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We know that Rome like Greece, was born from a previous Black Civilization – in Rome’s case, the Etruscans. But what was the nature of Rome’s society after the absorption of the Etruscans, Gaul’s and others? Have we been misinformed about Rome? Was it a mixed race State and society as shown here...
What about the Rulers?
The term Tetrarchy (Greek: "leadership of four [people]") describes any system of government where power is divided among four individuals, but usually refers to the tetrarchy instituted by Roman Emperor Diocletian in 293 A.D. marking the end of the Crisis of the Third Century and the recovery of the Roman Empire. This Tetrarchy lasted until c.313 A.D.
The Tetrarchs (pictured), a sculpture sacked from a Byzantine palace in 1204 A.D. Treasury of St. Marks, Venice.
The Tetrarchs pictured: To the left, the two Augusti (co-emperors Diocletian & Maximian), to the right the two Caesars (deputy emperors - Constantius Chlorus & Galerius – Note Galerius!
It is said that the Tetrarchs appeared identical in all official portraits. But as seen here they are not. Galerius appears to be a Black man).
Emperor Valerian
Was Valerian (below) a Black or mixed race man?
Roman emperor Valerian I (left, kneeling) begs for his life after being captured by Persian Shah Shapur I (mounted) at the Battle of Edessa 259 A.D.
{Valerian was married to Mariniana, a woman possibly of senatorial rank and daughter of Egnatius Victor Marinianus. Inscriptions on coins connect him with Falerii in Etruria – we know the Etruscans were Black.}
From: THE NATIONAL BLACK CATHOLIC CONGRESS
Reflections on the African Popes
According to the Liber Pontificalis, three popes-Pope St Victor I (ca186-198), Pope St Miltiades (311-14), and Pope St Gelasius (492-496)-were Africans. The Liber Pontificalis is composed of a series of biographical entries, which record the dates and important facts for each pope. It is the oldest and most detailed chronicle dating from the Early Church. The Liber Pontificalis is dated from the sixth century. The record of names begins with St Peter. As the work progressed the entries became longer and more detailed. The Liber Pontificalis continued to be written until 1431.1
The African popes in question are said to have come from the North African area that is present-day Algeria, Mauretania, Numidia, and Tunisia. Historians name this area the maghreb. Today it is mostly Muslim. The indigenous people of North Africa are Berbers, brown skinned as among the Tuaregs and Algerians. By the time of Pope Victor I, the Roman aristocracy had large land holdings on the Mediterranean coast. Carthage was the center.2 The language was Latin. The Berbers lived in the rural areas and the larger towns. Carthage was the primacy. Small scattered dioceses in the rural areas. The indigenous population, the Berbers, gradually accepted Christianity, but the details of evangelization are unclear.
St. Victor
Most historians today are of the opinion that Victor was a North African. He was the first Latin-speaking pope. He had to be persuaded to permit the Asian Churches of Syria to continue celebrating Easter on the 14th day of Nisan. Victor had desired to force the Asian churches to accept the Roman method of calculating the celebration of Easter, that is the first full moon on the Sunday after the vernal equinox. Contemporary with Victor I was Tertullian, the North African writer, who reworked Latin for expressing second-century theology. Just after the death of Victor I, St Perpetua and St Felicity underwent their martyrdom in Carthage (Perpetua was from the landowner class; Felicity the slave). The Scillian martyrs, first African martyrs put to death in Carthage just prior to the pontificate of Victor, with St Cyprian, the great bishop and martyr of Carthage martyred in 258 half a century after Victor. As one historian writes, it was "remarkable… that Latin should have won recognition as the language of African Christianity from the outset, while the Roman church was still using Greek."3 Although martyrdom was the great seal of African Christianity, most historians have concluded that Victor I was not martyred in Rome.
St Miltiades
St Miltiades (311-14) is the second pope identified as an African. The Liber Pontificalis names him as born in Africa. More recent scholars consider that Miltiades was probably from an African family in Rome. In fact, Miltiades was pope in Rome at the time of the victorious battle of the Milvian Bridge when Constantine the Great defeated and killed Maxentius. With this victory, Constantine opened the way to the end of persecution of Christians. Miltiades is not recorded as making any intervention in drawing up the Edict of Milan that recognized the freedom of religion for all peoples. When the Donatists in North Africa had recourse against the Catholic Church, Constantine asked Miltiades to listen to their complaints. At this time the opposition in North Africa are called Donatists. They are the poor and the peasants. They make up the opposition to the well-to-do landholders. At present there is much study of the Donatists. These people are Berbers not Romans. Miltiades called a synod of bishops to examine the case. Historians have considered that Miltiades, seemingly an African, was chosen precisely because he had connection with the Church in North Africa.
More recent historical studies consider that the question of Donatism in North Africa are not only doctrinal but also sociological, economic, and political factors. The schism continued after the death of Miltiades.
The Donatists and Catholics
An important conflict of the fourth century was the doctrinal dispute between the Donatists and the Catholics; this created the most significant division in the western church until the sixteenth century and the advent of Protestantism.
{The church prospered from 261 to 303 A.D, but the empire suffered external attack, internal sedition, and rampant inflation. In February 303 A.D, the worst of all persecutions erupted under the co-emperors Diocletian and Galerius. The persecutions ended and peace was reached with the ascension of Emperor Constantine.}
Donatus was a bishop in North Africa during the persecutions of Diocletian; unlike the rest of the Empire, the persecutions in North Africa were relatively mild, as the governor only demanded that Christians hand over written copies of the Christian scriptures as a gesture of repudiating their faith. He did not really interfere with Christianity in other ways.
Many Christians complied with the law. However, after the persecutions ended, those Christians that had not given up their scriptures, called the others traitors, and would not allow them back into the church - among these "traitors" were some priests. Donatus argued that the sacraments were rendered invalid, if they were administered by these corrupt priests.
The North African Donatists were fiercely opposed by the western church and energetically opposed by Augustine, who was bishop of Hippo in North Africa.
In April of 313 A.D, the Donatists presented to Constantine their grievance against Caecilian, the bishop of Carthage - held to have become implicated in apostasy (Abandonment of one's religious faith) by receiving consecration as bishop from Felix of Aptunga, an apostate (One who HAS abandoned one's religious faith ). Constantine convened a synod of bishops to hear the complaint; the synod met in Rome's Lateran Council, and is known as the Synod of Rome. When the synod ruled in favor of Caecilian, the Donatists appealed to Constantine again. In response to the appeal Constantine convened a larger council of thirty-three bishops, who met at Arles in southern Gaul on 1 August 314 A.D, This council too, ruled against the Donatists, and again they refused to submit. Constantine attempted, unsuccessfully, to suppress them.
The Donatists however, hung on as a secret church until the Muslims invaded North Africa in the late 600's A.D. The reason Donatism is important though, is that the movement was revived in the twelfth century in Europe, as the Catholic clergy had become desperately corrupt. A new, popular movement revived Donatism and not only criticized corrupt clergy but declared them unworthy to deliver valid sacraments. In this respect, sixteenth century Protestantism in its attacks on the corrupt clergy was the descendant of the Donatist movement.
St Gelasius
Finally, St Gelasius (492-496) is called an African in the Liber Pontificalis. In another document, Gelasius referred to himself as "born a Roman." It is suggested that he was of African family origin. He is known especially for his strained relationship with the Byzantine emperor Anastasius in Constantinople. Gelasius I unequivocally proclaimed his authority as pope over that of the emperor. The collection of liturgical prayers that bear his name belong to the seventh century.
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Mike, stay out of the white man's continent, there's a lot about Africa you don't know yet, so why not start there?
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Bass & Sundjata - I know that this has still not sunk into your myopic Negro minds, but historically there is no such thing as a "White Mans" continent. The ENTIRE WORLD was originally explored and settled by BLACK PEOPLE. These same Black created the first civilizations in those lands. I am doing what I can to take it back, historically if nothing else. If you find that it takes too much thinking for your comfort, then by all means, ignore it.
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Some Negroes love the works of the white man more than the white man loves his own works.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Bass & Sundjata - I know that this has still not sunk into your myopic Negro minds, but historically there is no such thing as a "White Mans" continent. The ENTIRE WORLD was originally explored and settled by BLACK PEOPLE. These same Black created the first civilizations in those lands. I am doing what I can to take it back, historically if nothing else. If you find that it takes too much thinking for your comfort, then by all means, ignore it.
Something is really wrong with you Mike, stop making a mockery of this site with your far-fetched nonsense. These fanciful ideas of yours have no merit whatsoever. What kind of compartmentalizing are you doing? How do you justify believing this nonsense while still proclaiming some degree of intelligence?
Your stupid photos don't prove a thing! You are a nut dude. Seriously, a real wacko.. You always quote people in isolation while ignoring the fact that none of your sources agrees with or promotes your crazy views about the peopling of ancient Europe. You make me sick.
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quote:Originally posted by Superfly[Formerly The Bass]: Some Negroes love the works of the white man more than the white man loves his own works.
What has that got to do with reclaiming the Black mans glorious legacy of exploration, invention, creativity, science, religion, and Empire building?
You are here on this forum because you are interested in ancient Egypt. But Egypt was ethnically, culturally and materially analogous to original Europe, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, and the Indus Valley; rather than Sub-Saharan Africa - did you ever think about that?
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Sundjata - You need to take your ignorant little backwoods pickaninny self somewhere else. This is obviously too complicated for you.
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quote:Originally posted by Superfly[Formerly The Bass]: Some Negroes love the works of the white man more than the white man loves his own works.
What has that got to do with reclaiming the Black mans glorious legacy of exploration, invention, creativity, science, religion, and Empire building?
You are here on this forum because you are interested in ancient Egypt. But Egypt was ethnically, culturally and materially analogous to original Europe, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, and the Indus Valley; rather than Sub-Saharan Africa - did you ever think about that?
When blacks want to think of the works of the black race they should think of Ancient egypt, Nubia, Aksum, Jenne Jao, Songhai, Mali, Great Zimbabwe, Ghana, Hausa States, Kanem Bornu, etc, not Rome, Greece or anything In Europe, why do you and Clyde worship the white man so much?
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@ Mike 111,while it is certain that there were blacks amongst the Romans,the Romans themselves never self identified themselves as blacks as far as i know.But blacks and others did make up part of the citizenry especially after the conquest of Khart-Haddass,so blacks did became Romans but most Romans were not blacks.
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ackee - I never said the ethnic group "Latins or Romans" were Black. I said the STATE and Society was MIXED! This seems a simple anecdotal conclusion from the evidence. i.e. They (the Latins) conquered and absorbed the Black Etruscans of Italy, they conquered and absorbed the Celtic (the Celts were Black people) Belgae of Belgium, the Celtic Aquitani of France and Spain, and the Celtic Gauls of northern Italy, not to mention the Celts in Britain. Plus the Black Phoenicians in Carthage. That is a lot of Black people to absorb, even if you killed off most of them.
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Hey Mike! Why won't your "sub-Saharan African" ass stop fantasizing about the white man's civilization and get your mom out of rehab.
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Revisiting the issue of Roman tomb paintings in Egypt. These people are obviously mixed race. But which mix, Black European and Roman, or Egyptian and Roman?
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BTW - What is Khart-Haddass? Khart-haddass is Carthage,you know Hannibals city state.
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^I've explained this to you before Mike. These are Roman and Greek inhabitants of Egypt. Many were colonists left behind by Alexander the Great who took Egyptian wives. I see not how that helps your brainless theory that Romans were mixed due to some mysterious Black civilization already established in ancient Italy. You are crazy as batshit.
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quote:We know that Rome like Greece, was born from a previous Black Civilization – in Rome’s case, the Etruscans.
What we know is that your peculiar brand of epistemology is as bizarre as Mary's Hegelian logic. Though they would have blacks among them, neither Etrusci, Minoan or Celtic can be considered a "black civilisation".
quote: When blacks want to think of the works of the black race they should think of Ancient egypt, Nubia, Aksum, Jenne Jao, Songhai, Mali, Great Zimbabwe, Ghana, Hausa States, Kanem Bornu, etc, not Rome,...
I thought you didn't believe in "race", you confused blacksploitation influenced negro you. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by ackee: BTW - What is Khart-Haddass? Khart-haddass is Carthage,you know Hannibals city state.
You know what ackee? I searched all over, but could not find anything named Khart-Haddass. Maybe you meant "Qart-ḥadašt" meaning new place/town in Phoenician?
BTW - alTakruri plays that same silly game, but at least he gets the names right.
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Then there is the mixed-race Severan dynasty of Roman Emperors begun by Septimius Severus who was born and raised at Leptis Magna (modern Libya, southeast of Carthage in modern Tunisia). Severus came from a wealthy, distinguished family of equestrian rank. Severus was of Italian Roman ancestry on his mother's side and of Berber ancestry on his father's side.
Forget the busts of him, they have been "Whitenized"
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Egmond - Have you got anything on The Salian dynasty of Roman Emperors; especially Henry III (29 October 1017 – 5 October 1056), called Henry the Black?
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Topic: Have we been misinformed about Rome? Was it a mixed race State and society?
Evergreen Writes: Before I can answer your question I would need to know how you define the concept of a "race"? What is a "Race" and what distinguishes "races"?
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Mike111, see Dr.Ben for the spelling,and again how is trying to get the names of these ancient places as correct as possible silly games?,for was it not because of the same intellectual lazyness that made most people believe that a state called Nubia existed along side Kemet,which resulted in confusion about who was allied to Kemet and who was an enemy.
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Dr. Ben is a source on Phoenician language? I didn't know that. I buy that the same way I buy the rest of your answer.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Evergreen - Stop the "There is no Race" bullsh1t and go to bed.
Evergreen Writes: You posted the question to the forum. I would expect you to define the terms of your position in a mature manner. Can you answer my question so that I can answer yours.
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Evergreen - You silly boy; I did not take a position on race, none was necessary. The reality of race is axiomatic to normal people. But of course, as in any Human intercourse, there will always be a lunatic fringe. You are that lunatic fringe. The premise of you question has no logic, and can not be supported by anything of a material nature in the REAL world. Therefore it has no place in a scientific discussion.
But, it makes excellent material for a religious sect or group. In that arena, proof and logic are not necessary, you simply have to get people to believe. Shall I start calling you Rev. Evergreen or Father Evergreen?
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Look Mike, if you want to spell Khart as Quart and Haddas as Hadast, fine both spellings and pronunciations are alot closer than Carthage.And it has been stated over and over again that blacks lived north of the Mediterrean,and they indeed contribute to the gene-pool since the neolithic.But the problem is the use of race,and yes there are black skinned peoples with varying,head shape and facial feathers,as there white skinned peoples with the same,and they do mix and mingle all the time,but an Augustus cesaer would not know what you are talking about if you called him mixed.
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^^If your intent is to inform, not grandstand. Then you will use language and terminology that the people that you are trying to inform will understand.
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Evergreen – In an attempt to keep you and your fellow dingbats from bringing this nonsense up again, I will break it down for you. After reading this, ask yourself; if my genes are 98% identical to a Chimp, does that mean that I AM a Chimp, or a Gorillas or a Orangutan??? Then ask yourself, if my genes are almost identical to a Black mans, does that mean that I AM a Black man???
The Great Apes
The Hominidae (anglicized Hominids, also known as great apes) form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.
Humans
Black Mongol Caucasoid
The general consensus among scholars is that dark skin, coupled to loss of body hair, evolved some 1.2 million years ago, well before the emergence of Homo sapiens. The SLC24A5 mutation resulting in light skin is currently estimated to have originated among Europeans (In Asia) some 6,000 to 12,000 years ago.
Chimpanzees
Chimpanzees are members of the Hominidae family, along with gorillas, humans, and orangutans. Chimpanzee are thought to have split from human evolution about 6 million years ago and thus the two chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives to humans; all being members of the Hominini tribe (along with extinct species of Hominina subtribe). Chimpanzees are the only known members of the Panina subtribe. The two Pan species split only about one million years ago. Around 98% of human and chimpanzee DNA sequences are the same.
Common Chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes: the better known chimpanzee lives primarily in West and Central Africa. Bonobo, Pan paniscus: also known as the "Pygmy Chimpanzee", this species is found in the forests of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Gorillas
Gorillas are the largest of the living primates. They are ground-dwelling herbivores that inhabit the forests of Africa. Gorillas are divided into two species and (still under debate as of 2008) either four or five subspecies. The DNA of gorillas is 98%–99% identical to that of a human,[2] and they are the next closest living relatives to humans after the two chimpanzee species.
species and subspecies listed here are the ones upon which most scientists agree.[citation needed] Genus Gorilla Western Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla) Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla gorilla) Cross River Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla diehli) Eastern Gorilla (Gorilla beringei) Mountain Gorilla (Gorilla beringei beringei) Eastern Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla beringei graueri) The proposed third subspecies of Gorilla beringei, which has not yet received a trinomen, is the Bwindi population of the Mountain Gorilla, sometimes called the Bwindi Gorilla.
Orangutans
The orangutans are a species of great apes. Known for their intelligence, they live in trees and they are the largest living arboreal animal. They have longer arms than other great apes, and their hair is typically reddish-brown, instead of the brown or black hair typical of other great apes; a new black-haired subspecies was recently discovered on Borneo by primatologist Birute Galdikas[2]. Native to Indonesia and Malaysia, they are currently found only in rainforests on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra, though fossils have been found in Java, the Thai-Malay Peninsula, Vietnam and China. There are only two surviving species in the genus Pongo and the subfamily Ponginae (which also includes the extinct genera Gigantopithecus and Sivapithecus).
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Oh Mikey, Mikey ma man, bad example the above primates are different species,Black people,White people,brownish yellow skinned people are not different species.I dought the above primates can even have off spring together.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: The reality of race is axiomatic to normal people. But of course, as in any Human intercourse, there will always be a lunatic fringe. You are that lunatic fringe.
LMAO @ Mike the pot (the crack pot) calling the tea kettle Black. Not only the tea kettle either but all of Europe. I'm wondering Mike, given your appeals to popularity, is the idea that Rome, Greece, and any other remotely important civilization in Europe was first founded on top of some mythical indigenous Black civilization axiomatic? Or are people who propose such junk a part of the lunatic fringe? Ha!
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Sundjata - You stupid little girl, if there is scientific EVIDENCE of a thing (a lot of it), then it is NOT mythical. You didn't get past grammar school, did you.
Definition of Mythical: based on or described in a myth especially as contrasted with history: existing only in the imagination : fictitious, imaginary.
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ackee - Blacks, Whites, Mongols all have the same exact Genes??? Take time to think or research - THEN post.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Sundjata - You stupid little girl, if there is scientific EVIDENCE of a thing (a lot of it), then it is NOT mythical. You didn't get past grammar school, did you.
Definition of Mythical: based on or described in a myth especially as contrasted with history: existing only in the imagination : fictitious, imaginary.
You wouldn't know science if it slapped your mama.
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I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It is possible for a minority to have an impact on the larger society in every facet. Black americans impact of Genereal American culture is a prime example. I think it goes without saying that the same situation existed in Greece and Rome.
Now the exact degree to which Mike111 attests regarding "blacks" in Greece and Rome is debatable, to which modern scholarship has not really explored and has prematurely dismissed.
This takes NOTHING away from the major world accomplishments of both supra and non-sahara Africa. Those areas are the birthplace of "western" civilization.
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thegaul - Thank you for an intelligent comment. After dealing with the likes of Sundjata and akoben (are they really that stupid or are they just goofing?) anyway, your comments are very welcome.
However I made no statement regarding degree of participation or influence. I merely stated that Rome appeared to be a mixed-race state, which is very contrary to conventional history as presented by White people - surprise, surprise.
I am beginning to believe that your analogy of Rome with the United States is probably on point. Too bad White people are more interested in hiding their past vis-a-vis Black people, rather than investigating it. We might learn valuable lessons..
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Evergreen – In an attempt to keep you and your fellow dingbats from bringing this nonsense up again, I will break it down for you. After reading this, ask yourself; if my genes are 98% identical to a Chimp, does that mean that I AM a Chimp, or a Gorillas or a Orangutan??? Then ask yourself, if my genes are almost identical to a Black mans, does that mean that I AM a Black man???
The Great Apes
The Hominidae (anglicized Hominids, also known as great apes) form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.
Humans
Black Mongol Caucasoid
The general consensus among scholars is that dark skin, coupled to loss of body hair, evolved some 1.2 million years ago, well before the emergence of Homo sapiens. The SLC24A5 mutation resulting in light skin is currently estimated to have originated among Europeans (In Asia) some 6,000 to 12,000 years ago.
Chimpanzees
Chimpanzees are members of the Hominidae family, along with gorillas, humans, and orangutans. Chimpanzee are thought to have split from human evolution about 6 million years ago and thus the two chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives to humans; all being members of the Hominini tribe (along with extinct species of Hominina subtribe). Chimpanzees are the only known members of the Panina subtribe. The two Pan species split only about one million years ago. Around 98% of human and chimpanzee DNA sequences are the same.
Common Chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes: the better known chimpanzee lives primarily in West and Central Africa. Bonobo, Pan paniscus: also known as the "Pygmy Chimpanzee", this species is found in the forests of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Gorillas
Gorillas are the largest of the living primates. They are ground-dwelling herbivores that inhabit the forests of Africa. Gorillas are divided into two species and (still under debate as of 2008) either four or five subspecies. The DNA of gorillas is 98%–99% identical to that of a human,[2] and they are the next closest living relatives to humans after the two chimpanzee species.
species and subspecies listed here are the ones upon which most scientists agree.[citation needed] Genus Gorilla Western Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla) Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla gorilla) Cross River Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla diehli) Eastern Gorilla (Gorilla beringei) Mountain Gorilla (Gorilla beringei beringei) Eastern Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla beringei graueri) The proposed third subspecies of Gorilla beringei, which has not yet received a trinomen, is the Bwindi population of the Mountain Gorilla, sometimes called the Bwindi Gorilla.
Orangutans
The orangutans are a species of great apes. Known for their intelligence, they live in trees and they are the largest living arboreal animal. They have longer arms than other great apes, and their hair is typically reddish-brown, instead of the brown or black hair typical of other great apes; a new black-haired subspecies was recently discovered on Borneo by primatologist Birute Galdikas[2]. Native to Indonesia and Malaysia, they are currently found only in rainforests on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra, though fossils have been found in Java, the Thai-Malay Peninsula, Vietnam and China. There are only two surviving species in the genus Pongo and the subfamily Ponginae (which also includes the extinct genera Gigantopithecus and Sivapithecus).
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: You are here on this forum because you are interested in ancient Egypt. But Egypt was ethnically, culturally and materially analogous to original Europe, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, and the Indus Valley; rather than Sub-Saharan Africa - did you ever think about that?
I've pointed this out before but as baffling as it seems 19th century racists understood that the Egyptians were not removed from their fellow Africans. Really the guy who wrote this is very racist
quote:In one or other way arose the Hamite,* that negroid race which was the main stock of the ancient Egyptian, and is represented at the present day by the Somali, the Gala, and some of the blood of Abyssinia and of Nubia, and perhaps by the peoples of the Sahara Desert
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There are some truly bizarre characters on Egyptsearch.
As far as Rome is concerned the evidence suggests that they did assimilate other people into their society including Africans however the Italian Peninsula was primarily settled by people adopted to the cold climate of Europe ("Whites"). If there were Blacks in large quantities in Ancient Greece or Rome they would not have distinguished themselves from Black Africans by calling them Ethiopians ("of burnt face").
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Morpheus - The mean temperature of Italy and Greece is about the same as South Africa. White people came from central Asia where it is indeed cold. Considering the multitude of lies told by White people, can you be sure that is what the word really means. Perhaps you should get an opinion from an Ethiopian, they might have done some research on the word.
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^^ Indeed. It is assumed that the word is derived from Greek, but it is also found in the Book of Aksum as Ityoppis. There are numerous etymologies for the word.
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