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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big O: [QB] [i]"What do you mean where were those cultures?"[/i] Well where tf was that said in the quoted passage for one? [i]"or these were all home grown cultural traits tied to prehistoric traditions. It is a little of both."[/i] That is your inference, and I asked for specifics on these prehistoric traditions that explain why we see parallels in these various African peoples and ancient Kemet. [i]"What I am saying is for example many elements of the Nile Valley had an origin in cultures that were preliterate"[/i] I definitely agree with this, but the combination of these cultural elements in that place in time is what lead to the creation of dynastic Khamet. [i]"So if you are going to argue about diffusion you should first check to see if there are older archaeological evidences of some trait or tradition that predates the Nile before defending this concept."[/i] That has already been looked into. Unless there is an Atlantis in the ancient Alien Sahara like the one that Henry Lhote hypothesized that we generally don't know about then what else should we look for at this early period to explain these cultural overlappings. Better...Why is there a need to provide another explanation that has absolutely no basis in fact, but is meaningless conjecture? [i]"I never said West Africa was a people, as opposed to a region of Africa with a long history. To claim that all of that culture came from the Nile is disingenuous."[/i] That is something that again has been attributed to me that was never stated. The Mande and Nilo-Saharan speakers in the region did not come from Kemet from the evidence that I have seen. The Mande being NCish do have a Nile Valley-Nubian origin however. The Pygmies in the region have been indigenous there before the coming of the main NC branch that dominates the region today. [i]"What I am saying is that some of these traditions you claim originated from the Nile are part of an African cultural complex or pattern of complexes that has existed in some form for tens of thousands of years."[/i] What you are negating to acknowledge is that these traditions that are pointed out are often times linked to directly to the distinctly Khemetic religion centering around the honoring of Ausar. Why does it appear that you are trying to SO HARD to find ANYTHING to CREATE DOUBT on what is an apparent truth. You keep trying to negate this connection, when these groups (Akan, Yoruba, Bemleke, Igbo, Ewe, etc etc etc) literally have ORAL TRADITIONS of coming from Kemet with intricate details of historical events including NAMES. [i]"Dar Tichitt had mummification and that does not require Ausarian cosmology. If anything the Ausarian cosmology is tied to pre dynastic cultures from the Nile searching for water and oases as a part of survival in the once wet Sahara, which predates Dynastic culture. And many cultural elements are a result of those influences which also reached into other parts of Africa. Ancestor worship, the belief in some aspect of the soul surviving death and being able to communicate to dead ancestors is NOT unique to the Nile Valley."[/i] So... you keep trying to tear apart the culture unique to ancient Kemet, and shown in tact in the modern cultures of NC speakers, and then you turn around and acknowledge the undeniable parallel while claiming that they arose independently from unspecified but common African elements. That is YOU doing mental gymnastics to avoid acknowledging that NC speakers have a direct link to Kemet - Nile Valley civilization. [i]"Carving a bird on a stone did not come from Kemet. Now if there were heiroglyphs being drawn/carved that would be different, but come on carving a bird? Seriously?"[/i] The famous bird and serpent/Sekreh is evidence of this diffusion. [IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u440/Treday90/uraeustut2.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill[/IMG] [IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u440/Treday90/tumblr_no9rktsMxl1qjh37to1_1280.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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