Well, no, Asiatic just meant a person who came from the Middle-east,
According to your understanding, why was this term limited to people from just that area?
quote:Originally posted by Obelisk_18:
and didnt "aamu" also mean servant?
So I was told many a times in the past, but then we also come across translations like the one Cotonou laid out, where we are provided with other meanings, like say:
-'3m Asiatic (Inhabitant of the Eastern Desert) Semite, Canaanite;
Apparently the word was used similarly to how abd, or even Slav, have come to be used due to the place most found themselves in in the societies they entered as foreigners.
quote:Originally posted by Obelisk_18: and didnt "aamu" also mean servant?
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^ Interesting. So Takruri, you think Aamu which may well have been used by Asiatics to mean 'people' as it does in many Semitic languages, was then corrupted by Egyptians to mean servant or slave in much the same way 'Bantu' or 'Slav' was corrupted by the enslavers or oppressors of those peoples and denigrated to mean slave??
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1. people (noun masculine 2. community (i.e. people bearing arms 3. temple personel
Richard S Tomback A comparative Semitic Lexicon of the Phoenician and Punic Languages Missoula MN: Scholars Press, 1978
code:
`aMaM - root of `aM; to gather together to collect to join together
`aM - a people, so called from their being collected together
1. a. single races or tribes b. race or family c. kindred, relatives d. one's people e. one's fathers f. single relative (whence Arabic 'M
2. Opposed to princes leaders or the king it denotes: a. citizens, common people (Arabic 'aMaTun ** = > b. companions or servants of a leader < = **
3. my people (`aMMiY
4. the whole human race
William Gesenius Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon Grand Rapids MI: Wm B Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1949
Follow the link in my previous post for more on `am possibly infused into Egyptic and why the correlation of Levantines with servants. But see the Gesenius 2b entry. Is this an instance of `am re-entering a Semitic language with a meaning borrowed from Egyptic or was this meaning already a Semitic one? Only examination of individual Canaanitic, Ugaritic, etc., lexicons can let on.
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: Asiatic means non-African.
Well, no, Asiatic just meant a person who came from the Middle-east,
Wrong, it means NonAfrican. Anyone who derived from the indigeneous black populations of the Middle East & the Indian sub-continent is Asiatic.
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The headress is very similar in general yet different in particular detail, namely the Phillistine one has a band that entirely encircles the head and its frills stand upright.
^ Shasu frequently labeled as Phillistine v Phillistine
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Aha, this guy's not a Philistine as frauduently perpetrated. Per the Egyptian Museum he's a 'Syrian' beduin (Sashu[?]).
Really? I myself have always thought him to be Philistine based on the headdress(?)
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The thing about the Phillistines is they're supposedly ex-Minoans. Except for their complexion they seem to have picked up some cultural add-ons since departing from their isle.
In the full length tiles you can see that both the Shasu and the Phillistine are wearing garments of identical "tailoring" and donning and may be why along with the headress for the Shasu being previously thought of as Phillistine.
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^ Well scholars don't know exactly if the PHilistines were from Minoa, but definitely from the Aegean area. Such influence is not surprising considering that evidence not only Biblical but elsewhere shows Philistines undergoing Semiticization both in religious belief as well as material possessions.
Then again, I wonder how far back such influence goes considering what we know about Minoa and the Aegean.
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