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kafir 4ever
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As a filmmaker of the new documentary Suicide Killers, I will tell you that Hany Abu-Assad’s film Paradise Now is an artistically fashioned fiction. A dangerous fiction about dangerous people in a dangerous world. As fiction, his film stages good and bad characters. And since the film is about the final days of life for two suicide bombers, the killers automatically become the heroes.

Hany Abu-Assad tries to portray his heroes as human beings. On this, I could not agree more. In his interview with Newsweek, he says the Palestinians “wanted to see these characters as superheroes, as almost inhuman in their great powers.” “Suicide Killers,” as I call them in my documentary, represent the saddest of human tragedies in their denial of life for death.



Depending on our point of view, we could justify anyone’s behaviour. The temptation would be great to make a film on Charles Manson or Jack the Ripper from an inside perspective that excuses their actions, just as we could rationalize Nazism by the poverty in which the Versailles Treaty emerged from Germany in the twenties. But in all cases—including suicide bombings—it’s important to identify the real causes and not make them up. Unfortunately, when we deal with the issues of Moslem expansion, the desire for Islamic world domination, the intolerance of Occidental culture, the Muslim extremists’ rejection of the modern world, their inferiority of women, and the glorification of jihad and shahada, the conclusion is always the same: to blame Israel or the United States.



Presented from the Palestinian point of view, moderate or otherwise, suicide bombings are the result of occupation, oppression, lack of freedom, and the desire for cultural pride. All of this reasoning is a lie. A myth. I spent hours speaking with would-be suicide bombers in Israeli jails and with their families in Gaza, Jordan, the West Bank and inside Nablus, where Paradise Now was filmed. And I am sorry to tell the Jury of the Amnesty International Award and the Best European Film Blue Angel Award and whoever is ecstatic about the courage and the sacrifice of these supposed heroes that they are just manipulated kids, victims of a system and a culture, or, as Dr. Boaz Ganor from the Hertzliya Center for Studies on Terrorism puts it, “stupid bombs and smart bombs at the same time.”



In the daily life of these so-called heroes, everything is structured to make them believe in a martyr-mythology. And while it is not pleasant to live under curfews and to have to cross checkpoints everyday, no one seems to remember that there were already suicide killers in the days of the Oslo Process when the PLO was in charge of security and when the borders were widely open. In those days, I used to visit friends in Galilee, and we would go to the Jenin open market as easily as to the mall of any Israeli city.



I was surprised and happy to read the Newsweek article about Mr. Abu-Assad being nervous two hours before the screening of his film in Tel Aviv. In Tel Aviv? Yes. Absolutely. I wonder how many survivors of suicide attacks attended this “premier?” Also, I wonder when a Palestinian, or any Arab television or cinema will ever feature a film about the Holocaust, for instance, not to mention a film presenting the Israeli point of view of the actual conflict? Stupid me: I forgot. According to most Arabs, the Holocaust never existed except in the minds of the Zionists, for use as propaganda, with an agenda to conquer the world.



But let’s not be too political. Back to our suicide “heroes.”



From what I heard directly from many aspiring to “shahada” (martyrdom) that I interviewed in prison, and in the streets of some Palestinian towns and villages, you do not start thinking about becoming a suicide killer in reaction to an Israeli tank. The idea starts in the mosque. Yes, where, every Friday, most Imams mix up religious and political sermons, where they say that the Jews are the descendants of Apes and Pigs, deserving no mercy after having betrayed God himself, and killed most of the Prophets. And next, the idea is further advanced by Palestinian television where those sermons are mixed up with video clips showing Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian women and targeting children. And where numerous programs stage “martyrs” talking from heaven about the delights of the afterlife, and of the 72 virgins waiting for Allah’s good servants. And then later in the streets, the kids who have been poisoned against the Jews in the mosques and on television, play “martyrs and Jewish pigs” the same way western kids play cowboys and Indians.



And finally, all of this organized incitement that structures a religious aim behind a political one would not be sufficient to compel any kid to sacrifice his life in the massacre of innocent civilians if this were not orchestrated within a highly repressive culture. Visiting Gaza, talking to students, to women (who were in grave danger just because they were talking to me), I could apprehend the mechanics of a civilization capable of creating such “heroes.”



Imagine a world where separation between men and women is virtually absolute. Where not only sex is a taboo, but where a woman’s body is considered to be so impure that it must be hidden at all times. Where women are second-class citizens and where a teenage girl can be slaughtered by her own father, brother or cousin, if only she is suspected of having lost her virginity. These crimes of “honour” take place almost on a daily basis, although very few enthusiastic viewers of “Paradise Now” talk about it, or even know about it.



In this chauvinistic land, a 16- or 18-year-old boy has a 99% chance of having never touched the hand of a girl nor having spoken to one, except for his sister. At this age where libido is at its peak, a young male is in need of these beautiful and forbidden sensations. He needs to prove to himself that he is a man, a future man. But, in this arena, there is no hope—only frustration. Dating and flirting are forbidden. Marriage is the only tolerated path to sex in the Muslim world. But without money there is no wife.



Ironically, while women are the object of the highest contempt, while the temporal existence of flesh is considered despicable (“seek for death, and eternal life will be given to you”— Prophet Mohammad), the promise of eternal life surrounded by 72 virgins is popularized daily through every arm of the Muslim media.



The misguided kids I interviewed while shooting “Suicide Killers” spoke of the 72 virgins with total conviction. “No one knows how much Allah would have given me in heaven if I had succeeded,” said one of them, who described his ideal target as a mall, a school or a hospital in Netanya.



Yes, suicide bombers are humans who draw our sympathy for the insidious cycle of lies that pervade their lives. But as long as films like Paradise Now perpetuate the myth that they are heroes standing up to a cruel oppressor, the line for new suicide bombers will continue to grow longer. This film promotes a lie that spells continued death and destruction without the possibility of progress for the Palestinian culture and its future generations. It celebrates the beauty of their selfless sacrifice, shows them as having nothing to lose, and elevates what in real life is senseless slaughter to noble action rewarded in heaven. However, in a fiction, everybody forgets the pain of their dead victims and their families, and the young kids who “survived” a terror attack but are condemned to live with paralysis or blindness or even without a face, like in the worst horror movies.



The threat of suicide bombers now goes far beyond the Israeli-Palestinian borders—to London, Bali, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Iraq and Jordan—and where will it end? Suicide bombers are not heroes. To be a hero, you must make a choice. And in their culture, suicide bombers have no choice.

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Kafir, the director that supposedly wrote this commentary is Israeli. I think his view may be a bit biassed. Everything I've read about this film is that it does NOT forgive the unforgivable.

Go see it yourself and then maybe your post might be worth reading. I'm seeing it this weekend with my mother. [Big Grin]

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Does it matter wether he's Jewish or not?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Pierre Rehov (1952-) is the pseudonym of a French Jewish film maker, most known for his six movies combating anti-Israeli propaganda.

Rehov was born in Algeria, where he experienced terrorism at a young age. In 1961 his family moved to France with as many as 250,000 other French fleeing the colony of Algeria, which was to become independent the next year.

Rehov was not a pro-Israeli activist until 2000, when he saw the death of Muhammad al-Durrah on television, and doubted its authenticity. Since then, he has been working mostly in the Palestinian Territories, rebuking anti-Israeli propaganda.

He, among others, requested an IDF investigation into the murder of Al-Durrah, which confirmed his suspicions that it was Palestinian gunfire that killed the child. This investigation was also featured in the film Decryptage by Philippe Bensoussan.

Rehov claims that every reporter must be (or appear to be) pro-Palestinian to work on the territories safely and this, among other things, creates systematic anti-Israeli bias, especially on French media outlets. For this reason, Rehov's real name is not known to the mainstream, since he fears assassination at the hands of Palestinian militants.

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quote:
Originally posted by kafir 4ever:
Does it matter wether he's Jewish or not?


It's indicative of possible bias. I'd much rather *you* go see the movie and tell us what you think.

Really.

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ok, enough with the 72 virgins thing!!!! , from where di this thing come..!!
anyone plz , i want an answer.. Kafir , or any muslim here , plz, Englighten me , i`m a muslim ,and i do memorize alot of Quran , and i`ve read it all ,
2nd , this...(“seek for death, and eternal life will be given to you”— Prophet Mohammad),
well , i never read this b4..!
but i do remember reading ("Prepare for ur life as if u will never die, and prepare for ur after life as u r dying 2morrow") (and i`m pretty sure of this one.
and i totally agree with Snoozin , that this writer`s ideas are biased , (actually its not the best to trust jewish reviews about a muslim thing or vise versa , find a neutral one)

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quote:
Originally posted by kafir 4ever:
As a filmmaker of the new documentary Suicide Killers, I will tell you that Hany Abu-Assad’s film Paradise Now is an artistically fashioned fiction. A dangerous fiction about dangerous people in a dangerous world. As fiction, his film stages good and bad characters. And since the film is about the final days of life for two suicide bombers, the killers automatically become the heroes.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20202

Good Job pasting...do you actually read that staff before posting....little advice to you to add a little creditablity add the source...

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The only --

I'm not sure about this since I only did a search for it, but this is what I found:

Hadith number 2,562 in the collection known as the Sunan al-Tirmidhi says, "The least [reward] for the people of Heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby."

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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger,Tiger:
quote:
Originally posted by kafir 4ever:
As a filmmaker of the new documentary Suicide Killers, I will tell you that Hany Abu-Assad’s film Paradise Now is an artistically fashioned fiction. A dangerous fiction about dangerous people in a dangerous world. As fiction, his film stages good and bad characters. And since the film is about the final days of life for two suicide bombers, the killers automatically become the heroes.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20202

Good Job pasting...do you actually read that staff before posting....little advice to you to add a little creditablity add the source...

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quote:
Originally posted by kafir 4ever:
quote:
Originally posted by Tiger,Tiger:
quote:
Originally posted by kafir 4ever:
As a filmmaker of the new documentary Suicide Killers, I will tell you that Hany Abu-Assad’s film Paradise Now is an artistically fashioned fiction. A dangerous fiction about dangerous people in a dangerous world. As fiction, his film stages good and bad characters. And since the film is about the final days of life for two suicide bombers, the killers automatically become the heroes.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20202

Good Job pasting...do you actually read that staff before posting....little advice to you to add a little creditablity add the source...

NERD

Yes you are!
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I know you are
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quote:
Originally posted by kafir 4ever:
I know you are

OK..I agree This is not the problem..everyone on ES KNOWS THAT YOU ARE BUT YOU KEEP DENY IT [Wink]
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Have you seen the movie yet, Kafir?


P.S. Guys! Being called a nerd is not an insult! Who do you think makes all the money in the US? Look at Bill Gates. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Snoozin:
Have you seen the movie yet, Kafir?


P.S. Guys! Being called a nerd is not an insult! Who do you think makes all the money in the US? Look at Bill Gates. [Wink]

who said we are trying to insult each other..he said that he is a nerd and I agreed [Wink]
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[/qb][/QUOTE]OK..I agree This is not the problem..everyone on ES KNOWS THAT YOU ARE BUT YOU KEEP DENY IT [Wink] [/QB][/QUOTE]

speak for urself u dickhead [Cool]

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Now, now, my dears, let's keep to the thread. Writing of the early 'literalist' Christians who saw themselves as quenching the fires of hell, idealised themselves as holy warriors in much the same way that Muslim extremists do today - Clement of Alexandria wrote of these:

"No one, then, who is irrationally brave is a knower of God, since one might call children brave who through ignorance of what is to be dreaded, undergo things that are frightful. So they touch fire even. And the wild beasts that rush close on the points of spears, having a brute courage, might be called valiant. And such people might perhaps call jugglers valiant, who tumble on swords with a certain dexterity, practising a mischievous art for sorry gain. But he who is truly brave, with the peril arising from the bad feeling of the multitudes before his eyes, courageously awaits whatever comes. In this way he is distinguished from others that are called martyrs, inasmuch as some furnish occasions for themselves, and rush into the heart of dangers. For some suffer from love of glory, and others from fear of some other sharper punishment, and others for the sake of pleasures and delights after death, being children in Faith, blessed indeed, but not yet become men in love with God, as the knower of God is, For there are, in the gymnastic contests, so also in church, crowns for men and crowns for children. "

What a sorry waste of their lives. [Roll Eyes]

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Now, now, my dears, let's keep to the thread. Writing of the early 'literalist' Christians who saw themselves as quenching the fires of hell, idealised themselves as holy warriors in much the same way that Muslim extremists do today - Clement of Alexandria wrote of these:

"No one, then, who is irrationally brave is a knower of God, since one might call children brave who through ignorance of what is to be dreaded, undergo things that are frightful. So they touch fire even. And the wild beasts that rush close on the points of spears, having a brute courage, might be called valiant. And such people might perhaps call jugglers valiant, who tumble on swords with a certain dexterity, practising a mischievous art for sorry gain. But he who is truly brave, with the peril arising from the bad feeling of the multitudes before his eyes, courageously awaits whatever comes. In this way he is distinguished from others that are called martyrs, inasmuch as some furnish occasions for themselves, and rush into the heart of dangers. For some suffer from love of glory, and others from fear of some other sharper punishment, and others for the sake of pleasures and delights after death, being children in Faith, blessed indeed, but not yet become men in love with God, as the knower of God is, For there are, in the gymnastic contests, so also in church, crowns for men and crowns for children. "

What a sorry waste of their lives. [Roll Eyes]

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