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Ebony Allen
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These people seem to be very confused. The Wodaabe have narrow to broad noses, thin to full lips, medium brown to very dark brown skin, and kinky hair. Yet I read that they hate other black Africans. And don't believe that they are black themselves. I really don't get it. They like light skinned people with narrow noses and thin lips only. How can this be when many of them don't have these features? Aren't they black?
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Get a life.
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Ebony Allen:

^ Are you black or coloured. I mean, is your nose narrow or broad? Can you breathe properly with a narrow nose or does a broad nose function better? Does the thickness or thinness of your lips impede speech? Do you sunbathe or tan because of your skin tone; and if you do, are you prone to skin cancer? Do you use chemicals on your hair to artificially straighten it or is it healthy (so called kinky)?

Well, the so called 'Wodaabe' are a tribe of the Futa/Fula/Fulani nation that are native to and resident in every land in West and north-west Africa. I was raised with them as neighbours, friends and familiy.

Why they would have contempt for or deny their African heritage is beyond me? I mean, the last time I checked in my homeland, the leader of the local Pan-Africanist movement was a Fula with a 'narrow nose', 'thin lips', 'medium brown skin' and 'fine hair'!

Respect and Peace.

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quote:
Originally posted by argyle104:
Get a life.

If you don't have anything to say then say nothing at all.
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I read a few chapters online from a book titled Nomads Who Cultivate Beauty: Wodaabe Dances and Visual Arts in Niger.
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No worries. Based on what you read and the source, your concerns were valid.

But there is always more to a people than the opinions and thoughts of an anthropologist; himself/herself - a human being.

Peace and Out.

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quote:
RIP EgyptSearch.

Abandoned by intelligent posters.

Abandoned by its moderators.

It is now just another wasteland of ignorance.

^ Indeed.
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Okay, and just what is so ignorant about this thread?
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Ebony Allen wrote:

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Okay, and just what is so ignorant about this thread?
These people don't call themselves "black", these people don't call themselves "black".


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!


You're just another beatdown AA with a victim mentality along with a generous helping of inferiority complex.

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Ebony Allen wrote:

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I read a few chapters online from a book titled Nomads Who Cultivate Beauty: Wodaabe Dances and Visual Arts in Niger.

Translation: "The white boss beez donz told mez that some of thems Afecunz is caucasionsionsionz and don't like thems n------ whos ain't caucasionsionsionz."

"And I beweives himz cuz hez sayzz sos."


Notice that there seems to be a pattern of certain ethnic groups who just can't seem to grasp powder's parlor tricks and psychological depravity.

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[Big Grin] [Big Grin]

You are a character but you do have a point. But Ebony should know better being how long she is on the forum.

You know the drill. . . . the "true negro".


Don't take it the wrong way sis. But when you hang with this crowd you are not going to be pampered.

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Ebony, my queen
Please do not confuse the USAmerican use of the word black with anything exterior to USA!
It does not fit, so quit! please!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ebony Allen:
These people seem to be very confused.

Actually the honest mistake you are making is in the 1st sentence.

You just made a blanket statement and sweeping generalisation about and entire ethnic group.

Isn't that pretty prepostrous when you stop to think about it?

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Because Africans identify by tribe, and are not greatly influenced by European terms like black/white divisions.
I say this because of a girl I met from Ethiopia who claimed she got very annoyed when people say she is black- because this is a term "pig skins" created and she does not see why she should label herself these terms.

I always say myself, people who accept this western labeling use these terms(black/white), but others who don't deny them, and heads clash because one side is feeling pressured to use the term and the other side is feeling offended that they deny the terms.
I personally think it is right for when you speak of other people's cultures maybe have some consideration and use the terms they are familiar with and not try to tell them what they are by your own culture.

Also I do not understand what you mean by Woodabe like light skin and hate other black Africans, but I know African people are nothing without their tribes,and some tribes clash, so it is not a surprise Woodabe has enemy tribes, but as for liking light skin, I think this is a misconception because they tend to marry within their own tribe.

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quote:
RIP EgyptSearch.

Abandoned by intelligent posters.

Abandoned by its moderators.

It is now just another wasteland of ignorance.

^^Whoever wrote that, I agree with them.

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^ Et tu, Sundiata?
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^^Pretty much. Don't know about the "wasteland of ignorance" comment (a bit exaggerated") but I agree with the intent of the statement. In other words, the forums have definitely digressed a bit.

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^ Yes.

Moderators and a Search Engine would restore balance, and focus in the Forum.

Peace and Out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ebony Allen:
These people seem to be very confused.

rasol's right about the presumption, but it's an ethic reference! Sheesh

I know a white girl with blonde hair and blue eyes but says she "ain't white!".

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The fulani have always been the enemies of Africa. There are a few in my country and they are disgusting people. They have ALWAYS sided with Arabs/Semites and the only reason I can think so is because they are feminine and weak genetically hence the reason they always got bossed around by real black Africans(many African Americans are Fulani btw-this should tell you something). They helped destroy a few ancient African kingdoms with Arabs and Jews.

So the answer to your question Ebony is NO they are not black Africans and I am glad they don't want to be...the beggers.

Stop trying to make thin lipped thin nosed Africans black Ebony and except your ape-like features as an African American woman.

Why you think so many African Americans LOVE North African, Ethiopian, Wolof and Akan history so much...IT'S ALL IN THE STRAIGHT NOSE!! [Big Grin]

Man you people are Filthy I tell you..just FILTHY!! [Roll Eyes]

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Yeah, okay. Whatever. Y'all don't have to be so damn bitchy.
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Who is this guy???

quote:
Originally posted by Wolofi:
The fulani have always been the enemies of Africa. There are a few in my country and they are disgusting people. They have ALWAYS sided with Arabs/Semites and the only reason I can think so is because they are feminine and weak genetically hence the reason they always got bossed around by real black Africans(many African Americans are Fulani btw-this should tell you something). They helped destroy a few ancient African kingdoms with Arabs and Jews.

So the answer to your question Ebony is NO they are not black Africans and I am glad they don't want to be...the beggers.

Stop trying to make thin lipped thin nosed Africans black Ebony and except your ape-like features as an African American woman.

Why you think so many African Americans LOVE North African, Ethiopian, Wolof and Akan history so much...IT'S ALL IN THE STRAIGHT NOSE!! [Big Grin]

Man you people are Filthy I tell you..just FILTHY!! [Roll Eyes]


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quote:
Originally posted by Sundiata:
quote:
RIP EgyptSearch.

Abandoned by intelligent posters.

Abandoned by its moderators.

It is now just another wasteland of ignorance.

^^Whoever wrote that, I agree with them.
Don't worry about it [Wink]
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Who is this guy??? BTW it is "accept" not except. This is a typical uneducated AA/EA mistake. Are you either??

quote:
Originally posted by Wolofi:
The fulani have always been the enemies of Africa. There are a few in my country and they are disgusting people. They have ALWAYS sided with Arabs/Semites and the only reason I can think so is because they are feminine and weak genetically hence the reason they always got bossed around by real black Africans(many African Americans are Fulani btw-this should tell you something). They helped destroy a few ancient African kingdoms with Arabs and Jews.

So the answer to your question Ebony is NO they are not black Africans and I am glad they don't want to be...the beggers.

Stop trying to make thin lipped thin nosed Africans black Ebony and except your ape-like features as an African American woman.

Why you think so many African Americans LOVE North African, Ethiopian, Wolof and Akan history so much...IT'S ALL IN THE STRAIGHT NOSE!! [Big Grin]

Man you people are Filthy I tell you..just FILTHY!! [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Wolofi:
The fulani have always been the enemies of Africa. There are a few in my country and they are disgusting people. They have ALWAYS sided with Arabs/Semites and the only reason I can think so is because they are feminine and weak genetically hence the reason they always got bossed around by real black Africans(many African Americans are Fulani btw-this should tell you something). They helped destroy a few ancient African kingdoms with Arabs and Jews.

So the answer to your question Ebony is NO they are not black Africans and I am glad they don't want to be...the beggers.

Stop trying to make thin lipped thin nosed Africans black Ebony and except your ape-like features as an African American woman.

Why you think so many African Americans LOVE North African, Ethiopian, Wolof and Akan history so much...IT'S ALL IN THE STRAIGHT NOSE!! [Big Grin]

Man you people are Filthy I tell you..just FILTHY!! [Roll Eyes]

most african americans i think are not Fulani.many come from other combined ethnic groups in africa but there are few that have come from the fulani with combined african ethnic elements.are there maybe a few that are more directly
fulani?i guess so.

some modern Ethiopians do not have straight noses,and some north africans too,depending on the ethnic group.
Wolof and Akan do not have straight noses.

[Roll Eyes]

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This Wolofi is an extremist, I'm appalled by his violent language...he should calm down...
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quote:
Originally posted by Wolofi:
The fulani have always been the enemies of Africa. There are a few in my country and they are disgusting people. They have ALWAYS sided with Arabs/Semites and the only reason I can think so is because they are feminine and weak genetically hence the reason they always got bossed around by real black Africans(many African Americans are Fulani btw-this should tell you something). They helped destroy a few ancient African kingdoms with Arabs and Jews.

So the answer to your question Ebony is NO they are not black Africans and I am glad they don't want to be...the beggers.

Stop trying to make thin lipped thin nosed Africans black Ebony and except your ape-like features as an African American woman.

Why you think so many African Americans LOVE North African, Ethiopian, Wolof and Akan history so much...IT'S ALL IN THE STRAIGHT NOSE!! [Big Grin]

Man you people are Filthy I tell you..just FILTHY!! [Roll Eyes]

quote:
RIP EgyptSearch.

Abandoned by intelligent posters.

Abandoned by its moderators.

It is now just another wasteland of ignorance.

[Smile]
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^ Seems to me, if one peruses thru Wolofi's thread/s or posts and an analysis is done; he/she is nothing but an agent provocateur!
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^^

I originally dis-regarded his post like usual, but, this is hilarious:

quote:
Originally posted by Wolofi:
Stop trying to make thin lipped thin nosed Africans black Ebony and except your ape-like features as an African American woman.

Of course.

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Now let's make a conparison:

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quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:

some modern Ethiopians do not have straight noses,and some north africans too,depending on the ethnic group.
Wolof and Akan do not have straight noses


: rolleyes :

Yeah! Ethiopians don't have straight noses!

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Can any of you nose-ologists guess where these two are from without following the flickr number back to the original photo?

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how bout these two?

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Any educated guesses?

They may not all be tricks. ;-)

quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Who is this guy???

^^co-sign

(not that I actually care to know, but in more of a jest (wth r u) kinda way)

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Not all Europeans have straight nose either and don't have tiny noses for sure...this thread is stupid...we are all human beings, all mixed features...
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quote:
Originally posted by Alive-(What Box):
quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:

some modern Ethiopians do not have straight noses,and some north africans too,depending on the ethnic group.
Wolof and Akan do not have straight noses


: rolleyes :

Yeah! Ethiopians don't have straight noses!

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Can any of you nose-ologists guess where these two are from without following the flickr number back to the original photo?

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how bout these two?

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Any educated guesses?

They may not all be tricks. ;-)

quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Who is this guy???

^^co-sign

(not that I actually care to know, but in more of a jest (wth r u) kinda way)

Those aren't the Ethiopians they show on this board and you know it lol! I am saying it is a bad thing that African Americans attract to straight nosed Africans Icarus why do you not read before you react?
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lol the angry man sounds like an euro-troll to me!!

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yeah.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sundiata:
quote:
RIP EgyptSearch.

Abandoned by intelligent posters.

Abandoned by its moderators.

It is now just another wasteland of ignorance.

^^Whoever wrote that, I agree with them.
I actually don't have moderator status over this forum, so there really isn't one for "Ancient Egypt," but the "Egyptology" forum that used to be full of trolls before the split is still active and very informative.
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^ It's just a repository of old threads, and depends on what you mean by -active-. [Roll Eyes]
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Why would they have to consider themselves Black if they chose not to? Why would ANY African HAVE to consider themselves Black?
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Chimu while we're asking questions can you answer this one?


Why is it that after whatever women you pay off with a free diet pepsi to have sex with you, has sex with you, they immediately hit the vibrator when you leave? : )

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Henu wrote:

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I actually don't have moderator status over this forum
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And your worthless hide doesn't need to. You were the sorriest person that they had ever picked. Ausar was right you were too dumb to be a moderator for this forum.


Now go wipe your ass.

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Oh yeah for all those claiming each other as looking like gorillas and chimps, Take the obvious racist biases out of the equation. I actually plugged in a bunch of chimp and gorilla pictures into those "find your celebrity look alike" websites. According to you monkey mongers, the opposite side should have pulled more. It didn't People of African, European and Asian features where pulled equally.
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Chimu is that why your mama loves bananas?


ahahahahaahahahahaha!!!

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Wow, you'll be obese with all your comedy for foood stamps

Now go shuck and jive in a corner for some coins.
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Dialup, im a ges turned off.

hahahahahahahah


Now go hide that Preparation H and butter you stole from Safemart. The police are out looking for you. LOL! : )

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You sure talk a lot about anal stuff. I guess you are not downlow enough.
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Chimu didn't your girlfriend get stopped for suspicion of smuggling weed taped under her armpits at the airport?


The police later apologized because they saw that it wasn't weed, it was just her armpit hair. LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL

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