The ancient egyptians were Caucasoid, so it no surprise they genetically cluster closesest to Europeans.
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I don't know what caucasoid really means, the term is too ambiguous, but I didn't realize that King Tut had European haplogroups.
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quote:I don't know what caucasoid really means, the term is too ambiguous, but I didn't realize that King Tut had European haplogroups.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=007225 Go here for a discussion of R1B And how can you look at any sculpture done in his lifetime by people who saw him and touched him and still reach the conclusion that he was White or even a Euro?? Cameroonians and Chadians are majority R1B and they looked like this.
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I am not talking about a statue I am talking about genes. R1b is European and Cameroonians are R* underived there is a difference
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What do you think he was? Take a look at his grandmother's mummy. Then take a look at her parents mummies. He was at least half caucasian, but no one is certain yet but the people that tested his dna.
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Although human Y chromosomes belonging to haplogroup R1b are quite rare in Africa, being found mainly in Asia and Europe, a group of chromosomes within the paragroup R-P25* are found concentrated in the central-western part of the African continent, where they can be detected at frequencies as high as 95%. Phylogenetic evidence and coalescence time estimates suggest that R-P25* chromosomes (or their phylogenetic ancestor) may have been carried to Africa by an Asia-to-Africa back migration in prehistoric times. Here, we describe six new mutations that define the relationships among the African R-P25* Y chromosomes and between these African chromosomes and earlier reported R-P25 Eurasian sub-lineages. The incorporation of these new mutations into a phylogeny of the R1b haplogroup led to the identification of a new clade (R1b1a or R-V88) encompassing all the African R-P25* and about half of the few European/west Asian R-P25* chromosomes. A worldwide phylogeographic analysis of the R1b haplogroup provided strong support to the Asia-to-Africa back-migration hypothesis. The analysis of the distribution of the R-V88 haplogroup in >1800 males from 69 African populations revealed a striking genetic contiguity between the Chadic-speaking peoples from the central Sahel and several other Afroasiatic-speaking groups from North Africa. The R-V88 coalescence time was estimated at 9200–5600 kya, in the early mid Holocene. We suggest that R-V88 is a paternal genetic record of the proposed mid-Holocene migration of proto-Chadic Afroasiatic speakers through the Central Sahara into the Lake Chad Basin, and geomorphological evidence is consistent with this view. http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v18/n7/abs/ejhg2009231a.html So Tut was an Afroasitic speaker was he not? born on the African continent was he not? His parents or ancestors came from upper Kemet where there is a direct line to Sudan and Chad,so why if he indeed carries R1b why not look for it Africa itself, which R did Tut belonged to?
Originally posted by alTakruri: Evidently very little thought was given to this "proposal" before it was posted. But then, considering the source, ... .
1. No UEP from Tut means no known haplogroup period.
2. Tut's common 16 STR haplotype is unpublished. Only unsubstantiated guesswork is currently available.
3. The son of the Hittite king was assasinated en route to Egypt. There was no infusion of Hittite maless into Ae's royalty. It was AE royal males who concubined Hittites.
4. Even had the marriage been consumated there's no way Tut's widow could effect the dead man's Y chromosome.
Also from here The screen at 1:09 into the segment does have all 16 STRs forensic databases use for their haplotypes. So yes there are enough STRs to establish a haplotype but there's nothing official to establish the values on that screen as definitely Tut's, even though two of them are the same as given in Hawass(2010).
We do not know what haplogroup Tut belongs to, and consequently which haplogroups Tut doesn't belong to.
Me. All those vids are urban legends as far as I know it has not been released but please klik the links.
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Geez folks, Concerned_African is just another idiot Albino troll, I would have thought that you were used to them by now.
BTW - shame on you for letting him get away with the nonsense "European Haplogroup" there is no such thing as a European haplogroup. Europeans are Black Albinos, therefore whatever haplogroup an Albino has, there must also be a group of "Normal" Blacks with the same haplogroup.
Case in point: The troll cites R1 as being the Ha,ha, White haplogroup. Well if it's the He,he "White haplogroup" then what are these ancient Blacks in Germany doing with it?
Results of the DNA tests indicate that in the Nuclear family, the Father was Y-dna R1a, the Mother was MTdna - K
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That is why they conquered Africa and Southern Europe. So many of us are too easy to get played.
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BTW. Do anyone of you think Gaddafi is really dead? The MO is eerily like OBL What's up with the unmarked graves thing?
Same story line.. . . .
Obama is batting 100
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: What do you think he was? Take a look at his grandmother's mummy. Then take a look at her parents mummies. He was at least half caucasian, but no one is certain yet but the people that tested his dna.
Read the post above. Yes, that goes for you too.
Only in this case it's a pipe-dream. Internet hype.
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quote:Originally posted by asante: King tut was not white he was a native egyptian
Yes, as simple as it is explained. As simple it is. Nothing else.
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quote:Originally posted by blaccentric bull: Denial is a river in Egypt, in which many Afrocentrists love to take a dip.
Especially when retarded rednecks such as yourself are being slapped all over the place with peer reviewed credible academic evidence, time and time again.
go cry me a river.
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quote:Originally posted by blaccentric bull: Denial is a river in Egypt, in which many Afrocentrists love to take a dip.
Especially when retarded rednecks such as yourself are being slapped all over the place with peer reviewed credible academic evidence, time and time again.
go cry me a river.
funny you mentioned peer reviewed, since no peer reviewed articles have ever been written supporting the afronut assertion the ancient egyptians were black. Mainstream egyptology and scholarship is against afrocentrism.
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quote:Originally posted by blaccentric bull: Denial is a river in Egypt, in which many Afrocentrists love to take a dip.
Especially when retarded rednecks such as yourself are being slapped all over the place with peer reviewed credible academic evidence, time and time again.
go cry me a river.
funny you mentioned peer reviewed, since no peer reviewed articles have ever been written supporting the afronut assertion the ancient egyptians were black. Mainstream egyptology and scholarship is against afrocentrism.
Yes, they have been posted time and time again.
But you are too stupid to interpret them. Which is funny and quite amusing.
That is because you are a retarded hilly billy.
Your last sentence was quite revealing too. Dumb arse...lol
Go cry me a river.
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How many times must we explain that the video shows scientists putting in samples for a CONTROL group showing European ancestry NOT Tut himself!! We have had 3 maybe 4 threads on the issue now already!! So far scientists have kept Tut's Y haplotype secret and not open to the public. I suspect if he did have a 'European' haplotype it would have been made public a LONG time ago!
In the meantime. Is Tut white??
I think not!
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Geez folks, Concerned_African is just another idiot Albino troll, I would have thought that you were used to them by now.
BTW - shame on you for letting him get away with the nonsense "European Haplogroup" there is no such thing as a European haplogroup. Europeans are Black Albinos, therefore whatever haplogroup an Albino has, there must also be a group of "Normal" Blacks with the same haplogroup.
Case in point: The troll cites R1 as being the Ha,ha, White haplogroup. Well if it's the He,he "White haplogroup" then what are these ancient Blacks in Germany doing with it?
Results of the DNA tests indicate that in the Nuclear family, the Father was Y-dna R1a, the Mother was MTdna - K
Obviously you are delusional and insecure if you think I am an idiot. I know you aren't educated and all you do is read Wikipedia.
All things aside, r1b is European if you want to claim it to be white then fine. I asked a simple question and I get nothing, but insults. What happened to the infamous E3B gene? Now all the sudden they are R1b??? Something is fishy. All I am saying is, I knew this would happen, you inadequate people of African descent worried about Egypt because whites worship Egypt rather than worrying about where YOU come from in Africa.
Now it is definetly proven if Tut was from Ta-seti and he was R1B there is no damn way Egyptians were black and I am glad. Maybe now you can concentrate on the REAL Africa and not the white man's Africa.
Who the hell said those skeletons were black people in Germany you freak lol I remember your mongrel ass from a few years ago. You never give Africa credit you are always out of Africa painting black faces smh which is typical of a homo that came out of a white vagina Posts: 6 | Registered: Oct 2011
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"Europeans are Black Albinos, therefore whatever haplogroup an Albino has, there must also be a group of "Normal" Blacks with the same haplogroup."
Um LOL somehow amist this rediculous post I missed this statment LOLOL you are a dumb turd man please don't address me again you idiot lMAO!!!
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^ Yes, Mike111 is indeed a complete idiot who seeks to black paint every culture outside Africa as black African. But what of the converse?...
quote:Now it is definetly proven if Tut was from Ta-seti and he was R1B there is no damn way Egyptians were black and I am glad. Maybe now you can concentrate on the REAL Africa and not the white man's Africa.
And exactly where is it definitely proven that Tut had R1b?? Didn't I say that the video you posted is misinformed Eurocentric propaganda?? R1b was just one of several control samples used in Tut's DNA testing that didn't mean that it was his DNA. By the way, Tut's family came from Waset (Thebes) in Upper Egypt NOT from Ta-Seti which is further south. And you must be as nutty as Mike if you think either Egypt or Ta-Seti or any part of Africa for that matter ever belonged to the "white man". You realize because of the close relation Egyptians had to sub-Sahara that Euronuts are now trying to white-wash that region as well?! According to the Euronuts, ALL of Africa belongs to the white man!! If you don't believe me look at what the Euronuts have posted here about blacks being a recent mutation in Africa! LOLPosts: 26239 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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You're right! Just look at the lucious cascade of blonde hair blowing in the breeze in those lovely murals! His sparkling blue eyes tell the story of pale-tanned caucasian Egyptians in his era of existence, their super model Nordic and Arabic good looks reveal to us the mystery of their origins, which is obviously the good ol' caucasians created Egypt. You see while they traveled several thousand miles in a private jet, they snacked on a vast assortment of finger sandwiches.. Then their jet crashed landed into Mesopotamia, from there, they created Sumer, then hop-scotched to Arabia, creating Persia, then boogyed their way to other parts of Europe creating Greece and Rome, THEN they gyrated to Egypt and of course those beautiful supermodel Nordics and Arabs with their pale-tanned-yellow-reddish skin tones, lucious blonde and red tresses with blue/green eyes civilized the poor, primitive, negroid, African by putting them to.. Yes, brace yourselves... WORK!
NOW REFUTE WHAT I SAID I DARE YOU!
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quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: This may be repetitive, but Tutankhamun was a Beja, there is no doubt about it if you look at the features of the New kingdom pharaohs This is also confirmed by numerous Egyptologists and Anthropologists.
I wouldn't say king tut was a beja but this is probably how he looked
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^ and this is where you spam your usual pics of East Indians in an attempt to underscore your retarded thesis. Posts: 4254 | From: dasein | Registered: Jun 2009
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quote:Originally posted by LemonBalmParade: You're right! Just look at the lucious cascade of blonde hair blowing in the breeze in those lovely murals! His sparkling blue eyes tell the story of pale-tanned caucasian Egyptians in his era of existence, their super model Nordic and Arabic good looks reveal to us the mystery of their origins, which is obviously the good ol' caucasians created Egypt. You see while they traveled several thousand miles in a private jet, they snacked on a vast assortment of finger sandwiches.. Then their jet crashed landed into Mesopotamia, from there, they created Sumer, then hop-scotched to Arabia, creating Persia, then boogyed their way to other parts of Europe creating Greece and Rome, THEN they gyrated to Egypt and of course those beautiful supermodel Nordics and Arabs with their pale-tanned-yellow-reddish skin tones, lucious blonde and red tresses with blue/green eyes civilized the poor, primitive, negroid, African by putting them to.. Yes, brace yourselves... WORK!
NOW REFUTE WHAT I SAID I DARE YOU!
Negroids were not in Egypt (North Africa) when the Caucasoids arrived from the Mediterranean c. 12000 BC. The indigenous North Africans were the Capoids (Bushmen) who were then pushed south by the invading Caucasoids.
The Negroids only arrived in Egypt (as slaves) 2,000 BC, long after the Caucasoids.
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LOL, aren't you growing tired of participating in the same useless, circular argument that can never have a conclusive end? Of what value is there in Tut being White or black? Same for Jesus. None.
If they were "black" they were original, or mixed, close to original. If they were Albino, they were still African, but afflicted with genetic OCA defect with medically proven psychological and physical differences from originals.
The real question is; Original or genetic deviant? A question that can be (or most probably) has been answered by simple melanin testing, but not revealed due to the obvious and most probable answer. Once again we see the pseudo science of DNA being used to obscure truth.
Why make such a constant fuss over Oranges versus Tangerines?
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quote:Originally posted by LemonBalmParade: You're right! Just look at the lucious cascade of blonde hair blowing in the breeze in those lovely murals! His sparkling blue eyes tell the story of pale-tanned caucasian Egyptians in his era of existence, their super model Nordic and Arabic good looks reveal to us the mystery of their origins, which is obviously the good ol' caucasians created Egypt. You see while they traveled several thousand miles in a private jet, they snacked on a vast assortment of finger sandwiches.. Then their jet crashed landed into Mesopotamia, from there, they created Sumer, then hop-scotched to Arabia, creating Persia, then boogyed their way to other parts of Europe creating Greece and Rome, THEN they gyrated to Egypt and of course those beautiful supermodel Nordics and Arabs with their pale-tanned-yellow-reddish skin tones, lucious blonde and red tresses with blue/green eyes civilized the poor, primitive, negroid, African by putting them to.. Yes, brace yourselves... WORK!
NOW REFUTE WHAT I SAID I DARE YOU!
Negroids were not in Egypt (North Africa) when the Caucasoids arrived from the Mediterranean c. 12000 BC. The indigenous North Africans were the Capoids (Bushmen) who were then pushed south by the invading Caucasoids.
The Negroids only arrived in Egypt (as slaves) 2,000 BC, long after the Caucasoids.
lol at this retarded redneck.
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quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: Tutankhamun was a Beja...
This is also confirmed by numerous Egyptologists and Anthropologists.
How come you can't quote one saying that?
As for Beja features many people form many different regions in Africa and out of Africa have the same features.
Tutankhamun is portrayed looking differently in different pieces of art:
Just go clean the windows, dishes or something. Make yourself usefully there, what we speak of here is too complex for you to understand. It's obvious after all these years. With your distorted picture spammings.
You are a fake African by the way, an imposter black woman. Who does not even know where Nubia is at.lol
Clown!
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quote:Originally posted by LemonBalmParade: You're right! Just look at the lucious cascade of blonde hair blowing in the breeze in those lovely murals! His sparkling blue eyes tell the story of pale-tanned caucasian Egyptians in his era of existence, their super model Nordic and Arabic good looks reveal to us the mystery of their origins, which is obviously the good ol' caucasians created Egypt. You see while they traveled several thousand miles in a private jet, they snacked on a vast assortment of finger sandwiches.. Then their jet crashed landed into Mesopotamia, from there, they created Sumer, then hop-scotched to Arabia, creating Persia, then boogyed their way to other parts of Europe creating Greece and Rome, THEN they gyrated to Egypt and of course those beautiful supermodel Nordics and Arabs with their pale-tanned-yellow-reddish skin tones, lucious blonde and red tresses with blue/green eyes civilized the poor, primitive, negroid, African by putting them to.. Yes, brace yourselves... WORK!
NOW REFUTE WHAT I SAID I DARE YOU!
Are you on crack or meth?
Or bored and just joking, because I do sense some sarc here.
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quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: This may be repetitive, but Tutankhamun was a Beja, there is no doubt about it if you look at the features of the New kingdom pharaohs This is also confirmed by numerous Egyptologists and Anthropologists.
I wouldn't say king tut was a beja but this is probably how he looked
Bejas are one of the tribes with ancient Egyptian ancestry.
Fact is, ancient Egyptians came from the South. In a multitude of streams from the Sahel and Sahara region.
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^^^^ I Like how she asks folks to provide books and sources when they say a people who live and have lived in the Nile Valley for thousands of years have ancestry from dynastic Egyptians, but will start B.S threads claiming Egyptians are Indians.
Beja ancestors were Medjai in New Kingdom Dynastic Egypt. Their people are tied to the indentity of the Nile Valle from Egypt down to Eritria and Ethiopia.
They are connected to the 12th dynasty, 18th etc. Ta Seti etc.
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quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: This may be repetitive, but Tutankhamun was a Beja, there is no doubt about it if you look at the features of the New kingdom pharaohs This is also confirmed by numerous Egyptologists and Anthropologists.
I wouldn't say king tut was a beja but this is probably how he looked
Bejas are one of the tribes with ancient Egyptian ancestry.
Fact is, ancient Egyptians came from the South. In a multitude of streams from the Sahel and Sahara region.
All im saying is you cant be 100& sure what tribe king tut came from
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quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Bejas are one of the tribes with ancient Egyptian ancestry.
quote a book that says they are (not they might be)
I'lll wait
Hmmmmm, look my Indian friend, let's hypothetically say there is no book....on this than what? lol
Might be....lol
The problem with you is, you have no knowledge on indigenous people of that region. This and here is where you critically lack sense ability.
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quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: This may be repetitive, but Tutankhamun was a Beja, there is no doubt about it if you look at the features of the New kingdom pharaohs This is also confirmed by numerous Egyptologists and Anthropologists.
I wouldn't say king tut was a beja but this is probably how he looked
Bejas are one of the tribes with ancient Egyptian ancestry.
Fact is, ancient Egyptians came from the South. In a multitude of streams from the Sahel and Sahara region.
All im saying is you cant be 100& sure what tribe king tut came from
What tribe exactly I'm not sure. But foresure is:
"We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites... Long bone stature regression equations were then derived for each sex. Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites, proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical... Intralimb indices are not significantly different between Egyptians and American Blacks... brachial indices are definitely more ‘African ’... There is no evidence for significant variation in proportions among temporal or social groupings; thus, the new formula may be broadly applicable to ancient Egyptian remains." ("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature." Michelle H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff, Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman, Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008, Jun;136(2):147-5
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ I Like how she asks folks to provide books and sources when they say a people who live and have lived in the Nile Valley for thousands of years have ancestry from dynastic Egyptians, but will start B.S threads claiming Egyptians are Indians.
Beja ancestors were Medjai in New Kingdom Dynastic Egypt. Their people are tied to the indentity of the Nile Valle from Egypt down to Eritria and Ethiopia.
They are connected to the 12th dynasty, 18th etc. Ta Seti etc.
Yep, and even the Libyan desert.
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quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Bejas are one of the tribes with ancient Egyptian ancestry.
quote a book that says they are (not they might be)
I'lll wait
Hmmmmm, look my Indian friend, let's hypothetically say there is no book....on this than what? lol
Might be....lol
The problem with you is, you have no knowledge on indigenous people of that region. This and here is where you critically lack sense ability.
Also Nubia is in Sudan and Egypt. I have known that from day one. There are scholars who believe that the Beja might be related to the ancient Egyptians. It's not proven but may be true. I'm surpised you didn't have the quotes and just assumed it. Is that how you do?
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: "We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites...
why would ancient Egyptians be compared to black and white Americans? What is the purpose in doing that?
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quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Bejas are one of the tribes with ancient Egyptian ancestry.
quote a book that says they are (not they might be)
I'lll wait
Hmmmmm, look my Indian friend, let's hypothetically say there is no book....on this than what? lol
Might be....lol
The problem with you is, you have no knowledge on indigenous people of that region. This and here is where you critically lack sense ability.
Also Nubia is in Sudan and Egypt. I have known that from day one. There are scholars who believe that the Beja might be related to the ancient Egyptians. It's not proven but may be true. I'm surpised you didn't have the quotes and just assumed it. Is that how you do?
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: "We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites...
why would ancient Egyptians be compared to black and white Americans? What is the purpose in doing that?
My Indian friend,
Your first question was already responded to, by Jari. So there is no need to restate it.
Second, there was misconception and misunderstanding in certain groups/ circles. Wo claimed a different origin other than indiginous African. So the study was done to show which people are closer to the Egyptians. Indicating a similair root and background. Showing black Americans as people of African origin who are warm adapted and white Americans as Europeans who are cold adapted. And of course black Americans cluster with them, because they are of African origin just like Egyptians.
Badarians!!!!!!!!!
By the way, do you understand the word hypothetically? Smh.lol You only know now where Nubia is, after I explained it to you with a map, and formal instructions.
Here is more to debunk your claims. Again showing a continuity of the people who have lived in that same region for thousand up on thousands of years.
Origins of dental crowding and malocclusions: an anthropological perspective.
Rose JC, Roblee RD.
Compend Contin Educ Dent. 2009 Jun;30(5):292-300.
The study of ancient Egyptian skeletons from Amarna, Egypt reveals extensive tooth wear but very little dental crowding, unlike in modern Americans. In the early 20th century, Percy Raymond Begg focused his research on extreme tooth wear coincident with traditional diets to justify teeth removal during orthodontic treatment. Anthropologists studying skeletons that were excavated along the Nile Valley in Egypt and the Sudan have demonstrated reductions in tooth size and changes in the face, including decreased robustness associated with the development of agriculture, but without any increase in the frequency of dental crowding and malocclusion. For thousands of years, facial and dental reduction stayed in step, more or less. These analyses suggest it was not the reduction in tooth wear that increased crowding and malocclusion, but rather the tremendous reduction in the forces of mastication, which produced this extreme tooth wear and the subsequent reduced jaw involvement. Thus, as modern food preparation techniques spread throughout the world during the 19th century, so did dental crowding. This research provides support for the development of orthodontic therapies that increase jaw dimensions rather than the use of tooth removal to relieve crowding.
"Despite the difference, Gebel Ramlah [the Western Desert- Saharan region] is closest to predynastic and early dynastic samples from Abydos, Hierakonpolis, and Badari.."
the Badarians were a "good representative of what the common ancestor to all later predynastic and dynastic Egyptian peoples would be like"
"A comparison of Badari to the Naqada and Hierakonpolis samples .. contradicts the idea of a foreign origin for the Naqada (Petrie, 1939; Baumgartel, 1970)"
Evidence in favor of continuity is also demonstrated by comparison of individual samples. "Naqada and especially Hierakonpolis share close affinities with First-Second Dynasty Abydos.. These findings do not support the concept of a foreign dynastic ''race''"
"Thus, despite increasing foreign influence after the Second Intermediate Period, not only did Egyptian culture remain intact (Lloyd, 2000a), but the people themselves, as represented by the dental samples, appear biologically constant as well."
(Joel D. Irish (2006). Who Were the Ancient Egyptians? Dental Affinities Among Neolithic Through Postdynastic Peoples. Am J Phys Anthropol. 2006 Apr;129(4):529-43.)
Africans have the highest dental diversity "Previous research by the first author revealed that, relative to other modern peoples, sub-Saharan Africans exhibit the highest frequencies of ancestral (or plesiomorphic) dental traits... The fact that sub-Saharan Africans express these apparently plesiomorphic characters, along with additional information on their affinity to other modern populations, evident intra-population heterogeneity, and a world-wide dental cline emanating from the sub-continent, provides further evidence that is consistent with an African origin model." (Irish JD, Guatelli-Steinberg D.(2003) Ancient teeth and modern human origins: an expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples. Hum Evol. 2003 Aug;45(2):113-44.)
The pattern is always the same. Moving from the South up to the North.
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