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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] @Elmaestro It's not about a "hot seat". It's about posting evidence for your claims. You've not posted evidence for [b]one[/b] single claim you made and most of the time you're simply not making any sense. Here is one case in point, where you're just stating non-sense as fact: [QUOTE]Laz's Basal Eurasian has [b]two defining properties[/b]... 1. No SSA 2. No Neanderthal[/QUOTE]1) No analysis has ever shown that it's impossible for Basal Eurasian carriers to spread with some SSA or SSA-related ancestry. You made that up. Shame on you for doing this over and over again, just so you can attack an African origin of this component. 2) Populations carrying Basal Eurasian are said to have no Neanderthal in the sense that [b]they didn't inherit it during the introgression event 55ky ago[/b]. But this doesn't mean that the BE populations who lowered Neanderthal in Eurasia had no Neanderthal. Up to a certain percentage, BE populations could have picked up Neanderthal without it interfering with their ability to lower Neanderthal in Eurasia. This is just like African Americans who have Neanderthal, but they still can cause drops in Neanderthal in their interracial offspring. If an Afram male is 50% African, he will cause a 50% drop in Neanderthal in his interracial offspring (compared to his in-laws). It's a complete nonsensical fallacy that inheriting Neanderthal necessarily takes away Africans' ability to cause BE-like drops in Neanderthal. Yet this is exactly what you're saying. You're saying NE Africa is no longer a credible source of Basal Eurasian because NE Africans didn't lower the elevated Neanderthal in TAF. Aside from the fact that you have never proven that NE African migrants failed to lower TAF's Neanderthal, you have also never proven that inheriting Neanderthal makes NE Africans incapable of lowering Neanderthal in Eurasia. Your posts are filled with these kinds of half-baked arguments that only seem to impress YOU. You think you've posted evidence, but you never did. This causes the conversation to constantly go in loops because you act like you're posting evidence, but you're not. When I ask for evidence, you keep posting the same fallacies instead of actual evidence. [/qb][/QUOTE]Long story short... now you want me to prove Basal Eurasian is not characteristic of having no SSA and and Neanderthal. Everything I posted you've done the same thing... thrown hypotheticals. have me debating "how do you really know that's." while still conflating your personal truths with common knowledge. bro please understand that.... ...[b]I don't have to show NE africans didn't lower Tafs neanderthal.. I have to show Basal Eurasian[/b] [i]as defined by Lazaridis[/i] [b]didn't lower Tafs neanderthal[/b] [i]significantly[/i]. To which you just have to scroll up. You wan't me to provide evidence to disprove your hypothetical claims, so that you can give me another hypothetical problem to address. For instance I posted f3 problems and somehow you arrived at a conclusion that distance from NE-Africa increases the Z score as if Hadza are the most distant from NE Africa genetically and geographically. And also as if you don't know both YRI Hausa etc. has unique archaic introgression as west Africans. --but let me guess, you gonna wan't me to prove that Yorubans really have archaic admixture. or that the Hadza are really east Africans? -I explained that Neighboring BE harboring populations (to Africa) generally harbor more neanderthal than Iranians and Hotu... You ask for evidence that hotu and Iran_N doesn't have more NE African ancestry than nearby populations including an 15,000 year old North African. -Also, you seem to wan't me to prove that Hotu isn't the closets non African population to East Africans represented by the Dinka, the closest non-admixted african to Eurasians... which I won't do because that's a point [b]I[/b] brought to most peoples attention. However you're using this as evidence that Hotu has the most NE-African ancestry, which is either dishonest or a mistake on your part cuz even when we [URL=https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/02/20/268524]force African signals out of Neolithic Eurasians[/URL] These guys tend to come up short. [URL=https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzi0D1lrmvbEWW80aklOb2xfTUk/view?usp=sharing]From sheunamen 2017 [i]Abusir study[/i][/URL] [i]use the search function & start at K7 to save time [/i] [URL=https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzi0D1lrmvbEZjJuQmNCX3ItTWM/view?usp=sharing]From ME[/URL] -But lemme guess, Now I have to prove that East African signals in Natufians, PPNB, EEF etc. are indicative of NE african admixture or something just as bizarre Now you're telling me that broken components that loosely follows BE populations in [b]Modern Poulations[/b] are sister components (no way to prove this but I'll even accept that) when I made the observation that BE signals are extremely pervasive in ancient populations who DIRECTLY CARRY HIGH LEVELS OF BE. And somehow the proposed phylogenetic positioning of EEF and CHG are evidence against this. Are you arguing EEF ad CHG splat from North East Africans? lemme guess you wan't me to prove that they didn't? And lastly, You also want me to provide evidence for positions I did not even take (such as "NE african ancestry increases neanderthal"). -lets not forget how you swept aside loosdrecht's neanderthal stats, but I don't really care about that anymore. I had a simple premise, the shit ain't impressive.. but more and more researchers are leaning towards [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009961;p=1#000021]shit like this[/URL]. After I previously predicted this will continue to happen. [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009796;p=2#000106][i]One example[/i][/URL]. And for every supporting line of evidence, you retaliate with a hyothetical or a complaint about how researchers are lying and dishonest. [insert crying tyrese meme] what more do you want from me lol I'm not answering no more "maybe if's" Swenet... The main argument here is [b]whether or not Hotu followed by Iran_N are the most North East African populations ever sampled.[/b] You aren't saying a damn thing unless you're providing evidence that this is true. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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