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Clyde Winters
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The origin of the Semitic speakers is very important. The archaeological and textual evidence make it clear that Mesopotamia was the not homeland of the Semitic speakers. This evidence make it clear that the first settlers of this area spoke Sumerian and Ubadian, not Semitic.

The first Semites to leave textual evidence are the Akkadians. The Akkadians and the Ethio-Semitic languages have shared archaism. This feature indicates the ancient morphology and grammar of a Semitic language. We can infer that if this was the norm for the most ancient form of Semitic, other Semitic languages possessing this character probably are closely related to the original spoken/written Semitic language. We can further infer that since Ethio-Semitic, possesses these linguistic characteristics, and other Semitic languages such as Hebrew and Arabic do not, the later languages must be relatively young in age.


The historical evidence support an old presence of Ethio-Semitic in Africa. For example, the Axumite Empire was founded by the Habashan. the habashan are mentioned in a 3rd or 4th century Himyarite inscription from South Arabia, which refers to an alliance between Gadarat King of the Habashan or Habashat.

Some of the people of Punt were probably Tigrinya speakers, who call their language habesha, i.e., Abyssinian par excellence. The term Habesh, seems to represent an old name for Abyssinia and may be connected with the Amharic word washa 'cave or cavern', and may refer to the" cave dwellers" who once served as the principal traders along the Ethiopian coast. The ability of the Ethiopians as sailors, is supported by the title bahr nagash, "ruler of the maritime province" or Eritrea.

In addition, some of the earliest Sabean/Thamudic inscriptions have been found in Ethiopia, and not South Arabia. For example, Dr. Doresse has found Sabean cursive writing on a sceptre that indicates that the Habashat/Axumite empire had writing.

These Habashan are mentioned in Egyptian inscriptions of the 18th Dynasty (1709-1320) in connection to the land of Punt. Given the Egyptian association of the Habashan with Punt, I call the speakers of the Ethio-Semitic languages: Puntites. We have Egyptian evidence of trade missions to Punt as early as PepiII in 2400 BC and Mentuholep IV and IV. The vizier Amenemhat, of Mentuholep IV is said to have established a port near Safaga. the most famous mission to Punt was sent by Queen Hatshepsut, and is recorded at deir el Bahri. Since the Habashan are mentioned in Egyptian documents they were in existence long before the Arabic speakers.

The evidence of shared archaism for Akkadian and Ethio-Semitic indicate that the speakers of these languages probably shared many linguistic features when they separated. It also suggest that thespeakers of these languages probably separated in Africa, since the Ethio-Semitic speakers have long been established in their present home, as supported by the Egyptian inscriptions. The Ethio-Semitic speakers have maintained these features due to the relative stability of these languages. You can find out more about the stability of African languages in my article "Linguistic Continuity and African and Dravidian languages", International Journal of Dravidian Linguistics, 23 (2), (1996) 34-52. We must conclude that the Semitic languages originated in Africa.

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To understand the history of the Semitic people we have to look at the history of the so-called children of Cush—the Kushites. According to George Rawlinson in The Origin of Nations observed that the Kushite and Egyptian name for king according to Manetho was hyk or hak as in the well known term Hyksos Shepherd Kings[/b]. It appears in the Kushite languages as qah as in Taharqah of the 25th Dynasty. In Ethiopian Semitic we have Na-gah[Naga]/Nagus king. In the Babylonian and Susianian royal names under the formkhak and as the terminal ending for ‘royal’. In the Dravidian and Mande languages the name for king is kaa.


The Cushitic people probably early dominated much of Northeast Africa and Arabia. It is interesting to note that according to George Rawlinson in The Origin of Nations (p.213), Col.Henry Rawlinson ,in his decipherment of the Cuneiform writing used Oromo/Galla a Cushitic language to read the cuneiform text.

But the Semitic speaking Africans were also in the area.
The Semitic speaking people are native to
Northeast Africa, they did not originate in Arabia.

The first civilization in Northeast Africa was the Tihama culture.
This view is supported by the archaeological evidence that support a close relationship between the Puntites/ Ethiopians and Nubians. For example, according to Fattovich, the pottery from Tihama Cultural Complex and other Ethiopian sites shows similarities to the Kerma and C-Group pottery. Given this connection between Ethiopian civilizations and civilizations in Nubia, make it clear that the Ethiopians would have been familiar with the ancient writing system used in this area discussed above.


Rudolfo Fattovich, The development of urbanism in the Northern Horn of Africa in ancient and Medieval Times. Retrieved 2/19/2008
http://www.arkeologi.uu.se/afr/projects/BOOK/fattowich.pdf


The earliest civilization in Southwest Arabia date back to the 2nd Millenium. This culture is called the Tihama culture which originated in Africa (Fattovich, 2008).

If the story represents the C-Group people it would explain the affinity between the earliest Ethio-Semitic culture Tihama and the C-Group. At Tihama and other sites in Arabia we find pottery related to the C-Group people of Nubia (Keall, 2000;2008; Fattovish, 2008; Giumlia-Mair, 2002)The archaeological evidence indicates that C-Group people expanded from Nubia to Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley.

It appears that whereas the Egyptians preferred the cultivation of wheat, many ancient C-Group people were agro-pastoral people who cultivated Millet/Sorghum and rasied cattle.

This civilization probably originated in Nubia. It is characterized by the cheesecake or pillbox burial monuments which extend from Dhofar in Nubia, the Gara mountains to Adulis on the Gulf of Zula, to Hadramaut, Qataban, Ausan, Adenm, Asir, the Main area and Tihama.

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The Semitic languages are divided into four groups:
North-east Semitic, Northwest Semitic, Southeast
Semitic and Southwest Semitic. The Ethiopian Semitic
languages belong to the Southeast Semitic subgroup.
In ancient times modern Ethiopia and Somalia was
called Punt. As a result I call the Semitic languages
of Ethiopia: Puntite languages. In the Sumerian texts
these Puntites may have been called Meluhhaites.

The Puntites lived in the Eastern desert of Egypt
and Arabia for many years and on the Horn of Africa.
The earliest representatives of this group are
depicted on the Ivory label of King Dan (Udimu) of the
first Dynasty of Kemit.

During the neolithic subpluvial the Red Sea area
recieved more rainfall. This area was blanketed with
vegetation and the people grew ensete, barley and
dates. They also grazed sheep, goats and cattle.
Arabia at this time was a vast savannah with
marshes and lakes. What is now known as the Rub
al-Khali or Empty Quarter, today, an arid mountainous
area, was then well watered.

The Cushitic speaking people of Ethiopia also appear to have had some representatives in Arabia during this period .The people of Punt lived in an area stretching from the Eastern desert of Egypt, eastward to the Red Sea, and Central Africa.These people spoke Puntite/ Semitic languages.

This group of Africoids lived in the Eastern Desert and the Red Sea Hills. Whereas most Africans are clean shaven the Puntites preferred to wear beards. The boats of these Easterners are found engraved at prehistoric sites in Mesopotamia. In the Egyptian records the standard of the Easterners was the Set animal.

The Egyptian traditions tell us that there was a struggle between Set and Horus which took place in Nubia. This story indicates that in ancient times Semitic-speaking people formerly lived in Nubia; this explains the Egyptian identification of Punt or Pwene as "the land of the gods". (Ullendorf 1973) The Egyptians called the people of Punt Kenbetu.

In the ancient literature of Kemit (Egypt) and
Mesopotamia, Punt was recognized as a sea power. From
ports along the Red Sea, the people of Punt traded
with of Kemit, Arabia, West Asia and Mesopotamia.
Modern Ethiopia is part of the land known to the
Egyptians "the lands of the gods". The inhabitants of
Punt, on the other hand called their country Arwe. It
was from here that the Semitic speaking nations moved
northward into Arabia and Mesopotamia. The Kemites allude to the Arwe Kingdom in a short story which tells how a good natured serpent of great size speaks to a ship wrecked Egyptian whose life he saved:

"I am the Prince of Punt...But it shall happen
when[thou] art parted from this place ,that never shalt
thou behold this island more, for it will become water...."(Doresse 1971, p.17)

This "good natured serpent" may refer to the
King-Serpent that ruled Punt according to Ethiopian
traditions.

The ships of Punt were very large, as early as
2500 B.C., they had ships with 60 oars. In the records
of Sumer-Akkad there are frequent passages referring
to the large boats of Punt, which they called Meluhha
. The ships of Meluhha made many voyages to
Mesopotamia.


Meluhha, included the area from Nubia eastward
to the coast of the Red Sea. This view is supported by
the discovery of C-Group pottery usually associated
with Nubia, found in excavated sites in Eritrea.
(Zayed 1981, p.142)

The Meluhhaites were known as the "black men" to
the Sumerians .The Akkadians called them "the
Meluhhaites, the men of the Black land". They sold
many products including metals and precious stones to
the people of Mesopotamia.(Kramer 1978, pp. 76-80)
There were many Egyptian contacts with Punt.
According to Herodotus, the Kemite Pharoah Sestrotris
carried his conquest as far as the Red Sea, where he
erected a stele at Deire. We have evidence of Egyptian expeditions to Punt sent by Pepi II in 2400 B.C.,and Mentuholep IV to bring back rare products from ancient Punt. Under Mentuholep V, the vizier Amenemhet established a port near Safaga to insure regular trade with Punt. The most famous voyage to Punt was undertaken by Queen Hatshepsut (c. 1520-1484), details of her mission are depicted on the walls of her temple at Deir el Bahri. (Gardiner 1978, p.78)


Many ports in modern Ethiopia have been used for
millennia. The inscriptions of Tuthmosis III refer to
such places as Outculit, Hamasu and Tekaru; these
names suggest the modern Ethiopian cities of Adulis,
Hamasu and Tigre. (Doresse 1971, p.17)


The Egyptians/Kemites made it clear that Punt
controlled both sides of the Red Sea. (Budge 1959,
p.53, n.1) In the Kemite inscription the Hymn of Ra,
we read "The land of Punt is established [to give] the
perfumes which thou smellest with thy nostrils".
(Budge 1959, p.149) Stuart Munro-Hay noted that: "One
extremely interesting Egyptian record from an 18th
Dynasty tomb at Thebes actually shows Puntite trading
boats or rafts with triangular sails ( Save
-Soderbergh 1946, p.24) for transporting the products
of Punt, indicating that the commerce was not
exclusively Egyptian- carried, and that local Red Sea
peoples were already seafaring...."

In modern Ethiopia there were three great empires
Punt-Arwe, the Da'mot or Di'amat Kingdom and Axum. The
first kingdom of Ethiopia was founded by the Habesha
or Habeshat who were first mentioned in the Egyptian
inscriptions of the 18th Dynasty of Egypt, in
connection with the Land of Punt.

The Punt empire was made up of people speaking
diverse languages. The culture bearers may have been
the Tigrinya speakers who call their language Habesha,
i.e., Abyssinian par excellence. (Doresse 1971) The
term Habesha seems to represent an old name for
Abyssinia (the ancient name for modern-day Ethiopia)
and may be connected with the Amharic word washa "a
cave or cavern".

The Puntite languages are characterized by a basic
vocabulary, a system of roots and vowel patterns and
the formation of derived verbs by prefixes. The South
Arabian languages: Sabaean, Minaean and Hadramautic,
are slightly different from modern South Arabic, but
analogous to the Ethiopian languages. This represents
the influence of the Jectanid tribes on South Arabic.
It is clear that the Proto-Puntite speakers lived
in Africa. Wolf Leslau (1951,1957) has made it clear
that Ethiopic and South Arabic form a dialectical
unity. Dialectical unity means that two or more
languages form a unified dialect.


According to Haupt, in 1878, Akkadian , Minaean
and Ethiopic all belong to the same group of Semitic
languages, even though they are separated in time and
by great geographical distance. This is surprising
considering the fact that Ethiopic and Akkadian are
separated by many hundreds of years. The best example
of this unity is the presence of shared archaicism
.(Leslau 1951) The linguistic feature of shared
archaicism is the appearance of the vowel after the
first consonant of the imperfect. (Hertzron & Bender
1976, p.23)

For example, one of the most outstanding features
of Puntite, is the presence of a vowel following the first consonant in the verb form known as the
imperfect, e.g., yi quattul (using the hypothetical verb consonants q-t-l, yi is the person marking prefix) or yi k'ett 'he kills'. In Southwest Semitic the form of the perfect is yu qtul-u . Here we have the same hypothetical q-t-l form, but there is no vowel following the first consonant of the verb root. This results from the fact that in Black African languages we rarely, if at all find words formed with double consonants.

The fact that Southeast Semitic has shared archaicism with Puntite shows that at the time the Akkadians and Ethiopic speakers separated these groups had dialectical unity. The lack of this trait in Arabic and Hebrew shows that they have been influenced by the Indo-European speakers who invaded Palestine and Arabia between 1300 B.C. and 900 B.C. Semitic verb root Akkadian Ethiopic/S. Arabian

  • kl 'to be dark' ekelu Soqotri okil
    'to cover'

    mr 'to see' amaru Geez

    ammara;Tigre amara

    br 'to catch' baru Soqotri b'r
    dgh 'remove' daqu Geez dagba 'to
    perforate'
    kdn 'to protect' kidin Tigre kadna

Clearly Black African language forms the base of
most Semitic words. Diop (1978,p.113) recognized that
in relation to Arabic words, once the first consonant
was suppressed, there is often an African root. This
phenomenon was also recognized by Wiener (1922, v.III)
who believed that many African words were of Arabic
origin.

The Cushitic substratum has strongly influenced
the phonology, morphology, syntax and vocabulary of
the Puntite languages.

  • Cushitic English Semitic
    Saho la wild cow *la-at
    Samoli la id. id.

This supports the view of I.M. Diakonoff that the
Semitic speakers and A-Group lived in close proximity
in ancient times. The evidence discussed above makes
it clear that Arabia, which was occupied in neolithic
times by the Anu, was probably not the original
homeland of the Semitic speakers. Modern Ethiopians
originated in Africa, not Arabia.

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I'd like to add this page to the thread supporting its thesis:

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AS YOU CAN SEE THIS FILTHY PINK ASSED MONKEY NO LONGER CARES THAT I AM MAKING A MOCKERY OF IT! HAHAHA! I HAVE TAKEN THIS FILTHY REPROBATES DIGNITY AND NOW IT PERFORMS FOR US ALL! LMBAO!!!!

As most of you have already figured out, this entire board consists of ONE sick degenerate that has created ficticious names to talk to itself in. Just a few of these names are CLYDE WINTERS, MIKE111 and THE LIONESS. however ALL of the posters on this site EXCEPT for MYSELF are this one sick degenerate! There is NOONE on this site that can be trusted but me. The only links on this site that can be trusted are the ones that I provide for you! Here is a link that you can use as a resource and can be trusted!
http://www.raceandhistory.com/

http://www.cbpm.org/index.html


When you have finished reading this post check out this site to learn the truth about history and ALL civilzations. Do NOT be fooled by the real history link that the filthy monkey created using the race and history link as a guide. This is the ONLY site that can be trusted
http://www.raceandhistory.com/

Isnt it funny how this one little link destroys all of the charts, graphs and pics that the filthy monkey lies to us with? You now understand why the filthy monkey continues to spam the board with photos of modern day populations that had absolutely NOTHING to do with ancient Egypt. THE LINK BELOW IS THE LATEST DNA ANALYSIS OF THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS! THE DNA THAT WAS USED WAS THE ""ANCIENT" DNA OF THE 18TH DYNASTY RATHER THAN MODERN DNA OF THE INVADERS OR GRECO ROMAN DNA. THIS ANCIENT DNA OF THE 18TH DYNASTY CLEARLY SHOWS THEM TO BE BANTU PEOPLES! LOOK FOR YOURSELF! HEHEHEHE!

http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

The next time one of these degenerates tries to tell you a lie just refer the moonkey to the latest DNA analysis on the ancient Egyptians, and then tell the faggot to crawl back in its cave!

http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf


This pretty much destroys all of the outdated and fallaceous sources that the silly monkey uses doesnt it?
http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf


The pig just keeps showing us why these crackers should not exist! They have genetically recessive genes and ion 50 years they will be the minority in BRITAIN!! THAT ALONE SHOULD TELL YOU THAT THEY WILL EVENTUALLY DIE OUT LIKE THE UNATURAL ABOMINATIONS THAT THEY ARE!

Look at the low IQ monkey with its charts and pictures LOL tHE dna analysis does not matter to this monkey, because it lives in a world of fantasy! lol

Folks, the monkey performs at my commend. I am this monkeys master!But then again all one needs to do is take a cursury look at this monkeys youtube page to understand the tenuous grip on reality that this monkey has! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/user/phoenician7

When the DNA analysis irrefutably shows that the modern day populations of South Africa, West Africa anmd central Africa are the ancestors of the ancient Egyptians what does a low IQ monkey do???

The low IQ monkey shows pictures and charts and munbles on and on about haplogroups while completely ignoring what the DNA analysis of the ancient Egyptians actually says LOL


the DNA analysis irrefutably shows that the modern day populations of South Africa, West Africa anmd central Africa are the ancestors of the ancient Egyptians. Thats what the DNA says, thats what the science says. This monkey in all of its fake names is very pathetic isnt it?

http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

Bookmark this link as it can definitely be TRUSTED
http://www.raceandhistory.com/

http://www.cbpm.org/index.html

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