Epicanthic eyes have the highest frequency among South Africans, particularly the Khoisan people. As far as high-cheekbones, that seems to be a trait typical of many Africans of [i]all[/i] regions including West Africa. The European "nose" shape is moreso common in East Africa, but there are people in West Africa like the Fulani and Tuareg that have that, and East Africans don't have everted lips as frequently as say West Africans! You seem to be missing the point Osirion that phenotype does [b]not[/b] reflect genotype! Most modern day East Africans don't even closely resemble the first Out-of-Africans. But since Africa was the cradle, it would only be natural for blacks to be phenotypically diverse. As far as your "intelligent design", I really hate to bring religious belief into this issue. Not that I don't believe in a higher power, but science by itself has explained everything already without getting into the works of God. It is quite simple, phenotype is an adaptive response to an evironment and as humans we are diverse. End of story. [/B][/QUOTE] I find it interesting that many people believe in 'God' but deny that he has any place in our design. Science is about what is observable and since we really cannot observe evolution but rather can only make conjectures based on what is probable or statistically likely, I would argue that Evolution as we define it is only pseudo-science. As for genotype and phenotype; genes do determine what we ultimately look like. I think your point is that looks do not define your lineage. Just because someone has features similar to Europeans, this does not mean that they are related somehow. What we can surmise conclusively from pheontype is what kind of environment that person's ancestors have lived in for a considerable period of time. If we want to know relatedness which is what race is suppose to be about, then you need genetics. But you already know this. As far as West Africa is concerned. Keep in mind that East Africans migrated into West Africa in several waves. The Fulani, Tuareg, Tutsi are recent migrants from East Africa into West Africa. The people with the richest variety of phenotype and genetic diversiy are still the East African people. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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