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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big O: [QB] [i]"Well at least Cheik Anta Diop presents his material in a better way than Big O. But still, his theories are outdated, and some of his claims are plain wrong, as when he talks about negroid Phoenician."[/i] [IMG]https://oi1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Treday90/Phoenician%20man_zpsk85bfnfb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://oi1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Treday90/Phon1_zpseyiisd0c.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://oi1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Treday90/Phon2_zpss6r9ifbl.jpg[/IMG] Phoenicia was originally Black with noted phenetic affinity with "Niger=Congo" speakers until events in the second millennium BC. [i]"F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. (2008). Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements Human Biology - Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564 "A late Pleistocene-early Holocene northward migration (from Africa to the Levant and to Anatolia) of these populations has been hypothesized from skeletal data (Angel 1972, 1973; Brace 2005) and from archaeological data, as indicated by [b]the probable Nile Valley origin of the "Mesolithic" (epi-Paleolithic) Mushabi culture found in the Levant (Bar Yosef 1987). This migration finds some support in the presence in Mediterranean populations[/b] (Sicily, Greece, southern Turkey, etc.; Patrinos et al.; Schiliro et al. 1990) of the Benin sickle cell haplotype. This haplotype originated in West Africa and is probably associated with the spread of malaria to southern Europe through an eastern Mediterranean route (Salares et al. 2004) following the expansion of both human and mosquito populations brought about by the advent of the Neolithic transition (Hume et al 2003; Joy et al. 2003; Rich et al 1998). [b]This northward migration of northeastern African populations carrying sub-Saharan biological elements is concordant with the morphological homogeneity of the Natufian populations (Bocquentin 2003), which present morphological affinity with sub-Saharan populations (Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005). In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations;[/b] Angel 1972; Brace et al 2005), in concordance with a process of demic diffusion accompanying the extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)." "Following the numerous interactions among eastern Mediterranean and Levantine populations and regions, caused by the introduction of agriculture from the Levant into Anatolia and southeastern Europe, there was, beginning in the Bronze Age, a period of increasing interactions in the eastern Mediterranean, mainly during the Greek, Roman, and Islamic periods. These interactions resulted in the development of trading networks, military campaigns, and settler colonization. [b]Major changes took place during this period, which may have accentuated or diluted the sub-Saharan components of earlier Anatolian populations.[/b] "[/i] [i]"Also he claims megalith cultures are negroid, even if megalithic monuments in Europe (even up in Scandinavia) predates most similar monuments in Africa."[/i] The original people of Europe were "Negroid". The Grimaldi. [IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/57/b7/1f57b7b91bb68b2a8a0aa5a9ab82b6ff.jpg[/IMG] This was followed by the Negroid farmers moving from Northeastern Africa up the Levant and into Anatolia as described by Ricaut in the passage above. The Bronze age civilizations were developed and maintained by these tropically adapted African migrants. The Indo-European or White man did not come into Europe until 1,400-1,200 BC. All things before that period in Europe were African. [i]"Here he makes the same mistake as many diffusionists, mixing together monuments and cultural phenomena from different peoples, different time periods and from totally different geographical and cultural contexts."[/i] I think it's ridiculous to believe that distinct unrelated people with distinct cultures, lifestyles and beliefs could possibly make the same astrological monuments in the same or similar fashion. I think that a group of people or a common culture with a common origin (Africa) spread these ideas and beliefs everywhere around the World that they went. "And he still does not present any hard archaeological evidence." There is more than enough. [IMG]https://oi1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Treday90/27654511_813543055499468_3868016806185365500_n_zpsuhgmnr7s.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://oi1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Treday90/jrqln4_zpsjc0tdfoz.png[/IMG] Those legends are correct; [i]One of the first genetic studies this decade (2020's) that report on ancient Africans DNA confirms what C.A. Diop stated in "The African Origins of Civilization", and particularly on the page cited above! The first inhabitants of the West & Central regions of Africa were not "Niger-Congo" speaking populations, but instead were the Twa (so called "Pygmies"). ​ Ancient West African foragers in the context of African population history Mark Lipson, Isabelle Ribot, […]David Reich Nature (2020) Our knowledge of ancient human population structure in sub-Saharan Africa, particularly prior to the advent of food production, remains limited. Here we report genome-wide DNA data from four children—two of whom were buried approximately 8,000 years ago and two 3,000 years ago—from Shum Laka (Cameroon), one of the earliest known archaeological sites....However, the genome-wide ancestry profiles of all four individuals are most similar to those of present-day hunter-gatherers from western Central Africa, which implies that populations in western Cameroon today—as well as speakers of Bantu languages from across the continent—are not descended substantially from the population represented by these four people[/i] "You talk about your lineage. Are you Egyptian? have you relatives in Egypt? Can you through genealogy trace your ancestry to Egypt? Do you live in Egypt?" You deliberately use the word "Egypt" rather than Khamet, because you know that Egypt and Khamet are two different things. Find another trolling tactic. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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