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Egmond Codfried
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Noam Chomsky - America is not a Democracy, nor was it ever intended to be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmJv_wf91W8

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Now you have noticed it?
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quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
Now you have noticed it?

NO, BUT WHO WILL BREAK IT TO THESE POOR AMERICANS? BOMBED WITH VAPORISED PLANES ON 9/11 BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!
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EGMOND CODFRIED:

DID PRESIDENT WASHINGTON HAVE NOBLE LEANINGS?



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[George Washington with a Moor, A SYMBOL FOR HIS BLUE BLOOD, not with the ‘light skinned mulatto’ William Lee! John Trumbull's 1780 painting of George Washington]



AS I’M DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE MOOR IN EUROPEAN ART (1500-1789), I came to the conclusion that the Moor was used as a symbol for Blue Blood, by the Old Nobility. Those who were nobles from the beginning of time; not bestowed on them by mere Kings. So I’m surprised to find portraits of George Washington with a Moor.

I do not know how these portraits came into existence, but it looks like the first president of a republic, which was found on the high principles of equality, would still flaunt his ‘ancien regime’ noble credentials. This thread is started to find out what the forum knows about this matter.

The description of William Lee state that he is a ‘light skinned mulatto.’ So it’s surprising that people would put in Wikipedia that he is shown on the portraits of Washington, while the figure looks more like a Classical African. The very image of a Moor we see in European paintings. Usually smaller than the main figure, many times a child, gorgeously dressed, generic looks. Paintings are made for looking at the image, and understanding te symbolism. By the 1780's in the USA, any painter would know how pure Africans or Mulatto-types would look like.

Interesting is the portrait of Washington alleged natural son, West Ford, which might show a real mulatto-type, with darker skin, as his mother was a slave-woman.

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Sources

Presidents:
George Washington (1732-99)

George Washington was rather fond of heraldry, as the following quote suggests:

It is far from my design to intimate an opinion, that Heraldry, Coat-Armor, etc. might not be rendered conducive to public and private use with us; or that they can have any tendency unfriendly to the purest spirit of Republicanism. On the contrary, a different conclusion is deducible from the practice of Congress, and the states; all of which have established some kind of Armorial Devices, to authenticate their official instruments.

George (of a patrician bent, it is true) used his arms (Argent, two bars beneath three mullets gules) on seals and book-plates. These arms appear on the flag of the District of Columbia.
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U.S. Presidents of Royal Descent:
John Quincy Adams, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Grover Cleveland, John Calvin Coolidge, Gerald Ford, Ulysses S.Grant,Benjamin Harrison, William Henry Harrison, Rutherford Birchard Hayes, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison Jr., James Monroe, Theodore and Franklin D. Roosevelt, George Washington
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Washington’s ancestry

http://www.ancestryuk.com/WashingtonAncestry.htm

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William Lee, detail from painting below.

John Trumbull's 1780 painting George Washington also depicts William Lee.

William Lee (c. 1750–1828), also known as Billy Lee or Will Lee, was George Washington's personal servant and the only one of Washington's slaves freed outright by Washington in his will. Because he served by Washington's side throughout the American Revolutionary War and was sometimes depicted next to Washington in paintings, Lee was one of the most publicized African Americans of his time.

On 3 May 1768, George Washington purchased Lee, then a teenager described in Washington's account book as "Mulatto Will", from the estate of the late Colonel John Lee of Westmoreland County, Virginia for sixty-one pounds and fifteen shillings. William kept the surname "Lee" from this previous owner. Also purchased at this time was William's brother Frank, as well as two other slaves. Washington paid high prices for William and Frank, as they were to be household slaves rather than field laborers. Light-skinned mulattoes like William and Frank were often chosen to serve as domestic servants, who were given responsibilities and privileges most slaves never enjoyed. Frank became Washington's butler at Mount Vernon, while William served in a variety of roles, including Washington's valet or manservant. As valet, Lee performed chores such as brushing Washington's long hair and tying it behind his head.
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The Nobility

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/nobility.htm


WEST FORD, AMERICAN SON




http://www.afrigeneas.com/spotlight/spotlight003.html




DESCENDENTS OF WEST FORD, THE NATURAL SON OF GEORGE WASHINGTON

http://www.westfordlegacy.com/father.html


FRANK M. SWEET:

There is no question that the "founding fathers" of the nation were old-school aristocrats who opposed "high principles of equality." Egalitarianism was preached by a few only when it was realized that the war would be lost without an inflow of volunteers. Egalitarianism was promised by a few radicals in order to attract fighters. The promise was promptly broken by the landowning gentry as soon as independence was won.

Until Andrew Jackson, only male landowners could legally vote and only wealthy plantation owners could legally run for public office. The "founding fathers," including Washington, Jefferson, etc. sincerely believed that only hereditary aristocracy (owners of large tidewater plantations) had the right to rule. Come to think of it, women did not gain the vote until the 1920s.

Many introductory texts explain that, until the Jacksonian era, all of the nation's rulers (president, Congress, Supreme Court) openly rejected egalitarianism for White males. And even in Jackson's administration, egalitarianism for White males was a granted only as a trade-off for disenfranchising free African Americans and the extermination of eastern Native Americans via the Second Seminole War and The Trail of Tears. A recent book on the topic, that is a good place to start, is Alexander Keyssar, The Right to Vote: The Contested History of Democracy in the United States (New York: Basic Books, 2000).

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quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
Now you have noticed it?

NO, BUT WHO WILL BREAK IT TO THESE POOR AMERICANS? BOMBED WITH VAPORISED PLANES ON 9/11 BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!
People with brains have no need for being noticed, only the fools whose brains they only use to beauty thier cranium do.
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quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
Now you have noticed it?

NO, BUT WHO WILL BREAK IT TO THESE POOR AMERICANS? BOMBED WITH VAPORISED PLANES ON 9/11 BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!
People with brains have no need for being noticed, only the fools whose brains they only use to beauty thier cranium do.
Y're to deep man! What is it your saying?
What I worry about is the next fall out from this hideous financial crisis brought on by the US by their own doing! It's getting bigger and bigger and now our Dutch tax-payers money flows daily from a big pipe-line from the tax office right into the pockets of these capitalist thieves. Will they now start killing Black and Muslim people randomly to deflect attention, to hide their own crimes?

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quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
Now you have noticed it?

NO, BUT WHO WILL BREAK IT TO THESE POOR AMERICANS? BOMBED WITH VAPORISED PLANES ON 9/11 BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!
People with brains have no need for being noticed, only the fools whose brains they only use to beauty thier cranium do.
Y're to deep man! What is it your saying?
What I worry about is the next fall out from this hideous financial crisis brought on by the US by their own doing! It's getting bigger and bigger and now our Dutch tax-payers money flows daily from a big pipe-line from the tax office right into the pockets of these capitalist thieves. Will they now start killing Black and Muslim people randomly to deflect attention, to hide their own crimes?

It is the repiblican government(Bush) doing, once he is out of the WHite Hous, that will end.
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quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
Now you have noticed it?

NO, BUT WHO WILL BREAK IT TO THESE POOR AMERICANS? BOMBED WITH VAPORISED PLANES ON 9/11 BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!
People with brains have no need for being noticed, only the fools whose brains they only use to beauty thier cranium do.
Y're to deep man! What is it your saying?
What I worry about is the next fall out from this hideous financial crisis brought on by the US by their own doing! It's getting bigger and bigger and now our Dutch tax-payers money flows daily from a big pipe-line from the tax office right into the pockets of these capitalist thieves. Will they now start killing Black and Muslim people randomly to deflect attention, to hide their own crimes?

It is the repiblican government(Bush) doing, once he is out of the WHite Hous, that will end.
HOW WILL IT END? WHAT SECRET POWERS OBAMA-POO HAS? PRAY, DO TELL!
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quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
HOW WILL IT END? WHAT SECRET POWERS OBAMA-POO HAS? PRAY, DO TELL![/b]

And what secret power whining has, do tell!!Have faith.
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quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
HOW WILL IT END? WHAT SECRET POWERS OBAMA-POO HAS? PRAY, DO TELL![/b]

And what secret power whining has, do tell!!Have faith.
Dear, you CAN'T be serious!

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DO YOU MEAN THíS SECRET WEAPON????

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by prmiddleeastern:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
HOW WILL IT END? WHAT SECRET POWERS OBAMA-POO HAS? PRAY, DO TELL![/b]

And what secret power whining has, do tell!!Have faith. [/QUOT]

Dear, you CAN'T be serious!

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DO YOU MEAN THIS????

Neither screaming and whining will stop what is happening on the US.
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