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xyyman
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What is it some of you continental Africans!!!

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What is it with you new world *africans*?

Don't lump us all together as if we represented one people called *africans*.
Your simplistic perception of the populations of this extremely diverse continent is just what it is, your own perception.
As if i expected more from a racialist.

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So . . .why do you call me a . . racialist??

You don't find us ragging on each other in the Diaspora.

You, Habari, Africa I, etc never stop!!

You guys . . . or gals are like a bunch of bitches. I am talking about dogs in heat.

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The effect of ancient population bottlenecks on human phenotypic variation.

Manica A, Amos W, Balloux F, Hanihara T.

Department of Zoology, University of Cambridge, Downing Street, Cambridge CB2 3EJ, UK. am315@cam.ac.uk

The origin and patterns of dispersal of anatomically modern humans are the focus of considerable debate. Global genetic analyses have argued for one single origin, placed somewhere in Africa. This scenario implies a rapid expansion, with a series of bottlenecks of small amplitude, which would have led to the observed smooth loss of genetic diversity with increasing distance from Africa. Analyses of cranial data, on the other hand, have given mixed results, and have been argued to support multiple origins of modern humans. Using a large data set of skull measurements and an analytical framework equivalent to that used for genetic data, we show that the loss in genetic diversity has been mirrored by a loss in phenotypic variability. We find evidence for an African origin, placed somewhere in the central/southern part of the continent, which harbours the highest intra-population diversity in phenotypic measurements. We failed to find evidence for a second origin, and we confirm these results on a large genetic data set. Distance from Africa accounts for an average 19-25% of heritable variation in craniometric measurements-a remarkably strong effect for phenotypic measurements known to be under selection.

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Take it easy with your insults...I don't insult you, so don't insult me...and I don't get the point of your post...Africans are more diverse phenotipically than non Africans...well I knew that before reading any scientific article since I come from a region in Africa where the diversity is among the highest. But what's your point?
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Is this Habari guy a Somali?
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Calm down Habari. What's come over you?


Are you frustrated because women don't want you? : )

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I'm not from Kenya idiot...you picked that from Yonis, who doesn't even know me and you are racist: coolie is a racist term, please drop it...idiot
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quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
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Originally posted by Habari:
Wolofi, this guy is a confused Northern Somali who think their ancestors are Arabs: the majority of Northern Somali mixed heavily with Yemeni: their clans are Darod(Yonis clan) and Issaq...no other Somali clan claim Arab ancestry...you are right he only represent a tiny part of the Somali population...they are alien from an African perspective...but unfortunately they are a big portion of the Somali refugee population in Europe and America but are not really representative culturally or physically of the original Somali population...I mean they are too mixed...

As usual you talk straight out of your kikuyu ass (why you always bring up the word *somali* on topics that have nothing to do with it? you have serious issues)

Everyone knows that it's people from moqdishu that are mixed with Persian,Bantu,Swahili,Omani,Oromo,Tuni and whatnot. People from this region didn't even speak the somali language untill 500 years ago. They all became somalilized. The real somalis have always been located at the coastal regions of the northern half of what is today somalia. Next time get your facts straight.

LOL Who Somalized Southern Somalis and what language did they speak 500 years ago? What real Somalis lived in the northern coast of Somalia. Don't you know almost all northern Somalis have been nomads until very recently who considered eating fish or any thing to do with the sea as terrible as a Muslim person would consider eating pork.

Are you aware Tunni are pure Somali tribe? And no northern Somalis are no more real Somalis than southern Somalis, at least the southern Somalis don't claim to have other origins.

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Habari wrote:

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I'm not from Kenya idiot...you picked that from Yonis, who doesn't even know me and you are racist: coolie is a racist term, please drop it...idiot
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What the hell is your loon ass babeling about? Damn you need help bad.

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quote:
Originally posted by Habari:
Wolofi, this guy is a confused Northern Somali who think their ancestors are Arabs: the majority of Northern Somali mixed heavily with Yemeni: their clans are Darod(Yonis clan) and Issaq...no other Somali clan claim Arab ancestry...you are right he only represent a tiny part of the Somali population...they are alien from an African perspective...but unfortunately they are a big portion of the Somali refugee population in Europe and America but are not really representative culturally or physically of the original Somali population...I mean they are too mixed...

Stop talking nonsense, you don't know much about Somalis. How do you know the pictures of fighters that you have posted are southern Somalis and not from other parts of Somalia or from the Somali region of Ethiopia? The Somaliland president is also not Isaaq as you wrote nor does he have any Arab blood. If you line a Isaaq, Darood, Dir and Madhibaan from northern Somalia with a Raxanweyn, Hawiye, Digil and Dir from southern Somalia, no Somali can tell what clan each individual belongs to and you as a Tanzanian wants to tell us what a southern and northern Somali look like?
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Don't you guys ever stop!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
The effect of ancient population bottlenecks on human phenotypic variation.

Manica A, Amos W, Balloux F, Hanihara T.

Department of Zoology, University of Cambridge, Downing Street, Cambridge CB2 3EJ, UK. am315@cam.ac.uk

The origin and patterns of dispersal of anatomically modern humans are the focus of considerable debate. Global genetic analyses have argued for one single origin, placed somewhere in Africa. This scenario implies a rapid expansion, with a series of bottlenecks of small amplitude, which would have led to the observed smooth loss of genetic diversity with increasing distance from Africa. Analyses of cranial data, on the other hand, have given mixed results, and have been argued to support multiple origins of modern humans. Using a large data set of skull measurements and an analytical framework equivalent to that used for genetic data, we show that the loss in genetic diversity has been mirrored by a loss in phenotypic variability. We find evidence for an African origin, placed somewhere in the central/southern part of the continent, which harbours the highest intra-population diversity in phenotypic measurements. We failed to find evidence for a second origin, and we confirm these results on a large genetic data set. Distance from Africa accounts for an average 19-25% of heritable variation in craniometric measurements-a remarkably strong effect for phenotypic measurements known to be under selection.

^ The thread title is and unfortunate provocation, but this is a good post.
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