quote:Originally posted by Arwa: WAAAAYYYYYYY off topic, Clyde.
Do you happen to know works by Richard Wright?
Thanks
I am trying to understand your point-of-view Arwa. And what does Richard Wright have to do with anything?
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quote:Originally posted by Arwa: WAAAAYYYYYYY off topic, Clyde.
Do you happen to know works by Richard Wright?
Thanks
Yes I read every one. In fact back in the day when I taught High School I taught several of the books in my class. You might be surprised to learn that my interest in Africans in China began after I read The Man Who Cried I am, by John A. Williams. If you really want to understand why many young Afro-Americans were ready to fight and die in the late 1960's you have to read this book.
This book sent me on my quest to discover the African influence in East Asia and the Pacific.
quote:Originally posted by Arwa: WAAAAYYYYYYY off topic, Clyde.
Do you happen to know works by Richard Wright?
Thanks
Yes I read every one. In fact back in the day when I taught High School I taught several of the books in my class. You might be surprised to learn that my interest in Africans in China began after I read The Man Who Cried I am, by John A. Williams. If you really want to understand why many young Afro-Americans were ready to fight and die in the late 1960's you have to read this book.
This book sent me on my quest to discover the African influence in East Asia and the Pacific.
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I'll read, Clyde. Thank you.
Also, Richard Wright actually wrote 8000 Haikus, I read somewhere, and that was before civil right movement. I wish our younger generation would be more international oriented as Wright and Ishmael Reed and others.
What I admire most about these Black writers is, that they took their struggle beyond Mississippi Delta to Africa and Asia, and never forgot their culture (folklore) and where they came from, never allowed to bow to the White Man and his ideology (Communism, eg. Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison), and become something to romanticize of or a museum object like what happened to Native Indians.
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Arwa - I see your point, but I fear it may be hopeless. Note above, how easily a crude trap is entered. Better give the video producer credit, at least he is trying.
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quote:This book sent me on my quest to discover the African influence in East Asia and the Pacific.
^ A pointless quest I might add.
Like studying "alien UFO" influences on the Egyptian pyramids.
Try studying African influence in Africa. A place you've all but
ignored.
I don't know what intellectual tradition you adhere too, but the Afro-American intellectual tradition especially in relation to world history beginning with DuBois' The Negro, has emphasized the Black Civilizations everywhere in the world. As a result, we do not limit ourselves to Africa, because we don't allow Europeans to tell us what we can and can not write about.
You can read about Afro-American ancient history heuristics here
Once the Zhou took over China they made the Blacks slaves and sacrificed them on a regular basis. Since then they have historically been anti-everyone non Han/Hua (Chinese).
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All that video, and the comments section under it, shows is the astronomically low level of intelligence Youtubers cam sink to.
Living in Hong Kong, I can tell you that there ARE "yellow" Chinese with full lips or wide noses, so your "Africoid" statues don't strike me as being anything other than somewhat stylized portraits of people who could pass for modern Chinese. Also, it is interesting that you guys choose unpainted images to pass off as images of your "black Chinese". Almost all painted images left by the ancient Chinese look like these:
Doesn't look like they were part of your mighty world-spanning African race, does it?
P.S. Marc, that lion statue is not a sphinx in the Nile Valley tradition. It's a typical Chinese guardian lion with a stylized lion face, and its position near that old imperial tomb is no more related to the Sphinx's station near the Great Pyramid than the intuitive, easily-grasped notion that it would be a good idea to have the likeness of a huge, angry, meat-eating feline guard your dead king's remains.
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Tyrann0saurus wrote: it is interesting that you guys choose unpainted images to pass off as images of your "black Chinese". Almost all painted images left by the ancient Chinese look like these: Doesn't look like they were part of your mighty world-spanning African race, does it?
If your point is: that Chinese are NOT Black, then your point is well taken. However, I don’t recall anyone saying that Chinese WERE Black. Rather, posters have provided evidence that Chinese civilization was founded by Blacks, and that many, perhaps most, Chinese carry Black genes. At this point, because of the preponderance of admixture, I don’t think that anyone can truly say what a “Pure Blood” Mongol looks like. My own feeling is that the very pale Koreans and Japanese are most likely the prototype. (If you would like to dispute any of the above, please read about haplogroup “D” first).
But in reading the Chinese blog, one thing struck me: that is, how similar all the people of the Eurasian plains really are. I couldn’t help but to compare the Chinese with the Greeks. Both recycled that which they had gotten by conquest, and then called it their own, with all the inappropriate hubris, one would expect from a pretender.
To demonstrate my point, I ask you to consider the following. China is the oldest surviving civilization, yet aside from it’s large military, it is a backward country. Egypt is a backward country. Iraq is a backward country. Iran is a backward country. Pakistan/India is a backward country. Thailand is a backward country. Cambodia is a backward country. Vietnam is a backward country. Indonesia is a backward country. Mexico, though very wealthy, is a backward country. Greece, if not for its relationship with Europe, would be a backward country.
What all of the above countries have in common, is that in all of them, great, highly advanced civilizations were founded by Black people, but once the Blacks were removed, or breed out of their societies, they stagnated, and could not progress any further.
Interestingly this same fate awaited greater Europe, but for the advent of the “Industrial Revolution” in the 1700’s. Which as I’m sure you know, was based on the “STEAM ENGINE”. It might interest you to know: The Steam Engine was invented by a Black African in Egypt, named Heron, in 62 A.D. (he also invented the “Windmill” when was the last time you heard the “Dutch” say – thank you). If the Romans or later Turks, who ruled the area, had been able to figure out how to use it (the Steam Engine), we would all be wearing Togas or Turbans today. But it is still interesting that it took Whites: one thousand, seven hundred years, to finally figure it out – seems a very long time.
I must also point out that the pictures you posted are not really ancient.
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