quote:Originally posted by Alive-(What Box): ^^A poster here once asked something to the affect of:
Why does the dark soilgotta be black but nottha people?
Context was, we had a troll on this forum post this picture to show that Km.t called themselves Blacks - because of dark soil.
This backfires because the men in the photo are actually darker than the soil.
This begs the question of why or even 'how' they could consider 'soil' black, but not their own black faces....
such that they would then refer to their faces as black "Kem Ho" in mdw ntr means "Black Face", but *not* the soil.
In other words, the person who posted this picture likely knows very well why the Km.t called themselves Blacks....which can be seen in the picture, regardless of his ideologically driven denials.
Btw: Same is true for Eurocentric scholars like Yurco.
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NOT HARD FOR EVEN A KNUCKLEHEAD TO SEE THAT THE ARTIST MADE IN AN ERROR WITH HIS LABELS. EXCEPT SOME OF THE SO CALLED "CARPETBAGGERS" FAIL TO OPEN THEIR EYES!
Left to right -> Egyptian, Libyan, Sudanese, Levantine.
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Can you interpret the associated 'book of gates' text for us?
Of course we don't expect and Afrangi to know anything about ancient Kemet, or to be able to read or translate anything, but maybe we're underestimating you?
quote:Originally posted by Alive-(What Box): ^^A poster here once asked something to the affect of:
Why does the dark soilgotta be black but nottha people?
Context was, we had a troll on this forum post this picture to show that Km.t called themselves Blacks - because of dark soil.
This backfires because the men in the photo are actually darker than the soil.
This begs the question of why or even 'how' they could consider 'soil' black, but not their own black faces....
such that they would then refer to their faces as black "Kem Ho" in mdw ntr means "Black Face", but *not* the soil.
In other words, the person who posted this picture likely knows very well why the Km.t called themselves Blacks....which can be seen in the picture, regardless of his ideologically driven denials.
Btw: Same is true for Eurocentric scholars like Yurco.
They "know."
Absolutely Rasol.
Even more to the point, when the Eurocentrics are questioned about the brownish red skin colors of the MAJORITY of Egyptians in their art, they sometimes claim it is symbolic of the earth or soil. Ok. But that does make them black doesn't it?
But such nonsense is standard in Egyptology, which can be seen here:
quote: Black symbolized death, the underworld, and the night. We see this reflected in Osiris, who was referred to as "the black one" because he was king of the afterlife, and also with reference to the god of embalming, Anubis, who was portrayed as a black jackal or dog. Because Queen Ahmose-Nefertari was the patroness of the necropolis, she was often shown with black skin.
In a rather unusual about-face, black could also represent fertility and resurrection because of the dark silt left behind by the annual Nile flood. From the most ancient Egyptian times, Egypt was known as Kemet, or "the black land", because of the A black scarab from the funerary complex of Senusret III, pyramid of Weret at Dashshur dark soil of the Nile Valley; therefore, the color black symbolized Egypt itself. When used to represent resurrection, black and green were interchangeable.
How about Osiris is black because he is a form of Geb, the god of the EARTH, which makes him black, since Kmt means black soil. Osiris represents the REGENERATIVE POWER of the earth and is the lord of rebirth and regeneration as symbolized by vegetation. This association with vegetation becomes a symbol of the harvest, which again is tied to the Nile and the irrigation of the soil, which provides the life for the Egyptian people. Therefore, Osiris is a perfect symbol for the eternal nature of Kmt itself as a country guided by the divine power of the King who is responsible for harnessing the power of the Nile for the sustenance of the people. When Kings or Queens are depicted as black, they are symbolizing the role of the King or Queen as maintaining the vital flow of strength, sustenance and regeneration for the country. But of course the symbolism of blackness as a sign of strength and regeneration ALSO includes the black men and women created from the earth itself and the connection between Kmt and the place where humans were born from the hand of Khnum INSIDE AFRICA.
This is easily seen in the fact that the earliest triads of creation are found in Upper Egypt and tied to shrines at Elephantine Island, which itself symbolizes the life force which flows from INNER AFRICA. This means not just water and soil but ALSO THE PEOPLE.
Therefore, the King as the RISEN HORUS represents the divine king who is born from and nurtured by mother nature to protect his father, as the seed and force of regeneration (agriculture) and the land itself against the forces of chaos and destruction. This means he becomes the LIVING KA or living SPIRIT of the earth itself as a child of the earth, created of the soil of the earth animated by the breath of life and nurture by the celestial cow (mother nature).
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^ LMAO at Abozo's, I mean Glider's continued humiliation!
quote:Originally posted by Glider: EGYPTIAN VICTORY: Carpetbaggers In Shock!
quote:FROM KING TUT'S TREASURES: No Room For Carpetbaggers.
quote:FAN MY NORTH AFRICAN BEHIND: CARPETBAGGERS-N-DENIAL
quote:MY BLACK AFRICAN BROTHERS, WHOM I LOVE SO MUCH!: KING TUT.
CARPETBAGGERS IN AWE: SHOCK-N-AWE!
^ LOL Sorry but your oppostion between Tut and "blacks" is false.
First of all, all of those images you posted are ritual magic symbols showing the king's (Tut's) power over his enemies. In fact, such symbols are akin to ritual magic found in other parts of Africa including Voodoo!
His enemies here are NOT blacks but Kushites! I find it funny how you refer to Tut as North African, yet were not the Kushites North Africans also? The Kushite kingdom was not in Sub-Sahara but not too far from Egypt.
Also notice Tut's skin color while obviously lighter than the Kushites is still within the range of black Africans. There are many 'blacks' in the Sahara and East Africa who have that same reddish-brown shade.
The Great King Tut Himself
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Egyptian Head of Antiquities rebukes American black supremacists.
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LOL at "black supremacists"!
Who is really the supremacists, but those who gain power through lies and usurpation?? Ancient Egypt was an African culture and its peoples were black, but now you have those in power today who say it wasn't. Gee you can guess.
quote: Photo Middle-Right: King Ramesses smites his foes. Depiction of different racial types in ancient Egyptian art.
Correction, the depiction figures Ramses smiting different nationalities NOT racial types. And I believe What-box exposed this over-played fiasco!
Other pictures of Ramses:
quote:[qb] Photo Middle-Left: Depiction of Negroes in Egyptian art.
Again, this Egyptian depiction shows a Kushite. The Egyptians did not have any concept of racial types that we have today which was developed by white Westerners.
quote:Photo Bottom: Recreation of Tutankhamun’s face by leading forensic scientists who examined the remains. (Click “Continue Reading” below to view.)
More information on race in ancient Egypt.
There is a growing list of famous people, whom American black supremacists now claim were actually black or part black. In some cases elements of the mainstream media have reported some of these claims as fact. Groups like the NOI, the New Black Panthers, and even the all-black church which Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey attend make these claims. Examples include Cleopatra (a Greek), Hannibal (a Carthaginian of Phoenician origin), Beethoven, the Olmecs (DNA tests show they are most closely related to the Chinese and have no Negro DNA), and many more.
Now the head of Egyptian Antiquities has directly rebuked one of their silly claims–that the Egyptian King Tutankhamun was black. In fact, militant groups such as the New Black Panther Party, have actually staged protests in front of museums to demand that images of Tutankhamun be painted black. Several different teams of forensic scientists from multiple countries have studied the remains of Tutankhamun and have all independently classified him as “North African Caucasoid.”
From AFP…
Egyptian antiquities supremo Zahi Hawass insisted Tuesday that Tutankhamun was not black despite calls by US black activists to recognise the boy king’s dark skin colour.
“Tutankhamun was not black, and the portrayal of ancient Egyptian civilisation as black has no element of truth to it,” Hawass told reporters.
“Egyptians are not Arabs and are not Africans despite the fact that Egypt is in Africa,” he said, quoted by the official MENA news agency.
Hawass said he was responding to several demonstrations in Philadelphia after a lecture he gave there on September 6 where he defended his theory.
More rhetoric from Hawass. As usual. The only error Afrocentrics made is in the identification of Cleopatra as black because Cleopatra and her family were Greek colonists. Other than that, you cannot refute any of the FACTS that ancient Egyptians were black Africans. Hawass is not a physical anthropologist but an archaeologists who relies on cultural remains. Even then, his denial of the FACTS makes his work difficult for him. How can you put together the cultures of a people when you deny what that culture is-- African.
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^ Ironic thing is that if our friend Glider is truly our old troll Abaza, then he is of Circassian (of the Caucasus mountains) descent. The Circassians did not enter Egypt until the Turkish era, which means Glider is far removed from ancient Egypt. LOLPosts: 26300 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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