quote:Originally posted by the lioness: why would ancient Egyptians be compared to black and white Americans? What is the purpose in doing that?
My Indian friend,
Your first question was already responded to, by Jari. So there is no need to restate it.
Second, there was misconception and misunderstanding in certain groups/ circles.
what groups and circles had a misunderstanding?
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
So the study was done to show which people are closer to the Egyptians. Indicating a similair root and background. Showing black Americans as people of African origin who are warm adapted and white Americans as Europeans who are cold adapted. And of course black Americans cluster with them, because they are of African origin just like Egyptians.
Badarians!!!!!!!!! [/QB]
If there are tropically adpated people in Africa and Egypt is in Africa why would a study about Egypt use Americans for comparisons, rather than places like the rest of Africa, the Middle East, Eurasia, places you can actually walk to from Egypt?
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: why would ancient Egyptians be compared to black and white Americans? What is the purpose in doing that?
My Indian friend,
Your first question was already responded to, by Jari. So there is no need to restate it.
Second, there was misconception and misunderstanding in certain groups/ circles.
what groups and circles had a misunderstanding?
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
So the study was done to show which people are closer to the Egyptians. Indicating a similair root and background. Showing black Americans as people of African origin who are warm adapted and white Americans as Europeans who are cold adapted. And of course black Americans cluster with them, because they are of African origin just like Egyptians.
Badarians!!!!!!!!!
If there are tropically adpated people in Africa and Egypt is in Africa why would a study about Egypt use Americans for comparisons, rather than places like the rest of Africa, the Middle East, Eurasia, places you can actually walk to from Egypt? [/QB]
First of all, Egypt is Africa. So there is another of your false claims. Keep making these mistakes, fake black woman.
Now, the groups are those who were under the assumption that ancient Egyptians were Europeans or other foreigners. Just like you are still doing.
Other comperisons have been posted here many times already.. . But your question tells me that you're either are senile or just crazy.
Your Eurasians are cold adapted. Sorry.
DNA analysis shows that Egyptians group with African peoples from the Sudan, Ethiopia, East Africa and parts of Cameroon, not with Europe or the Middle East. Notes on E-M78 and Rosa DNA study linking Egyptians with East and Central Africans. DNA study (Rosa et al. 2007) groups Egyptians with East and Central Africans. Other DNA studies link these peoples together. Quote:“the majority of Y chromosomes found in populations in Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia and Oromos in Somalia and North Kenya (Boranas) belong to haplogroup E3b1 defined by the Y chromosome marker M78“(Sanchez 2005). Codes: Egy=Egypt. Or= Oromo, Ethiopia. Am=Amahara, Ethiopia. Sud=Sudan. FCA=Cameroon. Maa= Massai, Kenya. Note: Eighty (80)% or more of the haplotypes in Cameroon are of West African origin (Rosa et al. 2007, Cerny et al. 2006). Ethiopia, Cameroon and most of the Sudan is located below the Sahara, and thus sub-Saharan.-- Rosa, et al.(2007) Y-chromosomal diversity in the population of Guinea-Bissau. BMC Evolutionary Biology. 7:124
Comparisons of linear body proportions of Old Kingdom and non-Old Kingdom period individuals, and workers and high officials in our sample found no statistically significant differences among them. Zakrzewski (2003) also found little evidence for differences in linear body proportions of Egyptians over a wider temporal range. In general, recent studies of skeletal variation among ancient Egyptians support scenarios of biological continuity through time. Irish (2006) analyzed quantitative and qualitative dental traits of 996 Egyptians from Neolithic through Roman periods, reporting the presence of a few outliers but concluding that the dental samples appear to be largely homogeneous and that the affinities observed indicate overall biological uniformity and continuity from Predynastic through Dynastic and Postdynastic periods.
Zakrzewski (2007) provided a comprehensive summary of previous Egyptian craniometric studies and examined Egyptian crania from six time periods. She found that the earlier samples were relatively more homogeneous in comparison to the later groups. However, overall results indicated genetic continuity over the Egyptian Predynastic and Early Dynastic periods, albeit with a high level of genetic diversity within the population, suggesting an indigenous process of state formation. She also concluded that while the biological patterning of the Egyptian population varied across time, no consistent temporal or spatial trends are apparent. Thus, the stature estimation formulae developed here may be broadly applicable to all ancient Egyptian populations..".
("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature." Michelle H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff, Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman, Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008, Jun;136(2):147-55
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I'm not Indian but did you every notice that the wood bust of King Tut looks like an Indian boy? Could be just a coincidence. Clyde said the Kushites looked liked Dravidians so it's o.k. Also notice I don't wriggle I slide
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I'm not Indian but did you every notice that the wood bust of King Tut looks like an Indian boy? Could be just a coincidence. Clyde said the Kushites looked liked Dravidians so it's o.k. Also notice I don't wriggle I slide
Tut was not related to any indian. Tut and his family were all related to Bisharin. Thats the real story
I said he is, in one particualr scuplture "looks like" -but is not necessarily actually related to.
You say people of the Bisharin tribe are related to Tut. Do you have proof?
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^ Regardless, the Beja and encompassing tribes like Bisharin are indigenous northeast Africans just like the Egyptians so of course there would be a close relation.
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cheek swab the big lie Only about 2% of the human genome contains genes; the remainder consists of non-coding regions, whose functions vary from providing structure to the chromosome, to having no detectable purpose. It is these non-coding segments ( ??!! ) that are being compared for genealogical purposes. Humans have a total of 46 chromosomes, which are grouped into pairs. Each of the 23 pairs consists of one chromosome from our mother and one from our father. In females the 23rd chromosome pair consists of two X-chromosomes. Males, however, have an X-chromosome and a Y-chromosome. It is, therefore, the Y-chromosome (Ycs) that determines the male gender. It is also the Y-chromosome (Ycs) that is one of the most useful chromosomes in genealogical studies ( ??!!) . The Y-chromosome has the unique property of being passed virtually unchanged from generation to generation ( how they sure about this , if this right this will trace our ancestry chain to our first father Adam???! ). This means that a man and all his sons will have the same, or similar, Y-chromosome. Likewise, he will have the same Y-chromosome as his father and grandfather and so on. This gives the Y-chromosome the unique property of following the surname, in most cases ( what this mean , there are cases where this stupid trace does not work can some smart one in this forum explain ) which makes it a very valuable genealogical tool. In addition to DNA found within the nucleus of the cell, DNA can also be found in the mitochondria of the cell. The mitochondria is the power house of the cell. It is responsible for producing energy to perform all the cellular functions. The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) follows the direct maternal line. Women pass their mtDNA to all of their children ( oh lala keep going in your stupid non sense assumptions that mean this stupid journey will take us to our first mother eve???!! ) but then only the daughters will pass it on to the next generation. The type of testing performed by Ancestry.com DNA is limited to areas of DNA that have the greatest application to genealogy which reveal insight into family relatedness ( why ). Heritage markers are within the non-coding regions and do not provide distinguishing information about an individual such as hair color ( ??). Typically there are three main kinds of analysis performed for genealogical purposes: DNA sequencing, Single Nucleotide Polymorphism testing (SNPs), and Short Tandem Repeat testing (STRs). Ancient Ancestry - Haplogroups Back About Haplogroups Humans began to diversify as they migrated out of Africa ( why africa why not another place another stupid assumption )and populated the rest of the world, adapting to new climates, diets, and living conditions ( so that is why climatic conditions turn this Africans to blondes in Europe just like that ??? what a stupidity). Over tens of thousands of years ( again another assumption )these ancient populations became isolated and their DNA changed until they became genetically distinct from one another. These deep ancestral groupings are referred to today as haplogroups ( oh really tank you ).Through DNA testing, we can track the branching of haplogroups and their subgroups from the original African home and thus discover interesting facts ( not interesting fact it's interesting assumption it can be right or wrong ) about our own ancient ancestors' movements across time and geography. Ancestry.com DNA provides a complimentary haplogroup prediction with each Y-chromosome or mtDNA test. Paternal Ancient Ancestry Your Y-chromosome haplogroup can provide an interesting glimpse into the deep ancestry of your paternal line. Every race of people indigenous to this earth is a member of a particular haplogroup. Your Paternal Ancient Ancestry (or Haplogroup) is predicted based on your Y-DNA results. You will receive the name of the haplogroup, a detailed description of the group, and a map showing how your ancient ancestors migrated out of Africa over 100,000 years ago ( omg 100000 years they sure about why not 100200 years or 100001?! another stupid assumption ) and split off to populate the different regions of the world. now people like Dana marniche and the lioness ....etc will take all these stupid assumptions and build astupid assumptions facts and urge everybody like they only have the truth????!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I'm not Indian but did you every notice that the wood bust of King Tut looks like an Indian boy? Could be just a coincidence. Clyde said the Kushites looked liked Dravidians so it's o.k. Also notice I don't wriggle I slide
Tut was not related to any indian. Tut and his family were all related to Bisharin. Thats the real story
I said he is, in one particualr scuplture "looks like" -but is not necessarily actually related to.
You say people of the Bisharin tribe are related to Tut. Do you have proof?
various Tutankhamuns:
Hard and soft data proves that AE were indigenous Saharan/ Sahelian Africans from the South. as was shown time and time again!
Your spamming doesn't help your stinking imposter ass!
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King Tut had a long head;enlarged incisors,pronounced aveolar prognathism with a resulting overbite;receding chin and thick lips.Now which racial or ethnic group would this genetic phenotype "fit."
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