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This "documentary" movie examines the creation of the world's monetary system in a very simple-to-understand manner. It also covers how the West utilizes the CIA, Jackals, IMF and World Banks to control resources of developing nations.
Thanks for posting this. As a fellow truthseeker I have to say I am extremly sad about what is going on with society. We are under attack. They put cameras up everywhere and watch us from all over. Obama has a limo named "The Beast". Obama calls for a New World Order Watch this video:
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We need to see more and more people take the time to post movies about the corrupt governments. Our freedoms are being taken away. I just finished watching a video that spoke about the powers that be are targeting race deduction and implementing steps to do this. They use eugenics. Some of the biggest names in America have given money to charities that promote race deduction. These people have no shame and will do what ever they can to complete there agendas. In the video they spoke about population control where families are only allowed 2 kids. They also showed evidence of children being used in eugenic reasearc as puppets and ginny pigs. They did some kind of radiation study on kids in jerusalem where the kids died, and those that lived suffer serious health issues. They target kids the future and use them in studies the video really needs to be watched. Children are the future of this world, and they are being raped of there future. They dumb them down and have them watching videos that have perversions in them. In the Toronto star the ran a page on sex on the youth. Not surprising they found kids are not affected by all the sexual perverse stuff found on the internet and T.V. Anyone with any sense would know that the Toronto star has been becoming more and more corrupt lately. Another section in the star had a whole section dedicated to showing babies why you ask? It was a promotion of Zellers. They use kids to advance there perverted ideas. In another section of the star and before people say this paper is not mainstream, I will tell you its the largest newspaper in Toronto. Anyways in another section they were talking about how pornography is mainstream and again they were saying stuff like it does not affect children. This is the sick and disgusting things taken ov er our society, the liberal talk about perversion as somehow normal. They attack women by trying to get them to think that porn is an okay job to do. These women don't even know how degrading the porn industry is and how they exploit women for nothing else but sex.
What needs to be understood is that *ALL* women are beautiful no matter how big or small. Women need to stop letting man force them into a box where they have to have plastics surgery and liposuction to be considered beautiful. All women are created by God and should realize the only person they should look to please is themselves. Women must take back there womanhood and stop letting man define for them what looks good. Letting man define what looks good has given women low selfesteem and depression. Some women have even died desperate to look good for men. It is ruining our women. Women are half the population, but they let the other half control there entire life. Look at all these rap videos that sterotype women as nothing more then eyecandy. They have the women basically throwing themselves at these men and degrading themselves at the same time. We have women like superhead who have made a career on being a video "ho". Young women watch these women and think to themselves that this is how women are supposed to act and dress.
it's called a trickle down effect where kids want to dress and act like there favorite musician. And if targetting kids is not bad enough, then they go to the next step. Have kids sing the most popular Pop and RnB songs, so other kids can "relate" to these kids since they are singing songs that adults made popular. So now kids want to buy albums by these other kids and we see that nothing is sacred in this society. When they think they can't control kids with music, then have other kids sing the songs so these kids can relate to it. Children suffer from a bad self image of themselves because they don't look like there favorite musicians and they get depressed and feel that they are failures simply because they think that they will never look like these people the idolize.
It's sad, Children have been known to kill themselves because they are afraid to let there parents down. The parents put so much pressure on there kids that they think that they can't go to there parents when they are in trouble. I remember in America, a little 4 yearold boy killed himself by hanging because he was afraid of showing his parents his report card. I also remember on CNN children 4 and 6 yearsold were smoking weed because of there corrupt uncles. The treating of kids as mini adults is one of the biggest things that need to be fought. Children should be able to enjoy childhood, without having to deal with adult situations. Your childhood only comes around once. But with the evil people desperate to sexualize kids they make sure to promote there sick agendas on kids. In the videos I posted, It talked about a satanic cult that was built below a school, they would take the kids and have them perform ritual killings of animals and they were also pedofiles. The NWO target kids because they want to corrupt them to the point that they are zombies to the system. That is why protecting kids has to be the most important thing to do on this earth. We can raise children to be truthseekers and not believe evreything there government tells them. We need to teach kids to question everything and make sure to not back down to the establishment. Children are the most important people on this world.
Peace
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Thanks for posting this. As a fellow truthseeker I have to say I am extremly sad about what is going on with society. We are under attack. They put cameras up everywhere and watch us from all over. Obama has a limo named "The Beast". Obama calls for a New World Order Watch this video:
quote:Originally posted by KING: We need to see more and more people take the time to post movies about the corrupt governments. Our freedoms are being taken away. I just finished watching a video that spoke about the powers that be are targeting race deduction and implementing steps to do this. They use eugenics. Some of the biggest names in America have given money to charities that promote race deduction. These people have no shame and will do what ever they can to complete there agendas. In the video they spoke about population control where families are only allowed 2 kids. They also showed evidence of children being used in eugenic reasearc as puppets and ginny pigs. They did some kind of radiation study on kids in jerusalem where the kids died, and those that lived suffer serious health issues. They target kids the future and use them in studies the video really needs to be watched. Children are the future of this world, and they are being raped of there future. They dumb them down and have them watching videos that have perversions in them. In the Toronto star the ran a page on sex on the youth. Not surprising they found kids are not affected by all the sexual perverse stuff found on the internet and T.V. Anyone with any sense would know that the Toronto star has been becoming more and more corrupt lately. Another section in the star had a whole section dedicated to showing babies why you ask? It was a promotion of Zellers. They use kids to advance there perverted ideas. In another section of the star and before people say this paper is not mainstream, I will tell you its the largest newspaper in Toronto. Anyways in another section they were talking about how pornography is mainstream and again they were saying stuff like it does not affect children. This is the sick and disgusting things taken ov er our society, the liberal talk about perversion as somehow normal. They attack women by trying to get them to think that porn is an okay job to do. These women don't even know how degrading the porn industry is and how they exploit women for nothing else but sex.
What needs to be understood is that *ALL* women are beautiful no matter how big or small. Women need to stop letting man force them into a box where they have to have plastics surgery and liposuction to be considered beautiful. All women are created by God and should realize the only person they should look to please is themselves. Women must take back there womanhood and stop letting man define for them what looks good. Letting man define what looks good has given women low selfesteem and depression. Some women have even died desperate to look good for men. It is ruining our women. Women are half the population, but they let the other half control there entire life. Look at all these rap videos that sterotype women as nothing more then eyecandy. They have the women basically throwing themselves at these men and degrading themselves at the same time. We have women like superhead who have made a career on being a video "ho". Young women watch these women and think to themselves that this is how women are supposed to act and dress.
it's called a trickle down effect where kids want to dress and act like there favorite musician. And if targetting kids is not bad enough, then they go to the next step. Have kids sing the most popular Pop and RnB songs, so other kids can "relate" to these kids since they are singing songs that adults made popular. So now kids want to buy albums by these other kids and we see that nothing is sacred in this society. When they think they can't control kids with music, then have other kids sing the songs so these kids can relate to it. Children suffer from a bad self image of themselves because they don't look like there favorite musicians and they get depressed and feel that they are failures simply because they think that they will never look like these people the idolize.
It's sad, Children have been known to kill themselves because they are afraid to let there parents down. The parents put so much pressure on there kids that they think that they can't go to there parents when they are in trouble. I remember in America, a little 4 yearold boy killed himself by hanging because he was afraid of showing his parents his report card. I also remember on CNN children 4 and 6 yearsold were smoking weed because of there corrupt uncles. The treating of kids as mini adults is one of the biggest things that need to be fought. Children should be able to enjoy childhood, without having to deal with adult situations. Your childhood only comes around once. But with the evil people desperate to sexualize kids they make sure to promote there sick agendas on kids. In the videos I posted, It talked about a satanic cult that was built below a school, they would take the kids and have them perform ritual killings of animals and they were also pedofiles. The NWO target kids because they want to corrupt them to the point that they are zombies to the system. That is why protecting kids has to be the most important thing to do on this earth. We can raise children to be truthseekers and not believe evreything there government tells them. We need to teach kids to question everything and make sure to not back down to the establishment. Children are the most important people on this world.
Peace
King, the world masses have been hoodwinked and bamboozled into giving up their funk. A movement is beginning that will lead to change. Not Obama change, but a real change. Watch the Vid and Stay tuned! I'll be posting Part 2 today.
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You don't know how important what you are doing is. We need more truthseekers to see that we have a common enemy and that we have been tricked into hating each other. It's easy to corrupt the people, when they are too busy hating and attacking each other. They use us the masses as cattle and they don't care about us. They put Fluoride in rat poison and our toothpaste and water. They posion our food and water supply and then they give genetically modified beans to the third world. They already have microchips implanted into people watch this: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7003564149168590555&hl=en
People all over need to post videos about these evil cultic elites who are looking to turn the masses into zombies. This is war.
Peace
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Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: waiting on the link to part 2....
Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
"Whats truly going on" is that Mugabe is ruining it.
I think only an idiot would not be be able to see that simple fact.
Or a "conspiracy theorist". LMAO.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: waiting on the link to part 2....
Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
You are absolutely right. The IMF and World Bank have played a major role in suppressing African growth and independence. Where these failed, the CIA and Israeli intelligence have stepped in and assisted coups.
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You don't know how important what you are doing is. We need more truthseekers to see that we have a common enemy and that we have been tricked into hating each other. It's easy to corrupt the people, when they are too busy hating and attacking each other. They use us the masses as cattle and they don't care about us. They put Fluoride in rat poison and our toothpaste and water. They posion our food and water supply and then they give genetically modified beans to the third world. They already have microchips implanted into people watch this: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7003564149168590555&hl=en
People all over need to post videos about these evil cultic elites who are looking to turn the masses into zombies. This is war.
Peace
King
Interesting to note that Fluoride was developed in Nazi Germany by Zionist scientist as a Apathy Agent. The US bankers who funded its development and the chemical company which sourced the chemical components were both headed by George Bush's Grandfather, Preston Bush.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: waiting on the link to part 2....
Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
"Whats truly going on" is that Mugabe is ruining it.
I think only an idiot would not be be able to see that simple fact.
Or a "conspiracy theorist". LMAO.
No offense, but you know nothing about Africa, or Zimbabwe. When you have some idea about Nation States, distribution of GNP and GDP, land ownership, forced nationlisation of industry, the Rhodesian Empire, the early struggle of the Zanu PF party, the British ownership and RELIANCE on the Zimbabwe economy...etc, then maybe we can have a conversation about this. You won't gain REAL knowledge about African affairs from CNN, FOX, BBC OR ALJAZEERA my friend. If I start posting statistics you'll realise you're talking ass...
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: waiting on the link to part 2....
Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
"Whats truly going on" is that Mugabe is ruining it.
I think only an idiot would not be be able to see that simple fact.
Or a "conspiracy theorist". LMAO.
''ruining what exactly''... the dellusional 'bread basket' of Africa that actually didn't provide any 'bread' for anyone of African descent, and sold produce grown on African soil at a hyperinlated price back to Africans lining the pockets of the British Empire! Go research how much of the economy the 99% of indigenous Black Zimbabwean's earned from this ''breadbasket'' before the land reforms.
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^ why do you even reply to her? she's been known for posting pictures of indian movie star homes and saying it's Mugabe's. no one takes mmmkay seriously. lol
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: waiting on the link to part 2....
Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
"Whats truly going on" is that Mugabe is ruining it.
I think only an idiot would not be be able to see that simple fact.
Or a "conspiracy theorist". LMAO.
No offense, but you know nothing about Africa, or Zimbabwe. When you have some idea about Nation States, distribution of GNP and GDP, land ownership, forced nationlisation of industry, the Rhodesian Empire, the early struggle of the Zanu PF party, the British ownership and RELIANCE on the Zimbabwe economy...etc, then maybe we can have a conversation about this. You won't gain REAL knowledge about African affairs from CNN, FOX, BBC OR ALJAZEERA my friend. If I start posting statistics you'll realise you're talking ass...
"REAL knowledge"? LMAO.
You mean like how zimbabwe is suffering from a major cholera outbreak with thousands dead? Is that a media fluke? A big joke to you right? Is that because of a "western conspiracy" or cover-up or such nonsensical ideas you and your ilk can come up with?
How about that new 100 trillion dollar note they just rolled out?
The reality is that the people in Zimbabwe are really suffering and free elections or any semblance of democracy is pretty much nonexistent. Mugabe makes sure of that.
Its dishonest, victimized people such as you that actually do the people of Zimbabwe a disservice and sadly they must suffer for it. All so you can prove your non-existent political point.
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Yep and the bad things in Zimbabwe will all go away if whites maintain the control of farms since black Africans OBVIOUSLY don't know how to put food in their own mouths without working as slaves on white owned plantations, if white control the natural resources because again blacks are TOO STUPID to be able to manage THEIR OWN resources for their own benefit except working as slave laborers in white owned companies and enterprises.....
Yeah, bring on democracy and white economic dominance. That is what blacks have been dying for for over 500 years.
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quote:Originally posted by Doug M: Yep and the bad things in Zimbabwe will all go away if whites maintain the control of farms since black Africans OBVIOUSLY don't know how to put food in their own mouths without working as slaves on white owned plantations, if white control the natural resources because again blacks are TOO STUPID to be able to manage THEIR OWN resources for their own benefit except working as slave laborers in white owned companies and enterprises.....
Yeah, bring on democracy and white economic dominance. That is what blacks have been dying for for over 500 years.
Doug, I like you as a poster, but sometimes the stuff you post is just stupid.
Men are selfish. Point blank. What is clear is that Mugabe does not care about Zimbabwe any more than your average "evil" white industrialist.
The difference, in fact, is that Mugabe see's his political power as his (only) means of economic and personal fulfillment. He does so because he is not a producer and he knows it. He is basically a thief and the job of a thief is to steal. Or "redistribute the wealth" as others call it.
His dictatorial stranglehold over Zimbabwe and its financial system brings himself and his family security. In his self-interest, he would never think to give up this stranglehold because it is personally fufilling. Much like a person does not want to lose their job.
The industrialist, the businessman, whether he is white, black or blue. Does not care for political power. He does not wish to lord over the personal affairs of others. His only motive is profit. He cannot force others to do what he wants. He cannot force otehrs to "trade" with him. He can only provide a valuable good or service.
^ Only the state (Mugabe) can forcibly bend others to its will through the power of the gun.
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The State: Mugabe (or count Dracula, whichever same thing) is effectively a vampire. He does not produce, he steals and he hoards, much like a pirate. His only source of enrichment and income is to steal that which others have produced.
The industrialist (or the white guy if you prefer): He is Zimbabwe's only source of major investment, since I don't see you or any "black guys" running to invest in Zimbabwe to build mines, farms and power plants.
He does not primarily care about the color of the inhabitants, the only color he see is green, that is, the color of money. He has come to trade, because his investments there will bring profit. He is the producer but he cannot Force" others to enter into a trade with him unless he has the backing for the state (Mugabe). Since the businessman's only force is the "Force" of his dollars.
Both men are clearly driven by self-interest, but both men have entirely different ways of acting on it and acquiring wealth.
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Mugabe is selfish indeed. However, whites are MORE selfish. They aren't interested in progress for blacks in Africa, they just want to CONTROL the wealth and convince blacks that they are better off working for a WHITE master as opposed to owning THEIR OWN resources and working for themselves and their own best interests. Mugabe and all of this political drama is ALL orchestrated by the white elite as Mugabe has been a white puppet SINCE INDEPENDENCE. His so called adversary is nothing but another white puppet and mouthpiece for white farmers and british industrialists. This has NOTHING to do with TRUE freedom for blacks and everything to do with white economic dominance in Southern Africa which is a DIRECT continuation of the policies and agendas set forth by the racist industrialists like Cecil Rhodes and his British counterparts.
This SAME pattern is all over Africa, with whites financing BOTH sides of a struggle, which means they ALWAYS win, with the only loosers being the black Africans. The conflict with the ANC is the same thing. How come after independence, what seems like a straight forward idea, blacks controlling their own land and resources after hundreds of years of racist oppression, becomes so complex? It isn't complex. That is THE ONLY WAY for black Africans to move ahead and become TRULY independent. But since MOST independence agreements came with STRINGS attached and allowed whites to KEEP most of the land and wealth they stole, nothing has changed except one white financed crook, warlord, chief or general being ushered in after another, fighting fake wars over ridiculous issues while whites move in behind the soldiers and snap up all the land, free of any claims of African ownership.
That sort of propaganda nonsense about blacks being responsible for their own conditions only allows blacks to feel COMFORTABLE with the fact that out of ALL the people on the planet, they are the only ones that DON'T CONTROL ANY PART of any major economic interests in the world today. While every other groups touts freedom as the ability to own land, the ability to farm and the ability to start and own businesses, blacks world wide are still being told that freedom is allowing ALL your resources to be controlled by SOMEBODY ELSE and all your businesses and corporations to be controlled BY SOMEONE ELSE and that all your well being should COME FROM WORKING FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: waiting on the link to part 2....
Part one was great. I have posted the link on another forum, hoping that people will understand what's truly going on in Zimbabwe is economic assassination.
"Whats truly going on" is that Mugabe is ruining it.
I think only an idiot would not be be able to see that simple fact.
Or a "conspiracy theorist". LMAO.
No offense, but you know nothing about Africa, or Zimbabwe. When you have some idea about Nation States, distribution of GNP and GDP, land ownership, forced nationlisation of industry, the Rhodesian Empire, the early struggle of the Zanu PF party, the British ownership and RELIANCE on the Zimbabwe economy...etc, then maybe we can have a conversation about this. You won't gain REAL knowledge about African affairs from CNN, FOX, BBC OR ALJAZEERA my friend. If I start posting statistics you'll realise you're talking ass...
"REAL knowledge"? LMAO.
You mean like how zimbabwe is suffering from a major cholera outbreak with thousands dead? Is that a media fluke? A big joke to you right? Is that because of a "western conspiracy" or cover-up or such nonsensical ideas you and your ilk can come up with?
How about that new 100 trillion dollar note they just rolled out?
The reality is that the people in Zimbabwe are really suffering and free elections or any semblance of democracy is pretty much nonexistent. Mugabe makes sure of that.
Its dishonest, victimized people such as you that actually do the people of Zimbabwe a disservice and sadly they must suffer for it. All so you can prove your non-existent political point.
Go tell that to your boyfriend Akoben (AssOpen).
kthnxbye
Thanks for your tabloid outburst. Was that your attempt at knowledge of just a poor rescripting of CNN coverage of the Zimbabwe crisis. I am an African, you are (at best) a concerned Westerner with NO knowledge of Africa. I would advise you not to continue in your lame attempt to educate me in matters of African concern. To address your points (for want of a better word)...
//You mean like how zimbabwe is suffering from a major cholera outbreak with thousands dead?//
1st of all, cholera outbreaks are a natural occurance (unfortunately) in Africa. In fact in the past 2 years,there have been 4 worse cholera outbreaks on the continent, that I'm sure you know NOTHING about. Dont pretend you do. Because of WESTERN exploitation of African resources, people and land, most African nations dont have the basic instruments to avoid such outbreaks. Cholera outbreaks have NOTHING to do with bad leadership, once there is a break out, not much can be done apart from damage limitation. Never in African history has a leader been blamed for a Cholera outbreak. And how does the world respond, tut tut, shakes head and smiles that Mugabe is getting his comeuppance... Thats exactly why I laught at your contribution.
//A big joke to you right? Is that because of a "western conspiracy" or cover-up or such nonsensical ideas you and your ilk can come up with?//
Apologies for my earlier post, did you get the impression my LMAO was at the Zimbabweans situation. My grave error. My LMAO was aimed at your pathetic regurgitation of the usual tripe and your attempt to sound knowledgable about a situation you know NOTHING about. I was laughing at you.
//How about that new 100 trillion dollar note they just rolled out?//
Obviously, you dont have any knowledge or qualifications in economics. No amount of mismanagement can engineer inflation of this kind. This is called manufactured economic repression, and it is being lead by the IMF, the World Bank, and the International Community who are protecting Western interests. This would happen to ANY African nation whom the West decided that they would completely impede export/import and call up immediate debts with interest without warning. Even post war Germany did not recieve such harsh sanctions. Do some reading. Any idiot can point at the Zim situation and say look at this, look at that, but any educated person can trace a line back to the cause of inflation, its not hard. Mugabe has been in power for decades and Zim had a superbly stable economy... BEFORE THE LAND REFORMS, then whites took action. Full stop. The fact that some IDIOTS blame this on the corrupt acts of imaginary Zanu officials crashing the economy to fund their Bentleys is a laughable joke.
//The reality is that the people in Zimbabwe are really suffering and free elections or any semblance of democracy is pretty much nonexistent. Mugabe makes sure of that.//
Another false truth, no doubt fed by lazy armchair knowledge. Zim's are suffering under international sanctions, not because Mugabe, but the West is starving Zimbabweans households and businesses by not allowing them to trade. As far as 'free and fair' elections go, were you aware that Tsvangarais MDC hold the majority of the seats in the Zimbabweans parliament? How would they gain these but through fair elections??? Mugabe did not stop Tsvangarai, nor could he. Ever heard of the ZEC, the commitee that oversees the Zimbabweans electoral process, they are made up from an even spread of MDC and Zanu members and they declared the elections fair, they also ENSURED that MDC gained the seats that they had won. The only reason we dont have an fairly elected leader of Zimbabwe is becasue (under Western advice) Tsvangarai pulled out, because the West want the excuse to engineer a coup or a civil war. Thats why Tsvangarai continues to stall the power sharing agreement, the West want Mugabe out. Problem is, people like YOU forget, that even in the by elections, nearly half of Zimbabweans VOTED for Mugabe. He has support on the ground, and lots of legitimate supporters that the white owned BBC and Fox will NEVER report on.
//Its dishonest, victimized people such as you that actually do the people of Zimbabwe a disservice and sadly they must suffer for it. All so you can prove your non-existent political point.//
You really dont have a point, just weak western rhetoric and regurgitation of NO knowledge nonsense. How about some of those stats I asked you for, if you want, we can raise this debate from an emotional to an intellectual level. Problem is, you dont have ANYTHING beyond emotion and fake Western concern. You dont know the figures, the History the facts... in fact, you probably didn't know Zim existed before Mugabe started kicking whites off their farms. As far as your silly 'boyfriend' jibe, please yourself. It proves my premise that you have nothing to offer this debate but emotions. Come back with some statistics to prove me wrong, or some real evidence that Zimbabwe's current condition has NOT been manufactured by the West. The burden of evidence is now on you, because I've given you the information that you were obviously lacking.
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The State: Mugabe (or count Dracula, whichever same thing) is effectively a vampire. He does not produce, he steals and he hoards, much like a pirate. His only source of enrichment and income is to steal that which others have produced.
The industrialist (or the white guy if you prefer): He is Zimbabwe's only source of major investment, since I don't see you or any "black guys" running to invest in Zimbabwe to build mines, farms and power plants.
He does not primarily care about the color of the inhabitants, the only color he see is green, that is, the color of money. He has come to trade, because his investments there will bring profit. He is the producer but he cannot Force" others to enter into a trade with him unless he has the backing for the state (Mugabe). Since the businessman's only force is the "Force" of his dollars.
Both men are clearly driven by self-interest, but both men have entirely different ways of acting on it and acquiring wealth.
I'm sorry this has to be the most IDIOTIC summary of the Zimbabwean situation I have EVER laid eyes upon!!! Mugabe's doing it for money!! Your don't even believe that, but you want to because it appeases your conscience and makes you feel better about your 'kind'.
//The State: Mugabe (or count Dracula, whichever same thing) is effectively a vampire. He does not produce, he steals and he hoards, much like a pirate. His only source of enrichment and income is to steal that which others have produced. //
In that case, lets all stop paying tax! Get real. ALL MP's rely on the state for sustination. duh!
//The industrialist (or the white guy if you prefer): He is Zimbabwe's only source of major investment, since I don't see you or any "black guys" running to invest in Zimbabwe to build mines, farms and power plants.//
And why, pray tell, do Western organisations hold a monopoly on the capital? How did they build their capital? Honest trade, or a corrupt system of 'free trade' that ensures the increasing wealth of the nations that alread hold the capital? Fact is, Western organisations are not and have NEVER invested in Zimbabwe, they own it! Britains economy has taken a massive hit since the overturn of the Zimbabwean agriculture sector, you wont learn that on the news. They bank with UK banks and virtually bleed the economy of wealth, ensuring that Zimbabweans never play more than a labour intensive role. They are virtual slaves in their own nations. What is needed in Zim is regulation and centralisation of key infrastructures and farming/mining sectors to ensure affordability, and NOT privatisation and the virtual external ownership of the nation by Western organisations. Western 'investment' does nothing but perpetuate poverty. If your precious west cared so much, they would have set up programs for the redistribution and training of farms workers to hand back the land to the indigenous. FACT is that less than 3% of land was distributed back to indigenous Zimbabwean peoples since the fall of the Rhodesian empire.
If Mugabe was doing this for money (as you suggest) then what of the undivided support he recieved from Britain before the land reforms! He could have (and probably did) line his pockets exponentially prior to the land reforms. He would have earned more by playing ball with the west, they would have given him billions to sustain the status quo... that is FACT. This is about nothing more than the West seeking to crush and make an example of any potential African future uprisings. Without the exploitation of the poor majority of Africans, the profitability of the West becomes considerably weak.
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I saw once or twice the Zeitgeist movies, and I can't believe how people fell the trap, namely pure 100% Chomskyan propaganda. Just look at how they define the Iraq War.
It is just a waste of time, guys.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmer Menes: I'm sorry this has to be the most IDIOTIC summary of the Zimbabwean situation I have EVER laid eyes upon!!! Mugabe's doing it for money!! Your don't even believe that, but you want to because it appeases your conscience and makes you feel better about your 'kind'.
//The State: Mugabe (or count Dracula, whichever same thing) is effectively a vampire. He does not produce, he steals and he hoards, much like a pirate. His only source of enrichment and income is to steal that which others have produced. //
In that case, lets all stop paying tax! Get real. ALL MP's rely on the state for sustination. duh!
//The industrialist (or the white guy if you prefer): He is Zimbabwe's only source of major investment, since I don't see you or any "black guys" running to invest in Zimbabwe to build mines, farms and power plants.//
And why, pray tell, do Western organisations hold a monopoly on the capital? How did they build their capital? Honest trade, or a corrupt system of 'free trade' that ensures the increasing wealth of the nations that alread hold the capital? Fact is, Western organisations are not and have NEVER invested in Zimbabwe, they own it! Britains economy has taken a massive hit since the overturn of the Zimbabwean agriculture sector, you wont learn that on the news. They bank with UK banks and virtually bleed the economy of wealth, ensuring that Zimbabweans never play more than a labour intensive role. They are virtual slaves in their own nations. What is needed in Zim is regulation and centralisation of key infrastructures and farming/mining sectors to ensure affordability, and NOT privatisation and the virtual external ownership of the nation by Western organisations. Western 'investment' does nothing but perpetuate poverty. If your precious west cared so much, they would have set up programs for the redistribution and training of farms workers to hand back the land to the indigenous. FACT is that less than 3% of land was distributed back to indigenous Zimbabwean peoples since the fall of the Rhodesian empire.
If Mugabe was doing this for money (as you suggest) then what of the undivided support he recieved from Britain before the land reforms! He could have (and probably did) line his pockets exponentially prior to the land reforms. He would have earned more by playing ball with the west, they would have given him billions to sustain the status quo... that is FACT. This is about nothing more than the West seeking to crush and make an example of any potential African future uprisings. Without the exploitation of the poor majority of Africans, the profitability of the West becomes considerably weak.
^ Good points. Continue to beat down the trolls NM.
quote:Originally posted by Arwa: I saw once or twice the Zeitgeist movies, and I can't believe how people fell the trap, namely pure 100% Chomskyan propaganda. Just look at how they define the Iraq War.
It is just a waste of time, guys.
You didn't like the movie? Saddam had an estimated 2 million barrels of oil surplus, that simply disappeared during the war. Next thing you know, Gas is $4 a gallon in the US. When Bush's henchmen sold that Oil, suddenly Gas prices go back down to under $2. An estimated $8B just disappeared during the Iraq war with absolutely no accountability of where it went.
Regarding the movie, I agree that Zionists and whites have led (are leading) mankind into an entropic system that dead ends in their zeal for power.
There is no doubt the economic, political, and covert tactics defined in the movie are and have been deployed in Zimbabwe, and other countries in Africa.
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^ I think it's the whole "War for Oil" versus "War for Israel" debate. I dont think he went to war for oil. The oil lobby wasn't for the war anyway they just wanted sancions lifted so they could do business in peace/stability. The Us and the west didn't need a war to profit from Iraqi oil surplus. Saddam would have to sell it or drink it.
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I think the movie would say they went to war to make profits. The military industrial complex is PROFITING off of the War on Terror. That is where most of the billions in money spent in the last 5 years has gone, not to the military and not to weapons systems. The war on terror is a PERFECT way to sink money into the military industrial complex because it does not require MASSIVE amounts of men and equipment, just MASSIVE propaganda to support and justify it.
Not only are the profits from this war coming from the government money going to private companies, it is also coming from the fact that the war creates higher prices for oil and this is why Exxon and the other major oil companies have had RECORD profits over the last 3 years or so.
Notice prices went down right before Pres. Obama got elected, now with the Israeli crisis in Gaza they are going back up.
The system NEEDS crisis, it cannot let people become stable and prosperous because that does not create profits.
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