I initially thought that it was a tie, but after rewatching it, I also believe Obama got the upper hand. McCain seemed too stiff and condescending, while Obama was poised, strong, gracious, and thoughtful. On substance, I think Obama took him to task, though it was close as noted.
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Do you think that President Barack Obama will order an investigation after how President Bush on 9/11 bombed the New York Trade Centre? Yesterday a friend and I were talking about living in this world of lies, and discussed those two 'vaporised' planes falling in Pennsylvania and entering the Pentagon, the mysteriously collapsing buildings next to the twin towers and identity papers falling out of the highjack-ers pocket, unscathed.
Egmond Codfried
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No, he would conduct foreign policy exactly the same as President Bush. Anyone who claims the attacks were a conspiracy needs to be put in a mental institution for their own good.
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^ I think YOU need to be put in a mental institution for the sake of just about every other human being on the planet.
In any case, Obama is not yet President. Let him win first, then we can talk about the reforms he'll introduce. Posts: 3423 | From: the jungle - when y'all stop playing games, call me. | Registered: Jul 2006
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: No, he would conduct foreign policy exactly the same as President Bush. Anyone who claims the attacks were a conspiracy needs to be put in a mental institution for their own good.
[No plane hit the Pentagon!]
Dear, are you being paid to be on this forum? You are becoming quiet a pest now. I have noticed that American's living in the goddam Free World, the Fucking Home of the Brave, God’s own Fucking Country, and all that Fucking Justice for All Bullshit, are scared shitless of their own goddam government. So perhaps its people like you who intimidate them on forums like these. Don't you have some flag waving ceremony to attend to or kill more sandnigger women and children in goddam Iraq, you genocidal, Yankee Monster?
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Is this the site of a plane crash? Since when do planes vaporise? Children, how many more lies will it take?
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The Americans had a chance not too long ago, to vote for Ron Paul who would have fixed *ALL* their problems by tackling the root cause, albeit painfully so.
But the spoilt bastards wanted to keep living in la la land. They wanted to keep buying stupid consumer goods that didn't even bring them happiness at the expense of poor African kids who could not afford a loaf of bread as a consequence of American greed.
NOW the only chance they have in hell of something of their fragile nation being salvaged is to vote in Obama.Posts: 3423 | From: the jungle - when y'all stop playing games, call me. | Registered: Jul 2006
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Only trashy people use the profane language some of you use on this board.
There is only an American foreign policy, not a Bush or Obama policy.
Dear,
You make all these grand statements as if you were this Grand Old Man of Politics, a veritable member of the fucking Upper Two. Am I right? Do Bush, MacCain and Obama consult you on matters regarding foreign policy? Does ‘Housenigger Extraordinaire’ Condoleeza Fucking Rice recognise you on sight? Do you lunch with this Nancy Pelosi, this Hot Mamma? Does CNN keep a hotline to you for comments?
Yes?
Well sweetheart if the answers are 'NO' you are fucking delusional. Do you really think these people care about you? You are nothing but plebs, White Trash, indoctrinated to lick the very ass of the people who are lying to you and stealing you blind. Not to mention what they do with these poor Arabs who just want to be free. Enjoy there own riches.
So you better get out the way, don’t provoke me, and make sure you pay your fucking mortgage.
Egmond Codfried
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I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
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In fact, they change little at all. Foreign policy is based on 'interests' and those interests change little from administration to administration. A class is diplomatic history would help you. There are several excellent offerings on line. Troy University offers some solid International Relations classes on line. Further, I am not a "dude."
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So this thing started when Bush stole the elections with the help of his brother in Florida. I still see a woman exclaiming: 'I was robbed in Florida [of my vote].' But Enlightenment minded American's should have already protested against this entire dynasty like going on as if European style Kingship is reintroduced. First Bush THE FATHER then Bush THE SON and THE HOLY GHOST in Florida. Then we get this 9/11 fracas which is clearly, clearly fake, with planes vaporising. There can not be two minds about this. And you Americans are so intimidated never discussing these wrongs.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
He's no getto trash, he's an Essex boy who unlike you actually THINKS.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
OH SHOOT!...You are still here, making these grandiose statements. Should you not be sitting at the hm... hm border to watch out for Mexicans entering your hm... hm country illegaly?
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
OH SHOOT!...You are still here, making these grandiose statements. Should you not be sitting at the hm... hm border to watch out for Mexicans entering your hm... hm country illegaly?
that is not funny.......
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"It's common hearsay that most people will consider your Black if your are half, or better yet, even "look Black". There is a difference between what people's perceptions are and the reality of it all. Obama is no more of a Black man than he is a White man. No matter what people say." ==================================================
Dear,
It always amazes me when people make remarks as these. Of course Obama is half White and half Black or rather ‘half American White’ and ‘half Kenyan Black.’ Who knows: his mother’s side might have ONE ore more drops of Black Blood and his father might have a distant White ancestor, with all this British colonialism raging in Kenya. So we can get very mathematical about this.
The reality however, as I see it, is that America is a racist state where white supremacy is a fact of live. As I was shocked to read in this forum site (onedroprule.org) that some American States, towns and areas are a no-go if you are Black and coloured. It makes me wonder just what kind of ‘social justice’ America is spreading around the world, as these horrid things are still countenanced in America itself.
White’s are supposed to be this superior being so every precaution is taken that it works out and is perceived this way. Just like men are still perceived as superior then women and have all the privileges in the world, no matter how stupid and weak they might be. Even female foetuses are under threat and the language discriminates against women, as it does against Blacks. In colonial times the Europeans would consciously create a mulatto middle class, even taken their half White offspring away from the influences of their Black, Indian, Amer Indian, Indonesian, what have you, mothers. Their mother's names were sometimes even omitted from the Birth- and Christening registers. So colour became a sign of loyalty to the status quo.
I’m beginning to see Obama, to be used by the establishment as a kind of brown lubricant to shaft the Americans with a new war against Iran. So the rich Americans can be richer from the spoils of war. Somehow the Blacks will be again, but more deviously be manipulated to belief that the American Dream is also their dream, and readily register for soldier duties, because they now might have a Black president.Posts: 5454 | From: Holland | Registered: Aug 2008
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quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: that is not funny.......
What is not funny? Are we supposed to be funny here? What means funny to you? Are you up for a discussion, or are you just whining?
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quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried: msmochachina wrote:
It's common hearsay that most people will consider your Black if your are half, or better yet, even "look Black". There is a difference between what people's perceptions are and the reality of it all. Obama is no more of a Black man than he is a White man. No matter what people say. ==================================================
LOL look at these guys sucking up to Obama now. Buncha kiss arses, buncha Yes men!
Obama is Black. Not only that but, have you seen his wife and kids!?
And if we must acknowledge his white side then I guess it's safe to say he's a "Black Man" and a "White Woman" ... literally! Posts: 1819 | From: odesco baba | Registered: Feb 2005
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^^ I'm an Indian. Certainly not white. That dude is Blacker than me!!!
quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
OH SHOOT!...You are still here, making these grandiose statements. Should you not be sitting at the hm... hm border to watch out for Mexicans entering your hm... hm country illegaly?
Ahem. Excuse me delusional person. Aren't so-called (white) Americans mostly illegal on that land anyway??? or did you forget? native Indian heads being blown off?? African slaves dragged in??? You forgot too soon!!! Posts: 1819 | From: odesco baba | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Obama Horus Boy: The Americans had a chance not too long ago, to vote for Ron Paul who would have fixed *ALL* their problems by tackling the root cause, albeit painfully so.
But the spoilt bastards wanted to keep living in la la land. They wanted to keep buying stupid consumer goods that didn't even bring them happiness at the expense of poor African kids who could not afford a loaf of bread as a consequence of American greed.
NOW the only chance they have in hell of something of their fragile nation being salvaged is to vote in Obama.
Care to elaborate? Posts: 5555 | From: Tha 5th Dimension. | Registered: Apr 2006
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^ The FED is the root cause of the [American] problem.
And central banks in general stink.
quote:Originally posted by Alive-(What Box):
quote:Originally posted by Obama Horus Boy: ...
NOW the only chance they have in hell of something of their fragile nation being salvaged is to vote in Obama.
Care to elaborate?
^ Go listen to how Obama intends to spend the $700 Billi bail out to find out why.
If McCain wins the post you guys are seriously over. He'll be giving y'all the right royal shafting for one last time.Posts: 3423 | From: the jungle - when y'all stop playing games, call me. | Registered: Jul 2006
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This is the deal, children. We are going to vote Obama into office because that could give us all a major p.r. boost. But we pray it does not go bad. That he is not caught snorting this powder stuff and she does not turn out to be a bulldagger dyke or something. But he is today in favour of giving our taxmoney to them mortgage-racket thiefs. And not to the poor people who suffer and are homeless because their governement failed to protect them from these ferocious sharks. Let this be the writing on the wall. Saint Obama is not going to safe us.
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Sauron. . . . Another confused racist nut!!! In case you missed it. . . .black does not equate to negroid. And GTFOH with your school boy games.
quote:Originally posted by Lord Sauron: ^^ I'm an Indian. Certainly not white. That dude is Blacker than me!!!
quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
OH SHOOT!...You are still here, making these grandiose statements. Should you not be sitting at the hm... hm border to watch out for Mexicans entering your hm... hm country illegaly?
Ahem. Excuse me delusional person. Aren't so-called (white) Americans mostly illegal on that land anyway??? or did you forget? native Indian heads being blown off?? African slaves dragged in??? You forgot too soon!!!
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I HAVE MADE A CORRECTION IN MY SATIRICAL, MOCK 'ATTACK' AND ADDED 'TO THEM (YOU ARE WHITE TRASH)'. IF YOU READ MY THREADS YOU WILL FIND I'M NOT A RACIST, I JUST STAND WITH THE UNDERDOG. AND TO ME, AS I STATED EARLIER, WHITE PEOPLE ARE BLACKS WITH A WHITE SKIN. I'M MOSTLY FIGHTING IDEAS AND NOT PERSONS. SO I HAD NO INTENTION OF CALLING ANYONE 'WHITE TRASH.'
quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Only trashy people use the profane language some of you use on this board.
There is only an American foreign policy, not a Bush or Obama policy.
Dear,
You make all these grand statements as if you were this Grand Old Man of Politics, a veritable member of the fucking Upper Two. Am I right? Do Bush, MacCain and Obama consult you on matters regarding foreign policy? Does ‘Housenigger Extraordinaire’ Condoleeza Fucking Rice recognise you on sight? Do you lunch with this Nancy Pelosi, this Hot Mamma? Does CNN keep a hotline to you for comments?
Yes?
Well sweetheart if the answers are 'NO' you are fucking delusional. Do you really think these people care about you? TO THEM You are nothing but plebs, White Trash, indoctrinated to lick the very ass of the people who are lying to you and stealing you blind. Not to mention what they do with these poor Arabs who just want to be free. Enjoy there own riches.
So you better get out the way, don’t provoke me, and make sure you pay your fucking mortgage.
quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: I am not going to have a conversation with getto trash who cannot speak without using profane language.
I HAVE MADE A CORRECTION IN MY SATIRICAL, MOCK 'ATTACK' AND ADDED 'TO THEM (YOU ARE WHITE TRASH)'. IF YOU READ MY THREADS YOU WILL FIND I'M NOT A RACIST, I JUST STAND WITH THE UNDERDOG. AND TO ME, AS I STATED EARLIER, WHITE PEOPLE ARE BLACKS WITH A WHITE SKIN. I'M MOSTLY FIGHTING IDEAS AND NOT PERSONS. SO I HAD NO INTENTION OF CALLING ANYONE 'WHITE TRASH.'Posts: 5454 | From: Holland | Registered: Aug 2008
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^ I'm feeling much better than you are - Loser. Posts: 3423 | From: the jungle - when y'all stop playing games, call me. | Registered: Jul 2006
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The topic is Obama and Mccain. You stupid people, wasting time with nonsense, constantly fighting while your government robs you blind. Bombs you, spread AIDS among you, steals elections and lies all the time.
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quote: "The bottom line is that we have been tolerating her ilk, including George Bush, for a long time, and yet they proudly march under the banner of intolerance. If we can back away from using God as a political propaganda, we will also see a decrease in the number of intolerant religionists who manage to reach the corridors of power. " -- Deepak Chopra
Do you think Obama will publish the names of his contributers? Who are these filthy rich people who trust him not to go changing anything they do not want to have changed.
Egmond Codfried
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quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried: Who are these filthy rich people who trust him not to go changing anything they do not want to have changed.
Jews.
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quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried: Who are these filthy rich people who trust him not to go changing anything they do not want to have changed.
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