These two rivers unite in 42 The Thala mountain range, the middle part of which is located in 38,10 and the Garamantica defile 50 ,10 the Arulates mountains 47 30, 1 30. There are two great rivers in the interior; one of these is the Gir uniting as it were, the Garamantica defile and the Usargala mountains. There is a turning of the river in 42, 16 Into the Gir a river empties flowing from the Chelonitides marshes, the middle of which is in 49, 20 Moreover joining the Gir, ceasing as the say, but running under ground, is another, the western terminus of which is in 46,16 the eastern terminus of which forms the Nuba lake the position of which is 50,15 The other large river is the the Niger flowing from the Mandrus mountains and the Thala mountains which form the Nigritis lake which is in 15,18 from the north two rivers flow into the same from the Sagapola and the Usargala mountains, a deflection toward the east forms the Libyan lake the location of which is in 35, 16 30 and toward the south moreover there is a turn toward the Darbus river but in two locations 21 17 and 21 ,13 30 Ptolemy Gaetulia is located below Mauritania,the Desert of Libya below Africa and Cyreniaca, The great races which inhabit Libya are the Garamantes extending from the sources of Bagradas river to the Nubas lake, and the race of the Melanogaetuli, who occupy the land which is between the Sagapola mountains and the Usargala mountains, and the AETHOPIAN race of Gireiwho dwall toward the Gir, and the AETHOPIAN race of the Nigritae who are north of the Niger river,and the Daradi who dwell along the river of the name (Daradas) where it empties into the sea, and the Perorsi who are more to eastward and more remote from the sea as far as the mountains which are called the Theon Ochema, and the land of the AETHIOPIAN ODREANGIDIAN located between the Caphas and ''Thala Mountains'', and the Mamacos who are below the Thala mountainsm and the Nubae dwelling on the Western Side of the Garamantica defile, and the Derbiccae who are towards the west from the Arancas mountains. These are the minor races" the Sirangae, the Mausoli, and the Autolalae occupying the region which is in on the sea below Gaetulia extending as far as the Mandrus mountains,Next to the same mountains are the Babi, the Malcoae and the Mandori extending as far as the Daradi,next to these are the Sophucaei , and blow the Rysadius mountains are the Leucaethiopes,between whom and Perorsi stretches the Campus Rufus: then from the Sagapola mountains toward the north the Pharusi,from the Usargala mountains toward the north are the Natembes, and along the Girgiri mountains are the Lynxamintae, also the Zamazi, the Aroccae, the Getiani extending as far as the Nigritas AETHIOPES, below the Usargala mountains are the Suburpores, and below the Girgiri mountains toward the Garamantes are the Maccoi,the Dauchitae, and the Caletae, and the Caletae extending as far as the Nuba lake , and from the Daradi toward the east are the Machurebi, and next to rge Spochucaeis are the Solenti, from these toward the east are the Anaticoli or Pharuausi, the Churitae and the Stachirae extending as far as the Caphas mountains,between whom and Theon Ochema mountains are the Orphes,below these are the Tarueliae, the Climatitae, also the ''Africerones'' a great race, and back from Odrangides Aethiopes, but toward the south Achaemae, and south of the Mimcaes are the Gongalae, next to these are the Nanosbes then the Nabathrae extending as far as the Arualtes mountains, and between the Libyan lake and the Thala Mountains are the Aliltambi and the Maurali"between these and Nuba lake the Harmiae, the Thalae, the Dolopes, also the Astacuri up to the Garamantica defile, and the Aroccae to the north from the Aranca mountains, the Asaracae to the east,between the Derbiecenses and the Arualtes mountains are the Dermones, and the below the Africerones almost to south wind are the Aganginae Aethiopes,to the east of these below the same Arualten
Claudius Ptolemy ( . AD 90 – c. AD 168), was a Greek-Roman citizen of Egypt who wrote in Greek.] He was a mathematician, astronomer, geographer, astrologer, and poet He lived in Alexandria Egypt under Roman rule, and is believed to have been born in the town of Ptolemais Hermiou in the Thebaid.
Encyclopædia Americana: a popular dictionary of arts, sciences ..., Volume 1 1847
By Francis Lieber, Edward Wigglesworth, Thomas Gamaliel Bradfor Albinos (white Negroes, Blafards, Leucaethiops, Dondos), who were formerly found on the isthmus of Panama and at the mouths of the Ganges, and have been described as a distinct race of men, have been likewise discovered, by modern naturalists, in various countries of Europe, e. g. in Switzerland, among the Savoyards in the valley of Chamouni, in France, in the tract of the Rhine, in Tyrol, &c. The characteristics of the A. are now said to be owing to a disease; which may attack men in every climate, and to which even animals are subiect, such as white mice, rabbits, &c. The A. have a milky or cadaverous look, and are distinguished from the genuine whites, not only by their wrinkled skin, but also by their red eyes, which want the black mucus, and cannot, therefore, endure the bright light of day. By moon-light, and in the dark, they can see pretty well, for which reason they are accustomed to go abroad only in the night, and, by Lin 136 ALBINOS—NEW ALBION. naeus and other naturalists, are termed nocturnal men. Their hair is woolly, when they are descended from actual Negroes, and somewhat less curly, when they are the children of East Indians; hut it is always of an impleading milk-color, like their skin.
Pliny, Mela and Ptolemy all refer to the Leucaethiopes, but they give no description of the people thus designated.
Pliny in his Lib. v. cap. 8, Hist. Natur. writes : Interiori autem ambitu Africae ad meridiem versus superque Gaetulos, inter- venientibus desertis, primi omnium Libyaegyptii, deinde Leucaethiopes habitant.
(Circuit of the interior of Africa to the south towards the Gaetulians and more than enough, between- on the desert, the first of all Libyaegyptii, then the inhabitants Leucaethiopes)
Pomponius Mela, Be situ orbis, Lib. i. cap. 4, is somewhat more explicit : At super ea quae Libyco mari abluuntur, Libyes Aegypti sunt, et Leucoaethiopes, et natio frequens multiplexque Gaetuli. (But of the things which the sea washed away the Libyan, of Egypt, the Libyans, and Leucoaethiopes, and her children multiple Africans)
For Mela the Leucaethiopes appear to be between the Troglodytes and the Nile, scarcely in Western Africa. [i]Agathemenos retires again behind those convenient intervening deserts, and merely says that west of Egypt are situated among other nations the Aeu/cat^toTj-es. De geographia, Lib. ii. cap. 5.[i] (Agathemenos retires again behind Those intervening to a desert, and That merely says that Israel are situated west of the heathen among other Aeu / es ^ toTj-art.)
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Having earlier pointed out the impossibility of Henn's late dates for sub-Sahara African entries into supra-Saharan Africa as there are text and art documents preceding 1250 CE Egypt and texts before 800 CE south Morocco where they appear,
which ethnic groups or cultures are you referring to?
Why the very ones you are of course.
All were not aMazigh.
Some were Nilo- Saharan others Niger-Congo.
E-M81 is carried by taMazight speakers. E-M2 is in the target region and prominent in Nilo-Saharan and Niger-Congo speakers.
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Having earlier pointed out the impossibility of Henn's late dates for sub-Sahara African entries into supra-Saharan Africa as there are text and art documents preceding 1250 CE Egypt and texts before 800 CE south Morocco where they appear,
which ethnic groups or cultures are you referring to?
Why the very ones you are of course.
All were not aMazigh.
Some were Nilo- Saharan others Niger-Congo.
E-M81 is carried by taMazight speakers. E-M2 is in the target region and prominent in Nilo-Saharan and Niger-Congo speakers.
the AETHOPIAN race of Girei who dwall toward the Gir, and the AETHOPIAN race of the Nigritae who are north of the Niger river,and the Daradi who dwell along the river of the name (Daradas) where it empties into the sea, and the Perorsi who are more to eastward and more remote from the sea as far as the mountains which are called the Theon Ochema, and the land of the AETHIOPIAN ODREANGIDIAN located between the Caphas and ''Thala Mountains'', and the Mamacos who are below the Thala mountainsm and the Nubae dwelling on the Western Side of the Garamantica defile, and the Derbiccae who are towards the west from the Arancas mountains.
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here's an interesting old book from 1773 mentioning Ptolemy and the Nigritae:
A Dictionary of Ancient Geography: Explaining the Local Appellations in ... By Alexander MacBean, Samuel Johnson
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