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and believe me this racism conference is nothing. There will be more blames and whitewash to come in his presidency, and the last standing man will be him and there will never be anyone else to take the ****.
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Who is the most myopic, ignorant, and just plain stupid. A southern conservative or a wannabe radical nigger.
Let’s test their positions.
Conservative Your daughter is pregnant and the boy doesn’t even have a job. Solution: Tax cuts and smaller government.
Your Wife is cheating on you with your best friend. Solution: Tax cuts and smaller government.
The reverend is getting it on with YOUR boyfriend. Solution: Tax cuts and smaller government.
Your country’s economy is going down the toilet. Solution: Tax cuts and smaller government.
Wannabe Radical Nigger
Your daughter is pregnant and the boy doesn’t even have a job. Solution: End Racism.
Your Wife is cheating on you with your best friend. Solution: End Racism.
The reverend is getting it on with YOUR boyfriend. Solution: End Racism.
Your country’s economy is going down the toilet. Solution: End Racism.
For those that can still think, the reason for pulling out of the UN Conference on Racism, is because the Arabs have used this venue as a forum for attacking Israel. Their claim is that Zionism equates to racism. For those that don’t know, the Zionist were, and continue to be, financed by Jews in the United States. Obama correctly has no interest in starting a fight with the very powerful Jews in the U.S. over such a trivial and bogus issue.
Obama correctly realizes that Blacks have no horse in this race. The real situation; is that you have one set of Turks (the Arabs), fighting another set of Turks (the Khazar Jews), over land that neither of them has a legitimate ancient claim to, (they are both Turks – not Canaanites and not Hebrews). Additionally, since BOTH of them were instrumental in the slave trade, and BOTH of them did, and continue to engage in racism against Blacks – fuch-em both.
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^ who said anything about ending racism unless you are directing your comment to Mr. Meninarmer? The issue is about how Obama will get blamed everything on American empire's fall and the hypocrisy of people like Eric Holder, the U.S. Attorney General and rest of Obamites.
BTW, let's see how many excuses you (and to Obamites crowds) will find next time Obama will make a fool of himself.
Just don't harm the messenger, Mike.
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Arwa, Mikey has to rationalise his disappointment at the fact that there will be no change coming from the white house. Its called wilful and dedicated ignorance. In the coming months lots of Obama-maniacs will display these symptoms and reality becomes substituted.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Obama correctly realizes that Blacks have no horse in this race. The real situation; is that you have one set of Turks (the Arabs), fighting another set of Turks (the Khazar Jews), over land that neither of them has a legitimate ancient claim to, (they are both Turks – not Canaanites and not Hebrews). Additionally, since BOTH of them were instrumental in the slave trade, and BOTH of them did, and continue to engage in racism against Blacks – fuch-em both.
Fine, forget the Sand Niggers,I don't like them anyway. But allow me on behave these ill-mannered people to say that I am very sorry that they ruin your party and singing the wrong tone. Ok, it is too much to ask Mike to remove your 700+ military bases from our countries and please stop to bomb us with DU, and I'll promise, we will leave you alone and will try not to trouble your lovely celebration for your first Black President.
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I am sure next time a war emerge somewhere in West Africa or the blight of the Delits in India, Haiti, Mike will blame it the Arabs.
Oh damn, they are already there: "I lived in Mali during 2004, and there were US special forces in the Sahara of Mali, Niger, and Mauritania. Reports have shown that US special forces have attacked local people in those areas, in an attempt to 'act' as islamic fundamentalists who need to be destroyed. We hear oh so little about those areas, their people, their oil resources and what on earth the Americans are doing there."
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Arwa - Because of Obama; we won't need your oil for much longer. After that, we will leave you alone. We do respect you, and your right to self determination. So when the odd civil war or genocide crops up, we will send aid and best wishes.
Don't look now, but you may want to be nice to us for a little while longer > Guinea-Bissau
BTW - I only do that with western women.
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quote:Originally posted by akoben: What did Malcom X say about the "we" syndrome in the house Negro? lol
You complain against the Y-Tee and his racist scholarship yet you identify with them so much. Mike you are confused.
Not at all akoben, it's just that I know what side of my bread gets the butter, and where that butter comes from.
It seems that you have yet to figure that out, or perhaps you are just of a different mindset.
The true test will come when ICE comes to deport your big talking Jamaican ass. If you cry and plead like most do, then I will find it very hard to believe you. However, if you stand tall, and say "ras bloodclot" then proudly get on the plane. I will have eternal respect for you; of course, if you sneak back in, all bets are off.
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Thanks Arwa Ms. McKenney is my girl! She's a fighter and I love that in a woman.
Obama's decision merely confirms he is a stooge for Israel. Yet another, Clarence Thomas.
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quote:Originally posted by akoben: What did Malcom X say about the "we" syndrome in the house Negro? lol
You complain against the Y-Tee and his racist scholarship yet you identify with them so much. Mike you are confused.
Not at all akoben, it's just that I know what side of my bread gets the butter, and where that butter comes from.
It seems that you have yet to figure that out, or perhaps you are just of a different mindset.
The true test will come when ICE comes to deport your big talking Jamaican ass. If you cry and plead like most do, then I will find it very hard to believe you. However, if you stand tall, and say "ras bloodclot" then proudly get on the plane. I will have eternal respect for you; of course, if you sneak back in, all bets are off.
lol
Projecting again are we? Your ignorance of my situation and of world affairs is as your cut and paste pseudo scholarship. lol
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I call it like I see it. Like Clarence Thomas, Barack Obama is taking orders from Israel.
As I said much earlier, Obama is no Malcolm X, and not even a Martin Luther King in spite of his making extensive usage of both of their sound bites.
Obama is a;
(1) Career Politician (2) A Lawyer (3) A stooge (4) Protector of White/Jew Status Quo
LOL, Holder said the nation was a nation of cowards. If Obama isn't attending the conference, that does include him in the list.
Obama & Obamamaniacs protecting their massa. White haired Thomas to left holding Little Massa, Obama on left carrying Massa's sword. As they say in Asia, they have no honor. Posts: 3595 | From: Moved To Mars. Waiting with shotgun | Registered: Dec 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Arwa: When Eric Holder, the new U.S. Attorney General called the nation to account for its historic reluctance to honestly talk about race and racism, its manifestations and consequences, he could have been talking about his boss the president. By withdrawing from the UN Conference on Racism he is leading backwards, in the direction of Clinton and Bush rather than forward into the 21st century. The fact that the President of Change wan't bring himself -- or us --- to an honest discussion about race says a lot for his willingness to lead on the subject.
Wow. I just lost a lot of respect for the man. I was hoping a President of color would do more to heal our racial wounds, but instead he's chickening out. It is as if he cares more about his political standing with conservative whites than bringing about change.
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meninarmer - You country bumpkin racist (urban myself), I’m calling you out. In 1862 Lincoln called in Booker T. and the boys, and offered them funding to found a black republic in Panama. They said NO. What’s your feeling?
BTW - At the end of the war, there were 200,000 Black troops under arms.
Seems like they could have taken, pretty much whatever they wanted! What say you?
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Its no secret Booker T supported separatism more so than emigration. So what's your point other than your knowledge of black history is as sorded as your cut and paste pseudo scholarship.
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^ Booker T. was committed to Integration. However, he advocated blacks building their own infrastructure within the US by acquiring basic skill set to allow productivity.
Remember, John Brown asked Frederick Douglas to help him amass an army of black slaves to overturn the union and Douglas and other black leaders, especially the church leaders declined.
As for being a country boy, I grew up in the same hood as this black man.
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^ You have to remember, this was very shortly after slavery ended and the slaves found themselves locked out of the jobs they had previously performed for free. Rather then pay them fr their services, whites instead hired whites to perform these jobs and offered freed slaves the option of continuing to work for free or hit the road. The Union armies usually had thousands of freed slaves walking behind them with no place to go.
Washington's schools existed from funding from wealthy whites & Jews, and government appropriations. His motto was, educate former slaves so that they might become, productive members of (US) society. Where Washington and DuBois differed was, integration versus melding in through labor.
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BTW - At the end of the war, there were 200,000 Black troops under arms.
Seems like they could have taken, pretty much whatever they wanted! What say you?
They could declare their own State like Haiti or part of Brazil and other parts of Americas,but that is the mystery why it did not succeed consider when they had their victory in their own hands and served on silver plate.
Maybe it was not a mystery after all but a Judas among them.
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Again, it is no secret that he was financed by whites, Jews included. But as an advocate for separate development even in America this does not make him a committed integrationist as was DuBois and company. Whether he was forced into that position because of the prevailing circumstances does not take away from this fact. The NOI and even post-NOI Malcolm X did not advocate emigration per say but separate development in America. Like Booker T, I don't think it would be accurate to say they were "committed to integration". That's all I'm saying.
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Famous Booker T. Washington quote regarding integration: "In all things purely social we can be as separate as the fingers, yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress."
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quote:Originally posted by akoben: Again, it is no secret that he was financed by whites, Jews included. But as an advocate for separate development even in America this does not make him a committed integrationist as was DuBois and company. Whether he was forced into that position because of the prevailing circumstances does not take away from this fact. The NOI and even post-NOI Malcolm X did not advocate emigration per say but separate development in America. Like Booker T, I don't think it would be accurate to say they were "committed to integration". That's all I'm saying.
I believe during the era, the 40 acres was still considered to be a viable option and Washington believed this also. Therefore, Washington, and other blacks, may have dreamed of having their own state which was a part of teh larger US government. In that reality, it would not have reflected DuBois's or King form of holding hands with whites and turning the other cheek, but a self sustaining black nation within a nation. A compromise between separation and integration.
However, I am influenced by one chapter in the Washington papers where he described the ordeal of a lone renegade Native American who would come by the school to speak with Washington. Washington insisted that this Native American not come dressed in his Native garbs, because it made him look primitive and uneducated. The Native resisted, but in time came back, broken, wearing a suit. Washington praised him and stated, now you look like a civilized man. There is no doubt there exists many contradictions in early black American thought and actions.
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From your post about Washington I take it that you are trying to say, That Washington was still influenced by the people he was trying to oppose. The mentality was still a european mindset. In that more emphasis was placed on what you wear and the clothes you wear had to be european looking.
Peace
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quote:Originally posted by meninarmer: However, I am influenced by one chapter in the Washington papers where he described the ordeal of a lone renegade Native American who would come by the school to speak with Washington. Washington insisted that this Native American not come dressed in his Native garbs, because it made him look primitive and uneducated. The Native resisted, but in time came back, broken, wearing a suit. Washington praised him and stated, now you look like a civilized man.There is no doubt there exists many contradictions in early black American thought and actions.
You can find aspects of Garvey's thought that you would think troubling also. For instance Garvey spoke about uplifting the "backward tribes" of Africa and converting them to Christianity. On the other hand he had many of those "primitive" African artefact in his house and even supported the white modernist artist Nancy Cundard. Like Booker T, I think he was complex individual.
Their remarks should be understood in a context. Both Booker T and Garvey shared the views of most Diaspora blacks of the time. They saw modernity along lines of industrialisation etc. This was not much different from alot of nationalist leaders around the world who were also "anti-traditionalist". E.g. Meji Japan, Sun Yat-sen, even communist Mao. This doesn't make them any less Asian.
quote:That Washington was still influenced by the people he was trying to oppose.
Washington did not try to "oppose" whites. In fact he is known in history as an "accommodationist".
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From your post about Washington I take it that you are trying to say, That Washington was still influenced by the people he was trying to oppose. The mentality was still a european mindset. In that more emphasis was placed on what you wear and the clothes you wear had to be european looking.
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There was never anything radical about Booker T. He was as mainstream as Martin Luther King. Neither supported any radical opposition to status quo, and both took their marching orders from the powers that were of the time. Remember, it was with full cooperation that the university conducted the Tuskegee experiments. The trials could not had occurred had it not been with the full cooperation and support of the school. This was the caliber of honor-less/treacherous black professionals the institute cranked out.
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Surely you're not implicating Washington in the Tuskegee experiments?
And actually radicalism is relative as black self determination is a radical political view in todays integrationist, Democratic Party-induced socialist mentality among the civil rights leadership today.
quote:Originally posted by meninarmer: However, I am influenced by one chapter in the Washington papers where he described the ordeal of a lone renegade Native American who would come by the school to speak with Washington. Washington insisted that this Native American not come dressed in his Native garbs, because it made him look primitive and uneducated. The Native resisted, but in time came back, broken, wearing a suit. Washington praised him and stated, now you look like a civilized man.There is no doubt there exists many contradictions in early black American thought and actions.
You can find aspects of Garvey's thought that you would think troubling also. For instance Garvey spoke about uplifting the "backward tribes" of Africa and converting them to Christianity. On the other hand he had many of those "primitive" African artefact in his house and even supported the white modernist artist Nancy Cundard. Like Booker T, I think he was complex individual.
Their remarks should be understood in a context. Both Booker T and Garvey shared the views of most Diaspora blacks of the time. They saw modernity along lines of industrialisation etc. This was not much different from alot of nationalist leaders around the world who were also "anti-traditionalist". E.g. Meji Japan, Sun Yat-sen, even communist Mao. This doesn't make them any less Asian.
Yes, I noticed this conflict in Garvey also, but as you point out, it was a complex situation and nobody can be perfect in all things. In some respects Garvey was absolutely correct. Most of the kings of Africa at the time were very much impotent and dominated by self interest. However, had Garvey been successful in his attempt to carry millions back to Africa, I don't doubt those kings would have aggressively opposed Garvey and his followers in their attempt to seat Garvey as, King of all Africa. Europe and the US would have instigated and supported these kings to reduce Garvey as they have done in Liberia and Haiti. It would have been very interesting to have observed how that scenario would have played out.
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I see that I have a lot to learn. Garvey and Washington who I see as Africans that wanted more respect and Good for there people, were actually kind of Pawns of the system of that time?
I am against the system we have now, but I see that we have a long way to go into changing the system.
What kind of solutions do you think can help benefit all the ethnicities in America? Equality is hard, but in the end it is worthwhile.
Peace
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: For those that can still think, the reason for pulling out of the UN Conference on Racism, is because the Arabs have used this venue as a forum for attacking Israel. Their claim is that Zionism equates to racism. For those that don’t know, the Zionist were, and continue to be, financed by Jews in the United States. Obama correctly has no interest in starting a fight with the very powerful Jews in the U.S. over such a trivial and bogus issue.
Obama correctly realizes that Blacks have no horse in this race. The real situation; is that you have one set of Turks (the Arabs), fighting another set of Turks (the Khazar Jews), over land that neither of them has a legitimate ancient claim to, (they are both Turks – not Canaanites and not Hebrews). Additionally, since BOTH of them were instrumental in the slave trade, and BOTH of them did, and continue to engage in racism against Blacks – fuch-em both.
I Emphasize:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Additionally, since BOTH of them were instrumental in the slave trade, and BOTH of them did, and continue to engage in racism against Blacks – fuch-em both.
Mike111, you're speaking my language.
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^ KING, with every complex decision regarding a solution to a problem, there are a set of equally complex positive/negative trade-offs associated with each decision.
This trade-off analysis is often what is missing in a standard high school/college level education, and why today we see the results of terrible decision making in effect throughout the world.
As I said before, it is not possible to paint a masterpiece over a filthy canvas. The canvas must first be cleaned of all greasy, filthy debris before applying the paint. Black people, American & African must be personally, and collectively responsible for the decisions they make. Whites & Jews aren't nearly as diverse as blacks. When they make individual decisions they need not perform as much collective impact analysis as Blacks, yet still, they do.
Consider the "educated" black doctors, scientists, and nurses who performed the actual testing on the Tuskegee subjects cared only for personal gain without regard for the ramifications on the whole. This type of decision making is still alive and well at Howard University today (2009) where "educated" black doctors and scientists are subjecting black subjects to DNA testing in support of the creation of DoD funded ethnics bio-weapons designed to effect only people of color.
Likewise, Obama's decision above, is not being made in respect to what is best for the collective of American/African Blacks.
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quote:I see that I have a lot to learn. Garvey and Washington who I see as Africans that wanted more respect and Good for there people, were actually kind of Pawns of the system of that time?
Child why don't you read up on them for yourself instead of reading rubbish misinterpretations into what others write? Start here.Posts: 4165 | From: jamaica | Registered: May 2008
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I just finished reading the Letter written by his son who was against the biased documentary on Garveys life. Was very interesting. Garvey was a man who I see was deep and had a Dream of puting Africans as Equals to Europeans.
Why do you go the route of Insults when you have Knowledge that could teach other truthseekers the truth? Your obsession with Jews and the wrongs of what the Jews did is holding you back from being a truthseeker that All people can learn from.
Free your mind from the hatred of Jews and recognize we need all people of all ethnic backgrounds working together for the greater good.
Peace
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I just finished reading the Letter written by his son who was against the biased documentary on Garveys life. Was very interesting. Garvey was a man who I see was deep and had a Dream of puting Africans as Equals to Europeans.
Why do you go the route of Insults when you have Knowledge that could teach other truthseekers the truth? Your obsession with Jews and the wrongs of what the Jews did is holding you back from being a truthseeker that All people can learn from.
Free your mind from the hatred of Jews and recognize we need all people of all ethnic backgrounds working together for the greater good.
Peace
I feel so sorry for you.
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^ Jesus Christ you must have serious self esteem issues! Why do you care? Damn give it fucking rest!
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^ you must be the only one from Jones town to survive eh King? Damn you are weird. lol
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