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Black nationalists as opposed to integrationists preach unity of community, self determination and self reliance as well as embracing the history of blacks, all of that is conservative, not liberal.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackTiger: i think blacknationalists are racists like whitenationalists
You don't know what true black nationalism is, black nationalism is not the same as black supremacism although some black supremacists like adopting black nationalist ideas. Black nationialism is free of supremacists taint.
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I'd concur that any form of nationalism is not liberal.
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quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: I am a conservative, mostly a religious and social conservative and I do believe the Civil Rights movement itself was intended to be progressive, but some of those who marched with blacks were not very progressive and MLK and Malcolm X pointed
^^^^Charlie's a Conservative Progressive
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quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: I am a conservative, mostly a religious and social conservative and I do believe the Civil Rights movement itself was intended to be progressive, but some of those who marched with blacks were not very progressive and MLK and Malcolm X pointed
^^^^Charlie's a Conservative Progressive
I stated what I was so stop distorting, I am a social and religious conservative.
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: I'd concur that any form of nationalism is not liberal.
This.
Nationalism is nothing more than a modern-day manifestation of the tribalism that has torn our species apart throughout history. I'm a staunch intergrationist who believes that the time has come for people of all backgrounds to put aside their differences and work together towards a better future, and that includes recognizing the humanity of everyone regardless of whatever ethnicity or other demographic group they come from. Unfortunately my sentiments are rare among most people of any "race".
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: I'd concur that any form of nationalism is not liberal.
This.
Nationalism is nothing more than a modern-day manifestation of the tribalism that has torn our species apart throughout history. I'm a staunch intergrationist who believes that the time has come for people of all backgrounds to put aside their differences and work together towards a better future, and that includes recognizing the humanity of everyone regardless of whatever ethnicity or other demographic group they come from. Unfortunately my sentiments are rare among most people of any "race".
While I'm not against people of all races working and living together I have to say that integration has not helped solve the race problem in America, it has only put a band aid on a deep wound that still bleeds.
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quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: While I'm not against people of all races working and living together I have to say that integration has not helped solve the race problem in America, it has only put a band aid on a deep wound that still bleeds.
I agree, our handling of the race problem has been half-hearted at best. The resistance of many whites to reparations for the abominable treatment of black people throughout American history, which still scars black communities throughout the country, is an example of how disinterested we are in actual racial equality. Unfortunately I don't know if there's any way to truly cure the race problem that would be politically easy to pull off.
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what does blacknationalists think of racial mixing? and what do you think of mullatos, quadroosn,octroons?
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''I'm a staunch intergrationist who believes that the time has come for people of all backgrounds to put aside their differences and work together towards a better future'' ====
In other words you promote genocide. If you mix races they disappear, say first goodbye to white blondes and redheads.
In your sick world you probably want everyone to be an ugly brown colour?
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but why do you like obama than? he is product of racial mixing, offspring of a white mother and a black father. if you are racist you wouldnt say "oh its a black president"....do you accept mullatos or not?
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ... an ugly brown colour?
You continue to insist that our Africanness = ugliness. But that didn't seem to stop 'white' massa from routinely raping Black women for yeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrrs....from they set foot on the shores of Mama Africa, on the boats over the Middle Passage, to the shores of the Caribbean and the Americas...they couldn't keep their nasty filthy pale pig-skinned Selves off of our Ancestors....even creeping down to slave quarters while their 'white' wife was at home minding her business to rape Black women, and the poor Black Women who worked in the Big House- massa couldn't leave them alone, right under the roof of his 'white' wife...
quadroon balls...where rich 'white' men looked a mixed-race mistress...
And in the Caribbean, it was UNusual for a 'white' man NOT to have a Black mistress...
as well as several very recent news headlines, lol, we know that 'white' men STILL can't keep their nasty filthy pale pig-skinned Selves off Black Women and Our 'ugliness.'
Oh, and 'white' women can't keep their nasty filthy pale pig-skinned Selves off of Black Men's "ugliness" either...I would be posting for yeeeeaaarrrrrrrs if I had to post the evidence of that...
Do you know the FACTS: how many many many 'white' women come to the Caribbean just for the "rent a dreads"- who are Black Men, those 'white' women pay to f*k them, btw (KMRT @ towards the 'rent a dreads')... and 'white' women practice sex tourism in Africa as well; here is an example and YES, THIS MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT UP MY ENTIRE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM:
quote:Masai Tribe Sex Secrets Attracting White Women Kenya Safari
Believe it or not most Kenyans who are fellow countrymen to the Masai tribe know very little about this African tribe in comparison to white European, Asian, American women and white westerners at large who have discovered many amazing Masai secrets through mainly word of mouth. Local Kenyans who don’t belong to the Masai tribe don’t have the slightest clue about these Masai top secrets. The reason is not too difficult to guess, Many Africans who believe that they are civilized normally look down on the Masai tribe and dismiss them as primitive, backward and uneducated, they therefore have no need to value this rare African tribe’s culture.
So finding out what many women in the west have discovered about the Masai tribe is virtually unattainable for them. What you will read will shock you, and most of all will answer a burning question where white women on holiday safari in Kenya have travelled with only one- to find a lover from the Masai tribe. Even more worrying trend has arisen, women who manage to achieve this objective are hooked for life and some have even left their families, husbands and financial security, to stay for life with their new-found penniless Masai lovers.
In one widely revealed situation in UK the rather odd couple soon got into financial troubles that the woman was forced to sell “her story” to the British tabloid, The News Of The World. Basically what readers wanted to know was what kind of lover Masai would cause an intelligent, sophisticated white woman to forget herself, abandoned her teenage children and British husband for her young “ridiculous looking” Masai lover, many wondered what they discussed—if they were capable to have a discussion in the first place.
Firstly it is critical to note that Masai are very reserved and hardly reveal their secrets you. To begin with Masai are the most promiscuous tribe in Kenya; their culture allows them any woman in the village as a lover, as long as she is married to a person of the same age, or a man they were circumcised on the same day with, all he needs to do is bury his spear at the doorway of the Manyatta, if the man of the house happens to arrive back home finds a spear buried in the ground outside his home, he takes a walk.
They are required by circumstances to go in search of some other age mates’ house where they can bury their spear for the night. The Masai have been practicing this bizarre tradition for years. All Masai women are circumcised and it is impossible for any woman not to. Masai Men have a way of arousing their circumcised women; this is archived by the way they are circumcised. They leave heavy skin hanging downwards around the penis, this accomplishes two main objectives, it prolongs lovemaking enormously and allows for much more “friction” (in the right places). This is Masai secret way that makes the tribe brilliant in lovemaking attracting white women and making them go crazy and stop thinking straight.
Additional factors that enhance the Masai warriors as lovers are the fact that the Masai are well gifted, size that is, because they don’t wear trousers they literally move with a small red cloth covering the front and back, so women get a side and are able to see and inspect. Secondly in a world that boys continuously pretend to be men, the Masai are actual men, their initiation into manhood typically involves them killing a full-grown lion. This is certainly not something for the faint hearted. Many white men aren’t aware of the fact that this are the biggest turn on for white woman. beach boys in Mombasa have noted the white women tourists’ preference for Masai lovers and have taken the trouble to modify their looks so as to qualify for Masai’s to the eager white women tourists who have no problem paying handsomely for services rendered.
Edwin is a specialist in African Safaris and a tour operator. His tour company, African Safaris & Adventures, has presence in South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Mozambique, Egypt, Madascar, Tanzania, Zanzibar, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and Seychelles.
Nuff 'White' woman tourists take vacation just to go to Africa to f*k African men and "have no problem paying handsomely for services rendered"
Mi seh....
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quote:Originally posted by BlackTiger: but why do you like obama than? he is product of racial mixing, offspring of a white mother and a black father. if you are racist you wouldnt say "oh its a black president"....do you accept mullatos or not?
Are you familiar with the word 'assume' and how it generally breaks down? Please stop doing it, it's annoying (actually, I think you know wtf you are doing, but I am bored at the moment so I am entertaining you for the moment). There are some Black Nationalists who do not care for President Obama, and for a variety of reasons.
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I know a way to cure the "race" problem. Go on an all out war on anything pale skinned. They have shown through history they cannot not be trusted and are bloodthirsty murderers and psychopaths.
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quote:Originally posted by Zioncity: I know a way to cure the "race" problem. Go on an all out war on anything pale skinned. They have shown through history they cannot not be trusted and are bloodthirsty murderers and psychopaths.
"They have shown through history they cannot not be trusted and are bloodthirsty murderers and psychopaths."
While this is Truth....No....I would not say stoop down to that level....unless pushed to that point in Self-defense.
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I'm sorry but when I said "war" I didnt necessarily mean all physical but they have to stop being supported financially by these other nations around the world. I look at egyptsearch as a battlefront if you will. The lies they taught is a key element in how they have been able to destroy the earth for so long. Which is why these idiots come here desperately clinging to those lies. Although you wont see me shed no tears for no white man getting his ass laid out just being real.
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quote: I know a way to cure the "race" problem. Go on an all out war on anything pale skinned. They have shown through history they cannot not be trusted and are bloodthirsty murderers and psychopaths.
Bad double negative in their lol i type too fast...
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quote:Originally posted by Zioncity: Although you wont see me shed no tears for no white man getting his ass laid out just being real.
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quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: I am a conservative, mostly a religious and social conservative and I do believe the Civil Rights movement itself was intended to be progressive, but some of those who marched with blacks were not very progressive and MLK and Malcolm X pointed
^^^^Charlie's a Conservative Progressive
I stated what I was so stop distorting, I am a social and religious conservative.
so I take it you are not progressive
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric:
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: I'd concur that any form of nationalism is not liberal.
This.
Nationalism is nothing more than a modern-day manifestation of the tribalism that has torn our species apart throughout history. I'm a staunch intergrationist who believes that the time has come for people of all backgrounds to put aside their differences and work together towards a better future, and that includes recognizing the humanity of everyone regardless of whatever ethnicity or other demographic group they come from. Unfortunately my sentiments are rare among most people of any "race".
While I'm not against people of all races working and living together I have to say that integration has not helped solve the race problem in America, it has only put a band aid on a deep wound that still bleeds.
Integration has not been tried that much if you look at housing. Look at New York for example. Harlem has only become as gentrified as it is becoming recently and that was not due to integrationist policies it is due the real estate market and white people buying up apartments and paying higher rents.
But before the past 20 years, New York, supposedly liberal was pretty divided in terms of neighborhoods, Blacks uptown in Harlem.
Gentrification is a separate issue.
The fact is that in terms of housing and neighborhoods many cities are racially divided. Housing location is one of the most primary factors in people getting more opportunity. If you and many people like you live in the area of the city where there is most power, governmental and financial it's a big advantage. If you live way out in the outskirts a big disadvantage.
Integration where it would count the most, in housing location has not been done that much, except for a few isolated projects (and within the confines of the projects not integrated, except for Blacks and Hispanics in some cases) So the idea that integration has instituted in this more fundamental way attempted is a myth.
Minister Farrakhan lives in a mainly white neighborhood. You'd think after 80 years the NOI would have been able to have a large chunk of land somewhere, all black folk and it's leader living there or at least in an all Black neighborhood.
It's a sham
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''You continue to insist that our Africanness = ugliness.'' ====
Dark skin, thick lips, wide nose and wooly hair etc are all the ugliest features. This is a proven fact confirmed by scientists etc who study sexual selection and study physical attractiveness. Pale skin, delicate features and straight blonde or fair hair are considered universally the most attractive. See links, this topic surfaces the newspapers every year.
Google has been caught in a race row after the search phrase 'why are black people so ugly' appeared as a suggested question
NOTE: to get that listed as a suggested question, MILLIONS of people must have typed in ''why are black people so ugly'.
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The question--whether black nationalists are liberal or conservative--is somewhat loaded.
First question is one of definition? So who would define "black nationalist"?
Let's turn things around and ask the following questions: Was Mao a yellow nationalist? Or Ghandi a brown nationalist? Was Mohammed an Arabian nationalist? Or the Christ a Palestinian nationalist? Or Toussaint an African nationalist. Same for Zumbi of Palmares? Or Nat Turner of Carolina?
On the intellectual side: Was Cheikh Anta Diop an African nationalist? Same for Fanon? And Dubois--who claimed in writing that Africa was his fatherland and who wrote the short text "The Conservation of Races" in which he said that blacks have a message for humanity so therefore they should maintain their racial integrity?
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''You continue to insist that our Africanness = ugliness.'' ====
Dark skin, thick lips, wide nose and wooly hair etc are all the ugliest features. This is a proven fact confirmed by scientists etc who study sexual selection and study physical attractiveness. Pale skin, delicate features and straight blonde or fair hair are considered universally the most attractive. See links, this topic surfaces the newspapers every year.
Google has been caught in a race row after the search phrase 'why are black people so ugly' appeared as a suggested question
NOTE: to get that listed as a suggested question, MILLIONS of people must have typed in ''white are black people so ugly'.
MI SEH....STOP GUH ROUND DI TING YA MON:
You continue to insist that our Africanness = ugliness. But that didn't seem to stop 'white' massa from routinely raping Black women for yeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrrs....from they set foot on the shores of Mama Africa, on the boats over the Middle Passage, to the shores of the Caribbean and the Americas...they couldn't keep their nasty filthy pale pig-skinned Selves off of our Ancestors....even creeping down to slave quarters while their 'white' wife was at home minding her business to rape Black women, and the poor Black Women who worked in the Big House- massa couldn't leave them alone, right under the roof of his 'white' wife...
quadroon balls...where rich 'white' men looked a mixed-race mistress...
And in the Caribbean, it was UNusual for a 'white' man NOT to have a Black mistress...
as well as several very recent news headlines, lol, we know that 'white' men STILL can't keep their nasty filthy pale pig-skinned Selves off Black Women and Our 'ugliness.'
Oh, and 'white' women can't keep their nasty filthy pale pig-skinned Selves off of Black Men's "ugliness" either...I would be posting for yeeeeaaarrrrrrrs if I had to post the evidence of that...
Do you know the FACTS: how many many many 'white' women come to the Caribbean just for the "rent a dreads"- who are Black Men, those 'white' women pay to f*k them, btw (KMRT @ towards the 'rent a dreads')... and 'white' women practice sex tourism in Africa as well; here is an example and YES, THIS MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT UP MY ENTIRE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM:
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Masai Tribe Sex Secrets Attracting White Women Kenya Safari
Believe it or not most Kenyans who are fellow countrymen to the Masai tribe know very little about this African tribe in comparison to white European, Asian, American women and white westerners at large who have discovered many amazing Masai secrets through mainly word of mouth. Local Kenyans who don’t belong to the Masai tribe don’t have the slightest clue about these Masai top secrets. The reason is not too difficult to guess, Many Africans who believe that they are civilized normally look down on the Masai tribe and dismiss them as primitive, backward and uneducated, they therefore have no need to value this rare African tribe’s culture.
So finding out what many women in the west have discovered about the Masai tribe is virtually unattainable for them. What you will read will shock you, and most of all will answer a burning question where white women on holiday safari in Kenya have travelled with only one- to find a lover from the Masai tribe. Even more worrying trend has arisen, women who manage to achieve this objective are hooked for life and some have even left their families, husbands and financial security, to stay for life with their new-found penniless Masai lovers.
In one widely revealed situation in UK the rather odd couple soon got into financial troubles that the woman was forced to sell “her story” to the British tabloid, The News Of The World. Basically what readers wanted to know was what kind of lover Masai would cause an intelligent, sophisticated white woman to forget herself, abandoned her teenage children and British husband for her young “ridiculous looking” Masai lover, many wondered what they discussed—if they were capable to have a discussion in the first place.
Firstly it is critical to note that Masai are very reserved and hardly reveal their secrets you. To begin with Masai are the most promiscuous tribe in Kenya; their culture allows them any woman in the village as a lover, as long as she is married to a person of the same age, or a man they were circumcised on the same day with, all he needs to do is bury his spear at the doorway of the Manyatta, if the man of the house happens to arrive back home finds a spear buried in the ground outside his home, he takes a walk.
They are required by circumstances to go in search of some other age mates’ house where they can bury their spear for the night. The Masai have been practicing this bizarre tradition for years. All Masai women are circumcised and it is impossible for any woman not to. Masai Men have a way of arousing their circumcised women; this is archived by the way they are circumcised. They leave heavy skin hanging downwards around the penis, this accomplishes two main objectives, it prolongs lovemaking enormously and allows for much more “friction” (in the right places). This is Masai secret way that makes the tribe brilliant in lovemaking attracting white women and making them go crazy and stop thinking straight.
Additional factors that enhance the Masai warriors as lovers are the fact that the Masai are well gifted, size that is, because they don’t wear trousers they literally move with a small red cloth covering the front and back, so women get a side and are able to see and inspect. Secondly in a world that boys continuously pretend to be men, the Masai are actual men, their initiation into manhood typically involves them killing a full-grown lion. This is certainly not something for the faint hearted. Many white men aren’t aware of the fact that this are the biggest turn on for white woman. beach boys in Mombasa have noted the white women tourists’ preference for Masai lovers and have taken the trouble to modify their looks so as to qualify for Masai’s to the eager white women tourists who have no problem paying handsomely for services rendered.
Edwin is a specialist in African Safaris and a tour operator. His tour company, African Safaris & Adventures, has presence in South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Mozambique, Egypt, Madascar, Tanzania, Zanzibar, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and Seychelles.
Nuff 'White' woman tourists take vacation just to go to Africa to f*k African men and "have no problem paying handsomely for services rendered"
Mi seh....
Why do 'white' women do these things to themSelves, spending money to have our Natural "ugly" features:
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There is no such thing as "conservative" or "liberal". Rulership has always been about nobility(bloodline) and money. All a "nationalist" wants is for his people to have ownership of themselves free from foreign occupation.
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''You continue to insist that our Africanness = ugliness.'' ====
Dark skin, thick lips, wide nose and wooly hair etc are all the ugliest features. This is a proven fact confirmed by scientists etc who study sexual selection and study physical attractiveness. Pale skin, delicate features and straight blonde or fair hair are considered universally the most attractive. See links, this topic surfaces the newspapers every year.
quote:In contrast black men, he said, were more attractive than their other males.
taken directly from your own link...stating, basically, that Black Men are more attractive than other males- that would include 'white' males, I am sure.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: [QB] The question--whether black nationalists are liberal or conservative--is somewhat loaded.
First question is one of definition? So who would define "black nationalist"?
Let's turn things around and ask the following questions: Was Mao a yellow nationalist? Or Ghandi a brown nationalist? Was Mohammed an Arabian nationalist? Or the Christ a Palestinian nationalist? Or Toussaint an African nationalist. Same for Zumbi of Palmares? Or Nat Turner of Carolina?
On the intellectual side: Was Cheikh Anta Diop an African nationalist? Same for Fanon? And Dubois--
No to all the above. Black Nationalists are people who say they are "Black Nationlists"
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Weak answer. So who are the "nationalists" who call themselves "black nationalists"? Actual quotes required. Go ahead...
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quote:Originally posted by BlackTiger: i think blacknationalists are racists like whitenationalists
You don't know what true black nationalism is, black nationalism is not the same as black supremacism although some black supremacists like adopting black nationalist ideas. Black nationialism is free of supremacists taint.
WTF do you know about black nationalism jesus freak?!
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Any paradigm that seeks to divide society into units while discouraging integration, is nationalistic in its outlook. Even being loyal to one's nationality, i.e. country of origin, is nationalistic. I don't consider struggles for human rights "nationalistic", unless it subsequently morphs into advocacy of disintegration on the basis of "race" or "religion", and just the protection of only the human rights of those entities.
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'A person that plays and love playing the piano is called a pianist, same for a guitarist. So if I love my race over any other race, call me a racist.'
- "Chuck D"
Mi seh....
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quote:Originally posted by BlackTiger: i think blacknationalists are racists like whitenationalists
You don't know what true black nationalism is, black nationalism is not the same as black supremacism although some black supremacists like adopting black nationalist ideas. Black nationialism is free of supremacists taint.
WTF do you know about black nationalism jesus freak?!
You Jew obsessed monkeytard, what do you know about black nationalism? Hint, it doesn't revolve around Jew-bashing 24/7.
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I dont understand, I support the idea that the improvement of Black Communties involves Blacks Only and Black Men steeping up and taking back our roles as leaders. I also strongly advocate blacks Fixing our neightborhoods up and circulating our money within our Communities as opposed to shacking up with Whitey and moving to white neighborhoods.
Am I a black nationalist...?? I don't advocate segregated or "Black Nation"/"White Nation" as its against the constitution and Americanism in general. America is a nation the Union and I support the Union being for anyone to live. White Nationalists can go back to Europe and Black NAtionlists to africa to create their Nations..
I do think an all black Nation fouded off of African Americans and African Carribeans and others, in thoery sounds like a good option but when I analyze the "Thug Mentality" the Lazy 15 Baby Daddy Steet life B.S and the ideas that an Education=acting white, I would say there should be qualifications for citizen ship in this Nation,
1) Education 4yr degree or higher, or At least a High School Diploma or GED. 2) High School and College Reading Level of a Major Language(English preferable) 3) No Criminal Record, no Felony, 4) No more than 4 Children by different spouces..
Laws should be enforced with deportation and Death Penalty for Murderers and Thug Criminals.
Also there should be no official religion..
If a Black Nation had those basics I would give serious thought to the idea.
Im serious though Ive lived in the Hood all my life and lived around blacks all My life. I know how Niggas operate, we are our own worst enemy. Some of us would rather rob and kill each other instead of getting a Job and solving conflicts in a calm manner. It was'nt a White man that broke into my House and stole my old Laptop or that Broke into my Neighbors House or my other Neighbor Car, it was a "Nigger" probably living off Section 8 Housing(as this sort of crime was rare in my hood until Section8 was implemented). All I gotta say the Niggas that broke into my House got another thing coming if he tries it again, Im gonna blow his Brains out of His head next time around.
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B.N should evolve around one people BLACKS, all these people obsseing over whites, Da White Man this and that, cant go two sentences with out mentioning the White man are not about black unity but about a vendetta against the white man.
Same with White Nationalists they can't go tow sentences with out mentioning blacks or other Minorities.
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by BlackTiger: i think blacknationalists are racists like whitenationalists
You don't know what true black nationalism is, black nationalism is not the same as black supremacism although some black supremacists like adopting black nationalist ideas. Black nationialism is free of supremacists taint.
WTF do you know about black nationalism jesus freak?!
You Jew obsessed monkeytard, what do you know about black nationalism? Hint, it doesn't revolve around Jew-bashing 24/7.
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: I dont understand, I support the idea that the improvement of Black Communties involves Blacks Only and Black Men steeping up and taking back our roles as leaders. I also strongly advocate blacks Fixing our neightborhoods up and circulating our money within our Communities as opposed to shacking up with Whitey and moving to white neighborhoods.
Am I a black nationalist...?? I don't advocate segregated or "Black Nation"/"White Nation" as its against the constitution and Americanism in general. America is a nation the Union and I support the Union being for anyone to live. White Nationalists can go back to Europe and Black NAtionlists to africa to create their Nations..
I do think an all black Nation fouded off of African Americans and African Carribeans and others, in thoery sounds like a good option but when I analyze the "Thug Mentality" the Lazy 15 Baby Daddy Steet life B.S and the ideas that an Education=acting white, I would say there should be qualifications for citizen ship in this Nation,
1) Education 4yr degree or higher, or At least a High School Diploma or GED. 2) High School and College Reading Level of a Major Language(English preferable) 3) No Criminal Record, no Felony, 4) No more than 4 Children by different spouces..
Laws should be enforced with deportation and Death Penalty for Murderers and Thug Criminals.
Also there should be no official religion..
If a Black Nation had those basics I would give serious thought to the idea.
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^^^^ Im dead serious, Im not living or putting up with Uneducated dead beats. The Intelligencia and Bougerie of the Black Diaspora should Control and set limits to citizenship if a Black Nation was formed. If not the same problems would happen over again. Any one who has lived around an uneducated jobless black person would agree.
When I think of a Black Nation I think of this..
Not this..
and I have no pity on Black Thugs who murder other blacks. If Found Guilty without a doubt, They deserve the death penelty IMO and not more wasted Tax Dollars.
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quote:Originally posted by Just Call me Jari: ^^^^ Im dead serious
Oh, I see you were speaking of the hypothetical "black nation". Regardless, I still find some issue with some of the things said...
quote:Im not living or putting up with Uneducated dead beats. The Intelligencia and Bougerie of the Black Diaspora should Control and set limits to citizenship if a Black Nation was formed. If not the same problems would happen over again. Any one who has lived around an uneducated jobless black person would agree.
No nation can possibly become a Utopia.
Do you think that these "uneducated jobless black people", or any people who are jobless and uneducated for that matter, choose to be in the position they're in, i.e., poor and jobless?
quote:When I think of a Black Nation I think of this..
A Nation filled with wealthy educated doctors? That sounds nice, however unrealistic it is.
quote:Not this..
Lol....
quote:and I have no pity on Black Thugs who murder other blacks. If Found Guilty without a doubt, They deserve the death penelty IMO and not more wasted Tax Dollars.
Does this apply only to black on black crimes or all murders in general? Should we have some special law for black victims of black crime that the perp should be sentenced to death? I don't see how that can make any sort of sense
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quote:Originally posted by Just Call me Jari: ^^^^ Im dead serious
Oh, I see you were speaking of the hypothetical "black nation". Regardless, I still find some issue with some of the things said...
quote:Im not living or putting up with Uneducated dead beats. The Intelligencia and Bougerie of the Black Diaspora should Control and set limits to citizenship if a Black Nation was formed. If not the same problems would happen over again. Any one who has lived around an uneducated jobless black person would agree.
No nation can possibly become a Utopia.
Do you think that these "uneducated jobless black people", or any people who are jobless and uneducated for that matter, choose to be in the position they're in, i.e., poor and jobless?
quote:When I think of a Black Nation I think of this..
A Nation filled with wealthy educated doctors? That sounds nice, however unrealistic it is.
quote:Not this..
Lol....
quote:and I have no pity on Black Thugs who murder other blacks. If Found Guilty without a doubt, They deserve the death penelty IMO and not more wasted Tax Dollars.
Does this apply only to black on black crimes or all murders in general? Should we have some special law for black victims of black crime that the perp should be sentenced to death? I don't see how that can make any sort of sense
Calabooz'-
I dunno about you, but the word 'elitist' comes to mind....
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I dunno about you, but the word 'elitist' comes to mind....
Not to mention some sort of "blame the victim mentality"/people can succeed if they try hard enough mentality.... but yeah, that's sort of the impression I'm getting here
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king of the hypothetical "black nation". Regardless, I still find some issue with some of the things said...
Exactly this nation would never exist. Too many things working against it.
No nation can possibly become a Utopia.
Nor do I advocate such an idea. I never said things would or should be perfect but certain limits should be placed for basic citizenship.
Do you think that these "uneducated jobless black people", or any people who are jobless and uneducated for that matter, choose to be in the position they're in, i.e., poor and jobless?
Im not talking about your ave. person who has worked a 9-5 for years because of Circumstances out of his control, or a Hard working person recenly laid off. When Im talking about "Uneducated and Jobless" people Im talking about those who are constantly in and out of Jail, Living off a Black Woman, Un educated and talking about how Education is "Acting White". So to answer your question YES, most of time these people CHOOSE to live the life they live. I have lived around blacks all my life and trust me I know damn well plenty of Black Men who choose to live in Povety stricken conditions because they think they are Gangsters or Thugs. Also I know blacks who have risen out of poverty by working their ass of, getting an education, etc.
There really is no excuse, I know Hispanics who work 3 jobs and sleep in their cars to make ends meet and come from the same poverty as blacks I know.
A Nation filled with wealthy educated doctors? That sounds nice, however unrealistic it is.
Doctors, Engineers, CEOs, Entreprneurs, Teachers, and any Educated or Competent black person with no outstanding Criminal Record. It is unrealistic but its the only kind of nation worth living in. I refuse to accept Jail Bait Thugs on the same level as the Black Intelligencia who work hard and get not credit, all we see about blacks in the media is "The first 48" or Maurry or Tyler Perry Coonism or BET Coonism.
Also Majority of Blacks are Hard Working, Competent, and Intelligent and Decent people. The Jail Bait "Thugs" are the Minority yet have the loudest voice.
quote:and I have no pity on Black Thugs who murder other blacks. If Found Guilty without a doubt, They deserve the death penelty IMO and not more wasted Tax Dollars.
Does this apply only to black on black crimes or all murders in general? Im talking about B on B. However Murders would not be granted citizenship anyway. In a Real World Cenario Turn on the First 48 Show and see how long you can Stomach or Fathom watching that with out Loathing the Cowardly Simple Minded peices of **** that infest our communities. Watch how they cry like little Bitches when the White man is interrogating them.
And you expect me to have pity or view those type of people in the same light as a Black Person who works hard and obeys common Human Ethical Conduct..??
Should we have some special law for black victims of black crime that the perp should be sentenced to death? I don't see how that can make any sort of sense
I honestly don't care what they do with them. Recently in my hometown a Black Girl was Killed at a party by some Nigga who got into an argument with someone at the party and just pulled up and started shooting randomly. The Girl was shot in the head and probably had no idea why she was killed or who did it.(the people who got into the argument were not even in the same room when the Perp. starting shooting).
A Young Black Girl in College prob. No older than 20 killed by some Uneducated Jail Bait who had prior convictions.
Save me the pity party when it comes to the Death Penalty, Does someone like that deserve the DP, Yes, but thanks to Bleeding Hearts He will live in an Air Conditioned Jail Cell off My Tax Dollars.
Recenlty the Bleeding Hearts in my city protested because a certain Jair had Imnamtes sleeping outside in Tents and not on Beds in the Air Conditioning.
I dunno about you, but the word 'elitist' comes to mind....
I might be Elitist but what ever. I have lived around blacks all my life and know who blacks operate. Im not shacked up in Whites Neighborhoods, and had my old Car and House broken into, my car several times over simple change.
I have no pity for Dead Beat povety stricken Jail bait, which is why Im not a B.N who seem to pander to these types and get angry when people like Bill Cosby speaks the truth.
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And Im not alone, Majority of Educated Middle class blacks want to live around Middle Class Educated blacks..or Middle Class Educated people which is why so many move to White Neighborhoods. I don't advocate that but I advocate Inteligencia of our comunities taking back control.
I mean who do you think ran things in our communities during segregation...LOL. Seriously..the black Jail bait Thug had it worse during Segregation.
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Lioness, You have not provided the actual words where the "black nationalists" actually say that they are such.
And your list? I thought you might have been referring to people who actually were fight for or defending a nation.
Perhaps Steve Biko--late--of South Africa is the closest to such I can think of. I doubt that any of your list fits the definition of "blacks fighting for an actual nation or defending one".
The Basques of Spain or the Kurds of Turkey could actually fit the definition of a nationalist group within a nation fighting for a separate nation.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Lioness, You have not provided the actual words where the "black nationalists" actually say that they are such.
And your list? I thought you might have been referring to people who actually were fight for or defending a nation.
Perhaps Steve Biko--late--of South Africa is the closest to such I can think of. I doubt that any of your list fits the definition of "blacks fighting for an actual nation or defending one".
The Basques of Spain or the Kurds of Turkey could actually fit the definition of a nationalist group within a nation fighting for a separate nation.
lamin stop nit picking, Black Nationalists want racial separation as policy
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Jari, I think you may have an unrealistic idea:
quote:Also Majority of Blacks are Hard Working, Competent, and Intelligent and Decent people. The Jail Bait "Thugs" are the Minority yet have the loudest voice.
So these are two types of black people according to you? What about Black people who are not "Jail bait thugs" and have no education who do not rise above the poverty line? I think that they are the majority.
quote:I have lived around blacks all my life and trust me I know damn well plenty of Black Men who choose to live in Povety stricken conditions because they think they are Gangsters or Thugs. Also I know blacks who have risen out of poverty by working their ass of, getting an education, etc.
It's unrealistic to think people can just rise out of poverty by working hard and getting an education with other factors. What are the percentages for that, really?
quote:I have no pity on Black Thugs who murder other blacks. If Found Guilty without a doubt, They deserve the death penelty IMO and not more wasted Tax Dollars.
Then you could look for a solution for preventing crime in at-risk youth....
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Black Nationalist as a Black American liberation struggle has a definite meaning differing from the general usage of nationalism applied to others elsewhere including blacks in Africa with nations on their own home lands.
Black Nationalists are people who want(ed) Black Americans to have a nation with land of their own in solution to their racial problems in the USA. As such there is/was no same set ideology held in common by Black Nationalists as at variance like say The Lost Found Nation of Islam vs The Republic of New Africa.
Competing Black American ideologies to relieve racial inequalities and injustice include Pan Africanism, Black Marxism and the wide variety of Integrationists.
Then there were organizations like Karenga's US that I don't know how to classify except under the inadequate term Black Power advocacy. Doubtless there are many others too.
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