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there is a thread suggesting that american new world blacks are from the lower rungs of west africa africans. if this is true then does that explain their lack of achievement in the americas.
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quote:Originally posted by Nadeed: there is a thread suggesting that american new world blacks are from the lower rungs of west africa africans. if this is true then does that explain their lack of achievement in the americas.
WTF
if you took the accomplishments of a mere 13% of America's population (African Americans, our hated underclass) and say that was it's own country, that would be considered a great country in it's own right. All that has been given to us from jazz to great inventions and food , culture
that says allot for America and African Americans
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Nadeed it's very easy to figure out your not what your claiming to be - the stereotypical ''hating all Africans on the continent'' facade accompanied by a few words learned through google won't statisfy your evil sinister needs and the rotten agenda to provoke a backlash towards the group your claiming to hail from
this bothers you alot hence all these retarded topics with insults projected at a diasporic group.
As a former moderator i will report your rotten comments to the owner, i'm sick of it.
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quote:The museum plans to highlight a little-known connection between its host state and the manuscripts of Timbuktu: the story of Ibrahima Abd ar-Rahman, an 18th-century prince from what is now Guinea who studied at Timbuktu before being sold into slavery in Natchez, Miss. The prince's saga contradicts another widely held Western belief -- that Africans sold in the slave trade were uncivilized. In fact, many were doctors, dentists, lawyers, professors, musicians and members of royal families. And a large number were Muslim.
quote:Originally posted by Nadeed: there is a thread suggesting that american new world blacks are from the lower rungs of west africa africans. if this is true then does that explain their lack of achievement in the americas.
This is false. Black Americans have made many accomplishments in America that have benefited the world --not just jazz. A few are listed below:
James S Adams #1,356,329, 10/19/1920, Propelling means for airplanes. George Edward Alcorn #4,172,004, 10/23/1979, Method for forming dense dry etched multi-level metallurgy with non-overlapped vias #4,201,800, 5/6/1980, Hardened photoresist master image mask process #4,289,834, 9/15/1981, Dense dry etched multi-level metallurgy with non-overlapped vias #4,472,728, 9/18/1984, Imaging X-ray spectrometer #4,543,442, 9/24/1985, GaAs Schottky barrier photo-responsive device and method of fabrication #4,618,380, 10/21/1986, Method of fabricating an imaging X-ray spectrometer Moses T. Asom #5,386,126, 1/31/1995, Semiconductor devices based on optical transitions between quasibound energy levels James Metthew Allen #2,085,624, 6/29/1937, Remote control apparatus David Baker #1,054,267, 2/25/1913, Railway Signal Apparatus #1,154,162, 9/21/1915, Signal Apparatus High Water Indicator for Bridges #1,620,054, 3/8/1924, Interliners to Prevent Tire Punctures Charles M Banks #1,758,640, 5/13/1930, Hydraulic Jack #1,774,693, 9/2/1930, Jack #1,893,757, 1/10/1933, Release Valve Andrew Beard #478,271, 7/5/1892, Rotary Engine #594,059, 11/23/1897, Car-coupler Lee S Burridge (co-inventor Newman R. Marshman) #315,366, 4/7/1885, Type-writing machine Gus Burton #2,351,002, 6/13/1944, Emergency landing runway Frank Alphonso Crossley #2,798,807, 7/9/1957, Titanium base alloy #3,117,001, 1/7/1964, Grain refinement of beryllium with tungsten carbide and titanium diboride #4,420,460, 12/13/1983, Grain refinement of titanium alloys William Childs Curtis #4,034,373, 7/5/1977, Airborne moving-target indicating radar system Mark E. Dean #4,528,626, 8/9/1985, Improvements in computer architecture Clarence Gregg #1,277,307, 8/27/1918, Machine gun James Gregory #361,937, 4/26/1887, Motor Lewis Howard Latimer #147,363, 2/10/1874, Water closets for railway cars (co-inventor Charles W.Brown) #247,097, 9/13/1881, Electric lamp, (co-inventor Joseph V. Nichols) #252,386, 1/17/1882, Process of manufacturing carbons #255,212, 3/21/1882, Globe supporter for electric lamps (co-inventor John Tregoning) #334,078, 1/12/1886, Apparatus for cooling and disinfecting #557,076, 3/24/1896, Locking rack for hats, coats, and umbrellas #781,890, 2/7/1905, Book supporter #968,787, 8/30/1910, Lamp fixture Francis Edward LeVert #4,091,288, 5/23/1978, Threshold self-powered gamma detector for use as a monitor of power in a nuclear reactor #4,722,610, 2/2/1988, Monitor for deposition on heat transfer surfaces #4,805,454, 2/21/1989, Continuous fluid level detector Elijah McCoy #129,843, 7/23/1872, automatic oil cup #130,305, 8/6/1872, Improvement in lubricators for steam engines #139,407, 5/27/1873, Improvement in lubricator #146,697, 1/20/1874, Improvement in steam lubricators #150,876, 5/12/1874, Improvement in ironing tables #173,032, 2/1/1876, Improvement in steam cylinder lubricator #179,585, 7/4/1876, Improvement in steam cylinder lubricators #255,443, 3/28/1882, Lubricator #261,166, 7/18/1882, Lubricator #320,354, 6/16/1885, Lubricator #320,379, 6/16/1885, Steam dome for locomotives #357,491, 2/8/1887, Lubricator #361,435, 4/19/1887, Lubricator attachment #363,529, 5/24/1887, Lubricator for slide valves #383,745, 5/29/1888, Lubricator #383,746, 5/29/1888, Lubricator #418,139, 12/24/1889, Lubricator (co-inventor Clarence B Hodges) #460,215, 9/29/1891, Dope cup #465,875, 12/29/1891, Lubricator #472,066, 4/5/1892, Lubricator #610,634, 9/13/1898, Lubricator #611,759, 10/4/1898, Lubricator #614,307, 11/15/1898, Oil cup #627,623, 6/27/1899, Lubricator Jay H Montgomery #1,910,626, 5/23/1933, Aeroplane aerofoil wing Dr. Daniel Hale Williams Dr. Daniel Hale Williams is known for performing the first open heart surgery in 1893. Williams was the only black inventor at the time to be a member of the American College of Surgeons. His surgery was considered earth-shattering at the time because he opened the patients chest to stitch a small wound in his heart. To prevent infection, Dr. Daniel Hale Williams used many of the new antiseptic and sterilization procedures that were just coming to light at that time. Granville T Woods #299,894, 6/3/1884, Steam boiler furnace #308,817, 12/2/1884, Telephone transmitter #315,368, 4/7/1885, Apparatus for transmissions of messages by electricity #364,619, 6/7/1887, Relay instrument #366,192, 7/5/1887, Polarized relay #368,265, 8/16/1887, Electromechanical brake #371,241, 10/11/1887, Telephone system and apparatus #371,655, 10/18/1887, Electromagnetic brake apparatus #373,383, 11/5/1887, Railway telegraphy #373,915, 11/29/1887, Induction telegraph system #383,844, 5/29/1888, Overhead conducting system for electric railways #385,034, 6/26/1888, Electromotive railway #386,282, 7/17/1888, Tunnel construction for electric railways #387,839, 8/14/1888, Galvanic battery #388,803, 8/28/1888, Railway telegraphy #395,533, 1/1/1889, Automatic safety cut-out for electric circuits #463,020, 11/10/1891, Electric railway system #507,606, 10/31/1893, Electric railway supply system #639,692, 12/19/1899, Amusement apparatus #656,760, 8/28/1900, Incubator #662,049, 11/20/1900, Automatic circuit-breaking apparatus #681,768, 9/3/1901, Regulating and controlling electrical translating devices #690,809, 1/7/1902, Apparatus for controlling electric motors or other electrical translating devices #695,988, 3/25/1902, Electric railway #701,981, 6/10/1902, Automatic air brake #718,183, 1/13/1903, Electric railway system #762,792, 6/14/1904, Electric-railway apparatus
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nadeed that was me who started that thread but some people did not understand me fully. There were low rung of the societies and nobody can refute that and there were captured innocents. This is consistent with most slavery in the world seeing that there is no mass penal system as we have now. The programs and administrative systems for enemies of the state and criminals and low caste people were all dumped into slavery. This is found in the first slaves of america which were white europeans.(they were white and they were slaves;michael hoffman) Also in NAtive American societies and so forth. If you read the tareekh of sudaan you will find that west african kings owned arab slave girls. The habasha not only owned arab slave girls they freely married amongst them. my point of the thread was that when millions of people were chained and jailed for whatever reason, were they being seen by their jailors as fulfillment of societal needs as most european economist did to white slaves of the 16th-19th century or were they seen as ravages and savages by the jailing force.
-------------------- لا اله الا الله و محمد الرسول الله Posts: 495 | From: anchorage, alaska | Registered: Feb 2007
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nadeed accomplishments for blacks are really enormous considering they are only 12 or 13 percent of the nation. They have haters of them just like alot of ethnic groups and they have traversed from different stages just like alot of original americans. Blacks just stick out in predominately red(white) societies in all their endeavors and they are either liked or hated. The slave issue of blacks in my opinion is blown out of proportion far as the frequency of it being taught in schools. Blacks were actually the last of the original americans to be slaved just like any other place of the world. Thats why a horner may call black americans adoon in america mimicking the same people who will call him abeed in saudia arabia, while at the same time that same adoon of america will be treated with the utmost respect in saudia arabia and not deported. most of the dark skinned races are stigmitized and have sought solace in this therfore forming a new ethnic group which are based out of different ethnic groups and nations itself. Then there are those who rather i.d. only with their linguistic-geographical-lineage group. all is the same and i have noticed parodies of this in other societies.
-------------------- لا اله الا الله و محمد الرسول الله Posts: 495 | From: anchorage, alaska | Registered: Feb 2007
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There are too many pics and profiles but original black americans are really a unique people and have done nothing more or less except help build the american civilization, but rather are a part of the core of the civilization to this day. I mean when a foriegner wants to obtain citizenship he has to learn about black american history. This shocked me when i seen the study guide but yep this is their place and they are an intricate group to a mass society, that was in the majority pitted against them, in which they are only 12-13 percent can you believe that. Too much achievement and still they are moving forward.
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Already refuted with full documentation that the enslaved Africans shipped to the Americas came from every and all ranks of West African society and civilization.
You were unable to provide any supportive evidence from anywhere that counters that fact. And it is impossible to validly source against fact.
All you're doing is positively enforcing that you nothing, absolutely nothing, about West African systems of slavery and its particular realities that distinguishes it from other people's slaves, especially those of ancient Greece and the colonial Americas.
In the end you'll only become the first recipient of the Shush-up Prize, awarded to those who can't see what everybody else can -- that you need to SHUT THE F_U_C_K UP!
quote:Originally posted by abdulkarem3: There were low rung of the societies and nobody can refute that and there were captured innocents.
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Got to give you your propers on this and its followup. Damn, how can you be so astute when it comes to BA accomplishments and so snowed as to their societal pre-Americas origins?
New prize => THE TALK YOUR TALK award!
And pass me a wet towel, I got some egg on my face.
quote:Originally posted by abdulkarem3: nadeed accomplishments for blacks are really enormous considering they are only 12 or 13 percent of the nation. They have haters of them just like alot of ethnic groups and they have traversed from different stages just like alot of original americans. Blacks just stick out in predominately red(white) societies in all their endeavors and they are either liked or hated. The slave issue of blacks in my opinion is blown out of proportion far as the frequency of it being taught in schools. Blacks were actually the last of the original americans to be slaved just like any other place of the world. Thats why a horner may call black americans adoon in america mimicking the same people who will call him abeed in saudia arabia, while at the same time that same adoon of america will be treated with the utmost respect in saudia arabia and not deported. most of the dark skinned races are stigmitized and have sought solace in this therfore forming a new ethnic group which are based out of different ethnic groups and nations itself. Then there are those who rather i.d. only with their linguistic-geographical-lineage group. all is the same and i have noticed parodies of this in other societies.
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because i am a mere observer and not a dick rider, bound to mistakes like yourself because once again you jumped the gun.
quote:full documentation that the enslaved Africans shipped to the Americas came from every and all ranks of West African society and civilization.
is not being argued. thats agreed and thats reality however i wanted to dig deep into the societies at hand. What were the mentalities of the partakers of this mass human-transfer? not what were the occupation/ranks/vocation of the human cargo. This is known and exhausted.
quote:how can you be so astute when it comes to BA accomplishments and so snowed as to their societal pre-Americas origins
because i dont consider my famliy lineage apart of that society. It is not known amongst our family historian and we look at ba's as a distinct culture and civilization. I know this probably got your panties in a bunch because you see a divide thing here however hold your guns for that is not the case. It is only a lineage thing. Whoever is attached to these societies then have at it; like i said before ba's are made up of different nations. I have americo-liberian,malian mande,pula,sudaani arab friends. we are all considered ba's and fill it out on those federal sheets but have different interpretations of ways of life. oh yeah who u need to focus own is your boy nadeed for his adoon and jareer comments are ignored but your misunderstanding of my intent is exacerbated. I only do as one of the greeks and say that societies-civilizations are not shaped and formed because of some innate quality but by mere experience and location
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LOL Apparently not judging by his creation of this thread, and all the idiocy he spouted since he first emerged in this forum.
This thread should be deleted and not just closed. Obviously Nadeed is just an African with low self-esteem who hates on African Americans because he knows they are more successful than himself. This is why all he does is resort to epithets like 'adoon'-- bringing up the fact that African Americans are descended from slaves. So what? They're still more successful than him. He calls them 'jareer' (nappy headed). Again. Who cares. The result is the same.
I myself live in Atlanta which has the greatest number of wealthy African Americans anywhere in the country. They nor all the African Americans I know are too busy doing their thing to give a damn about haters like Nadeed who continues to sit in front of his comp obsessing about the Afro-Americans (the object of his hatred) and so alleviates his neurosis by going on internet forums like this ranting and raving. Posts: 26238 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by abdulkarem3: There were low rung of the societies and nobody can refute that and there were captured innocents.
quote:The museum plans to highlight a little-known connection between its host state and the manuscripts of Timbuktu: the story of Ibrahima Abd ar-Rahman, an 18th-century prince from what is now Guinea who studied at Timbuktu before being sold into slavery in Natchez, Miss. The prince's saga contradicts another widely held Western belief -- that Africans sold in the slave trade were uncivilized. In fact, many were doctors, dentists, lawyers, professors, musicians and members of royal families. And a large number were Muslim.
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Also someone else talked about king Alfonzo, allot of free men and even royalty were taken, your idea has been refuted
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quote:Originally posted by markellion: Also someone else talked about king Alfonzo, allot of free men and even royalty were taken, your idea has been refuted
So what? They're still more successful than him. He calls them 'jareer' (nappy headed). Again. Who cares. The result is the same.
I myself live in Atlanta which has the greatest number of wealthy African Americans anywhere in the country. They nor all the African Americans I know are too busy doing their thing to give a damn about haters like Nadeed who continues to sit in front of his comp obsessing about the Afro-Americans (the object of his hatred) and so alleviates his neurosis by going on internet forums like this ranting and raving.
quote:Originally posted by Nadeed: there is a thread suggesting that american new world blacks are from the lower rungs of west africa africans. if this is true then does that explain their lack of achievement in the americas.
If Black Americans was a nation of its own, we would be the 15th largest economic power in the world. Don't forget American pop culture that everyone in the world copy is a black American creation. If black Americans are the lowest rungs, why do everyone in the world copy their art? Why do they have such are a large influence on the world?
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quote:Originally posted by Nadeed: there is a thread suggesting that american new world blacks are from the lower rungs of west africa africans. if this is true then does that explain their lack of achievement in the americas.
If Black Americans was a nation of its own, we would be the 15th largest economic power in the world. Don't forget American pop culture that everyone in the world copy is a black American creation. If black Americans are the lowest rungs, why do everyone in the world copy their art? Why do they have such are a large influence on the world?
He is jealous because he isn't as black and his hair isn't as wooly as other Africans, he has to learn he is beautiful in his own way
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quote:Originally posted by Nadeed: there is a thread suggesting that american new world blacks are from the lower rungs of west africa africans. if this is true then does that explain their lack of achievement in the americas.
If Black Americans was a nation of its own, we would be the 15th largest economic power in the world. Don't forget American pop culture that everyone in the world copy is a black American creation. If black Americans are the lowest rungs, why do everyone in the world copy their art? Why do they have such are a large influence on the world?
Actually ... we would be the 13th richest nation in the world. 2/3rds of African Americans are middle class to rich ... 1/3 still lives in poverty.
Clyde Winters did a pretty good job at listing some of the accomplishments of the black people in America.
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Nadeed wins the Jughead crown for the most dim-witted all-time prize winner of stupidity. Never before has one guy with so much reason to STFU decided instead to open his trap and give us all a good laugh. And yes, I'm talking about you Nitwit -uh, I mean Nadeed.
Somalians are black, just like the rest of the Africans --deal with it. And just for the record there's plenty of Bantus who look like Denzel. There's also plenty of Zulus, Sudanese and PLENTY of Somalis who could easily pass as Denzel clones. Look, I know you get furious every time you see Black Americans because it reminds you of how the arabs have made you ashamed of your own skin color. BA's remind you of how little impact or importance Somalis have. No movie stars, no icons. To your mind it translates into, "We don't exist!" The arabs and whites castrated you culturally and everyday you wish you could feel like a man instead of a coward. You wish you mattered. You don't want to piggyback off of associating yourself with BA's --being "black" isn't enough, you want to show that being a black Somalian matters too, I can understand that-- and yet you can't find any way to leave your mark. You live in a failed country of self-hating women and castrated, used-to-be men. It's truly sad. There was a time when Somalis held their heads high -but that was so long ago no one can even remember it now. A time long before the arabs beat you to the point where the Somalis now no longer dare to look an arab in the eye for fear of the consequences. Now you've been reduced to pickming fights on the intenet because it's the only place that's safe. The US marched into Sonalia, and there was nothing you could do. African "peacekeepers," nothing you could do. The Africans see you as a ridiculous charity-case, the rest of the world doesn't even know you exist. As a BA I couldn't iamgine living like that Nadeed, but you can. It's your life, if it can be called that. Well, that's not good enough Nitwit, uhm, Nadeed. You want to be a man, you have to earn it. As we have. You have to stand on your own two feet. Pretending to have courage you never had doesn't make you bigger, nor does pretending others are beneath you when you don't have a single accomplishemnt of your own to speak of.
I know it's just another knife in your side, that the success and global impact of BA's reminds you that the sons of slaves (none Somali BTW) were brought in chains to the New World, broke those chains, while the Somali's still live lives of near invisibilty. The image of you the world sees, the legacy of the rabs you love so much, is crushing poverty, endless war, governments that can't even carry out the most ordinary of functions, and a people with no faith in themselves and no hope for the future. And it's a slap in the face when you turn on a TV, or open a magazine and what do you see? The BA's The privleged ones. They were slaves, but they rose against the whites, and fought for their rights. They weren't afraid to die or suffer for it. Somalis have been dying for over a hundred years, but who has it freed? Who has it helped? No wonder BA's make you and so many other self-hating Africans so furious. Instead of embracing your black skin and identifying with us, and drawing strength from the fact that the struggle of blacks in America is the struggle of blacks everywhere, instead you want to pretend to be something you're not --arab. Good luck. I've no doubt the majority of blacks/Somalis dress as blacks in the US dress and mimic what they see us do. They idolize Oprah and LeBron James. What Somali's do Somali youth want to be like? What Somali's do they look at and say, "This is an example of what we're capable of?" Not many, and certainly none of them have surpassed BA's. Iman didn't find fame until she came to the US and got the support of black celebrties here. The least you could do is be grateful. Blacks in the US know who we are and what we've accomplished. We also know what we've contributed to the world. So who the hell are you? A deranged fool with a loud mouth. Be mad that the arabs made you feel inferior, but don't be mad that you're black. God made you that way and you can either be proud of it, as we are, or you can continue to sound like the lunatic you are as you scream at the world, "I'm not black! My skin is just a darker shade of brown!"
Racist comments are supposed to be grounds for banning in these parts, aren't they? The mods should have already jumped on this pig by now and sent him to ban-land.
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I didn't mean to leave this thread open, actually, there was little room for legitimate discussion.
sportbilly, Nadeed has been banned for a couple days now. Look at the date of his posts.
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