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According to NOI doctrine Arabs, Blacks, Native Americans and everyone except for crackers are considered to be original people.

BTW, LMAO at Dr Khallid Muhammad

Loui" Are these hourse trossers? Would you buy this..its made from horse skin?

Khalid: No sir, I'd rather have pants made out of the white man's skin.

LMAO!

A Nazi mentality right there, making things out of human skin.

Guess what, Arab doesn't indicate race. For example that "cracker" in the video with the white skin and blond hair, he's an Arab.

so called "pale faced arab" as Dr. Khalid says

Politicians, they try to cater different folks to get "$upport" [/QB]

I knew your Lyin-ass would resort to your usual Bird Brained spams and would AVOID answering the question completely, when you man up an decide to adress the Jew issiue come at me, all the rest of your crap is irrelevent to the issiue at hand..I.E the Jewish hand in Nazism and the Holocaust.
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"Zionist factions competed for the honor of **allying** to Hitler. By 1940-41, the "Stern Gang," among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the "Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany."

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis

by LENNI BRENNER

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quote:
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A Nazi mentality right there, making things out of human skin.

The lampshade and tattooed-skin charges were made against Ilse Koch, dubbed by journalists the "Bitch of Buchenwald," who was reported to have furnished her house with objects manufactured from the tanned hides of luckless inmates.
But General Lucius Clay, military governor of the US zone of occupied Germany, who reviewed her case in 1948, told his superiors in Washington: "There is no convincing evidence that she [Ilse Koch] selected inmates for extermination in order to secure tattooed skins or that she possessed any articles made of human skin." ["Clay Explains Cut in Ilse Koch Term," The New York Times, Sept. 24, 1948, p. 3.] In an interview General Clay gave years later, he stated about the material for the infamous lampshades: "Well, it turned out actually that it was goat flesh. But at the trial it was still human flesh. It was almost impossible for her to have gotten a fair trial." [Interview with Lucius Clay, 1976, Official Proceeding of the George C. Marshall Research Foundation. Quoted in M. Weber, "Buchenwald: Legend and Reality," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87 (Vol. 7, No. 4), pp. 406-407.]


http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml

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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
"Zionist factions competed for the honor of **allying** to Hitler. By 1940-41, the "Stern Gang," among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the "Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany."

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis

by LENNI BRENNER

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Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis?
there's nothing really shocking or "explosive" here - not if you understand the true nature of this sought "collaboration." What is shocking, however, is Brenner's malevolent and false portrayal of the correspondences between the "Zionists" and the Nazis. Brenner writes about it as though he uncovered the greatest and most shocking secret in history. But to a serious historian, there's nothing really sensational about this. Simply put, it is a subject of very little value - so irrelevant that no respected scholar ever bothered writing an entire book about it. Only the likes of Brenner, a grouchy revisionist, Marxist, and self proclaimed anti-Zionist, would dare create a novelty out of this. And naturally, that's what revisionists do.

Note: By "Zionists", Brenner refers to the Stern Gang, also known as the Lehi group. Throughout the group's short lived history, it never saw more than one hundred members and did not reflect the views of mainstream Zionism.

Anyhow, this fanciful propaganda book, written by the anti-Zionist himself, contains 51 documents that are supposed to prove his thesis. But the only thing this book proves is that Brenner is in fact the anti-Zionist he claims to be, and not much more. The documents that he presents simply do not fall in place with his arguments. Instead, what we see in these documents is the Lehi group attempting to negotiate with the Nazis. This may seem very strange to some people, but such dealings are not unusual - they occur everyday in virtually every society. For example, law enforcement officers negotiate with hostage takers, drug dealers, and other criminals on a daily basis. Even though both sides make demands and promises to each other, it would be very misleading to say that they are "collaborating," especially if one thinks in terms of a partnership.

The Transfer Agreement is depicted as the result of a negotiation between equals instead of accommodation to desperate circumstance, and the effectiveness of a proposed Jewish Boycott, and the actual one, greatly exaggerated. There was a temporary convergence of aims between Nazis and Zionists of the the Stern Gang. Both wanted Jews out of Germany--but for very different reasons. Both opposed assimilation by Jews in the societies where they lived and both accordingly believed--or said they did-- that the Jews were "racially alien" to other Europeans.

Brenner's central thesis is based on his belief that the Lehi group (which he refers to as "Zionists") co-acted with the Nazis so that a Jewish state would be created in Palestine, even if that meant a genocide against the Zionists' own people - the Jews. But that's not it. For Brenner, these documents prove to be more than just a negotiation process between the two parties. He portrays it as though it was a committed alliance, in which the Nazis and Zionists in general were working together hand in hand as one unit.

In reality, the Nazis' primary objective was to destroy the Jews in Europe, one way or another - a goal they almost accomplished via "The Final Solution." Had the Zionists "collaborated" with the Nazis in Brenner's terms, the whole purpose of Zionism would have been defeated. A quick overview of history shows us that during the 1930s, the infamous "Jewish Question" was addressed in Nazi-Germany. That is, "what to do with the Jews?" Assimilate them? Segregate them? Or expel them (i.e. send them back to their land of origin, Palestine)? The Lehi group, well aware of Nazi persecution against the Jews, made efforts to persuade the Third Reich to select the third option, and for obvious reasons - so that Jews would escape from Europe's anti-Semitism and ultimately establish a Jewish state in their ancient homeland, where they would be free from persecution. In return, the Lehi group offered to help the Third Reich fight the British forces. It is true that the Nazis contemplated the thought of sending Europe's Jews back to Palestine, but that idea was never actualized.

After continuously refusing to comply with Lehi's requests, the Nazis eventually invented "The Final Solution" and sent 5-6 million Jews to their deaths in concentration camps. That's two-thirds of all European Jews, dead. Had the Nazis not been defeated, they would have killed ALL of Europe's Jews. So how could a Jewish state be created if all the Jews are dead? How can a country be built without people? The fact is, whatever negotiations passed between the two parties was strictly self-beneficial. Read these "documents" for yourself. The Nazis had absolutely no intentions of helping the Jews achieve their true objectives, or vise-versa.

To put things in better perspective, let's observe the following events: In 1933, the Roman Catholic Church signed the infamous concordat with the Nazis. Pope Pius XII even wrote Hitler a letter of congratulations in which he complimented the dictator and assured him that the Vatican entrusts in his leadership. During that era, many catholic clergymen, like Archbishop Orsenigo, Bishop Berning, Bishop Wilhelm Berning, Cardinal Theodor Innitzer, Adolf Bertram, and many others, openly supported the Nazis (even during the war). It is also well documented that after the war, many Catholic churches offered protection to Nazis and even supplied them with passports so that they could escape to South America.

Now, although one can rightfully criticize the Vatican for all of the above, including not speaking out against the Nazis and permitting Catholics to practice anti-Semitism for centuries, it would be false to say that the Roman Catholic Church "collaborated" with the Nazis to kill six million Jews. Not even the harshest critics, like, John Cornwell, author of "Hitler's Pope" would make such claims. But as you can see, any anti-Catholic person could easily assemble hundreds and even thousands of documents and contort them as he wishes to convince an uneducated person that the Vatican literally collaborated with the Nazis to exterminate the Jews. The Vatican did "collaborate" to a certain degree with the Nazis in political terms, and so did a tiny radical Zionist group called Lehi - but not the way Brenner wants you to believe.

The problem with "new scholars" and revisionists like Brenner is that their research is based primarily on their personal beliefs and political agendas and not on historical evidence. Their beliefs become the main emphasis and actual historical facts become immaterial. Revisionists simply do not have any sensible scholarship principals. An honest historian would never incorporate personal beliefs with facts. Doing so would simply result in creating - as in Brenner's case - a work of fiction.

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anguish you sound like you have something personal in your background that makes you hate Jews as much as you do. Some Jew must have done you wrong somewhere. please tell us about it instead copying other people's propaganda

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Note: By "Zionists", Brenner refers to the Stern Gang, also known as the Lehi group. Throughout the group's short lived history, it never saw more than one hundred members and did not reflect the views of mainstream Zionism.
And despite this the Israelis elected pro-Nazi Yitzhak Shamir. [Roll Eyes]
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The Transfer Agreement is depicted as the result of a negotiation between equals
Yes, it was not one of equals: "At the time, some Jewish leaders either doubted the power of the anti-Nazi movement or were unwilling to participate. The failure to participate worked to Hitler's advantage, because the Jewish-led, world-wide anti-nazi boycott was indeed the one weapon Hitler feared." - [Edwin Black, in The Transfer Agreement]
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Both wanted Jews out of Germany
Ironic, since according to the Holocaust story, Hitler was a crazed anti-Jew who, from Mein Kamf days, wanted to exterminate the Jews of Europe. Helping them to migrate contradicts this tale. [Roll Eyes]
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Brenner's central thesis is based on his belief that the Lehi group (which he refers to as "Zionists")
So they werent Zionists? lol
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A quick overview of history shows us that during the 1930s, the infamous "Jewish Question" was addressed in Nazi-Germany. That is, "what to do with the Jews?" Assimilate them? Segregate them? Or expel them (i.e. send them back to their land of origin, Palestine)?
Why would Nazis debate what to do with Jews in 1930s when Hitler was suppose to have made up his mind from 1925? [Eek!]
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The Lehi group, well aware of Nazi persecution against the Jews, made efforts to persuade the Third Reich to select the third option,
And this is not "mainstream Zionism"?! LOL It **wasn't** only the Lehi that "made efforts to persuade the Third Reich to select the third option". And again, if Hitler was a crazed anti-Jew who wanted to exterminate the Jews of Europe, how could Jews persuade him to help them migrate! [Eek!]
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It is true that the Nazis contemplated the thought of sending Europe's Jews back to Palestine, but that idea was never actualized.
Lie. Zionism and the Third Reich

I really dont have to go further at this point since this **obvious lie** undermines the entire diatribe against Brenner.
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The problem with "new scholars" and revisionists like Brenner is that their research is based primarily on their personal beliefs and political agendas and not on historical evidence.
This is called projecting... [Roll Eyes]
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LMAO at The weak Kitten taking yet another mental beat down.
The fool is an intellectual masochist having sunk to the sub-level of Hammer, completely devoid of the capability of simple logic.

LOL, Jews!

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"We must study Dr Ben. We Must study Dr Clarke. We must study Dr Cheikh anta Diop. We Must study Dr Ivan Sertima. "

Dr Khallid Muhammad on police brutality.


This is more than enough to prove Dr Khallid Muhammad was not a fundamentalist NOI member because Dr Clarke and Dr Ben's teachings were not even compatible with some of Elijah Muhammad's teachings.

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Dr Khallid Muhammad is truly an example of critical thinking with applied African nationalist ideology.
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quote:
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Dr Khallid Muhammad is truly an example of critical thinking with applied African nationalist ideology.

in other words a black nazi
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he he he

may I suggest some mecuricome?

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Wisdom from Dr. Khallid Muhammad.

When it's Swindler's list, they call it Schindler's List. They said that they would move into the Government, manipulate it from behind the scenes, manipulate Congress, manipulate the White House, manipulate the political process, manipulate affirmative action, welfare reform, all of the things that you thought would save you. . . ."

San Francisco State University, May 21, 1997
"The Federal Reserve is privately owned and a so-called Jew controls the Federal Reserve. . . . Talking about the National Debt, the Federal Debt, someone should ask, well who the hell do we owe. . . . And who in the world has that much money that we would get in debt with them. . . . Who are the rich power brokers behind the scenes?. . . Why is the Federal Reserve controlled by the so-called Jew?"

San Francisco State University, May 21, 1997

"Our entertainers, our basketball players, our football players, our track stars, our baseball players, our entertainers and athletes are in the palm of the white Zionist Jew's hand. . . . "

San Francisco State University, May 21, 1997


"Who are the slumlords in the Black community? The so-called Jews. . . . Who is it sucking our blood in the Black community? A white imposter Arab and a white imposter Jew."

Kean College, NJ, November 29, 1993


It's that old no-good Jew, that old imposter Jew, that old hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, Johnny-come-lately perpetrating a fraud, just crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe, so-called damn Jew. . . and I feel everything I'm saying up here is kosher."

Baltimore, MD, February 19, 1994

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CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT THESE JEWS WROTE ABOUT OUR GREAT BLACK HERO?


DEATH OF BLACK BIGOT ENDS LIFE OF HATRED

WASHINGTON — Khalid Abdul Muhammad died an angry man.

The one-time member of the Nation of Islam and retro leader of the New Black Panther Party passed away Saturday in an Atlanta hospital. The clinical cause of his death is thought to have been a ruptured brain aneurysm, but I suspect Muhammad was overcome by the hatred he spewed. "I was born to give the white man hell," Muhammad said during a 1995 speech. "And I will give him hell from the cradle to the grave."

While it's not certain when the fiery black nationalist — who was born Harold Moore Jr. in 1948 — first turned his wrath on whites, it's clear he took his rabid dislike of them to the grave. Those who mourn his passing view Muhammad as something of a black messiah. Fortunately their numbers are small.

Khalid Abdul Muhammad was a bigot. When it came to whites and Jews, he didn't see individuals; he saw a monolith. Just as white racists lump all African Americans together, Muhammad crammed all whites and Jews into a single cubbyhole. He is best remembered for the 1993 speech he gave at a New Jersey college.


In that racist tirade, Muhammad lashed out at whites, Jews and the black athletes and politicians he accused of being their puppets.

Muhammad referred to the pope as a "no-good cracker" and called on all whites to leave South Africa voluntarily within 24 hours of the outcome of the 1994 election that made Nelson Mandela that country's first black president. If they didn't, Muhammad said they should be massacred. "We kill the babies. We kill the blind. We kill the crippled," he urged. Following this outburst, Muhammad was fired from his position as national spokesman for the Nation of Islam. Several months later, Muhammad was at it again.


"Never will I say I am not an anti-Semite," Muhammad told an audience in Baltimore in February 1998. "Whatever he (the Jew) is, goddamn it, I'm against him. I pray for my enemy all the time. I pray that God will kill my enemy and take him off the face of the planet Earth."
Weeks later during a speech at Howard University, Muhammad lauded the actions of Colin Ferguson, a deranged black man who killed five whites and an Asian on a Long Island Rail Road train in 1993. Ferguson was simply doing God's will, he said caustically.

"Catch the train. Catch the train," Muhammad told students God had commanded the crazed gunman.

In the few years since this glut of hateful talk thrust Muhammad into the national spotlight, he quickly sunk back into the bog where David Duke and the legions of the Aryan Nation dwell. He surfaced briefly in Dallas during a 1996 public school controversy and advocated the creation of a separate school system for black students in that city.

By that time Muhammad had morphed into the leader of the New Black Panther Party, a black-nationalist organization loosely patterned after the 1960s-era group led by Huey Newton and Eldridge Cleaver. But unlike the old Panthers, the organization Muhammad commanded attracted few followers and scant attention.

The first Million Youth March he organized in 1998 drew about 6,000 people. The following year the next one he called attracted a third as many people. Muhammad's last Million Youth March was attended by barely 100 people.

By the time he was admitted to an Atlanta hospital last week, Muhammad's comings and goings — and his venomous talk — hardly made the radar of those who monitor this nation's hatemongers.

But a hatemonger he was.

"I am a truth terrorist," Muhammad once said of himself. "I am a knowledge gangster. I am a history of black hit man. You better watch out. I'm going to be a roughneck."

More accurately, Muhammad was the flip side to Bull Connor. The alter ego of a grand dragon. He was the mirror's image of generations of white bigots who irrationally painted all African Americans with a single broad, racist stroke. And as with the passing of all of his white counterparts, I offer Khalid Abdul Muhammad a simple eulogy. Good riddance.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/wickham/2001-02-19-wickham.htm


Are we going to stand for them disgracing our great black leader?

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quote:
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[Zionism and the Third Reich


I read the above.
Jewish underground Zionist group Lehi, also known as the "Stern Gang" in secret contacts offered cooperation to the Nazis in sabotage, espionage and intelligence and up to wide military operations in the Middle East and in eastern Europe anywhere where they had Jewish cells in return for full recognition of an independent Jewish state in Palestine, an ability to emigrate to Palestine for all Jews, with no restriction of numbers. This offer of collaboration was sent in 1941 to the German Naval attache in Ankara and forwarded through German embassy to Berlin but found no response from the Nazis.In secret contacts with German representatives at Beirut the group offered to open up a military front against the British in the Middle East in return for the expulsion (rather than extermination) of the Jewish population of Europe to Palestine.

This sounds to me like a disparate attempt, them saying they would assist the Nazis in order their nationalistic aims to form a sovereign state and create a haven to escape extermination.
Is it fair to say from this "the Jews supported the Nazis"? Obviously once such a state was formed they would no longer be able to support the Germans who would rather see them "exterminated".
The Zionists wanted to gas themselves?

Anyone can see that the Stern gang had no innate interest in Nazi goals and that the Nazis hated them.The zionists thought creating a state in Palestine, the home of their religion, was the best solution for Jews and they were dealing with a very powerful German war machine who had no problem when deportations weren't moving fast enough to just kill them all.
I'm not saying their nationalist solution was wrong or right but to say they were pals with the Nazis is stupid. I think it was smart this cooperation deal. If people are bent on killing you you might tell them what you think they want to hear.
So now 70 years later you will use this to say the Jews are Nazis.
How can you say this when you and the Nazis both would like to kill them all?

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quote:
Is it fair to say from this "the Jews supported the Nazis"?
Who is saying this?
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In secret contacts with German representatives at Beirut the group offered to open up a military front against the British in the Middle East in return for the expulsion (rather than extermination) of the Jewish population of Europe to Palestine.
Recap: if Hitler was a crazed anti-Jew who wanted to exterminate the Jews of Europe, how could Jews persuade him to help them migrate?! [Eek!]
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... a very powerful German war machine who had no problem when deportations weren't moving fast enough to just kill them all.
So Hitler hadn't decided to "just kill them all" in 1925?
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If people are bent on killing you you might tell them what you think they want to hear.
So the Lehi told the Nazis about emigration because they thought Nazis (who supposedly wanted to exterminate the Jews) wanted to hear this?!?!? [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]
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the Germans who would rather see them "exterminated".
So why did they entertain a Jewish emigration proposal? [Eek!]
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This sounds to me like a disparate [sic] attempt, them saying they would assist the Nazis in order their nationalistic aims to form a sovereign state and create a haven to escape extermination.
So they thought the Nazis, who supposedly were **hell bent** on exterminating the Jews, would help them create a Jewish state so Jews could escape extermination!? [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]
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quote:
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quote:
Is it fair to say from this "the Jews supported the Nazis"?
Who is saying this?
quote:
In secret contacts with German representatives at Beirut the group offered to open up a military front against the British in the Middle East in return for the expulsion (rather than extermination) of the Jewish population of Europe to Palestine.
Recap: if Hitler was a crazed anti-Jew who wanted to exterminate the Jews of Europe, how could Jews persuade him to help them migrate?! [Eek!]
quote:
... a very powerful German war machine who had no problem when deportations weren't moving fast enough to just kill them all.
So Hitler hadn't decided to "just kill them all" in 1925?
quote:
If people are bent on killing you you might tell them what you think they want to hear.
So the Lehi told the Nazis about emigration because they thought Nazis (who wanted to exterminate the Jews) wanted to hear this?!?!? [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]
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the Germans who would rather see them "exterminated".
So why did they entertain a Jewish emigration proposal? [Eek!]

The Nazis wanted Jews out of Germany by any means possible. They didn't care which method, whichever they thought would be quickest at the time, no remorse if it was to be mass murder. They had debates on which methods would be most efficient at a given time, including what they could politically get away with in earlier stages. Later they came up with poison gas which was a lot faster and easier and more permanent than emigration and deportation. Also it's easier to get the rank and file average German to participate in mass killings in later stages when the whole hysteria of war is underway. The rest is history. They also used Jews as slaves in factories to support their war effort.
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Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
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Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:
this is another crack-pot conspiracy theory of scapegoating. The fact of the mater is at least 90% of the US government was and is non-Jewish and Ted Kennedy started massive non-White immigration so it's impossible that the Jews are to blame more than you… Even if Jews have a higher rate of supporting this it has no effect on the overall scheme of things because they're 2% of the population.

So then, based on your logic, whites dont control the ANC government in SA since whites (including white Jews) are a monitory? Do you want a minute to take your foot out of your mouth? [Roll Eyes]
Your right brother. I made an incorrect statement. Crackers certainly control the ANC in South Africa.
Global, I like the way you switched up the word there trying to patronize the David Duke supporter from Germany, you sucker
think carefully when you ASSUME "brother"

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quote:
The Germans wanted Jews out of Germany by any means possible.
You mean they weren't **hell bent** on extermination? I thought you said this? And I thought Nazis were a bunch of crazies inspired by their leader who got it in his head to exterminate the Jews from as far back as 1925? [Eek!]
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They didn't care which method,
Even if it meant helping to create a Jewish state that would serve to help Jews to escape extermination, which they were **hell bent** on? [Eek!]
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Later they came up with poison gas which was a lot faster and easier and more permanent than emigration and deportation.
Oh really? When did they "come up" with poison gas as a "faster and easier and more permanent than emigration and deportation"? Dates please.
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Give it up KITTEN.
It is common knowledge that the Nazis offered to relocate the Jews to Kenya and Argentina at $100 per person but the Zionist refused and told them to do what they would with them.
The Zionist wanted Israel and knew that if they got Hitler to kill a few million Jews they could get Israel and pretend to be descendants of original black middle-eastern Jews.

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I see what you guys are saying. The Nazis were just trying to be helpful to the Jews.

Wow, history got it all wrong

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hehehehe

perhaps some iodine?

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I apologize for hitting The Lioness. Sorry bitch, didnt mean to do it.

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Lioness you seem a little emotionally attached to this subject, whats wrong you married to someone who you thought was a Jew..LMAO..

Please tell us..

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Yes, normally she would have started a thread about the merits of the holocaust story by now. But she seems to have thrown in the towel rather early on this one. lol

Stop entertaining white Jews in your bed bitch.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:


Your right brother. I made an incorrect statement. Crackers certainly control the ANC in South Africa.
I disagree with this.THERE might be some influences but that's different from control from my point of view.but every country on earth influences each these days,so it's hard to get away from each other modern influences these days because the world is so global now,even china has some influences from the west and the west influences from other parts of the world.the west is becoming less and less powerful again.
anyway that's my point of view and i will leave it at that.

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^ When I was reading through the archives of Egypt Search Forum...i saw your name.... weren't you the dude who got his ass kicked in a debate with Doug like 4 years ago? Damn shame you haven't grown in intellect since then...........
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quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:
I disagree with this.THERE might be some influences but that's different from control from my point of view.but every country on earth influences each these days,so it's hard to get away from each other modern influences these days because the world is so global now,even china has some influences from the west and the west influences from other parts of the world.the west is becoming less and less powerful again.
anyway that's my point of view and i will leave it at that.

In a sense you're arguing semantics. Whether you say "influence" or "control" or "disproportionate influence", the fact is, whites in SA still call the shots.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
I see what you guys are saying. The Nazis were just trying to be helpful to the Jews.

Wow, history got it all wrong

The Zionists were of course in bed with Hitler.

The German Jews were integrating too well into the German population, and while the Zionists had their plans to take over Palestine - nobody wanted to go there and fight Arabs.

It was like saying: "hey, we've got this nice plan for Antarctica, won't you and your family come with us and colonize the place?".

Of course the Jews preferred to live in Germany.
So the Zionists and international bankers funded Hitler into power, who promised to help them.

After he became chancellor, he forbade all Jewish newspapers - except one, you guessed it: the Zionist's fringe paper.

Hitler even made contracts to sell German goods below their actual worth to Zionist companies in Palestine, called the "transfer agreement", which made them even richer and funded lots of the Palestine projects.

The Nazis never wanted to exterminate ANY JEWS, they just wanted to freak them out enough to leave willingly or forced on trains.

The whole Jewish extermination Holocaust is a big fat lie.
The Jews were put into CONCENTRATION CAMPS to prepare them being shipped out of the country on trains, but the war prevented this, and AFAIK the British and their allies didn't allow it also.

The camps were designed as holdup-camps, and later as work-camps.
Germany always had a major Problem with fuel. They hardly have oil and gas, and had to rely to synthesize coal into oil, or to drive their trucks with coal. They could never afford to gas and cremate 6 Million people ,because it's takes a frakkin near impossible load of coal to do that in the first place.

People died in camps because of Typhus and later, at the final stages of the war, lack of food, caused by the British bombing all the railroads that supplied the camps.

The Rest is nothing but Allied Propaganda created to de-nazify the proud German population.
The only gas-chambers that are still claimed to have gassed anybody were on Soviet occupied soil, so naturally nobody could go there and check it out. According to the Jewish Holocaust Museum's Lead guy for History (Dr. Franticek Piper) - he said (recorded on videotape) - that the Germans actually rebuilt the Gaschamber at Auschwitz into an Airraid-shelter at the end, so the Soviets had to re-rebuild it into a gaschamber (lol).

Fact is, not a single of the countless aerial surveillance photos of any of these camps show a gas-chamber for killing humans.

Germans even had a gas-chamber for DELOUSING clothes (that's acknowledged by everyone even the Jewish holocaust museum)- to SAVE lives of prisoners. That's what they used Cyclon-B for, which was used to disinfect clothes and train-cars WORLDWIDE before the invention of DDT.

Here's a nice film about what really lead to WW2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654#

called: the final solution to Adolf Hitler

There are also 2 documentaries about the Holocaust Fraud, called One Third Of The Holocaust and Buchenwald you can find them on google, but I think they took down the website that had them on. With some luck it will be online again.

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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:
I disagree with this.THERE might be some influences but that's different from control from my point of view.but every country on earth influences each these days,so it's hard to get away from each other modern influences these days because the world is so global now,even china has some influences from the west and the west influences from other parts of the world.the west is becoming less and less powerful again.
anyway that's my point of view and i will leave it at that.

In a sense you're arguing semantics. Whether you say "influence" or "control" or "disproportionate influence", the fact is, whites in SA still call the shots.
incorrect
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Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
the fact is, whites in SA still call the shots.

quote:Originally posted by kenndo:
incorrect

please explain

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I had to edited and put some stuff in,LINKS ETC..

OH,SCREW YOU.
AND GET THIS IN YOU THICK SKULL. I WRITE SO YOU COULD UNDERSTAND.BESIDES I AM NOT ONLINE CHAT PERSON,I KEPT SAYING THIS.NOTHING IS WRONG IN WHAT IS I HAD TO SAY OR HOW I WRITE IT,just read the damn point.

I accidently READ YOU REPLY,BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN,BECAUSE I WHEN BACK TO EDITED. it seems you have nothing to do,because you reply so quickly.


quote:
Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:
^ When I was reading through the archives of Egypt Search Forum...i saw your name.... weren't you the dude who got his ass kicked in a debate with Doug like 4 years ago? Damn shame you haven't grown in intellect since then...........

I guess you mention doug's name because he is your hero in victimhood.

he kick no one ass. doug and folks like him see whites has lord and master of everything,and of course that's complete non-sense.anyway WHEN I speak to folks like you,i don't care if you are pro african are or not. your mindset is to negative.

i said what i had to say to doug and he knows,i even send him emails.

anyway i finished with him in private.

see i am not a public whore,and just because someone gets last word does not make them right.in fact in the last thread,i got the last word.

i do not go on and on and on like girl.i have work to do.i say what i have to say,and that's it.

i say that in advance that i am done with the topic,once i reply.what the hell you expect me to do?sit around the computer all day chatting away.


you mindset and folks that think like you are a complete waste of time. i came here to read what you have to say and you make good points when it comes to the white mindset.i did not came to fight with you,i just disagreed strongly on that white controls everything non-sense.but all no,you have to attack. could you not say i disagree with you and leave at that,but you have to bring up,kicking butts and all this other crap.

you piss me of,so i am done with you.


ANYWAY I AM FINISH WITH YOU AND THIS THREAD,BUT I GUESS YOU MAY HAVE THE LAST WORD,but then in words you kicked my butt just because i did not reply.you can't kick someones butt if they did not read what you have to say.i never read doug's last words, so him kicking my butt does not count if i did not read it.and if you don't know me,it counts even less. so what ever you say about this topic if you reply to me,will not count to me because i will not go on to read.no wonder folks post less here. to many wackos,nobody is really serious here anymore. Dr Khallid Muhammad,would disagree with you has well,most likely .whites in south africa talk about they have no power,about over 1 million have left.

now they do have some power, they go overboard with they do not have any power,so do alot of blacks in the west go over board,saying blacks have no power anywhere.african are in control of south africa. ask the average south african.i knew of black talk show host who are pro black that went there and believe me.black are in control of south africa,so stop being a arm chair afro-centric and travel for once. speak to folks who live outside of america.

i am blame america for this to a point,they mess up your mind,but it is you duty to get out of negative mindset,because the white man is not going to help you. you are no different then the stormfront guys you say blacks have done nothing in south africa or anywhere else and it's the white man that has done this and that.non-sense.

reject from white racist and i reject that negative mindset from black losers.becaus it's wrong and incorrect no matter who.


Ask him,he will say whites do not control him.some of you afro-centric folks give true afro-centrics a bad name.

to tell you truth,folks like you are not really afro-centric.I do not know what to call you.


i post here sometimes. learn what going in the world and so stop being so americancentric,because believe me,most black are moving on worldwide,and do not see themselves has losers.i don't talk or hang with losers. i gues there are other types of afro-centric folks,losers and those who feel they have the power.
the same power that kick the british butt in kenya.i hope you get where i am coming from,because if not,too BAD.

this remind me i do not get my news from chat rooms,and get from the source,and the stats has well.

learn is going on and let these images and facts speak for themselves.
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Ethiopia has launched an electric car, despite suffering from power shortages. It is only the second African country to do so, after South Africa. Two versions of the Solaris Elettra will be manufactured in Addis Ababa, costing around $12,000 and $15,000. The cars will be sold in Ethiopia and exported to Africa ... Read More

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quote:
Originally posted by TheHorsenation:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
I see what you guys are saying. The Nazis were just trying to be helpful to the Jews.

Wow, history got it all wrong

The Zionists were of course in bed with Hitler.

The German Jews were integrating too well into the German population, and while the Zionists had their plans to take over Palestine - nobody wanted to go there and fight Arabs.

It was like saying: "hey, we've got this nice plan for Antarctica, won't you and your family come with us and colonize the place?".

Of course the Jews preferred to live in Germany.
So the Zionists and international bankers funded Hitler into power, who promised to help them.

After he became chancellor, he forbade all Jewish newspapers - except one, you guessed it: the Zionist's fringe paper.

Hitler even made contracts to sell German goods below their actual worth to Zionist companies in Palestine, called the "transfer agreement", which made them even richer and funded lots of the Palestine projects.

The Nazis never wanted to exterminate ANY JEWS, they just wanted to freak them out enough to leave willingly or forced on trains.

The whole Jewish extermination Holocaust is a big fat lie.
The Jews were put into CONCENTRATION CAMPS to prepare them being shipped out of the country on trains, but the war prevented this, and AFAIK the British and their allies didn't allow it also.

The camps were designed as holdup-camps, and later as work-camps.
Germany always had a major Problem with fuel. They hardly have oil and gas, and had to rely to synthesize coal into oil, or to drive their trucks with coal. They could never afford to gas and cremate 6 Million people ,because it's takes a frakkin near impossible load of coal to do that in the first place.

People died in camps because of Typhus and later, at the final stages of the war, lack of food, caused by the British bombing all the railroads that supplied the camps.

The Rest is nothing but Allied Propaganda created to de-nazify the proud German population.
The only gas-chambers that are still claimed to have gassed anybody were on Soviet occupied soil, so naturally nobody could go there and check it out. According to the Jewish Holocaust Museum's Lead guy for History (Dr. Franticek Piper) - he said (recorded on videotape) - that the Germans actually rebuilt the Gaschamber at Auschwitz into an Airraid-shelter at the end, so the Soviets had to re-rebuild it into a gaschamber (lol).

Fact is, not a single of the countless aerial surveillance photos of any of these camps show a gas-chamber for killing humans.

Germans even had a gas-chamber for DELOUSING clothes (that's acknowledged by everyone even the Jewish holocaust museum)- to SAVE lives of prisoners. That's what they used Cyclon-B for, which was used to disinfect clothes and train-cars WORLDWIDE before the invention of DDT.

Here's a nice film about what really lead to WW2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654#

called: the final solution to Adolf Hitler

There are also 2 documentaries about the Holocaust Fraud, called One Third Of The Holocaust and Buchenwald you can find them on google, but I think they took down the website that had them on. With some luck it will be online again.

Dude don't waste your time, too many Psudo-Scholars here thinking they are educated don't want to accept the truth. Hell if it had been Africans as the Nazis doing the Holocaust you can bet your ass they would believe that the Nazis were not the sole responibility, but because its white Gentiles(Germans) these psudo scholars will believe it and push the Zionist Lies. These people are emotionally tied to this.
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quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:
quote:
Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:
^ When I was reading through the archives of Egypt Search Forum...i saw your name.... weren't you the dude who got his ass kicked in a debate with Doug like 4 years ago? Damn shame you haven't grown in intellect since then...........

I guess you mention doug's name because he is your hero in victimhood.

he kick no one ass. doug and folks like him see whites has lord and master of everything,and of course that's complete non-sense.anyway i speak to folks like you,i don't care if you are pro african are or not.i said what i had to say to doug and he knows,i even send him emails.

anyway i finished with him in private.

see i am not a public whore,and just because someone

gets that last word does not make them right.in fact in the last thread,i got the last word.

i do not go on and on and on like girl.i have work to do.i say what i have to say,and that's it.
you mindset and folks that think like you are a complete wast of time. i came here to read what you have to say and you make good points when it comes to the white mindset.i did not came to fight with,i just disagreed strongly on that white controls everything non-sense.

ANYWAY I AM FINISH WITH YOU AND THIS THREAD,BUT I GUESS YOU MAY HAVE THE LAST WORD,but then in words you kicked my butt just because i did not reply.you can't kick someones butt if they did not read what you have to say.i never read doug's last words, so him kicking my butt does not count if i did not read it.and if you don't know me,it counts even less. so what ever you say about this topic if you reply to me,will not count to me because i will not go on to read.no wonder folks post less here. to many wackos,nobody is really serious here anymore. Dr Khallid Muhammad,would disagree with you has well,most likely .

Ask him,he will say whites do not control him.some of you afro-centric folks give true afro-centrics a bad name.

to tell you truth,folks like you are not really afro-cemtric.I do not know what to call you.


bye bye,don't bother to reply,because i will not read it.

Did you drop out of school in 3rd grade? Why do you write so simplistically? Are you twelve years old? And why are you catching a hissy fit over the internet?
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he's worse than a simpleton, thats why he keeps running - like this bitch below
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bitch get back on your feet and explain yourself.

When did they "come up" with poison gas as a "faster and easier and more permanent than emigration and deportation"? Dates please.

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quote:
Originally posted by kenndo:
I had to edited and put some stuff in,LINKS ETC..

OH,SCREW YOU.
AND GET THIS IN YOU THICK SKULL. I WRITE SO YOU COULD UNDERSTAND.AND NO I DO NOT WRITE LIKE A 3RD GRADER,MAYBE YOU DO.

BESIDES I AM NOT ONLINE CHAT PERSON,I KEPT SAYING THIS.NOTHING IS WRONG IN WHAT IS I HAD TO SAY OR HOW I WRITE IT,just read the damn point.

I did not mean to read your REPLY,it was a Accident and IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.I put in some new info at the bottom.


It seems you have nothing to do,because you replyed so quickly.


quote:
Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:
^ When I was reading through the archives of Egypt Search Forum...i saw your name.... weren't you the dude who got his ass kicked in a debate with Doug like 4 years ago? Damn shame you haven't grown in intellect since then...........

I guess you mention doug's name because he is your hero in victimhood.

he kick no one ass. doug and folks like him see whites has lord and master of everything,and of course that's complete non-sense.anyway WHEN I speak to folks like you,i don't care if you are pro african are or not. your mindset is to negative.

i said what i had to say to doug and he knows,i even send him emails.

anyway i finished with him in private.

see i am not a public whore,and just because someone gets last word does not make them right.in fact in the last thread,i got the last word.

I do not go on and on and on like girl.i have work to do.i say what i have to say,and that's it.

I say that in advance that i am done with the topic,once i reply.what the hell you expect me to do?sit around the computer all day chatting away.


Your mindset and folks that think like you are a complete waste of time. i came here to read what you have to say and you make good points when it comes to the white mindset.i did not came to fight with you,i just disagreed strongly on that white controls everything non-sense.but all no,you have to attack. could you not say i disagree with you and leave at that,but you have to bring up,kicking butts and all this other crap.

you piss me of,so i am done with you.


ANYWAY I AM FINISH WITH YOU AND THIS THREAD,BUT I GUESS YOU MAY HAVE THE LAST WORD,but then in words you kicked my butt just because i did not reply.you can't kick someones butt if they did not read what you have to say.i never read doug's last words, so him kicking my butt does not count if i did not read it.and if you don't know me,it counts even less. so what ever you say about this topic if you reply to me,will not count to me because i will not go on to read.no wonder folks post less here. to many wackos,nobody is really serious here anymore. Dr Khallid Muhammad,would disagree with you has well,most likely .whites in south africa talk about they have no power,about over 1 million have left.

now they do have some power, they go overboard with they do not have any power,so do alot of blacks in the west go over board,saying blacks have no power anywhere.african are in control of south africa. ask the average south african.i knew of black talk show host who are pro black that went there and believe me.black are in control of south africa,so stop being a arm chair afro-centric and travel for once. speak to folks who live outside of america.

i am blame america for this to a point,they mess up your mind,but it is you duty to get out of negative mindset,because the white man is not going to help you. you are no different then the stormfront guys you say blacks have done nothing in south africa or anywhere else and it's the white man that has done this and that.non-sense.

reject from white racist and i reject that negative mindset from black losers.becaus it's wrong and incorrect no matter who.


Ask him,he will say whites do not control him.some of you afro-centric folks give true afro-centrics a bad name.

to tell you truth,folks like you are not really afro-centric.I do not know what to call you.


i post here sometimes. learn what going in the world and so stop being so americancentric,because believe me,most black are moving on worldwide,and do not see themselves has losers.i don't talk or hang with losers. i gues there are other types of afro-centric folks,losers and those who feel they have the power.
the same power that kick the british butt in kenya.i hope you get where i am coming from,because if not,too BAD.

this remind me i do not get my news from chat rooms,and get from the source,and the stats has well.

learn is going on and let these images and facts speak for themselves.
blacks really are rising.


Ethiopia launches electric car despite power shortages
Ethiopia has launched an electric car, despite suffering from power shortages. It is only the second African country to do so, after South Africa. Two versions of the Solaris Elettra will be manufactured in Addis Ababa, costing around $12,000 and $15,000. The cars will be sold in Ethiopia and exported to Africa ... Read More

http://www.goodnewsafrica.net/


Threads in Forum : Photo Galleries

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=957

this Page Africa
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=372


Home | Africa The Good News
http://www.africagoodnews.com/

south africa the good news
http://www.sagoodnews.co.za/


this really is my last time posting her anyway and reading anything.if i have to read, i read a book and check a few websites.i think i will stick more to egyptsearch reloaded for some info and other sources.

bye bye,don't bother to reply,because i will not read it.

I have MY AFRICAN -CENTRED BOOKS TO READ THEN TO WASTE MORE TIME WITH THOSE WHO TRY TO BRING ME DOWN.


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Global, I know you have a gap in your education but let me help you out. A cracker is anyone from Georgia, USA. In fact for years Atlanta had a minor league baseball team called the Crackers. It does not appy to a person from any other state other than Georgia.

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I thought a cracker was someone who sells crack?

note to idiots, see Septimius thread, don't be impatient, give anguish time to respond

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness:
[QB] I thought a cracker was someone who sells crack?


No, that is a crack dealer. Once again you thought wrong!

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The problem in the black community isn't with the crack it's with the cracker.

Dr Khallid Muhammad vs Sean Hannity Interview

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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Yes, normally she would have started a thread about the merits of the holocaust story by now. But she seems to have thrown in the towel rather early on this one. lol

Stop entertaining white Jews in your bed bitch.

Havent you at one time even claim to be a Jew?

Or was that Jari-Judah?

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quote:
Originally posted by IslamicCrusader:
Havent you at one time even claim to be a Jew?

^ wrong person.
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Originally posted by the lioness:

How much time do you want to respond? Will we ever get an answer from you? [Wink]

When did they "come up" with poison gas as a "faster and easier and more permanent than emigration and deportation"? Dates please.
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anguish of being an aszhole if you think this topic of the Holocaust or in your opinion, lack thereof, from your computer located in Germany, be a man and create a new thread on this topic instead of cropping up like a hyperactive child in unrelated threads.

LOL! This bitch who is known for OT trolling all of a sudden is concerned about unrelated topics. LOL!
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quote:
Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:
The problem in the black community isn't with the crack it's with the cracker.

Dr Khallid Muhammad vs Sean Hannity Interview

what do you think is the best way we can deal with the cracker problem? Please give practical realistical possible solutions rather than emotionalism, theatrics and things that will never happen.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
and things that will never happen.

Like scientific proof of the "holocau$t"?

"taking everything into account, one is forced to admit -- even if it is "as painful to say as it is to hear" -- that the well-known "testimonies" are not sufficient proof of wartime homicidal gas chambers, and that it is simply not possible to prove, scientifically, that the homicidal gas chambers actually existed." - Jacques Baynac (no holocaust denier) [Big Grin]

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