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We were discussing Heather L. Norton and Rick A. Kittles et al, published study; "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians"
I came across these graphics depicting the study using the Davenport formula for quantitative Human Skin Color prediction, and the Skin color of incoming Asian Whites as described by several writers.
In Herodotus's "History of the Persian Wars" the The Budini of Gelonus (east-central Ukraine), whom he describes as (they have all deep blue eyes, and bright red hair).
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Mike, this is a good method for basing predictive offspring from original and mutated parents. The reasoning and logic appear sound and this appears to be what actually happened in Asia, African (Northern), and Europe.
Now which sounds more plausible, the above, or a bogus claim of whitening due to lower UV and Vitamin D?
Of course Kittles very likely has a similar chart that he can't show without greatly endangering his paycheck.
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FB - You are obviously a very kind-hearted person, and I do appreciate your giving me permission to go back. But yet for all your good qualities, you do seem to be misinformed.
The B.S. as you call it, is taken from White sources, the skin color predictor was developed by a White man, and the study was done by a Black man with about eight White co-authors. Doesn't that mean that it is legit to you?
BTW - You do know that in the Americas, just as in Europe, you are a Murderous invader and a destroyer of civilizations. I have no idea how many Blacks you Albinos killed in Europe. But in the Americas, your Albino people are credited with the killing - through murder and disease, of about ninety million Blacks and mixed race Asians - that number comes from Whites btw.
Now as to my return to Africa, I expect your offer will be accompanied by travel money, and reparations for the criminal act of kidnapping. Then there is that matter of fair payment for labor unlawfully obtained.
You know what, on second thought, civilized people don't demand payment from murderous criminals, we but them in prisons.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: The B.S. as you call it, is taken from White sources, the skin color predictor was developed by a White man, and the study was done by a Black man with about eight White co-authors. Doesn't that mean that it is legit to you?
When are you going to stop lying? Where did you post anything from "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians" in those childlike photchopped pics you posted? You know damn well that what is said in the study debunks you.
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Which is your complaint, the message or the messenger. As I said, the data sources are White. So it must be me, the messenger - is it because I'm Black?
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^^Well lil Mikey your message is false to begin with so what do you think?
Don't try to put your childlike photchopped pics above onto anyone else, you made that up on your own, none of it comes from any genetic study. Why did you put a misleading title on this thread "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians" trying to make it seem like you posted something from the study when in fact you didn't, so if you werent going to post anything from the actual study why entitle the thread after it?
p.s. let me know when you actually want to post something from the study.
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Mindless, the graphics "REPRESENTS" the data implied IN the study. If you had pain attention in Red-Neck High, you would recognize this as the same thing the teacher told you to do with the pie chart - only here it is done with stick figures. Oh,oh, you DID go to school - right? You DO know that a pie chart isn't something to eat - right?
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Yea just as I thought, mums the word from lil Mikey, like I already told you let me know when and if you actually want to post something from the study.
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Mindless Quote: No it really doesn't lil Mikey, what part of the study is being represented in those childlike pics?
As you will recall, the title of the study is "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians"
The graphics are a graphical representation of the study i.e. How Black Europeans over less than 2,000 years became almost Albinos.
The graphics demonstrate how this was done. However the graphics does have one shortcoming. It does not properly represent the actual numbers of people or the proportions i.e. actual ratio of Black people to White people.
Interestingly, the artifacts suggests that the numbers were about even before the Slavs, Germans and Turks showed up.
But that begs the question, so if there was not a truly overwhelming number of Whites invading, why then the Sea Peoples exodus? Why didn't they just stay and battle it out with the Albinos?
These are the kind of things you should be pondering mindless one. Not typos or the quality of the graphics.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Mindless Quote: No it really doesn't lil Mikey, what part of the study is being represented in those childlike pics?
As you will recall, the title of the study is "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians"
The graphics are a graphical representation of the study i.e. How Black Europeans over less than 2,000 years became almost Albinos.
So in other words, just like I said you made this up on your own, not with data from the study but with your pictures and your own thoughts which are not REPRESENTATIVE of the study, the study says genetic evidence for convergent evolution of light skin in east Asians and Europeans, do you know what convergent evolution is lil Mikey? It means they evolved their lightskin separately. East Asians lightskin has nothing to do with Europeans lightskin. I've tried explaining this to you over and over but it never sinks in and you continue on in your ignorance.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: We were discussing Heather L. Norton and Rick A. Kittles et al, published study; "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians"
I came across these graphics depicting the study using the Davenport formula for quantitative Human Skin Color prediction, and the Skin color of incoming Asian Whites as described by several writers.
What you meant to write here was that you actually made these graphics up with photoshop, the same graphics you've been trying to promote your idiotic "theory" for the last year which has all been debunked, and it has absolutely no data from the actual study referenced. Which is completely apparent.
But you tried to sneak it in there like it did. Of course because you're a liar.
So the real question here is why do you continue to lie?
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Okay Mindless, now you are beginning to sound like the lion. ARE YOU REALLY THAT FUCHING STUPID???
Oops I'm sorry, for a minute there I forgot why I call you mindless.
What I mean is that this graphic deals ONLY with Europeans.
To show what happened in Asia would require a different graphic. Of course it would look exactly the same, except the Black guy would have slanty eyes.
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I see you slipped another post in while I was answering the first. And as usual, you can't argue facts so you argue everything else.
You can't say that I haven't been patient, but there is a limit. Try real hard to find something of a factual nature to argue, many statements were made or implied, there must be something that you understood.
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Let me know when you want to post data from the actual study and discuss it instead of making up your own graphics which have absolutely nothing to do with the study you say it represents.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: you can't argue facts so you argue everything else.
Lol @ argue with facts, fact is lil Mikey is that you don't present facts as shown so far in this thread, as well as the last thread you opened, and the one before that. LOL.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: many statements were made or implied, there must be something that you understood.
Yea but the problem here is that all of these statements have been your own and their old and debunked. They have absolutely nothing to do with the study that you entitled this thread after.
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Hey Mindless, remember the good-ole-days when Whites were ALWAYS in Europe. Ya man, Whites were superior, and always in Europe because God MADE them that way, and PUT them in Europe.
But then along came science, and science said that ALL humans came from Africa.
Then along came the Afrocentrics who said, Whoa, ALL Africans are Black, therefore Whites had to at one time have been Black also.
That logical deduction put you all in a tizzy, didn't it. You couldn't deny the logic (for long), so you developed all sorts of bullsh1t theories and studies to explain how Whites turned White, and WHERE they turned White.
i.e. Whites descend from the original Blacks in Europe and turned White "Suddenly" 12,000 years ago IN Europe: Whites descend from the original Blacks in Europe and turned White "Gradually" IN Europe due to the loss of Vitamin D because of Farming.
Mindless, do you remember the many times you argued that Whites "Turned White Suddenly" and DJ would post the picture of the Albino Sami? But it ultimately failed.
It failed for the same reason that the Vitamin D bullsh1t failed i.e. Farming began in Europe circa 7,000 B.C. The human remains from that period through to about 1,200 B.C. indicate a Black people UNCHANGED IN ANY WAY!!! (I won't even bother to note that the Vitamin D bullsh1t was debunked by Whites).
Worst yet, the historical record accounts for ALL KNOWN White people i.e. Hellenes, Latins, Slavs, Germans, Turks, COMING INTO EUROPE!!!
A logical person, like Afrocentrics, would ask the question: HOW could Whites descend from the original Blacks in Europe and turned White "Gradually" IN Europe due to the loss of Vitamin D because of Farming, if we can clearly SEE them COMING INTO EUROPE?
Mindless, In your heart-of-hearts, you have to admit that it's a really stupid theory - though xyyman might like it.
And Afrocentrics understand why you people come up with all of the crazy theories. Your logic is clear.
1) If Whites CAME into Europe, then their participation in the development of the ORIGINAL European Civilizations is a LIE!!!
2) If Whites CAME into Europe, and admixed with the indigenous Africans there, and are STILL so PALE, then they had to have originally been Albinos!
So along comes the Negro Kittles, and he does his little study: "Genetic evidence for the convergent evolution of light skin in Europeans and East Asians".
Now we know that Kittles is a intelligent and good Negro. And he understands the if he came right out and said that Whites were the result of a small population of Black men fuching a large population of Albino Women, they would have immediately taken him out and Lynched him!
Thus the study is almost PURE bullsh1t and (Purposely) almost unreadable. But he slips this little Pearl in; Inter-population phenotypic variation.
We conclude that light pigmentation in Europeans is at least partially due to the effects of positive directional and/or sexual selection and not simply the relaxation of functional constraint.
Of course "sexual selection" means INCOMING White Women, WILLINGLY Allowing Black men to Fuch them (Joyfully) and make Brown babies.
And "NOT simply the relaxation of functional constraint" means that biological needs (i.e.) Vitamin D, had NOTHING to do with it!
So the real purpose of the study, was to explain why people like Sokrates (below), looked as they did, without getting himself Lynched.
Because of course he understood that Whites want to believe that they descend from Blacks who turned White in Europe, with no phenotype change, and no admixture.
Proof of that, is that we have Whites like you, who are in denial, and hawking nonsense Vitamin D bullshit that doesn't even make sense to fools.
Thus we have the Graphics which CLEARLY demonstrate that which Kittles COULD NOT SAY!!!
i.e. Whites are the result of admixture between Black Europeans and INCOMING Albinos over a period of about 2,000 years.
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So Mindless, instead of posting this nonsense that YOU have no clue as to what it means, as proven by the fact that you have to yet EXPLAIN what it means. {Kittles bullsh1t which really has no meaning).
The distributions of the **derived and ancestral alleles** at TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G are consistent with the FST results suggesting strong European specific divergence at these loci. The *derived allele* at TYR, 192*A (previously linked with lighter pigmentation [Shriver et al. 2003]), has a frequency of 38% among European populations but a frequency of only 14% among non-Europeans.The differences between Europeans and non-Europeans for the MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles (both derived alleles associated with lighter pigmentation) were even more striking (MATP European 5 87%; MATP non-European 5 17%; SLC24A5 European 5 100%; SLC24A5 non-European 5 46%).
So instead of constantly posting that bullsh1t, why not try explaining all of these "Mixed Race" people of Ancient Europe.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Okay Mindless, now you are beginning to sound like the lion. ARE YOU REALLY THAT FUCHING STUPID???
Oops I'm sorry, for a minute there I forgot why I call you mindless.
What I mean is that this graphic deals ONLY with Europeans.
To show what happened in Asia would require a different graphic. Of course it would look exactly the same, except the Black guy
would have slanty eyes.
Hahahahaha...that's funny stuff, but TRUE nevertheless. As you see, MatterOverMind has great difficulty in thinking for himself. He can't believe that you could or would derive data independent of a white person. He's like, did you get a white person to do that chart for you. LOL!
Your lay out and the picture above reminds me of the origins and symbolism around Spain's, "Running Of The Bulls", where little white men run from a herd of big black bulls (Moors?), and try not to be trampled or gored. Is this event symbolic of the Moors conquering Spain and making cuckolds of it's men and breeding whores of it's women? Is this why Spanish men talk of a man wearing the horns of the bull, I.E., he's being cuckolded by a black man (bull).
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*YAWN* lil Mikey again, I'll give you one thing you're good at distracting and avoiding your ass whoopins.
Well lil Mikey, for the last time, your graphics have absolutely nothing to do with the data, and you know it.
Just because you have a dunce in your corner like MK who thinks that it does, doesn't make it so, and only shows the imcompetence of MK.
Anyway, back to the point, which is that your graphics are cute for a ten year old, but not over here, and like I already said over and over the graphics do not represent anything other than your own thoughts.
Anyone can make something up and pass it off as if its true, and thats exactly what you're doing, but that doesnt make it so lil Mikey, and I have shown in this thread how much of a liar you really are.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: So Mindless, instead of posting this nonsense that YOU have no clue as to what it means, as proven by the fact that you have to yet EXPLAIN what it means. {Kittles bullsh1t which really has no meaning).
The distributions of the **derived and ancestral alleles** at TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G are consistent with the FST results suggesting strong European specific divergence at these loci. The *derived allele* at TYR, 192*A (previously linked with lighter pigmentation [Shriver et al. 2003]), has a frequency of 38% among European populations but a frequency of only 14% among non-Europeans.The differences between Europeans and non-Europeans for the MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles (both derived alleles associated with lighter pigmentation) were even more striking (MATP European 5 87%; MATP non-European 5 17%; SLC24A5 European 5 100%; SLC24A5 non-European 5 46%).
The above has been explained to you in countless times in different threads about three as of recently, but what do you do?
You never adress it, instead you make new threads to get away from the asswhoopin you were taking in the last.
The above was explained below many times...
lol wow there are three alleles identified and are being discussed here lil Mikey, keep up, which are associated with the ancestral and derived state of darker and lighter pigmentations in Africans and Europeans respectively.
The ancestral state being at TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G which predominates in sub-Saharan Africa and Island Melanesia, the derived state of these alleles on the other hand which are TYR, 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A, predominate in Europe, which is consistent with the FST results of the the distributions of both ancestral and derived, indicating that the derived version is strongly a European specific divergent at these loci and arose outside of Africa.
quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [QB] Do you read? As noted below for the hundredth time, the *derived alleles* at TYR, 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles which are the derived versions of the ancestral versions TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G are actually found at its highest frequencies amongst Europeans and are strong European specific divergent markers, not African albinos, or any other populations, not your East Asians either that you think received their pale skin from Europeans the divergence at these ancestral loci noted above are strong European specific. And of course as noted the populations who carry this allele outside of Europe at frequencies between 60-100% are geographically proximate populations in northern Africa, the middle east and Pakistan. Not East Asia!!!
quote: The distributions of the **derived and ancestral alleles** at TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G are consistent with the FST results suggesting strong European specific divergence at these loci. The *derived allele* at TYR, 192*A (previously linked with lighter pigmentation [Shriver et al. 2003]), has a frequency of 38% among European populations but a frequency of only 14% among non-Europeans.The differences between Europeans and non-Europeans for the MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles (both derived alleles associated with lighter pigmentation) were even more striking (MATP European 5 87%; MATP non-European 5 17%; SLC24A5 European 5 100%; SLC24A5 non-European 5 46%).
Let's see how lil Mikey tries to flip this... [/QUOTE]
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Taken from the other thread lil Mikey created last week on the same subject, only to be trounced and open a new one....
quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
[b]WHERE ARE THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT MINDLESS KEEPS REFERENCING? THERE ARE NONE, THEY'RE ALL BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE!!!
The 20 Spaniards plus 40 other indivuals from the same or similar populations, I.E, Europeans, are now black and brown people?
Ok, lets say we if we were to entertain this wacky idea, so what population are they mixed with? In essence you're saying these Europeans carry these derived alleles at its highest frequencies compared to other populations due to admixture, but from who?
Basically the populations you say theyre (Europeans) admixed with should also carry these alleles at high frequencies, I mean why else would you even mention this, so where are they lil Mikey? LOL
First lil Mikey tries to say something about FST results, then when he failed at this, he then moved on to saying that positive selection is sexual selection, when he failed at this, now he goes and tries to say something about the samples in the study, when he fails at this, what then will he move on to? Lol, he'll make something up. [/QB]
quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [qb] You Know Why they got DARKER???
Come-on you know!
HIM!
And many others like HIM!
So genius Mike, why don't these Africans carry the *derived alleles* at TYR, 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles and instead carry the ancestral versions TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G predominately? How could this happen lil Mikey?
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I never thought that I would ever get you to explain what you were talking about, because I knew, that you knew, that once you did, then I would be able to tear into it. But you foolishly did it anyway, I just can't believe it! So let's begin the butt tearing!
This is what you base your argument on:
The distributions of the **derived and ancestral alleles** at TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G are consistent with the FST results suggesting strong European specific divergence at these loci. The *derived allele* at TYR, 192*A (previously linked with lighter pigmentation [Shriver et al. 2003]), has a frequency of 38% among European populations but a frequency of only 14% among non-Europeans.The differences between Europeans and non-Europeans for the MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles (both derived alleles associated with lighter pigmentation) were even more striking (MATP European 5 87%; MATP non-European 5 17%; SLC24A5 European 5 100%; SLC24A5 non-European 5 46%).
And you say: There are three alleles identified and are being discussed here, which are associated with the ancestral and derived state of darker and lighter pigmentations in Africans and Europeans respectively.
The ancestral state being at TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G which predominates in sub-Saharan Africa and Island Melanesia, the derived state of these alleles on the other hand which are TYR, 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A, predominate in Europe, which is consistent with the FST results of the the distributions of both ancestral and derived, indicating that the derived version is strongly a European specific divergent at these loci and arose outside of Africa.
So genius Mike, why don't these Africans carry the *derived alleles* at TYR, 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles and instead carry the ancestral versions TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G predominately? How could this happen lil Mikey?
First some definations:
Ancestor: one from whom a person is descended and who is usually more remote in the line of descent than a grandparent
Ancestral: of, relating to, or inherited from an ancestor.
Derived: being, possessing, or marked by a character - such as the large brain in humans (or Brown Skin in Albinos). not present in the ancestral form.
FST = Fixation index Fixation index (FST) is a measure of population differentiation, genetic distance, based on genetic polymorphism data, such as single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) or microsatellites. It is a special case of F-statistics, the concept developed in the 1920s by Sewall Wright.
F_{ST} = II{Between} - II{Within} II{Between}
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You will recall that I earlier demonstrated that the Black European males and the INCOMING Albino females were doing THIS: (P.S. This is how Albino Mommy's and Black Daddy's make Brown Babies)!
In sexual reproduction each offspring gets half of its DNA from each of 2 parents, so each offspring is genetically different from both parents and usually from other offspring of the same parents.
Thus the ancestral TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G (The Black African).
When joined with ancestral TYR A192C*a, MATP C374G*a, and SLC24A5 A111G*a (The Asian Albino).
Produces the "DERIVED" TYR 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A
And since this joining of the Black African and the Asian Albino occurred in Europe, the "DERIVED" TYR 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A: CANNOT exist in either Africa OR Asia as it is "DERIVED" and unique to Europe ONLY.
Graphic Demonstration of the DATA!
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This may surprise some people but I can't believe in what Mike111 is saying.
I mean look who's talking, someone who has been poisoned by a certain amount of albino in his own ancestry. I hesitate to even call such people "black".
We need to breed pure black people. Full spectrum triple stage darkness blue-blacks, not mutts.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: In sexual reproduction each offspring gets half of its DNA from each of 2 parents, [/b]so each offspring is genetically different from both parents[b] and usually from other offspring of the same parents.
Thus the ancestral TYR A192C, MATP C374G, and SLC24A5 A111G (The Black African).
When joined with ancestral TYR A192C*a, MATP C374G*a, and SLC24A5 A111G*a (The Asian Albino)
Produces the "DERIVED" TYR 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A
And since this joining of the Black African and the Asian Albino occurred in Europe, the "DERIVED" TYR 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A: CANNOT exist in either Africa OR Asia as it is "DERIVED" and unique to Europe ONLY.
Oh so now they're Asian albinos, no longer African albinos etc... huh? And the ancestral state mixed with the derived state and produced the derived state?
So where did the derived state come from to begin with? The sky? No, it came from the ancestral state you dimwit.
Lol you're so fricken dumb it's kind of sad. I'll explain this one more time, the ancestral state is what humans carried when they walked out of Africa and populated the world, eventually going into Europe, it then mutated from its ancestral state in Europe into its derived state.
These alleles mutating outside of Africa and specifically in Europe debunks your case that Europeans descend from African albinos as showed the original ancestral state of the allele predominates in sub Saharan Africa and island Melanesia.
If the derived state represented albinos walking OOA then we should see these derived states in island Melanesian's etc.. but we don't, which means that it occurred after humans left Africa.
So much for Europeans descending from African albinos.
P.S. just for kick, the San carry a derived state of the OCA2 allele which accounts somewhat for their lighterskin, you know OCA2 is supposed to the albino marker according to MK, so why aren't the San albinos?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: You will recall that I earlier demonstrated that the Black European males and the INCOMING Albino females were doing THIS: (P.S. This is how Albino Mommy's and Black Daddy's make Brown Babies)!
LOL, that's supposed to represent a black man with a white woman? Wow lil Mikey, you're seriously deluded.
Anyway, so now black men mix with albinos and make brown babies?
Where else have you seen this?
You make some of the dumbest statements, why? Because you make them up yourself.
A black man with an albino woman, would either produce a baby with a full dark skin complexion as the dad, or if the fathers an OCA2 carrier another albino. No brown babies being created, that only happens when normally functioning people black and white produce a child, note Barack Obama.
If his mother was an albino, then he should've came out his fathers complexion or as an albino, not inbetween. You jackass. LOL
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Oh so now they're Asian albinos, no longer African albinos etc... huh? And the ancestral state mixed with the derived state and produced the derived state? [Confused]
African albinos were NOT a part of the study, therefore no samples were taken from African albinos.
So where did the derived state come from to begin with? The sky? No, it came from the ancestral state you dimwit.
Please see the definition of a Child's DNA (It is "derived") Therefore DIFFERENT from BOTH Parents.
Lol you're so fricken dumb it's kind of sad. I'll explain this one more time, the ancestral state is what humans carried when they walked out of Africa and populated the world, eventually going into Europe, it then mutated from its ancestral state in Europe into its derived state.
Derived is NOT the same as MUTATED.
These alleles mutating outside of Africa and specifically in Europe debunks your case that Europeans descend from African albinos as showed the original ancestral state of the allele predominates in sub Saharan Africa and island Melanesia.
EXACTLY! The Africans did NOT change, their Children Did!
If the derived state represented albinos walking OOA then we should see these derived states in island Melanesian's etc.. but we don't, which means that it occurred after humans left Africa.
Nice try; but nobody said that Albinos represented the DERIVED state; They represent the MUTATED state. Their Children with Black Africans i.e. "White Europeans" represent the "DERIVED" state.
So much for Europeans descending from African albinos.
Yes, there are almost 700 million of them.
P.S. just for kick, the San carry a derived state of the OCA2 allele which accounts somewhat for their lighterskin, you know OCA2 is supposed to the albino marker according to MK, so why aren't the San albinos?
Good question
Anyway, so now black men mix with albinos and make brown babies?
Where else have you seen this?
You make some of the dumbest statements, why? Because you make them up yourself.
A black man with an albino woman, would either produce a baby with a full dark skin complexion as the dad, or if the fathers an OCA2 carrier another albino. No brown babies being created, that only happens when normally functioning people black and white produce a child, note Barack Obama.
If his mother was an albino, then he should've came out his fathers complexion or as an albino, not inbetween. You jackass. LOL
Whoa, wait a minute, on the one hand you say that the Sans light skin and derived OCA2 should make them Albino derived, then on the other hand you say that it is NOT possible??? Make up your mind!
On second though, why not ponder this picture of a Black Father, Albino Mother, and two children of in-between color, one Albino, the other not.
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: Anyone else notice that Mike111 seems especially...fascinated by the thought of black men sleeping with white women?
I have noticed this too, also he posted a pic of the Moors slaying an African with boldness and pride but I await a pic of the Moor slaying a white Arab. I think Mike111 is a troll sent to portray E,S and blacks in general as Ignorant and moronic.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: The mindless ones Mindless comments.
Oh so now they're Asian albinos, no longer African albinos etc... huh? And the ancestral state mixed with the derived state and produced the derived state? [Confused]
African albinos were NOT a part of the study, therefore no samples were taken from African albinos.
Well here's the thing lil Mikey, if Europeans were descended from African albinos carrying this derived state, then we should see it amongst island Melanesians, who represent one of the oldest populations genetically living outside of Africa.
But guess what lil Mikey?
The Melanesians predominately carry the ancestral allele. So much for albinos walking OOA.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: So where did the derived state come from to begin with? The sky? No, it came from the ancestral state you dimwit.
Please see the definition of a Child's DNA (It is "derived") Therefore DIFFERENT from BOTH Parents.
No, lil Mikey, we're not talking about a childs DNA, we're talking about a few specific alleles, which do not even account for half of the DNA carried by one parent let alone both parents
Jeez you're slow.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lol you're so fricken dumb it's kind of sad. I'll explain this one more time, the ancestral state is what humans carried when they walked out of Africa and populated the world, eventually going into Europe, it then mutated from its ancestral state in Europe into its derived state.
Derived is NOT the same as MUTATED.
Actually in this case it is, since the ancestral allele which predominates in Africa and island Melanesia is the same exact one that was analyzed in the study, wherein it showed to be mutated in this loci specifically in Europeans, this makes it the derived state, since we know humans walked OOA with the ancestral, not the derived.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: These alleles mutating outside of Africa and specifically in Europe debunks your case that Europeans descend from African albinos as showed the original ancestral state of the allele predominates in sub Saharan Africa and island Melanesia.
EXACTLY! The Africans did NOT change, their Children Did!
Yes Mike, African children did change outside of Africa, which meant their children were African, hence Africans did change.
Europeans didn't just drop out of the sky, they descend from Africans just like all other non Africas.
Btw, thanks for noting that the descendants changed outside of Africa, now you're catching on.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: If the derived state represented albinos walking OOA then we should see these derived states in island Melanesian's etc.. but we don't, which means that it occurred after humans left Africa.
Nice try; but nobody said that Albinos represented the DERIVED state; They represent the MUTATED state. Their Children with Black Africans i.e. "White Europeans" represent the "DERIVED" state.
The derived state found specifically in Europeans is mutated from the original ancestral allele which in turn is found in Africa, hence its in a derived state when found in Europeans.
You say African albinos represent Europeans and they walked out of Africa taking the same route all early humans did, hence we should see these derived/mutated alleles in island melanesians, but we don't lil Mikey.
Again, so much for albinos walking OOA.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: So much for Europeans descending from African albinos.
Yes, there are almost 700 million of them.
Yea, and guess what? Fewer than 5 out of every 100,000 people in Europe are albinos. So much for "your theory" that Europeans are albinos.
"Albinism is a rare disorder found in fewer than five people per 100,000 in the United States and Europe. Other parts of the world have a much higher rate; for example, albinism is found in about 20 out of every 100,000 people in southern Nigeria."
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: P.S. just for kick, the San carry a derived state of the OCA2 allele which accounts somewhat for their lighterskin, you know OCA2 is supposed to the albino marker according to MK, so why aren't the San albinos?
Good question
Yes it is, but too bad for you that the San are not albinos and that the OCA2 gene plays a role in darker and lighter pigmentation worldwide.
Polymorphisms in 2 genes, ASIP and OCA2, may play a shared role in shaping light and dark pigmentation across the globe , whereas SLC24A5, MATP, and TYR have a predominant role in the evolution of light skin in Europeans but not in East Asians. These findings support a case for the recent convergent evolution of a lighter pigmentation phenotype in Europeans and East Asians.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Anyway, so now black men mix with albinos and make brown babies?
Where else have you seen this?
You make some of the dumbest statements, why? Because you make them up yourself.
A black man with an albino woman, would either produce a baby with a full dark skin complexion as the dad, or if the fathers an OCA2 carrier another albino. No brown babies being created, that only happens when normally functioning people black and white produce a child, note Barack Obama.
If his mother was an albino, then he should've came out his fathers complexion or as an albino, not inbetween. You jackass. LOL Whoa, wait a minute, on the one hand you say that the Sans light skin and derived OCA2 should make them Albino derived, then on the other hand you say that it is NOT possible??? Make up your mind!
No, you dipshit, I noted that since mutations in the OCA2 gene are associated with albinism, and the San carry a derived version of this gene, shouldn't that make them albinos according to you and MK?
But their not albinos lil Mikey, you know why?
Because the OCA2 gene accounts for lighter and darker skin pigmentation across the globe.
Also guess what lil Mikey, the alleles specifically assocaiited with lighterskin in Europeans and no one else which are *derived alleles* at TYR, 192*A, MATP 374*G and SLC24A5 111*A alleles, are not the OCA2 gene.
So much for Europeans being descended from African albinos.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: On second though, why not ponder this picture of a Black Father, Albino Mother, and two children of in-between color, one Albino, the other not.[/b]
Where's the African albino mother?
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quote:Originally posted by the lion: also where's the African albino with straight hair and an aquiline nose?
That's a very good question the Lion.
But first you should remember that when we say African Albino, we actually mean "Dravidian" Albinos as these are the former Black Africans, now residing in India, who are the ancestors of Europeans by way of Asia. (Dravidians and Europeans have EXACTLY the same phenotype).
And as you may recall, those Dravidian Albinos who went to Central Asia, returned at about 1,500 B.C. (they now called themselves Aryans) and the "Normal" Dravidians mixed with them and produced what is now a major part of the Indian population, the Hindu.
These Hindu, being half Black, and half Albino are of course terribly race confused, as evidenced by this video.
As you can see from the video, to some Hindu's Albinism is simply a return to the preferred state, so they don't really make too much of it. And thus there aren't any studies done.
Then there is the matter of being unjustly accused.
What I mean, is that since a Dravidian Albino would look exactly like a Scandinavian, or an Icelander, or even a German. I fear some of the more mean-spirited forum members would accuse me of posting pictures of those people and falsely calling them Dravidian Albinos.
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Paabo appears to support Mike's Albino theory.
Albinos, Neanderthals, and the Myth of Superiority
§ 1. INTRODUCTION While the motive of other researchers of the Homo Sapiens Albinos' camp concerning the propounding of the theory of man had been energised by the ”dominance intention,” the motive of some independent researchers had been rooted from the ”fact finding” and the ”wonders of natures” intentions. Surely, there are differences between human beings, but these differences had been explained to be negligible that should not give us the course for others to elevate themselves with the intention of securing “illusory superiority” in the world. The recent work by me which had been entitled “War Psychiatry: Contemporary Theories on War Disorders and Other Related Conditions” has been successful in explaining the conditions regarding the human migration and why the Homo Sapiens Albinos got their forged “frivolous power” and “recognition” from. Of late, other scholars of different disciplines had through the inspiration given to them by my work been capable of presenting what seems to be the real and authentic history concerning human migration, and their populating of different continents of the earth.
The purpose of this article is to refute the recent postulate advanced by Pablo Pääbo, a German Evolutionist that Neanderthals mated with the Albinos and that this has given them some unique characteristics as against all others who had no sexual contact with these primitive human beings. The study will show that the Neanderthals were primitive beings, ugly, aggressive, and their failure to survive (lived in caves) in the hectic Arctic region showed that they were not intelligent and lacked developmental capability just as had initially been seen with the shunned Homo Sapiens Albinos who today have managed to make it through the help of science that was originated by Homo Sapiens Africanus. The Neanderthals' natural strength which was protruding characteristic prevented them from depending on their brains, which were the right human instruments to aid them to adapt to their challenging milieu.
§ 2. SPECULATIVE THEORIES AND ALBINOS DESCENDANTS
Pääbo's work, like many early theories postulated by the Albinos, were intended to cause others to view only these Albinos as the right human beings on earth. Earlier before when the theory of deformation had not been propounded, it had allowed these Albinos to secure all that was on earth. This also gave them pre-eminence in whatever was being done on earth that concerned human beings. It must be emphasised that the idea that these primitive Neanderthal beings had mated with these Albinos were discarded long time ago. It did not sound likeable because these beings were primitive and had, moreover, failed to survive as against the Homo Sapiens Africannus who had thrived so many thousand of years on the planet. Therefore, it was not surprising that now that there is nothing strong to be used to support their elevation and glorification of themselves they should now recoil to this less likely scenario of the shunned Albinos being the beauty or attractive to these crafty and aggressive primitive Neanderthals. Though, this time the work had utilised genetic information to make the discovery he purported to have unravelled, I must say that there had been sundry occasions where scientists had falsified information to secure what they wanted to find. Even if they had the objectivity to make such analysis to be perfect, still the study does not give us the strongest urge to accept this as genuine. Neanderthals tragically failed and it would be very hard for anyone to accept these failed people to have the characteristic that help development that Pablo purports to propagate to the world. There are incredibly many people in the Homo Sapiens Africanus camp that had similar features like the Neanderthals, and these had been capable of producing Albinos that could also disprove this theory concerning physical features of these failed primitive beings that slept in Caves and left no tangible civilisation.
§ 2. NEANDERTHALS: PRIMITIVE, UGLY, AND NOT INTELLIGENT
As mentioned before, Albinos have a tendency of seeing things about them as the best and, moreover, their perspective in viewing at things more superb than all other human beings. Their skin colour, eyes, and hair which had been the result of deformation, was seen by them and many other ignorant people as the best human characteristics until recently it was revealed through research that indicated that it was actually an inherited disorder. Even war, which had been the most primitive method of settling cases by the barbarians and the naive tribes which lived many centuries ago, had been accepted by these adventurous Albinos as the yardstick for measuring superiority in the world. Stealing and force confiscation of other human beings' properties in diverse parts of the earth had been the characteristics of these barbaric wars that were usually engineered by these Albinos but still they manipulated all other nations to follow their footsteps. These, therefore, became the accepted practice to deal with them and it was childish manner of dealing with themselves in those years of domination and slavery. When one reads stories and facts about these Neanderthals who roamed in the colder climates prior to the flight of the Albinos due to deformation and concomitant mobbing, one finds the picture of primitive beings that had no manners of controlling their primitive urges. They looked very ugly and, moreover, they had no intelligent manners that permitted them to build houses and as a result enabled them to survive. If these people that failed and had no form of education and left no trace of civilisation is what Pablo Pääbo is talking about them, then, I shall ask him to investigate for himself those people that built the first civilisation on earth when the Albinos were roaming in the colder climates as shunned vagabonds. While Homo sapiens Albinos had ruled the world for more that 15000 years, Albinos only appeared on the scene 1200 BC to only destroy and also build upon what other Homo Sapiens Africannus had already built. Later, I would inform Pääbo how the Jews who are direct descendants of the Black Africans had helped the Nazi states to achieve for Germany and also how the black-haired Albinos from Central Europe built the Scandinavia society which was desolate in terms of industries even during the 1600. The blondes were being discriminated in terms of jobs because they had not built the factories and industries themselves; those people from Central Europe (black-haired with brown eyes) had monopoly and they, the blondes had to struggle to come in to secure jobs in the job market.
§ 3. NEANDERTHALS: AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR AND LIVED IN CAVES
The Neanderthals hunted in large groups and lived in caves. They had no proper manners of living and had to clothe themselves with animal skins. It was the pressure put on them that compelled them to devise these means of clothing themselves. Unlike the Albinos, they had no Roman tribes (Latins) to come and open their eyes and teach them how to clothe themselves. Some Albinos were running naked in the Island that was situated in the western side of continental Europe (British Isles). Nor did they have the Egyptians and the black Greeks to teach them the rudiments of science by allowing them to participate in their religious rituals. It has been said that the drawings in the cave in France were done by the black civilisation that lived there before the Albinos migrated from their isolation to come and only destroy what others had already built.
§ 4. HOMO SAPIENS ALBINOS WERE SHUNNED AS OUTCAST
It is accepted fact that Albinos were shunned as outcast and that explained the reason while they initially married among themselves. Spreading in different groups, sisters married their brothers and brothers married their sisters, allowing the different tribes to gain physical characteristics with big noses, pointed noses, or big eyes, which later would help them with identification and nation building. Though, they met other people from Asia during their nomadic journey, these were Albino Mongols and other Albinos from the Dravidian tribes, that is, other black people that migrated from the continent of Africa. It is likely that these Neanderthals might have shunned these Albinos (with their strange hair and skin colour) and probably either killed them when they had caught their eyes or sacrificed them to their gods as it was being done in the pioneer continent of Africa. (By the way, Africa and Europe used to be one continent until cunning Albinos separated them by giving them different names; also calling themselves wrong colour of being “white”. If this separation were not made, probably we would not be struggling to refute some of the myths coined by these Albinos in order to obtain “illusory superiority”).
§ 5. DEVELOPMENT IN THE SCANDINAVIA The grouping of the Albinos in the Northern Hemisphere as against those Albinos in the Central Europe should not only be seen as due to the mixing of the Central Europeans with blacks in Africa recently (in Italy where the Africans conquered the Albinos and mated with them). But on the contrary, the mobbing that those blondes (in German language blond means “Yellow” which corresponds to the hair of African Albinos or Homo Sapiens Albinos Africanus) faced among those with black hair. In the Northern Hemisphere, during the 1500 onwards those people that migrated to the Islands who had black hair and brown eyes had to discriminate against the natives who were blondes. The latter were finding it difficult to be employed by the former when they brought their industries and factories (these persons from Belgium etc). The conflict continued for sometime which might have explained why Hitler started his later hate against those with black hair and brown eyes in Germany. The blondes were seen as lazy individuals and therefore were not being employed by the Albino immigrants with black hair and brown eyes.
Later in Germany and elsewhere those with Black hair and brown eyes (Kepler, Kant, Descarte, Von Neumann, etc) including the Jews had contributed to the world of science by propounding superb theories that had changed the world beyond recognition (Einstein, Neil Bohr, etc). As before their civilisation in the distant past where black people had excelled and built superb civilisation so also were the times during their recent civilisation those with black hair and brown eyes had contributed through their superb scientific achievement. Pablo Pääbo's theory lacked basis when he says that the mixing of the DNA of the primitive Neanderthals with the Albinos aided the Albinos to develop scientifically. Albinos had always been seen as handicapped and lazy individuals who through manipulation and stealing had confiscated others' properties.
§ 6. “DOMINANCE INTENTION” AND FALSE THEORIES
As reiterated elsewhere Albinos' “honeymoon” is over; they did not originate all the developments we see in the world at the moment. At any rate, now that the world has discovered their manipulations and cunning behaviour, and also how they create wars to confuse the different groups of people and dominate, they shall surely suffer as they have no pre-eminence in the world any longer. Concerning developments that they refer to them in their boasting, all serious nations shall reach the destination of modern technology and developments if they seriously work toward them.
§ 7. HOMO SAPIENS ALBINOS DESPERATE LAST CHANCE
The scientific community had never accepted the idea that Albinos mated with primitive, ugly, and unintelligent Neanderthal tribes. It has been pointed out over and over again, so why Pablo Pääbo should get the idea that this could be a desperate attempt to refute the authentic researchers presented by Black haired and Brown eyes researchers from the “normal” and original human beings of this earth, the progenitors of the earth but not counterfeit but instead original, it is very hard to understand. Pablo thinks that we live in the 1920s where Albinos coined wrong colour “white” to refer to themselves. Let a Martian citizen come to this earth and ask him whether he would assign “white colour” to the Albinos' descendants of the planet earth. We shall never succumb to the people that had led the world through manipulation and so coaxed to see only in their perspective which deceived us to follow them in their barbaric wars that nearly brought the people of the world to their kneels. We shall never surrender to the mediocre theory formulated by the Albinos to elevate themselves alone above all others even though the facts prove us right that they possessed a disorder not the rest of us.
§ 8. CONCLUSION There are many indications that point to the fact that the Neanderthals suffered extinction because of some inherent disorder they possessed which was not obvious to us just as the Albinos' disorder was not obvious to us so they deceived the world to follow them concerning their barbaric wars on earth. Albinos suffered humiliation and frustration because the world shunned them just as their parent had earlier shunned them. The terrible situation they found themselves were only minor, if one considers the fact that they were continuously being sacrificed and killed for the gods of the original human beings. If they had not had contact with Africans, Asians and many others who surrendered their properties to them, probably they would have died or become extinct like the Neanderthals due to the barbaric wars they fought among themselves. The disorder of greed alone would have caused them to be extinct had it not been the kind and gentle demeanour shown to them by the original humans. The attempt to set themselves aside in order to continue the manipulation and cunning behaviour should be immediately impeded. Through consensus we can reduce the wars and bizarre behaviour they had shown in this world due to ignorance which the people of the world had allowed themselves to suffer.
Neanderthals were primitive human beings who had some hidden disorders that could be tied to their bizarre behaviour and extinction from the planet earth. Their conditions in the hectic weather in the Arctic were pathetic and were due to their lack of capability to develop creatively and survive on earth. If the world does not take control and allows the Albinos to alone lead the world, we shall one day find ourselves boiling in nuclear war.
Desmond Ayim-Aboagye had taught in Uppsala University in Sweden and Åbo Akademi University in Finland. He is currently Associate Professor in the latter University. Desmond is on his way to Ghana to continue teaching in one of the Universities in Ghana.
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Clyde - But doesn't all of this prove the power of suggestion over a weak mind?
Re; the Indian Video;
I find it amazing how the Whites have used their power over media, to convince "Healthy" people that it is better to be in the "Diseased" state of Albinism, than in the "Normal Healthy" state of "Pigmentation".
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Paabo appears to support Mike's Albino theory. Savante Paabo is the German evolutionary genetist who created the Albino theory I believe. He also gave us the recent news of Neanderthal-Human connection.
Scientists prove humans bred with Neanderthals The Local ^ | Thursday, May 6, 2010
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:42:51 PM by Willie Green
For the first time ever, German scientists have drafted a genome sequence for the Neanderthal and believe their results show that the extinct hominid interbred with humans.
Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig analysed some four billion base pairs of DNA from Neanderthals – a species which died out more than 30,000 years ago. Initial analysis of the resulting genome sequence draft show that Neanderthals left traces of themselves in the genomes of some modern humans, the study published in this month’s journal “Science” revealed.
"The comparison of these two genetic sequences enables us to find out where our genome differs from that of our closest relative," research team leader Svante Pääbo said in a statement.
The DNA fragments came from bones found in Croatia, Russia, Spain and the Neandertal region of Germany. But the scientists had to develop a new method of separating DNA microbes that had lived in the bones for some 40,000 years and the DNA of the Neanderthals themselves, the statement said.
“Over 95 percent of the DNA in one sample originated from bacteria and micro-organisms which colonised the Neanderthal after his death," Pääbo said.
Once they were able to compare the human and Neanderthal genome sequences, they discovered that contrary to the common belief that the two species are not related, it appears the two actually bred enough for traces to appear in between one and four percent of modern human DNA.
"Those of us who live outside Africa carry a little Neanderthal DNA in us," Pääbo said.
The scientists compared the genome sequences for European, Asian and Africans against the Neanderthal, and found that humans outside Africa show traces.
"Neanderthals probably mixed with early modern humans before Homo sapiens split into different groups in Europe and Asia," Pääbo said.
Now the group is working to determine which modern human genes may have come from Neanderthals and whether they provided an evolutionary advantage.
So far they have found genes related to cognitive function, metabolism and cranial features, the collar bone, and rib cage, the statement said.
"We will also decode the remaining parts of the Neanderthal genome and learn much more about ourselves and our closest relative," says Svante Pääbo.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: Paabo appears to support Mike's Albino theory.
Albinos, Neanderthals, and the Myth of Superiority
§ 1. INTRODUCTION While the motive of other researchers of the Homo Sapiens Albinos' camp concerning the propounding of the theory of man had been energised by the ”dominance intention,” the motive of some independent researchers had been rooted from the ”fact finding” and the ”wonders of natures” intentions. Surely, there are differences between human beings, but these differences had been explained to be negligible that should not give us the course for others to elevate themselves with the intention of securing “illusory superiority” in the world. The recent work by me which had been entitled “War Psychiatry: Contemporary Theories on War Disorders and Other Related Conditions” has been successful in explaining the conditions regarding the human migration and why the Homo Sapiens Albinos got their forged “frivolous power” and “recognition” from. Of late, other scholars of different disciplines had through the inspiration given to them by my work been capable of presenting what seems to be the real and authentic history concerning human migration, and their populating of different continents of the earth.
The purpose of this article is to refute the recent postulate advanced by Pablo Pääbo, a German Evolutionist that Neanderthals mated with the Albinos and that this has given them some unique characteristics as against all others who had no sexual contact with these primitive human beings. The study will show that the Neanderthals were primitive beings, ugly, aggressive, and their failure to survive (lived in caves) in the hectic Arctic region showed that they were not intelligent and lacked developmental capability just as had initially been seen with the shunned Homo Sapiens Albinos who today have managed to make it through the help of science that was originated by Homo Sapiens Africanus. The Neanderthals' natural strength which was protruding characteristic prevented them from depending on their brains, which were the right human instruments to aid them to adapt to their challenging milieu.
§ 2. SPECULATIVE THEORIES AND ALBINOS DESCENDANTS
Pääbo's work, like many early theories postulated by the Albinos, were intended to cause others to view only these Albinos as the right human beings on earth. Earlier before when the theory of deformation had not been propounded, it had allowed these Albinos to secure all that was on earth. This also gave them pre-eminence in whatever was being done on earth that concerned human beings. It must be emphasised that the idea that these primitive Neanderthal beings had mated with these Albinos were discarded long time ago. It did not sound likeable because these beings were primitive and had, moreover, failed to survive as against the Homo Sapiens Africannus who had thrived so many thousand of years on the planet. Therefore, it was not surprising that now that there is nothing strong to be used to support their elevation and glorification of themselves they should now recoil to this less likely scenario of the shunned Albinos being the beauty or attractive to these crafty and aggressive primitive Neanderthals. Though, this time the work had utilised genetic information to make the discovery he purported to have unravelled, I must say that there had been sundry occasions where scientists had falsified information to secure what they wanted to find. Even if they had the objectivity to make such analysis to be perfect, still the study does not give us the strongest urge to accept this as genuine. Neanderthals tragically failed and it would be very hard for anyone to accept these failed people to have the characteristic that help development that Pablo purports to propagate to the world. There are incredibly many people in the Homo Sapiens Africanus camp that had similar features like the Neanderthals, and these had been capable of producing Albinos that could also disprove this theory concerning physical features of these failed primitive beings that slept in Caves and left no tangible civilisation.
§ 2. NEANDERTHALS: PRIMITIVE, UGLY, AND NOT INTELLIGENT
As mentioned before, Albinos have a tendency of seeing things about them as the best and, moreover, their perspective in viewing at things more superb than all other human beings. Their skin colour, eyes, and hair which had been the result of deformation, was seen by them and many other ignorant people as the best human characteristics until recently it was revealed through research that indicated that it was actually an inherited disorder. Even war, which had been the most primitive method of settling cases by the barbarians and the naive tribes which lived many centuries ago, had been accepted by these adventurous Albinos as the yardstick for measuring superiority in the world. Stealing and force confiscation of other human beings' properties in diverse parts of the earth had been the characteristics of these barbaric wars that were usually engineered by these Albinos but still they manipulated all other nations to follow their footsteps. These, therefore, became the accepted practice to deal with them and it was childish manner of dealing with themselves in those years of domination and slavery. When one reads stories and facts about these Neanderthals who roamed in the colder climates prior to the flight of the Albinos due to deformation and concomitant mobbing, one finds the picture of primitive beings that had no manners of controlling their primitive urges. They looked very ugly and, moreover, they had no intelligent manners that permitted them to build houses and as a result enabled them to survive. If these people that failed and had no form of education and left no trace of civilisation is what Pablo Pääbo is talking about them, then, I shall ask him to investigate for himself those people that built the first civilisation on earth when the Albinos were roaming in the colder climates as shunned vagabonds. While Homo sapiens Albinos had ruled the world for more that 15000 years, Albinos only appeared on the scene 1200 BC to only destroy and also build upon what other Homo Sapiens Africannus had already built. Later, I would inform Pääbo how the Jews who are direct descendants of the Black Africans had helped the Nazi states to achieve for Germany and also how the black-haired Albinos from Central Europe built the Scandinavia society which was desolate in terms of industries even during the 1600. The blondes were being discriminated in terms of jobs because they had not built the factories and industries themselves; those people from Central Europe (black-haired with brown eyes) had monopoly and they, the blondes had to struggle to come in to secure jobs in the job market.
§ 3. NEANDERTHALS: AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR AND LIVED IN CAVES
The Neanderthals hunted in large groups and lived in caves. They had no proper manners of living and had to clothe themselves with animal skins. It was the pressure put on them that compelled them to devise these means of clothing themselves. Unlike the Albinos, they had no Roman tribes (Latins) to come and open their eyes and teach them how to clothe themselves. Some Albinos were running naked in the Island that was situated in the western side of continental Europe (British Isles). Nor did they have the Egyptians and the black Greeks to teach them the rudiments of science by allowing them to participate in their religious rituals. It has been said that the drawings in the cave in France were done by the black civilisation that lived there before the Albinos migrated from their isolation to come and only destroy what others had already built.
§ 4. HOMO SAPIENS ALBINOS WERE SHUNNED AS OUTCAST
It is accepted fact that Albinos were shunned as outcast and that explained the reason while they initially married among themselves. Spreading in different groups, sisters married their brothers and brothers married their sisters, allowing the different tribes to gain physical characteristics with big noses, pointed noses, or big eyes, which later would help them with identification and nation building. Though, they met other people from Asia during their nomadic journey, these were Albino Mongols and other Albinos from the Dravidian tribes, that is, other black people that migrated from the continent of Africa. It is likely that these Neanderthals might have shunned these Albinos (with their strange hair and skin colour) and probably either killed them when they had caught their eyes or sacrificed them to their gods as it was being done in the pioneer continent of Africa. (By the way, Africa and Europe used to be one continent until cunning Albinos separated them by giving them different names; also calling themselves wrong colour of being “white”. If this separation were not made, probably we would not be struggling to refute some of the myths coined by these Albinos in order to obtain “illusory superiority”).
§ 5. DEVELOPMENT IN THE SCANDINAVIA The grouping of the Albinos in the Northern Hemisphere as against those Albinos in the Central Europe should not only be seen as due to the mixing of the Central Europeans with blacks in Africa recently (in Italy where the Africans conquered the Albinos and mated with them). But on the contrary, the mobbing that those blondes (in German language blond means “Yellow” which corresponds to the hair of African Albinos or Homo Sapiens Albinos Africanus) faced among those with black hair. In the Northern Hemisphere, during the 1500 onwards those people that migrated to the Islands who had black hair and brown eyes had to discriminate against the natives who were blondes. The latter were finding it difficult to be employed by the former when they brought their industries and factories (these persons from Belgium etc). The conflict continued for sometime which might have explained why Hitler started his later hate against those with black hair and brown eyes in Germany. The blondes were seen as lazy individuals and therefore were not being employed by the Albino immigrants with black hair and brown eyes.
Later in Germany and elsewhere those with Black hair and brown eyes (Kepler, Kant, Descarte, Von Neumann, etc) including the Jews had contributed to the world of science by propounding superb theories that had changed the world beyond recognition (Einstein, Neil Bohr, etc). As before their civilisation in the distant past where black people had excelled and built superb civilisation so also were the times during their recent civilisation those with black hair and brown eyes had contributed through their superb scientific achievement. Pablo Pääbo's theory lacked basis when he says that the mixing of the DNA of the primitive Neanderthals with the Albinos aided the Albinos to develop scientifically. Albinos had always been seen as handicapped and lazy individuals who through manipulation and stealing had confiscated others' properties.
§ 6. “DOMINANCE INTENTION” AND FALSE THEORIES
As reiterated elsewhere Albinos' “honeymoon” is over; they did not originate all the developments we see in the world at the moment. At any rate, now that the world has discovered their manipulations and cunning behaviour, and also how they create wars to confuse the different groups of people and dominate, they shall surely suffer as they have no pre-eminence in the world any longer. Concerning developments that they refer to them in their boasting, all serious nations shall reach the destination of modern technology and developments if they seriously work toward them.
§ 7. HOMO SAPIENS ALBINOS DESPERATE LAST CHANCE
The scientific community had never accepted the idea that Albinos mated with primitive, ugly, and unintelligent Neanderthal tribes. It has been pointed out over and over again, so why Pablo Pääbo should get the idea that this could be a desperate attempt to refute the authentic researchers presented by Black haired and Brown eyes researchers from the “normal” and original human beings of this earth, the progenitors of the earth but not counterfeit but instead original, it is very hard to understand. Pablo thinks that we live in the 1920s where Albinos coined wrong colour “white” to refer to themselves. Let a Martian citizen come to this earth and ask him whether he would assign “white colour” to the Albinos' descendants of the planet earth. We shall never succumb to the people that had led the world through manipulation and so coaxed to see only in their perspective which deceived us to follow them in their barbaric wars that nearly brought the people of the world to their kneels. We shall never surrender to the mediocre theory formulated by the Albinos to elevate themselves alone above all others even though the facts prove us right that they possessed a disorder not the rest of us.
§ 8. CONCLUSION There are many indications that point to the fact that the Neanderthals suffered extinction because of some inherent disorder they possessed which was not obvious to us just as the Albinos' disorder was not obvious to us so they deceived the world to follow them concerning their barbaric wars on earth. Albinos suffered humiliation and frustration because the world shunned them just as their parent had earlier shunned them. The terrible situation they found themselves were only minor, if one considers the fact that they were continuously being sacrificed and killed for the gods of the original human beings. If they had not had contact with Africans, Asians and many others who surrendered their properties to them, probably they would have died or become extinct like the Neanderthals due to the barbaric wars they fought among themselves. The disorder of greed alone would have caused them to be extinct had it not been the kind and gentle demeanour shown to them by the original humans. The attempt to set themselves aside in order to continue the manipulation and cunning behaviour should be immediately impeded. Through consensus we can reduce the wars and bizarre behaviour they had shown in this world due to ignorance which the people of the world had allowed themselves to suffer.
Neanderthals were primitive human beings who had some hidden disorders that could be tied to their bizarre behaviour and extinction from the planet earth. Their conditions in the hectic weather in the Arctic were pathetic and were due to their lack of capability to develop creatively and survive on earth. If the world does not take control and allows the Albinos to alone lead the world, we shall one day find ourselves boiling in nuclear war.
Desmond Ayim-Aboagye had taught in Uppsala University in Sweden and Åbo Akademi University in Finland. He is currently Associate Professor in the latter University. Desmond is on his way to Ghana to continue teaching in one of the Universities in Ghana.
Clyde This article is a great find! It ties together many of the various pieces and shows Albinism as a major component of the white physiology. LOL, they actually believed we would not find out about their origins.
Why not create some giggles and laughs for the brothers by forwarding this proposal over to Rick Kittles requesting his response and views on this theory? I'm positive there would be much merriment generated while reading Kittle's mealy-mouthed response, shaped to maintain his relationship and pay-check.
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quote:Originally posted by the lion: also where's the African albino with straight hair and an aquiline nose?
the lion, I have a confession to make;
The story I posted is NOT true, I made it all up.
BTW - ALL of the Actors in my little story are Black Dravidians. Ya, the White ones too, they're Black Dravidian Albinos! When healthy, ALL of the actors would be the SAME COLOR - BLACK!
In human genetics, Haplogroup R is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup, a subgroup of haplogroup P, defined by the M207 mutation.
This haplogroup is believed to have arisen around 26,800 years ago, somewhere in Central Asia or South Asia, where its ancestor Haplogroup P is most often found at polymorphic frequencies. Cambridge University geneticist Kivisild et al. (2003) suggests that southern and western Asia might be the source of this haplogroup:
Given the geographic spread and STR diversities of sister clades R1 and R2, the latter of which is restricted to India, Pakistan, Iran, and southern central Asia, it is possible that southern and western Asia were the source for R1 and R1a differentiation.
The R haplogroup is common throughout Europe and western Asia and the Indian sub-continent, and in those whose ancestry is from within these regions. It also occurs in North and Sub-Saharan Africa. The distribution is markedly different for the two major subclades R1a and R1b.
Haplogroup R1a is typical in populations of Eastern Europe, Indian Subcontinent and parts of Central Asia. R1a has a significant presence in Northern Europe, Central Europe, Altaians and Iran as well as in Siberia. R1a can be found in low frequencies in the Middle East, mostly in Indo-European speakers or their descendants.
Haplogroup R1b predominates in Western Europe. R1b can be found at high frequency in Bashkortostan (Russia). R1b can be found at low frequency in Central Asia, Middle East, South Asia as well as North Africa. There is an isolated pocket of R1b in Sub Saharan Africa. In Europe, R1b coincides with areas of Celtic influence.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] Paabo appears to support Mike's Albino theory.
Albinos, Neanderthals, and the Myth of Superiority
§ 1. INTRODUCTION While the motive of other researchers of the Homo Sapiens Albinos' camp concerning the propounding of the theory of man had been energised by the ”dominance intention,” the motive of some independent researchers had been rooted from the ”fact finding” and the ”wonders of natures” intentions. Surely, there are differences between human beings, but these differences had been explained to be negligible that should not give us the course for others to elevate themselves with the intention of securing “illusory superiority” in the world. The recent work by me which had been entitled “War Psychiatry: Contemporary Theories on War Disorders and Other Related Conditions” has been successful in explaining the conditions regarding the human migration and why the Homo Sapiens Albinos got their forged “frivolous power” and “recognition” from. Of late, other scholars of different disciplines had through the inspiration given to them by my work been capable of presenting what seems to be the real and authentic history concerning human migration, and their populating of different continents of the earth.
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The above is a very silly article from Modernghana.com that is cited on the internet on only two websites. It was written by Desmond Ayim-Aboagye from Ghana who lives in Sweden .he was invited to come to Sweden to participate in a canvassing Christian ministry. with a B.A. in Theology.in 1993 with M.A., Ph.D. in Psychology of Religion. In the article from ModernGhana he mentions Svante Pääbo researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig. Paabo has been mentioned in recent articles bout Humans breding with Neanderthals. He makes no mention of Albinos. Desmond Ayim-Aboagye and ModernGhana.com simply uses the word albino generally as meaning white people to begin with previous to writing about Paabo.
Some of Desmond Ayim-Aboagye's theories:
1) The Principle of Non-Discrimination Law 2) The Theory of Alliance and Discriminology 3) The Theory of Superiority Complex 4) The Theory of Adaptability 5) The Theory of the Blood Language 6) Minutron Theory
n his book Indigenous Psychiatry, at least he has made 3 discoveries of psychiatric illnesses not known to Western scholars.
Books/Works
1) The Function of Myth in Akan Healing Experience: A Psychological Inquiry (1993) 2) Aging and Religiosity: A Sociological Investigation into the Effect of aging on the Religious Involvement Among Different Age Groups in the Church of Sweden (1996) 3) Leisure and Religion in Rural Sweden: A Sociological Perspective. (1996) 4) The Psychology of Akan Religious Healing (1997) 5) Using Christian Religious Resources in the Welfare of Prisoners: The Case of Swedish Prisons (1997) 6) Prison, Punishment and the Clergy: A Social Psychological Perspective (2006) 7) Indigenous Psychiatry: Transcultural Study of Traditional Practitioners in West African Communities (2006) 8) The Matter Man and the Theory of Adaptability: Modern Scientific Theory on Discrimination. (2006) 9) Matter Man and Motion: Scientific Theories of Modern Man and Adaptation (2007) 10) Elements of Psychological Therapy in West Africa. With Notes on Social and Psychiatric Methods. (2007)
see Amazon : Desmond Ayim-Aboagye
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quote:Originally posted by the lion: also where's the African albino with straight hair and an aquiline nose?
the lion, I have a confession to make;
The story I posted is NOT true, I made it all up.
BTW - ALL of the Actors in my little story are Black Dravidians. Ya, the White ones too, they're Black Dravidian Albinos! When healthy, ALL of the actors would be the SAME COLOR - BLACK!
the white people are albino descend theory is based on a non-sequitur, that albinos of India look like white people therefore albinism in certain Indians is white people's ancestry. Why the focus on Dravidians? Because to try to prove certain theories about black people saying Dravidians are Negroid is convenient while the very same people would not call these people black people on the street and neither would they call themselves that although they are dark skinned. Are they Negroid? I don't know. The Negroes of India? Well there goes your everybody comes out of Africa theory. Also looking at the examples of Caucasian albinos you carefully selected ones with roundish large features rather than the "classic" thin nose or also long nose. Maybe you'll find a match keep cherry picking. These Indian albinos also look a bit weird. The funny thing is just by looking we realize that they are not just blond haired white people otherwise people would say "what are you doing posting these white people" I thought you said they were Indians. anyway question, white people are Caucasian.
1) Of the following three groups, Caucasian, Mongoloid, Negroid what group do Dravidian fall into
2)and which category do non-Dravidian Indian people fall into?
3) which photos of albinos which you have posted are Dravidian and which are non-Dravidian Indian people?
4)if this red haired chick in your graphics is an early white person what happened to all that red hair? Why are there relatively few red haired white people?
have fun Mike
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Do you really think that I would waste my time on your asinine drivel?
The ONLY reason that I answered your previous question, was because it afforded me an opportunity to set up my Dravidian posts - which hopefully caught everyone by surprise.
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