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David was born to an English mother and a Jamaican father and grew up in Bermondsey, London, for most of his childhood.David's father worked in a successful business as a panel beater and sprayer whilst his mother worked as a Library Assistant at the local university. David is one of three siblings. He has an older sister, Louisa Frisby, who owns a smoothie company and catering company and a younger brother James, a boxing enthusiast.

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Doug M I want you to click on that picture and tell me if that red-ish brown dude is black or not.

I have seen you argue a lot about what black is or isn't from Africans to Asians to Native Americans and I haven't really understood your position.

Also, would you say that the Ancient Egyptians had this red-ish brown skin tone?

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David was born to an English mother and a Jamaican father and grew up in Bermondsey, London, for most of his childhood.David's father worked in a successful business as a panel beater and sprayer whilst his mother worked as a Library Assistant at the local university. David is one of three siblings. He has an older sister, Louisa Frisby, who owns a smoothie company and catering company and a younger brother James, a boxing enthusiast.

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Haye

Since you know how to use the internet, you should have found this for yourself. And this person nor his ancestry has anything to do with ancient Egypt and the ancestry of the persons from Ancient Egypt. The only remote linkage is via the African ancestry from his fathers side.
But of course you knew that.

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David was born to an English mother and a Jamaican father and grew up in Bermondsey, London, for most of his childhood.David's father worked in a successful business as a panel beater and sprayer whilst his mother worked as a Library Assistant at the local university. David is one of three siblings. He has an older sister, Louisa Frisby, who owns a smoothie company and catering company and a younger brother James, a boxing enthusiast.

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Haye

Since you know how to use the internet, you should have found this for yourself. And this person nor his ancestry has anything to do with ancient Egypt and the ancestry of the persons from Ancient Egypt. The only remote linkage is via the African ancestry from his fathers side.
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You're making no sense. In America(where the social classification arose, and still exists) this individual below would be seen as an African American. During the civil rights era, he would've sat at the back of the bus with the rest of us.

So what are your valid arguments?

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LOL you are one dumb bean eating spic dude LOL don't talk to me this is for veteran board members not cut and paste charlatans like you.

Adios Amig(a)

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LOL don't talk to me this is for veteran board members not cut and paste charlatans like you.

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LOL you are one dumb bean eating spic dude

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Far from dumb. I was born and raised in Nyc, I have no accent, therefore, when I say speak, it doesn't sound like spic(which is where spic derives from). So I couldn't care less.


Also, what's wrong with eating gandules? The gandules (pigeon peas in English)eaten in Puerto Rico come from Africa, you dumb prick.

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LOL don't talk to me this is for veteran board members not cut and paste charlatans like you.

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You're no veteran, veteran troll maybe. You've been showing your idiocy ever since I've came onto this forum 6 months ago. Obviously you have, and had no point.

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This is the last time I will ever address you Paco


YOU

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BLACK

Egypt nor Africa nor African Americans have anything to do with you.

Stay out of our business and affairs and stop break dancing and "bombing" thats so late 80's lol

You Booooorrrrrrikwaaaahs are always coping blacks and are 15 years behind lol get off of black people's dycks and fvck with your own sorry azz people just don't play with American missiles on your pathetic island LOLOLOL!!!


Don't bother responding because this is the end of any dialogue between me and you(as if we really ever had any)I don't respect Johnny come lately's that just parrot what others say, cut and paste, become sychophantic butlers and don't think for themselves to gain friends on a freakin' forum on the internet.

Typical spic business, but WHATEVER


Peace and chicken grease and arroz y bacalaos y penir and whatever else junk you island mongrels eat LOLOLOLOL

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Jesús Colón (1901-1974) born in Cayey, Puerto Rico is a Puerto Rican writer known as the Father of the Nuyorican Movement.





Colón was born after the Spanish-American War when the American Tobacco Company gained control of most of the tobacco producing land in Puerto Rico. His father was a baker and his family owned the "Colon Hotel". His home was behind the town's cigar factory, which hired "readers" to read stories and current events to the employees whilst they worked. As a child, Colón visited the factory to listen to these stories. He was exposed to the writings of Karl Marx and Émile Zola. From these ideas he formed a personal socialist ideology and also an interest in both the spoken and written word. The family moved to San Juan where he attended and continued his education at the Jose Julian Acosta School. His brother Joaquin attended the Central High School.


In 1917, when he was 16 he boarded the S.S. Carolina as an employee and landed in Brooklyn, New York. There he went to live with his older brother, Joaquin Colon, who was already residing in Brooklyn. He worked in various unskilled jobs and was able to observe the deplorable conditions of the working class of the time.


Colón was discriminated against because of the color of his skin (he was Black) and because of his difficulty speaking the English language. He wrote about his experiences, as well as the experiences of other immigrants, becoming among the first Puerto Ricans to do so in English. His best known work, A Puerto Rican in New York, set the stage for the literary movement known as the "Nuyorican Movement". Colón inspired other writers such as Piri Thomas, Esmeralda Santiago, Nicholasa Mohr, Pedro Pietri, and others.

Colón began a Spanish language newspaper and in 1955, he wrote a regular column for the Daily Worker, a publication of the Communist Party in New York. Colón was also the president of "Hispanic Publications" which published history books, political pamphlets in Spanish, and literature.

In the 1950s, during the McCarthy period, Colón was called to testify in front of the House Un-American Activities Committee in Washington, D.C. He outraged the Committee when he stated "I will not cooperate with this committee in its aim to destroy the Bill of Rights and other Constitutional rights of the people".

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Juano Hernandez (July 19, 1901 - July 17, 1970) was one of the first Puerto Ricans of African descent to become a major star in the United States and one of the first "new style" black screen actors, who neither sang nor danced but played regular characters.




Born Huano G. Hernandez in San Juan the capital of Puerto Rico to a Puerto Rican fisherman and a Brazilian mother. Hernandez's father died soon after his birth and his mother moved back to Brazil. His mother died when he was still a child and he had to spend most of his youth in the streets of Rio de Janeiro singing for food.

Hernandez did not receive any formal education, however, he taught himself the basics of reading and writing. He was hired by a circus and became a performer. Hernandez enjoyed performing in front of the public and decided that he wanted a career in the field of entertainment. Hernandez moved to the United States to accomplish his goals.


In New York City, he worked in vaudeville and minstrel shows. During his spare time he perfected his diction by studying Shakespeare thus, enabling himself to work in the radio. He co-starred in radio's first all-black soap opera We Love and Learn. He also participated in the following soap operas: Mandrake the Magician (opposite Raymond Edward Johnson and Jessica Tandy), The Shadow, Tennessee, Jed and Against the Storm. He became a household name after his participation in The Cavalcade of America, a series which promoted American history and inventiveness. His participation in the chorus of the 1927 Broadway musical production Showboat opened the "doors" to his career as a film actor.


In the early years of the movie industry, movie companies were owned and operated by whites. Blacks were often cast in stereotyped roles such as maids, butlers or uneducated slaves. At times the role of a black person was played by a white man with black make-up. In 1912 a group of black businessmen, lead by C.E. Hawk, realized that the black communities across the nation were in need of a black film industry that would produce movies about black themes with an all-black cast. The year 1913, witnessed the founding of the Foster Photoplay Company in Chicago, which was the first black-owned motion picture production and distributing entity. In 1916, the Lincoln Motion picture Company was established in Los Angeles. These movies were to be distributed by blacks and exhibited in black owned theaters in black neighborhoods. Oscar Micheaux (1884-1951) was a pioneering black filmmaker who in 1918, established his own film company, Micheaux Film and Book Company, in Chicago. He produced and directed over 30 films. In 1932, Micheaux cast Hernandez in his first role, that of "Gomez" a drug lord, in the film titled The Girl from Chicago. Hernandez participated in 23 films throughout his career. In 1949, he acted in his first mainstream film, based on William Faulkner's novel entitled Intruder in the Dust, where he played the role of "Lucas Beauchamp", a poor southern sharecropper unjustly accused of murder. The film earned him a Golden Globe Nomination for "New Star of the Year".


Films in which he has participated:

* The Girl from Chicago (1932) .... Gomez
* Harlem Is Heaven (1932) (uncredited) .... Cop
* Lying Lips (1939) .... Rev. Bryson
* Intruder in the Dust (1949) .... Lucas Beauchamp
* Young Man with a Horn (1950) .... Art Hazzard
* The Breaking Point (1950) .... Wesley Park
* Stars in My Crown (1950) .... Uncle Famous Prill
* Trial (1955) .... Judge Theodore Motley
* Kiss Me Deadly (1955) .... Eddie Yeager
* Ransom! (1956) .... Jesse Chapman aka Uncle Jesse
* Something of Value (1957) .... Njogu, Oath Giver
* Machete (1958) .... Bernardo
* St. Louis Blues (1958) .... Rev. Charles Handy
* The Mark of the Hawk (1958) .... Amugu
* Sergeant Rutledge (1960) .... Sgt. Matthew Luke Skimore
* Westinghouse Presents: The Dispossessed (1961) (TV) .... Standing Bear
* Two Loves (1961) .... Rauhuia
* The Sins of Rachel Cade (1961) .... Kalanumu
* Hemingway's Adventures of a Young Man (1962) .... Bugs
* The Pawnbroker (1964) .... Mr. Smith
* The Extraordinary Seaman (1969) .... Ali Shar
* The Reivers (1969) .... Uncle Possum
* They Call Me MISTER Tibbs! (1970) .... Mealie Williamson

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Victor "Vic" Pellot Power (November 1, 1927 – November 29, 2005) was the second black Puerto Rican to play in Major League Baseball and the first Puerto Rican to play in the American League. He used the name Vic Power during his 12-year Major League career, but played as Victor Pellot when he played winter baseball in Puerto Rico.





Pellot (birth name: Victor Felipe Pellot Pove), born in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, was the second child in a family of six. Pellot showed an interest in baseball at a young age, however his father didn't want him to play baseball and would punish him if he caught him doing so. When he was 13 years old, his father died and it was only then that he was able to play the game he loved. His mother moved to the City of Caguas, there he attended and graduated from José Gautier Benítez High School.

In 1946 he started to practice with a local baseball team called the Senadores de San Juan (San Juan Senators) and learned many of his baseball skills. He was later invited to play for the Criollos de Caguas, where he was spotted by a New York Yankees scout. In 1949, he left for the City of Chicago and went to play for a minor league team in Drummondville, Quebec.


He was signed by the Yankees in 1951, and sent to their Triple-A team in Syracuse, New York. In 1953, even though he was the minor league batting champion, he was not invited to spring training. Had the Yankees not picked Elston Howard over him, he would have most likely been the first black and Puerto Rican to have been a member of the Yankees. Many blacks and Puerto Ricans protested in front of Yankee Stadium in response to what is believed to have been a racially motivated decision.


In 1954, he was recruited by the Philadelphia Athletics and thus became the first Puerto Rican to play for that team. Suffering from the racial discrimination which was rampant in the nation during that time, he could neither stay with the rest of the team at the same hotels nor be allowed to eat at the same restaurants as his white teammates. The Athletics moved to Kansas City in 1955, where he finished in second place in the batting race that season. In 1958, he was then sent to the Cleveland Indians. During his 12-season career, he played with the Philadelphia and Kansas City Athletics (1954-58); Cleveland Indians (1958-61), Minnesota Twins (1962-64), Los Angeles Angels (1964), Philadelphia Phillies (1964) and California Angels (1965).

Before retiring, he won seven Gold Glove Awards and was selected to seven All-Star teams. He was also voted the Minnesota Twins MVP in 1962. He has the record of having made one or more assists in 16 consecutive games. He shares the record of making two unassisted double plays in one game, and he is one of 11 players to steal home plate twice in one game, and he also shares the record of being assists leader for six years in a row and of double plays in a single game. Among his career totals are the following: 1,716 hits and 126 home runs, and he was only struck out 247 times out of 6,046 at bats.

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Rafael Cepeda Atiles a.k.a. "The Patriarch of the Bomba and Plena" (July 10, 1910 – July 21, 1996) was the patriarch of the Cepeda family, known internationally as the exponents of Puerto Rican-African folk music.




Cepeda was born in Puerta de Tierra, San Juan, Puerto Rico, to Modesto Cepeda and Leonor Atiles. Cepeda was born into a family who have passed the traditional dances of the Bomba and Plena from generation to generation. The Bomba is a music, rhythm and dance that was brought to Puerto Rico by the West African slaves. The Plena is another form of folkloric music of Puerto Rico of African origin. According to Cepeda, he was born while his mother Leonor was in the middle of a Bomba dance. He attended San Augustin Catholic School until the 8th grade in San Juan. After Cepeda finished 8th grade he took up amateur boxing and worked as a carpenter. During his free time he continued to practice dancing the Bomba and Plena.


In 1932, Cepeda married Caridad Brenes Caballero, a Bomba and Plena dancer. Together they had ten children. Cepeda decided to form a folkloric dance group with the help of his wife Caridad who would be the groups choreographer and the designer of the traditional custumes. In 1940, his first group, called "ABC", made their artistic debut in the local radio show of Rafael Quiñones Vidal "Tribuna del Arte" (Art Tribune).

In 1957, Cepeda formed a second folkloric group which he called "Grupo Folklorico Trapiche". This group held shows in all of the major hotels of the island and participated in the following three movies: "Carnaval en Puerto Rico" (1961) (Carnival in Puerto Rico), "Felicia" (1963) and "Mientras Puerto Rico duerme" (1964) (While Puerto Rico sleeps). In 1973, members of the family which included his children, formed the "Ballet Folklorico de la familia Cepeda" (The Folkloric Ballet of the Cepeda Family). This new group gained international fame and participated in the 1975 film "Mi Aventura en Puerto Rico" (My Adventure in Puerto Rico). The group which became a Puerto Rican institution, has made presentations in the United States, South and Central America, Europe and Asia. The Government of Puerto Rico named Cepeda "The Patriarch of the Bomba and Plena" in recognition of his contributions to the islands African musical culture.

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Juan Evangelista Venegas (June 2, 1929 - 1980s) was the first Puerto Rican to win an Olympic medal.





Venegas was born in a poor section of San Juan, Puerto Rico where fighting was a common way of life. Many of the youth at that time saw the sport of boxing as a way to a better life. Among them was Venegas, who admired Puerto Rico's first international boxing champion, Sixto Escobar. Venegas took up boxing and his boxing abilities soon called the attention of the islands young Olympic Committee. In 1948 the Puerto Rican Olympic Committee included him in the delegation which would represent the island.


The 1948 Summer Olympics celebrated in London, was a historical one for Puerto Rico because it was the first time that the island would participate as a nation in an international sporting event. The island's delegation consisted of twelve members. It should be noted that in their opening ceremonies, the Puerto Rican delegation carried the flag of the United States into the Olympic stadium. The United States protested, claiming that two nations could not use the same flag at the same time. The decree of Commonwealth on July 25, 1952 would give the Puerto Rican delegation a flag of their own.

In the 1948 Summer Olympics, known as the XIV Olympics, Juan Evangelista Venegas made Puerto Rican sports history by winning Puerto Rico's first Olympic medal ever when he beat Belgium's representative, Callenboat, on points for a unanimous decision. He won the bronze medal in boxing in the Bantamweight division, falling short of the silver medal to Giovanni Zuddas.


After returning back to a hero's welcome to Puerto Rico, Venegas turned professional. In 1949, Venegas made his professional boxing debut, but his boxing career was a brief and short one. Venegas, a southpaw, fought in the flyweight division for a total of 8 fights, 6 of which he won and 2 that he lost. None of his wins were by way of K.O.'s (Knockouts).


In honor of his memory, The Puerto Rican Boxing Commission sponsors the Juan Evangelista Venegas boxing tournament, which serves as a tune-up to future Olympic boxing propects.

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Juano Hernandez (July 19, 1901 - July 17, 1970) was one of the first Puerto Ricans of African descent to become a major star in the United States and one of the first "new style" black screen actors, who neither sang nor danced but played regular characters.


^^^I just love the implicit racism this dude ALWAYS displays LOLOLOLOL

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The previous movies Africans used to play in, their roles were maids or some kind of entertainers.

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He is like the energizer bunny he keeps going and going and going and bean diahrrea and going and going lololol

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He is like the energizer bunny he keeps going and going and going and bean diahrrea and going and going lololol

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And you're that salty premium pretending to be African. I get it, you're completely transparent.

Obviously you have no point in your thread, other than being an idiot, you have no answers, therefore I'm done with you.

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LOL Imagine some mongrel spic calling me white when he was raped by the very low caste Castillian and Spaniards that he and his pathetic people worship SMH SAD!!!


Island hoping degenerate!!

How has Christ Jesus worked out for you and your poeple Paco?! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLO

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You're making no sense. In America(where the social classification arose, and still exists) this individual below would be seen as an African American. During the civil rights era, he would've sat at the back of the bus with the rest of us.

So what are your valid arguments?

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I don't respect Johnny come lately's that just parrot what others say, cut and paste, become sychophantic butlers and don't think for themselves to gain friends on a freakin' forum on the internet.
Typical spic business, but WHATEVER

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David was born to an English mother and a Jamaican father and grew up in Bermondsey, London, for most of his childhood.David's father worked in a successful business as a panel beater and sprayer whilst his mother worked as a Library Assistant at the local university. David is one of three siblings. He has an older sister, Louisa Frisby, who owns a smoothie company and catering company and a younger brother James, a boxing enthusiast.

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Haye

Since you know how to use the internet, you should have found this for yourself. And this person nor his ancestry has anything to do with ancient Egypt and the ancestry of the persons from Ancient Egypt. The only remote linkage is via the African ancestry from his fathers side.
But of course you knew that.

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So in your view Doug M is he black or not? Why get so defensive it's only your opinion. Unless of course you think it's a trap...

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David was born to an English mother and a Jamaican father and grew up in Bermondsey, London, for most of his childhood.David's father worked in a successful business as a panel beater and sprayer whilst his mother worked as a Library Assistant at the local university. David is one of three siblings. He has an older sister, Louisa Frisby, who owns a smoothie company and catering company and a younger brother James, a boxing enthusiast.

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Haye

Since you know how to use the internet, you should have found this for yourself. And this person nor his ancestry has anything to do with ancient Egypt and the ancestry of the persons from Ancient Egypt. The only remote linkage is via the African ancestry from his fathers side.
But of course you knew that.

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Dude the answer is obvious.

Stop asking dumb questions.

And again, his parentage and complexion has nothing to do with ancient Egypt.

The ancient Egyptians of the dynastic period were PRIMARILY indigenous African blacks. They were not mixed African/Non Africans. Therefore, David Haye as a black person of mixed ancestry is not relevant to the discussion of INDIGENOUS AFRICANS who were NOT mixed with non Africans.

It is a stupid question to begin with.

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David was born to an English mother and a Jamaican father and grew up in Bermondsey, London, for most of his childhood.David's father worked in a successful business as a panel beater and sprayer whilst his mother worked as a Library Assistant at the local university. David is one of three siblings. He has an older sister, Louisa Frisby, who owns a smoothie company and catering company and a younger brother James, a boxing enthusiast.

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Haye

Since you know how to use the internet, you should have found this for yourself. And this person nor his ancestry has anything to do with ancient Egypt and the ancestry of the persons from Ancient Egypt. The only remote linkage is via the African ancestry from his fathers side.
But of course you knew that.

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Dude the answer is obvious.

Stop asking dumb questions.

And again, his parentage and complexion has nothing to do with ancient Egypt.

The ancient Egyptians of the dynastic period were PRIMARILY indigenous African blacks. They were not mixed African/Non Africans. Therefore, David Haye as a black person of mixed ancestry is not relevant to the discussion of INDIGENOUS AFRICANS who were NOT mixed with non Africans.

It is a stupid question to begin with.

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You know that it isn't a stupid and question and you have yet to answer it. I have seen you attack others for not answering directly and here you go doing the same thing.

Prove that Ancient Egyptians weren't mixed please.

Prove that admixture can't cause the very reddish brown skin that this boxer has and that Egyptians DEPICT themselves with in relation to other Africans.

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