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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Maahes: [QB] "Very interesting! So let me get this straight. You are Hadendoa, and therefore Beja?? Although I do not discount the more recent history of your family and clan, the ancient accounts you give I find more questionable. What are these ancient accounts based on?? Oral tradition, historical records, or archaeology?? Judging by what you say, I take it that you agree with the suggestion that the Medjay mercenaries employed by the Egyptians were the ancestors of modern day Beja (your people). Alot of the ancient accounts you give contain alot of elements I've read in your movie script, particularly the matrilineage and such. What does this have to do with the 18th dynasty? And what of the "oryx"?? Also, I find the account you give of the origins of your clan somewhat confusing. Do you say that your people originally came from the Western desert or Nile Valley?? Whatever the case it seems to corroborate with genetic findings about the close relation between Beja and Tuareg peoples. " I'm sorry to say that negotiation meetings are going on and todays posts are hurried and I am distracted. I want to really cover these topics thoroughly and objectively with careful attention to detail. But every ten minutes someone interrupts me and I have to go into another mindset. We are not Beja. The Beja are descendants of our tribal clan we are cousins. The Beja are members of our tribal clan. It is an oversimplification to say that we are one and the same people because the Beja do not follow matrilinear progression of water and land rights. Medjay were a caste of warriors. Ma'ahes were a caste of guards/stewards of the Oracle. Both have descendants. Each lineage is effected by the presence or absence of hereditary property laws of specific tribes. We are related and share ancestry and or history. Our origins are in the Western Desert others origins are along the Nile valley near present day Aswan or furhter upriver to the south- Those of us with hereditary land ownership in the Western Desert have different mothers than our cousins the Beja. Hadendoa is a modern term that helps define a group of peoples including ours. It is not entirely helpful or accurate. Our history is mostly oral but anthropologists, lingual archeologists and Egyptologists including Goneim have been helfpul. I must make it clear that the film story has nothing whatsoever to do with my family or peoples. We make no claims of relationship to any 18th dynasty rulers. If you are interested in clan mother designations please research sepats ( nomes) and search for the sepat of the oryx- the sepat of the hare - the sepat of the southern scepter etc. These are ancient markers of hereditary land owners whose tribal affiliations are integral to comprhending the socio-policial issues of ancient Egypt- have to go bell is rigning [/QB][/QUOTE]
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