quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''How do you justify the Pagan tribes of the Teutons, Goths, Celts, and Anglo Saxons, should I post some ancient references all the way up to the Muslim Era of the "Rituals" and "Practices" of your forefathers.'' =====
Because the Israelites turned to idolatry and polytheism, which is why in fact they were punished by God and deported by the Assyrians.
Even prior to the deportation, the united monarchy of Israel also crumbled because of idolatry and heathen influences. This later happened to Judah (the Jews)- and is clearly seen today with the pagan Talmud. The modern Rabbinic Judaic faith itself is a corrupt form of Babylonianism, with little Old Testament truth left. Only Karaite Judaism is pure:
The Karaite Jews however are persecuted and there are only a few thousand of them.
ROTFLMAO
So this explains your skewed views to say the least. You are a member of the British Israelites yet you call the Black Hebrew Israelites "crackpots"! Is not this the the tefflon pan calling the kettle black??
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Blacks are immigrants to Europe. The indigenous Europeans are white.
The only place blacks are native to is Sub-Sahara Africa. You will not find a single Afrocentric though living in their homeland...ALL of them live in white lands, typing English (a white language) on a computer (invented by white people)...
So blacks are only native to "Sub-Sahara", huh? Even though the Sahara did not always exist with North Africa once being fertile, and even after dessication and the establishment of desert the Sahara was never a barrier. All evidence shows that populations of North Africa were continuous with so-called "Sub-Sahara".
In northwest Africa for example, the black identity of the Moors is and other Berbers is well known and your claims to the contrary have been debunked here and here. As for northeast Africa and in particular Egypt...
Well here are some portraits of ancient Egyptian royals.
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So quick to label the actions of a Pope as the actions of all Xtians.
But when an Atheist who shut down and closed the Russian Orthodoxy slaughters millions, it of course has nothing to do with atheism...LOL
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: ]Atheism is the lack of a belief in higher power, period. Communism and Nazism are/were sociopolitical ideologies supported by and rooted in Russian Christian Orthodoxy, Paganism and Catholicism. Read the great Christopher Hitchens and enlighten yourself.
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quote:Originally posted by Assforrides: They don't believe what they claim.
Afrocentrism is a political movement, its adherents don't believe what they spout, its intention is just to anger white people (usually by trying to steal their heritage).
Cannot the same be said for Eurocentrism?
quote:Originally posted by astenb: From a Eurocentric blog
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: The only place blacks are native to is Sub-Sahara Africa. You will not find a single Afrocentric though living in their homeland...ALL of them live in white lands, typing English (a white language) on a computer (invented by white people)...
The guy who popularized the Black Egypt debate in the 20th century, Cheikh Anta Diop, was an African Wolof. I don't know how popular Black Egypt is among Africans compared to African Diaspora people, but this is not just a Diaspora idea.
By the way, this whole argument was started by a Frenchman in the 18th century.
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I like how you atheists operate...
So quick to label the actions of a Pope as the actions of all Xtians.
But when an Atheist who shut down and closed the Russian Orthodoxy slaughters millions, it of course has nothing to do with atheism...LOL
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: ]Atheism is the lack of a belief in higher power, period. Communism and Nazism are/were sociopolitical ideologies supported by and rooted in Russian Christian Orthodoxy, Paganism and Catholicism. Read the great Christopher Hitchens and enlighten yourself.
What atheists like NonProphet fail to realize is that atheism itself can and nowadays often does become a form of religion in it of itself. By the way, Nazism is rooted in socialism pure and simple. There was no religious ideology behind it however, the leaders of Nazism including Hitler were occultists who practiced a debased form of Germanic paganism. The Catholic Church was only spared if it complied which for some part it did (many Jews and other minorities were saved from the Nazis by the Catholic Church). Definitely most of the killings by communism in both the Soviet Union and China were atheist driven.
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quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: The guy who popularized the Black Egypt debate in the 20th century, Cheikh Anta Diop, was an African Wolof. I don't know how popular Black Egypt is among Africans compared to African Diaspora people, but this is not just a Diaspora idea.
By the way, this whole argument was started by a Frenchman in the 18th century.
There's really no need to counter Assforride's silly claims. Of course there are African Afrocentrics, and plenty of them besides Diop. The original purpose of Afrocentric scholarship was to write the wrongs that Eurocentric scholarship has done to African history. In fact who better than Africans themselves?!
Castforhide is nothing but a deranged Euronut perhaps even more so than the 'black hebrew israelites'.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: There's really no need to counter Assforride's silly claims. Of course there are African Afrocentrics, and plenty of them besides Diop. The original purpose of Afrocentric scholarship was to write the wrongs that Eurocentric scholarship has done to African history. In fact who better than Africans themselves?!
What is an "Afrocentric" anyway? The term has been thrown around so carelessly that it has lost almost all its original meaning.
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Atheists hate the fact that alot of the mass killings by Communist dictators was driven to shut down the religious.
Atheists hate this because using their logic it puts their religion in the same boat as Xtianity and Islam with the Crusades and Invasions by Muslims.
An Atheist will talk about the Crusades in one breath but pretend that the Communist Atheists were justified in the same breath.
Ive Debated Atheists on Youtube, they think because Atheism is a lack of belief in deity that their relgion is washed clean of the Mass Murdered religious during their regimes.
The clear message is that Religion be it Xtanity, Athiesm, Islam etc. should be seperate from the state and from gathering to much power.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I like how you atheists operate...
So quick to label the actions of a Pope as the actions of all Xtians.
But when an Atheist who shut down and closed the Russian Orthodoxy slaughters millions, it of course has nothing to do with atheism...LOL
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: ]Atheism is the lack of a belief in higher power, period. Communism and Nazism are/were sociopolitical ideologies supported by and rooted in Russian Christian Orthodoxy, Paganism and Catholicism. Read the great Christopher Hitchens and enlighten yourself.
What atheists like NonProphet fail to realize is that atheism itself can and nowadays often does become a form of religion in it of itself. By the way, Nazism is rooted in socialism pure and simple. There was no religious ideology behind it however, the leaders of Nazism including Hitler were occultists who practiced a debased form of Germanic paganism. The Catholic Church was only spared if it complied which for some part it did (many Jews and other minorities were saved from the Nazis by the Catholic Church). Definitely most of the killings by communism in both the Soviet Union and China were atheist driven.
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quote:Originally posted by Zioncity: I grew up around nothing but black people in the US. I went to a black University. And there is a definite disconnect between them and african culture/history. Dont know where you from DAWG. My point of contention was really the term "BHI"
Call me names i'mma say what i'mma say.
By the way: the dumbest point of contention ever i was talking about was the one you were responding to, not your response.
I agree with you on the vast majority of what you wrote, your whole mindset and that black americnas in general are at a disconnect with continentals. (therefore saying anything about the "BHI" in particular is retarded)
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WoW!! you have got to be sh!ttn me but then again I should not be surprised this happened to me twice on Youtube debates where I was blocked and I didn't even bring out my heavy guns soo weak and pathetic they are. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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^ Indeed. I for one am not surprised in the least bit by this exposure. Eurocentrism or at least the radical Eurocentrism that seeks to white-wash not only Egypt but other African and non-European cultures is an ideology rooted solely in the lie of white-supremacy. And because it is rooted in a lie, they have no choice but to cover it up and perpetuate it with more lies. The Eurocentrists are really no different from the Communists who also seek to revise history to push forth their own political agendas. After all, it was a famous communist who once said "tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth".
People like NonProphet and Cassterides know this, or maybe they're aren't smart enough to. Posts: 26356 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Nazism is rooted in socialism pure and simple.
So is Zionism.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: radical Eurocentrism that seeks to white-wash not only Egypt but other African and non-European cultures is an ideology rooted solely in the lie of white-supremacy.
Indeed.
quote:And because it is rooted in a lie, they have no choice but to cover it up and perpetuate it with more lies. The Eurocentrists are really no different from the Communists who also seek to revise history to push forth their own political agendas.
Indeed, just like Zionists who seek to revise history to push forth their own political agendas to hide the truth:
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Indeed. I for one am not surprised in the least bit by this exposure. Eurocentrism or at least the radical Eurocentrism that seeks to white-wash not only Egypt but other African and non-European cultures is an ideology rooted solely in the lie of white-supremacy. And because it is rooted in a lie, they have no choice but to cover it up and perpetuate it with more lies. The Eurocentrists are really no different from the Communists who also seek to revise history to push forth their own political agendas. After all, it was a famous communist who once said "tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth".
People like NonProphet and Cassterides know this, or maybe they're aren't smart enough to.
Truth tastes good when you have a belly full of lies.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: By the way, Nazism is rooted in socialism pure and simple
wrong
Socialism is anti-Capitalism and anti-private property. The Nazi's were neither - thus they were not Socialists even though they called themselves the National Socialist Movement.
Joseph Goebbels said combining Nationalism and Socialism as represented in the name, was to "counter the Internationalism of Marxism with the nationalism of a German Socialism"
Oswald Spengler, a German cultural philosopher, was a major influence on Nazism. He described socialism outside of a class conflict perspective and said "The meaning of socialism is that life is controlled not by the opposition between rich and poor, but by the rank that achievement and talent bestow. That is our freedom, freedom from the economic despotism of the individual." Spengler claimed that socialistic Prussian characteristics existed across Germany that included creativity, discipline, concern for the greater good, productivity, and self-sacrifice. Spengler's definition of socialism did not advocate change in property relations. He said "War is the eternal form of higher human existence and states exist for war: they are the expression of the will to war." Adolf Hitler regarded economic issues as relatively unimportant. In 1922, Hitler proclaimed that "world history teaches us that no people has become great through its economy but that a people can very well perish thereby", and later concluded that "the economy is something of secondary importance". He said "Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not" The Nazis never had a clearly defined economic program Hitler said "The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." they were making it up as they went along, making contradictory statements. Fascists favor corporatism and class collaboration, believing that the existence of inequality and separate social classes was beneficial (contrary to the views of socialists)
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^^^^ Lioness is correct, the Nazi's were not socialist. People forget the Nazi's were at war with the Socialists.
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That Wiki entry was just an attempt to distance socialism from fascism. The similarity is clear: totalitarianism, social engineering, state-ism, collectivism (varying degrees) and extreme group-think.
quote:People forget the Nazi's were at war with the Socialists.
Socialists, like most ideologues, are always at war with themselves. Leninists, Stanlinists, Trotskyites, "African socialists" etc all claim to be "true" socialists. No ideology is "pure" in the sense that it does not have aspects of other ideas. These are all just ideas and ideas evolve, borrow and adapt. Its the nature of ideology.
quote:The Nazis never had a clearly defined economic program
Yet they managed to convince Churchill that if England ever found itself in economic trouble they should pray to god to send them a Hitler to restore the country among respectful nations. (paraphrase of course)
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^ Of course you come to the defense of your Nazi brothers. But you are aware that Nazis were anti-black racists as well right and not just against Jews.
By the way, while the Nazis weren't hardcore communists they were still fascists and ones of the worst kind responsible for genocide.
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ Lioness is correct, the Nazi's were not socialist. People forget the Nazi's were at war with the Socialists.
Actually the Nazis started out as socialists when Hitler partnered up with Ernst Röhm leader of the Brownshirts. The problem was that Ernst Röhm was a hardcore socialist who believed in government control of industries. Hitler was smart enough to know that Germany's economy (like any economy) couldn't last if it was government controlled and that money could only be made by private control. He also saw the Brownshirts' street thug approach as a threat to his new order. This was when Hitler initiated the Night of the Long Knives to purge the country of the hardline socialists and including an incident when Röhm's men who gathered in the Bavarian countryside for an orgy were massacred. Hitler and his new regime would be a fascist government wherein the industries remained in private control BUT under government regulation. By the way, the whole theme of homosexual orgies and such continued under Hitler.
Let's see, marked hatred against Jews and homosexual parties... Anguish is definitely a Nazi. Posts: 26356 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote: Originally posted by Djehuty: What atheists like NonProphet fail to realize is that atheism itself can and nowadays often does become a form of religion in it of itself.
Very perceptive.
This can be glossed from how certain scientist use words like ''central dogma'' and how they impair other scientist careers whenever revolutionary (but what later becomes accepted) viewpoints are introduced time after time again.
They're also quite fond of using terms like ''heritic'' whenever people deviate and/or question Darwinian evolution. We all know in what medieval settings we can find those terms and behaviors applied.
Hint: It starts with ''v'' and ends with ''atican''
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