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The Original Arabs were Black Cushites..

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Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins.
T W Holliday

Body proportions covary with climate, apparently as the result of climatic selection. Ontogenic research and migrant studies have demonstrated that body proportions are largely genetically controlled and are under low selective rates; thus studies of body form can provide evidence for evolutionarily short-term dispersals and/or gene flow. Following these observations, competing models of modern human origins yield different predictions concerning body proportion shifts in Late Pleistocene Europe. Replacement predicts that the earliest modern Europeans will possess "tropical" body proportions (assuming Africa is the center of origin), while Regional Continuity permits only minor shifts in body shape, due to climatic change and/or improved cultural buffering. This study tests these predictions via analyses of osteometric data reflective of trunk height and breadth, limb proportions and relative body mass for samples of Early Upper Paleolithic (EUP), Late Upper Paleolithic (LUP) and Mesolithic (MES) humans and 13 recent African and European populations. Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. These results refute the hypothesis of local continuity in Europe, and are consistent with an interpretation of elevated gene flow (and population dispersal?) from Africa, followed by subsequent climatic adaptation to colder conditions. These data do not, however, preclude the possibility of some (albeit small) contribution of genes from Neandertals to succeeding populations, as is postulated in Bräuer's "Afro-European Sapiens" model.

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Brachial and crural indices of European late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans.

T W Holliday

Among recent humans brachial and crural indices are positively correlated with mean annual temperature, such that high indices are found in tropical groups. However, despite inhabiting glacial Europe, the Upper Paleolithic Europeans possessed high indices, prompting Trinkaus (1981) to argue for gene flow from warmer regions associated with modern human emergence in Europe. In contrast, Frayer et al.(1993) point out that Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans should not exhibit tropically-adapted limb proportions, since, even assuming replacement, their ancestors had experienced cold stress in glacial Europe for at least 12 millennia. This study investigates three questions tied to the brachial and crural indices among Late Pleistocene and recent humans. First, which limb segments (either proximal or distal) are primarily responsible for variation in brachial and crural indices? Second, are these indices reflective of overall limb elongation? And finally, do the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans retain relatively and/or absolutely long limbs? Results indicate that in the lower limb, the distal limb segment contributes most of the variability to intralimb proportions, while in the upper limb the proximal and distal limb segments appear to be equally variable. Additionally, brachial and crural indices do not appear to be a good measure of overall limb length, and thus, while the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans have significantly higher (i.e., tropically-adapted) brachial and crural indices than do recent Europeans, they also have shorter (i.e., cold-adapted) limbs. The somewhat paradoxical retention of "tropical" indices in the context of more "cold-adapted" limb length is best explained as evidence for Replacement in the European Late Pleistocene, followed by gradual cold adaptation in glacial Europe.

You are a recent adaption to Humanity..Sand Nigger..


quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
They are the ancestors of Caucasoids.


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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
The indigenous Arabians i believe are Veddoid, just like India, but they only survive pure-blooded in very small pockets. I believe the darker Arab racial types have a higher degree of Veddid admixture, i don't believe they are pure-blooded Caucasoids who just aquired a darker skin tone through climatic adaptation.

They are proto-Caucasoid or dark Caucasoids and racially non-Negroid. For example the most prominent native maternal marker in the Arabian plateau R0 is the ancestor of the most common European maternal marker H. They are the ancestors of Caucasoids.
Yep, Veddoids are not Negroids but Australoid, but you think this is what caucasoid sprung from? My view on caucasoid origins is the polycentric Coonian evolution: H. Erectus > ? > Heidelberg Man > Neanderthal > Cro-Magnon > Caucasoid.
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"Pure white evolution led to Neanderthals both
in terms of paler skin and cold-adaptive limb proportions.
African evolution led to anatomically modern
humans.



QUOTE:
"What was different about the Neanderthals?
What did the Cro- Magnons think when they saw
them for the first time? To begin with, the
Neanderthals were very light-skinned and the Cro-
Magnons were less so. "


--Juan Luis Arsuaga, Andy Klatt. 2004. The Neanderthal's
Necklace: In Search of the First Thinkers

"This finding suggests that Neanderthals evolved
a functional variant of the MC1R gene independently
from modern humans as they dispersed into northerly
latitudes, and thus supports the inference for the
convergent evolution of depigmented skin in the
Neanderthals lineage.."

--Michael P. Muehlenbein. 2010. Human Evolutionary Biology

"Regarding environmental buffering, Trinkaus
(1986 and this volume) reiterates that while
Neanderthal limb proportions are suggestive of
cold adaptation, no such indications are shown by
Eurasian early modern humans. Their distinct
limb proportions are instead indicative of an
equatorial ancestry and better culturally based
thermal protection.. the limb proportions of the
Eurasian early modern samples are retentions of
the African ancestral morphology of long limbs
with long distal segments.."

-- Erik Trinkaus (ed), 'The Emergence of Modern Humans", (C. Stringer p. 88).
School of American Research, Santa Fe, New Mexico, 1989.


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Some white "Racial Reality" or "biodiversity" proponents
argue for European descent from NEanderthals "untainted"
by Africa- a lily white "pure" line of white evolution.

Fine. Lets go with their approach for a moment.

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Using it, we see then that the first whites were cold-adapted
Neanderthals that failed to progress beyond the Stone Age
despite a sometimes favorable environment with
rich resources available (Lewin 1994). Ice Age Europe was not
a cold hell but had variable climate and rich
forest, woodland and aquatic resources, including
ancient variants of wheat-like spelt and chick
peas in place that could have been domesticated,
along with ancestors of sheep, cattle and pigs.
Despite tens of thousands of years with these advantages
and resources however, white lineages failed to move
beyond the Stone Age.

Thus, using the "biodiversity" approach, the first
great "racial" split in the humanoid line involved
white Neanderthals who colonized Europe, and Africans,
who colonized Africa and went on to become anatomically
modern humans.

The first “pure” white genetic output was thus
brutish, primitive, dead end Neanderthals. By
contrast, it was Africa that produced the future
of humanity- anatomically modern humans, not
cold-climate Europe. White NEanderthals survived,
until they were supplanted by more advanced, modern
tropically adapted humans from Africa that mingled
with and replaced them. This would be the first instance
of the hybridization that produced today's white Europeans.
It was the coming of tropically adapted African variants into
Europe that caused Europe to progress beyond the brutish
“pure” white Neanderthal lineages. Continuing migrations
from Africa and a mixture of African and Asian
OOA migrants- all anatomically modern humans- caused
a second round of mixed breeding in EUrope, and was
to eventually replace the pure white Neanderthal
lineages to yield today's European hybrid population.
QUOTE:

^^"Middle Pleistocene Diversity in Africa and the Origin of Modern Humans
Günter Bräuer1
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There is wide agreement on a speciation event in Africa at around 0.8 or 0.9 mya when
Homo erectus (or Homo ergaster) gave rise to a species named Homo heidelbergensis,
or Homo rhodesiensis, or Homo sapiens. The new species expanded into Europe leading
to the Neanderthal lineage, whereas in Africa it evolved into anatomically modern
humans. The lineage of anatomical modernization can be subdivided into three groups,
morphs, or grades: an early one including Bodo, Saldanha, Kabwe, Salé, a subsequent
one including Florisbad, Laetoli H 18, Ileret (ER 3884), Jebel Irhoud, and early
anatomically moderns with Omo Kibish, Herto and others."

--Günter Bräuer, "Middle Pleistocene
Diversity in Africa and the Origin of Modern
Humans". IN:
Modern Origins: A North African Perspective. 2012.
Series: Vertebrate Paleobiology and Paleoanthropology
Hublin, Jean-Jacques; McPherron, Shannon P. (Eds.)

And

” Holliday (2000) examined postcranial morphology
of the varied Levantine hominids from Qafzeh and
Skhul(anatomically modern) and from Amud, Kebara
and Tabun (Neanderthal). He determined that they
were morphologically distinct; the anatomically
moderns had tropically adapted body proportions,
suggesting African origins, while the Neanderthals
had cold adapted body proportions, suggesting European origins.”

--Holliday 2000

This then could be another source of the Eurocentric
inferiority complex. Pure white genetics produced only
the savage Neanderthals. Africa by contrast, produced
a better, more advanced human than white lineages.
Today's whites still show some traces of Neanderthal
genes, a throwback to their savage evolution. Some
white writers argue that this Neanderthal remnant,
could account for the white penchant for violence
and murder. R. Bradley, advances this this theory
in "The Iceman Inheritance."

So under this biodiversity approach, why then
didn't pure white Europeans stay as NEanderthals?
According to Bradley, they were replaced with the more
advanced Africans and Asians. This diluted the savage
white NEanderthal lineages, producing a better level
of humanity. However the violent, savage nature of
whites still remains, due to remnants of Neanderthal genes.
Recent scientific findings showing European whites
have traces of Neanderthal genes have been used by
some claimants to support the Iceman theory. Some
disagree with Bradley. Others argue that his theory of white
ice age adaptation is true. Racial "biodiversity"
proponents share general agreement along a spectrum
with its central holding of pure white evolutionary
lineages, "untainted" by "negro blood."


White European lineages [Neanderthals] were the first humans to engage in cannibalism

"Cannibalism is a good example. Several Mousterian sites,
along which Moula-Guercy (France) stands out, have provided
reasonably firm evidence of anthropic action on Neanderthal
bones.. Defleur and colleagues (1999) compared the patters of
ungulate and Neanderthal bones, the skeletal parts that were
found and the tool marks on the bone fragments. They concluded
that all the fragments with marks indicate prey that had been subject
to butchery. This suggests that cannibalistic oractices existed among
the Neanderthals.. But the question of cannibalism can be understood
in another way. When Wolpoff was asked about the meaning of the
evidence found at Moula-Guercy, he replied with a question: why
should modern humans be the only violent ones? Arsuaga went even
further in believing that Neanderthal cannibalistic behavior actually
constituted a very human behavior, which revealed a human mind
(Both cited by Culotta, 1999). "

--Camilo J. Cela-Conde, Francisco José Ayala, 2007. Human evolution: trails from the past.


"But recent excavation by Alban Delfeur and Tim White at the
100,000 year old French cave of Moula-Guercy has demonstrated
cannibalism beyond any reasonable doubt. The site contains butchered
animal remains, predominantly red deer. Among the bones are the skulls
of two young Neanderthals, their masseter muscles filleted and the tongue
removed from at least one of them; the cut marks on the inner face of the
mandible are virtually identical with those mode on the inside of the
12,5000-year-old modern human mandible from Gough's (New) Cave,
[England] described in Chapter 3 (see p. 80). Crania of both deer and
Neanderthals were broken open to get at the marrow.."

--Timothy Taylor. 2005. The Buried Soul: How Humans Invented Death

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^ Cro-Magnon were proto-Caucasoid. Their skulls were orthognathic, they had straight-wavy hair, and thin noses.

Cro-Magnon crania analysis clusters them closest to modern White Europeans, than any other race.

''If Upper Paleolithic people were "European" from about 35,000 B.P., then such population distinctions are at least that old. And the Cro-Magnons were already racially European, i.e., Caucasoid. This has always been accepted because of the general appearance of the skulls: straight faces, narrow noses, and so forth. It is also possible to test this arithmetically. [...] Except for Predmosti 4, which is distant from every present and past population, all of these skulls show themselves to be closer to "Europeans" than to other peoples — Mladec and Abri Pataud comfortably so, the other two much more remotely.''
- Howells (1997)

Your claim that cro-magnons were non-white is laughable.

Cro-magnon crania is closest to modern white people, not negroes. Negroids don't descend from cro-magnon.

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quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
Ethiopia --> The dominant language and script is from Asia, virtually all of their technology was borrowed from Asians, their religion is West Eurasian derived, genes of the ruling Amhara-Tigray class is more than 50% Asian.

Nubia --> Copied a lot from Egypt, which in turn was heavily Middle Eastern influenced. Modern Nubians have over 50% haplogroup J and are mostly Middle Eastern by genes.

Swahili States --> The Swahili language is over 50% Arabic, it's barely a Bantu language. The ruling Swahili class is heavily Arab mixed. Ask any ethnic Swahili if he has Arab blood and he will confirm this for you.

J is not that widespread in sudan,it's mostly in north africa WERE you see the darker green in the map below and the areas where it shows a lighter green means most folks do not have J.


Areas that do not show the green means even less folks have it or no one has it.Only VERY FEW FOLKS in those areas will HAVE J or no one has J,meaning it's even less widepread then the areas that have the lighter green in the map below.

SO WRONG AGAIN.

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I will not go into MORE details here because it's a waste of time,but everything you said above was dead wrong,outdated and just out right lies,and you know it because of my past correct info and others who posted the correct info on this forum that you guys love to ignore.

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perahu like to ignore facts

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@cassiterides...

Human progress, evolution & advancement is integrated ,adapted , coincidental & accidental... so what's your excuse? ....


It's 2012 & your still incapable of original thought , plagiarizing articles & recycling topics...

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Richard D. Fuerle - Erectus walks amongst us... chapter 15 civilisations & achievements....


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QUOTE]UNoriginally posted by cassiterides:


Blacks had a chance to prove European colonisation was wrong.

But you failed.

Europeans colonised sub-saharan african countries giving them technology and great infrastructure but after european rule collapsed these countries have declined.

Blacks can not run their own countries without white aid.

If Black Africans were even capable of keeping a white-created civilization going, one would expect them to be much better off when Apartheid and the economic boycotts of South Africa ended in 1994 and the reins of this first world country were turned over to them.

But the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the average income of blacks in South Africa dropped 40% between 1995 and 2000.

The UN 2006 Human Development Report found that over the last 3 decades Africa has had a “virtual reversal” of human development; South Africa dropped 38 places on the Human Development Index since 1994. (UN Development Programme, 2007).

The country of the world’s first heart transplant (Christian Barnard, Dec., 1967), the Union of South Africa, introduced by whites, is now the rape and murder capital of the world after blacks have gained control.

The deterioration of South Africa since the end of Apartheid refutes egalitarianism.

No country ruled by blacks has escaped self-inflicted devastation; it is fair to conclude that blacks are incapable of achieving or maintaining a modern civilization when left to themselves.

Facts hurt don't they.

Simple logic -

If blacks could run a civilization why are countries now in sub-sahara africa where the whites have pulled out - completely declining?

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quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
The indigenous Arabians i believe are Veddoid, just like India, but they only survive pure-blooded in very small pockets. I believe the darker Arab racial types have a higher degree of Veddid admixture, i don't believe they are pure-blooded Caucasoids who just aquired a darker skin tone through climatic adaptation.

They are proto-Caucasoid or dark Caucasoids and racially non-Negroid. For example the most prominent native maternal marker in the Arabian plateau R0 is the ancestor of the most common European maternal marker H. They are the ancestors of Caucasoids.
Veddoid peopole are far more Negroid in appearance than the average Fulani or Tutsi.

Your system of classification just doesn't work except in your dreams.

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LOL, @ this quack even his Sand Nigger Slave does not agree with his "White Caucasian" b.s

The Original Arabs were Black Cushites..
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The Ancestors to Leukoderm Eurasians(Cacaziods for the mentally sensitive)-Perahu
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quote:
Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins.
T W Holliday

Body proportions covary with climate, apparently as the result of climatic selection. Ontogenic research and migrant studies have demonstrated that body proportions are largely genetically controlled and are under low selective rates; thus studies of body form can provide evidence for evolutionarily short-term dispersals and/or gene flow. Following these observations, competing models of modern human origins yield different predictions concerning body proportion shifts in Late Pleistocene Europe. Replacement predicts that the earliest modern Europeans will possess "tropical" body proportions (assuming Africa is the center of origin), while Regional Continuity permits only minor shifts in body shape, due to climatic change and/or improved cultural buffering. This study tests these predictions via analyses of osteometric data reflective of trunk height and breadth, limb proportions and relative body mass for samples of Early Upper Paleolithic (EUP), Late Upper Paleolithic (LUP) and Mesolithic (MES) humans and 13 recent African and European populations. Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. These results refute the hypothesis of local continuity in Europe, and are consistent with an interpretation of elevated gene flow (and population dispersal?) from Africa, followed by subsequent climatic adaptation to colder conditions. These data do not, however, preclude the possibility of some (albeit small) contribution of genes from Neandertals to succeeding populations, as is postulated in Bräuer's "Afro-European Sapiens" model.

quote:
Brachial and crural indices of European late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans.

T W Holliday

Among recent humans brachial and crural indices are positively correlated with mean annual temperature, such that high indices are found in tropical groups. However, despite inhabiting glacial Europe, the Upper Paleolithic Europeans possessed high indices, prompting Trinkaus (1981) to argue for gene flow from warmer regions associated with modern human emergence in Europe. In contrast, Frayer et al.(1993) point out that Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans should not exhibit tropically-adapted limb proportions, since, even assuming replacement, their ancestors had experienced cold stress in glacial Europe for at least 12 millennia. This study investigates three questions tied to the brachial and crural indices among Late Pleistocene and recent humans. First, which limb segments (either proximal or distal) are primarily responsible for variation in brachial and crural indices? Second, are these indices reflective of overall limb elongation? And finally, do the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans retain relatively and/or absolutely long limbs? Results indicate that in the lower limb, the distal limb segment contributes most of the variability to intralimb proportions, while in the upper limb the proximal and distal limb segments appear to be equally variable. Additionally, brachial and crural indices do not appear to be a good measure of overall limb length, and thus, while the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans have significantly higher (i.e., tropically-adapted) brachial and crural indices than do recent Europeans, they also have shorter (i.e., cold-adapted) limbs. The somewhat paradoxical retention of "tropical" indices in the context of more "cold-adapted" limb length is best explained as evidence for Replacement in the European Late Pleistocene, followed by gradual cold adaptation in glacial Europe.

quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
They(The Black Aboriginal Arabs) are the ancestors of Caucasoids.

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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
Blacks had a chance to prove European colonisation was wrong.

But you failed.

Europeans colonised sub-saharan african countries giving them technology and great infrastructure but after european rule collapsed these countries have declined.

Blacks can not run their own countries without white aid.

If Black Africans were even capable of keeping a white-created civilization going, one would expect them to be much better off when Apartheid and the economic boycotts of South Africa ended in 1994 and the reins of this first world country were turned over to them.

But the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the average income of blacks in South Africa dropped 40% between 1995 and 2000.

The UN 2006 Human Development Report found that over the last 3 decades Africa has had a “virtual reversal” of human development; South Africa dropped 38 places on the Human Development Index since 1994. (UN Development Programme, 2007).

The country of the world’s first heart transplant (Christian Barnard, Dec., 1967), the Union of South Africa, introduced by whites, is now the rape and murder capital of the world after blacks have gained control.

The deterioration of South Africa since the end of Apartheid refutes egalitarianism.

No country ruled by blacks has escaped self-inflicted devastation; it is fair to conclude that blacks are incapable of achieving or maintaining a modern civilization when left to themselves.

Facts hurt don't they.

Simple logic -

If blacks could run a civilization why are countries now in sub-sahara africa where the whites have pulled out - completely declining?

You are full of it,south africa is doing much better without white rule,income has gone up for blacks in south africa and blacks even when ruled by whites in south africa help made that country.

The new south africa is a new civilization and blacks are advancing it's culture.so have to tell you that you are DEAD WRONG and about everything else you said.

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quote:
Originally posted by element:
[QB] @cassiterides...

Human progress, evolution & advancement is integrated ,adapted , coincidental & accidental... so what's your excuse? ....


It's 2012 & your still incapable of original thought , plagiarizing articles & recycling topics..

If you check the original post in this thread i linked to the original source.

Since you've discovered that page, why not read it and admit it is the truth.

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quote:
Originally posted by Paironuts:

Look at South Sudan, without Caucasoid mixed North Sudanese rulers they resort back to their savage Nilotic behavior.

More than 3,000 killed in South Sudan ethnic violence

http://www.sudantribune.com/More-than-3000-killed-in-South,41204

I honesty doubt people like this build Ancient Nubia.

Ancient Nubians were probably more Caucasoid mixed/influenced than them.

I would laugh at the absurdity of your claims if it weren't for the horrible news, but what are we to make of the so-called caca-soid mixed Arab northerners who enslave, rape young children (including boys), boil children, and burn people alive and whose victims number in the millions. Last time I checked such acts are not part of traditional Nilotic culture.
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Haha, they are still Caucasoid despite their skin tone. To you race is probably skin tone, but it is much more than that (skull, hair, DNA, even dental studies reveal racial differences).

They are not Negroid and related to Congoid West Africans, their DNA is closer to people from Iceland than to Negroids. Deal with it. [Smile]

You have yet to define what race means (to you). If it is more than just skin tone then please define what a "cacasoid" and "negroid" are. Last time I checked you considered Ugandans to be caca-soid mixed and less "negroid" than African Americans. Of course even other white supremacists are not that insane but oh well. [Embarrassed]
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
Yep, Veddoids are not Negroids but Australoid, but you think this is what caucasoid sprung from? My view on caucasoid origins is the polycentric Coonian evolution: H. Erectus > ? > Heidelberg Man > Neanderthal > Cro-Magnon > Caucasoid.

Most of those dark Arabs aren't Veddoid, they are proto-Caucasoid. Their skull is mostly to completely Caucasoid (orthognathous, prominent noses, narrow faces). True Veddoids have broad features found in tropical India.

Also, genetically the native Arabians are ancestral to Europeans by way of maternal marker haplogroup R0 (ancestral to mtDNA H, which is the most common European mtDNA). Veddoid mtDNA M typical of India is more distant.

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quote:
Originally posted by osirion:
quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
The indigenous Arabians i believe are Veddoid, just like India, but they only survive pure-blooded in very small pockets. I believe the darker Arab racial types have a higher degree of Veddid admixture, i don't believe they are pure-blooded Caucasoids who just aquired a darker skin tone through climatic adaptation.

They are proto-Caucasoid or dark Caucasoids and racially non-Negroid. For example the most prominent native maternal marker in the Arabian plateau R0 is the ancestor of the most common European maternal marker H. They are the ancestors of Caucasoids.
Veddoid peopole are far more Negroid in appearance than the average Fulani or Tutsi.

Your system of classification just doesn't work except in your dreams.

Races:

1. Capoid

(a) Sanid (Bushmen) subrace
(b) Khoid (Hottentot) subrace

2. Negroid

(a) Bambutid or Pygmies (ancestral Negroids)
(b) Palaecongoid
(c) Sudanid
(d) Kafrid or Bantid

Hybrid Negroid subraces:

(a) Aethiopid (30 - 40% Caucasoid admixed)
(b) Nilotid (10 - 20% Caucasoid admixed)

3. Australoid

(a) Australian (Aborigine)
(b) Veddoid or Veddid
(i) Gongid
(ii) Malid

Hybrid Australoid subraces:

(a) Indo-Melanid (Indid-Veddid intermediate typical of the Dravidian-Caucasoid populations)
(b) Kolid (Indo-Melanid subvariety of the Santals, Munda, and other tribes of the northeastern Indian Subcontinent).
(c) Tasmanid (Australoid-Negrito admixed)

4. Mongoloid

(a) Palaemongoloid
(b) Tungid
(c) Sinid
(c) Indianid or Amerind
(i) Andid
(ii) Margid
(iii) Lagid
(d) Arctid
(i) Eskimid
(ii) Sibirid

Hybrid Mongoloid subraces:

Too many to list here.

5. Caucasoid

(a) Mediterranean
(i) Gracile Mediterranean
(ii) Atlanto-Mediterranean
(iii) Pontid
(b) Nordic
(c) Alpine
(d) Armenoid
(e) Lappid

Hybrid Caucasoid subraces:

Too many to list here. Most notably includes the Turanid phenotype (Caucasoid-Mongoloid) which is prevalent across Central Asia and Turkey.

^ i'm also missing loads of subraces out.

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Negroids love to claim all brown races as related to them, when in fact many of those races like Veddoids, proto-Caucasoids, Australoids, Capoids are extremely distant from Negroids genetically.

It's like White Caucasoids claiming White Mongoloids (like Japs) as related to them, lol, when in fact they are genetically and anthropometrically extremely distant.

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quote:
please define what a "cacasoid" and "negroid" are.
excluding the pigmentation of skin -

Caucasoid

Reduced or no prognathism (orthognathic)
Leptorrhine (thin) nose
Prominent nasal spine
Thin nasal bridge + interorbital area
Nasal Index: - 48 mm
Prominent nasal sill
Tear shaped nasal hole(s)
Prominent chin
Thin lips
Larger supraorbital (brow) ridges
Microdont (small) teeth
Cymotrichous (wavy) hair
Full range of hair and eye colours

Negroid

Extreme facial prognathism
Platyrrhine (wide) nose
Reduced nasal spine
Wide nasal bridge + interorbital area
Nasal Index: 53 + mm
Absent Nasal sill
Round shaped nasal hole(s)
Rounder chin
Thick lips
Reduced supraorbital (brow) ridges
Macrodont (large) teeth
Ulotrichous (wooly) hair
Only dark hair and dark eyes

Mongoloid

Moderate facial prognathism
Mesorrhine (medium) nose
Medium nasal spine
Moderate nasal bridge + interorbital area
Nasal Index: 48-53
Less prominent nasal sill
Oval shaped nasal hole(s)
Slightly prominent chin
Moderate lips
Small supraorbital (brow) ridges
Mesadont (medium) teeth
Shovel-shaped incisors
Leiotrichous (straight) hair
Epicanthic folds (slanted eyes)
Predominant dark hair and dark eyes

Sources

Bass, William M. 1995. Human
Osteology: A Laboratory and Field
Manual. Columbia: Missouri
Archaeological Society, Inc.

Coon, Origin of Races. 1962.

Eckert, William G. 1997. Introduction to
Forensic Science. United States of
America: CRC Press, Inc.

EI-Najjar, Mahmoud Y. and K Richard
McWilliams 1978. Forensic
Anthropology: The Structure,
Morphology and Variation of
Human Bone and Dentition. Illinois:
Charles C. Thomas.

Gill, George W. 1998. "Craniofacial
Criteria in the Skeletal Attribution
of Race. " In Forensic Osteology:
Advances in the Identification of
Human Remains. (2nd edition)
Reichs, Kathleen l(ed.), pp.293-
315.

Gill, George W. 1986. "Craniofacial
Criteria in Forensic Identification."
In Forensic Osteology: Advances in
the identification of Human
Remains. Reichs, KI(ed.). pp. 143-
159. Springfield: Charles C.

Krogman, Wilton Marion and Mehmet
Yascar Iscan 1986. The Human
Skeleton in Forensic Medicine.
Springfield: Charles C.Thomas.

Lahr, Marta Mirazon 1996. The
Evolution of Modern Human
Diversity: A Study of Cranial
Variation. Britain: University Press,
Cambridge. Thomas.

Post, Richard H. 1969. Tear Duet Size
Differences of Age, Sex and Race.
American Journal of Physical
Anthropology. 30:85-88.

Ubelaker, Douglas H. 1989. Human
Skeletal Remains: Excavation,
Analysis and Interpretation.
Washington: Taraxacum.

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So Called "Cacaziods" are nothing but depigmented Africans, you are not a seperate race nor are you superior. Arabs are the most ass backward people in history, even today their savage backward culture is at odds with modern Civilization.

H.G R possible evolved in Africa, and your ancestors came from Africa..


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Negroids love to claim all brown races as related to them, when in fact many of those races like Veddoids, proto-Caucasoids, Australoids, Capoids are extremely distant from Negroids genetically.

It's like White Caucasoids claiming White Mongoloids (like Japs) as related to them, lol, when in fact they are genetically and anthropometrically extremely distant.


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quote:
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perahu like to ignore facts

and the other nut.
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quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
Negroids love to claim all brown races as related to them, when in fact many of those races like Veddoids, proto-Caucasoids, Australoids, Capoids are extremely distant from Negroids genetically.

It's like White Caucasoids claiming White Mongoloids (like Japs) as related to them, lol, when in fact they are genetically and anthropometrically extremely distant.

They claim that ''africans'' have the most phenotypic diversity in the world.

However africa has been inhabited historically the longest time by the most races - so of course it has the most phenotypic diversity.

The afronuts though think all africans = one race, or that they are apart of some pseudo-grouping ''tropical africans'' when africans = caucasoid, capoid, negroid etc.

They cluster capoids, caucasoids etc as ''tropical african'' or ''black'' out of self-hatred of their own phenotype.

One thing i've noticed on this forum is that the black posters here all hate the negro phenotype. None of them want it and they want to cluster themselves with north africans who have finer less ugly features since they are caucasoid/or admixed.

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Hey Perahu have you ever seen the film 13th warrior?
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LOL, You have got to be kidding me. The main perpetraitors of violence in Sudan are the brainwashed Northern Sudanese who get their rapist violent tendencies from that collection of bullshit known as the Koran.

LMFAO, Dude Ive read that book, nothing but a violent Sex Cult, its so funny how you Leukoderm Arabs try to leech off of other civilizations. First Persia, then Andalucia, Then North Africa and Egypt and now you leeches are trying to steal Nubia..


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Look at South Sudan, without Caucasoid mixed North Sudanese rulers they resort back to their savage Nilotic behavior.

More than 3,000 killed in South Sudan ethnic violence

http://www.sudantribune.com/More-than-3000-killed-in-South,41204

I honesty doubt people like this build Ancient Nubia.

Ancient Nubians were probably more Caucasoid mixed/influenced than them.


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So Called "Cacaziods" are nothing but depigmented Africans
The only fully depigmentated Caucasoids are Nordics. Most Caucasoids are around 20 on the Luschan Scale - an olive or tanned complexion.

You are an embarrassment to anthropology, as you think race is merely defined by skin colour.

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Your Logic makes no sense...

First off White Asians did not originate in Europe, they originated in Asia, Tropical Africans the ancestors of both Cacaziods and Negriods originated in Africa.


If were not for Africans going to Europe and Mutating the genes for Lightskin, you would not exist.

Race is invalid, did you not suggest taking a basic Anthropology class...take your own advice.

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Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins.
T W Holliday

Body proportions covary with climate, apparently as the result of climatic selection. Ontogenic research and migrant studies have demonstrated that body proportions are largely genetically controlled and are under low selective rates; thus studies of body form can provide evidence for evolutionarily short-term dispersals and/or gene flow. Following these observations, competing models of modern human origins yield different predictions concerning body proportion shifts in Late Pleistocene Europe. Replacement predicts that the earliest modern Europeans will possess "tropical" body proportions (assuming Africa is the center of origin), while Regional Continuity permits only minor shifts in body shape, due to climatic change and/or improved cultural buffering. This study tests these predictions via analyses of osteometric data reflective of trunk height and breadth, limb proportions and relative body mass for samples of Early Upper Paleolithic (EUP), Late Upper Paleolithic (LUP) and Mesolithic (MES) humans and 13 recent African and European populations. Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. These results refute the hypothesis of local continuity in Europe, and are consistent with an interpretation of elevated gene flow (and population dispersal?) from Africa, followed by subsequent climatic adaptation to colder conditions. These data do not, however, preclude the possibility of some (albeit small) contribution of genes from Neandertals to succeeding populations, as is postulated in Bräuer's "Afro-European Sapiens" model.

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Brachial and crural indices of European late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans.

T W Holliday

Among recent humans brachial and crural indices are positively correlated with mean annual temperature, such that high indices are found in tropical groups. However, despite inhabiting glacial Europe, the Upper Paleolithic Europeans possessed high indices, prompting Trinkaus (1981) to argue for gene flow from warmer regions associated with modern human emergence in Europe. In contrast, Frayer et al.(1993) point out that Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans should not exhibit tropically-adapted limb proportions, since, even assuming replacement, their ancestors had experienced cold stress in glacial Europe for at least 12 millennia. This study investigates three questions tied to the brachial and crural indices among Late Pleistocene and recent humans. First, which limb segments (either proximal or distal) are primarily responsible for variation in brachial and crural indices? Second, are these indices reflective of overall limb elongation? And finally, do the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans retain relatively and/or absolutely long limbs? Results indicate that in the lower limb, the distal limb segment contributes most of the variability to intralimb proportions, while in the upper limb the proximal and distal limb segments appear to be equally variable. Additionally, brachial and crural indices do not appear to be a good measure of overall limb length, and thus, while the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans have significantly higher (i.e., tropically-adapted) brachial and crural indices than do recent Europeans, they also have shorter (i.e., cold-adapted) limbs. The somewhat paradoxical retention of "tropical" indices in the context of more "cold-adapted" limb length is best explained as evidence for Replacement in the European Late Pleistocene, followed by gradual cold adaptation in glacial Europe.

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It's like White Caucasoids claiming White Mongoloids (like Japs) as related to them, lol, when in fact they are genetically and anthropometrically extremely distant.


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You are stupid, Your Dumbass just claimed that all Cacaziods are white then in the same breath claim the only Depigmented Cacaziods are "Nordics".

Your stupid clown ass switches your argument however you choose.

Go away and read your 20th century books by Coon.

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quote:
So Called "Cacaziods" are nothing but depigmented Africans
The only fully depigmentated Caucasoids are Nordics. Most Caucasoids are around 20 on the Luschan Scale - an olive or tanned complexion.

You are an embarrassment to anthropology, as you think race is merely defined by skin colour.


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quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:


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This man is completely Caucasoid.

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Soooooo...you would have NOOOOO problem with your sister or your daughter bringing this man home as a husband if she loved him dearly and he could well provide for all her needs and wants, then, correct? You would have nooooo problem with this man being your brother-in-law/the father of your niece/nephew or your son-in-law/father of your grandchild(ren), correct?

[Roll Eyes] Since he is completely 'caucasoid'....ijs....

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White/Caucasoid = 1-21 on the Luschan Scale.

A breakdown -

I: 1-5 fully depigmentated, pale white
II: 6-10 light skin
III: 11-15 light intermediate
IV: 16-21 olive skin

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Types V and VI are non-Caucasoid.

full depigmentation is only 1-5 (Yype I), which less than 10% of Europeans have, only a minority of northern europeans.

white covers a scope of light skin shades, see above.

dermatologists and athropologists still use this classification today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Luschan's_chromatic_scale

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If you studied physical anthropology as you claim you would know the luschan scale. But as we both know you are no anthropology student, you probably have a job in mcdonalds and get upset serving to white people all day that you log on your computer at night to vent some anger.

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Show me how this in any proves that Cacaziods/White Europeans are not depigmented Africans.


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Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins.
T W Holliday

Body proportions covary with climate, apparently as the result of climatic selection. Ontogenic research and migrant studies have demonstrated that body proportions are largely genetically controlled and are under low selective rates; thus studies of body form can provide evidence for evolutionarily short-term dispersals and/or gene flow. Following these observations, competing models of modern human origins yield different predictions concerning body proportion shifts in Late Pleistocene Europe. Replacement predicts that the earliest modern Europeans will possess "tropical" body proportions (assuming Africa is the center of origin), while Regional Continuity permits only minor shifts in body shape, due to climatic change and/or improved cultural buffering. This study tests these predictions via analyses of osteometric data reflective of trunk height and breadth, limb proportions and relative body mass for samples of Early Upper Paleolithic (EUP), Late Upper Paleolithic (LUP) and Mesolithic (MES) humans and 13 recent African and European populations. Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. These results refute the hypothesis of local continuity in Europe, and are consistent with an interpretation of elevated gene flow (and population dispersal?) from Africa, followed by subsequent climatic adaptation to colder conditions. These data do not, however, preclude the possibility of some (albeit small) contribution of genes from Neandertals to succeeding populations, as is postulated in Bräuer's "Afro-European Sapiens" model.

quote:
Brachial and crural indices of European late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans.

T W Holliday

Among recent humans brachial and crural indices are positively correlated with mean annual temperature, such that high indices are found in tropical groups. However, despite inhabiting glacial Europe, the Upper Paleolithic Europeans possessed high indices, prompting Trinkaus (1981) to argue for gene flow from warmer regions associated with modern human emergence in Europe. In contrast, Frayer et al.(1993) point out that Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans should not exhibit tropically-adapted limb proportions, since, even assuming replacement, their ancestors had experienced cold stress in glacial Europe for at least 12 millennia. This study investigates three questions tied to the brachial and crural indices among Late Pleistocene and recent humans. First, which limb segments (either proximal or distal) are primarily responsible for variation in brachial and crural indices? Second, are these indices reflective of overall limb elongation? And finally, do the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans retain relatively and/or absolutely long limbs? Results indicate that in the lower limb, the distal limb segment contributes most of the variability to intralimb proportions, while in the upper limb the proximal and distal limb segments appear to be equally variable. Additionally, brachial and crural indices do not appear to be a good measure of overall limb length, and thus, while the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans have significantly higher (i.e., tropically-adapted) brachial and crural indices than do recent Europeans, they also have shorter (i.e., cold-adapted) limbs. The somewhat paradoxical retention of "tropical" indices in the context of more "cold-adapted" limb length is best explained as evidence for Replacement in the European Late Pleistocene, followed by gradual cold adaptation in glacial Europe.

We are talking about Genetics here..the SLC24A5 allele.

Get a clue.

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White/Caucasoid = 1-21 on the Luschan Scale.

A breakdown -

I: 1-5 fully depigmentated, pale white
II: 6-10 light skin
III: 11-15 light intermediate
IV: 16-21 olive skin

 -

Types V and VI are non-Caucasoid.

full depigmentation is only 1-5 (Yype I), which less than 10% of Europeans have, only a minority of northern europeans.

white covers a scope of light skin shades, see above.

dermatologists and athropologists still use this classification today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Luschan's_chromatic_scale

===

If you studied physical anthropology as you claim you would know the luschan scale. But as we both know you are no anthropology student, you probably have a job in mcdonalds and get upset serving to white people all day that you log on your computer at night to vent some anger.


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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
They claim that ''africans'' have the most phenotypic diversity in the world.

However africa has been inhabited historically the longest time by the most races - so of course it has the most phenotypic diversity.

The afronuts though think all africans = one race, or that they are apart of some pseudo-grouping ''tropical africans'' when africans = caucasoid, capoid, negroid etc.

They cluster capoids, caucasoids etc as ''tropical african'' or ''black'' out of self-hatred of their own phenotype.

One thing i've noticed on this forum is that the black posters here all hate the negro phenotype. None of them want it and they want to cluster themselves with north africans who have finer less ugly features since they are caucasoid/or admixed.

All true!

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Hey Perahu have you ever seen the film 13th warrior?

Nope, is it a good film?
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
White/Caucasoid = 1-21 on the Luschan Scale.

A breakdown -

I: 1-5 fully depigmentated, pale white
II: 6-10 light skin
III: 11-15 light intermediate
IV: 16-21 olive skin

 -

Types V and VI are non-Caucasoid.

full depigmentation is only 1-5 (Yype I), which less than 10% of Europeans have, only a minority of northern europeans.

white covers a scope of light skin shades, see above.

dermatologists and athropologists still use this classification today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Luschan's_chromatic_scale

===

If you studied physical anthropology as you claim you would know the luschan scale. But as we both know you are no anthropology student, you probably have a job in mcdonalds and get upset serving to white people all day that you log on your computer at night to vent some anger.

Race doesnt exist get over it

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/spencer-wells-at-root-were-still-hunters-1993055.html

Spencer wells:
we as a species are less genetically diverse than other primates. "It's worth getting the message out, that we are related to one another, that we are much more closely related genetically than people may suspect from glancing around and looking at these surface features that distinguish us; so that's an important social message," Wells says. "Race, in terms of deep-seated biological differences, doesn't exist scientifically. We are 99.9 per cent identical roughly, at the genetic level. That's actually a remarkably low level of genetic diversity compared to other species of large primates. It represents a population bottleneck event some 70,000 years ago when the population dropped down to as few as 2,000 people. We came back from that, and our genome reflects that."

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:


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This man is completely Caucasoid.

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Soooooo...you would have NOOOOO problem with your sister or your daughter bringing this man home as a husband if she loved him dearly and he could well provide for all her needs and wants, then, correct? You would have nooooo problem with this man being your brother-in-law/the father of your niece/nephew or your son-in-law/father of your grandchild(ren), correct?

[Roll Eyes] Since he is completely 'caucasoid'....ijs....

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He's clarified that in his view that is a proto-caucasoid, not a caucasoid proper. He's too dark to be a caucasoid.

My own view though is that man pictured is Veddoid admixed (like many arabs). Far too dark to be a pure caucasoid in my opinion.

The darkest caucasoids (whites) are mediterraneans who have an olive, light brown or ''brunet-white'' skin shade, typical of southern italians and many greeks.

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quote:
Originally posted by TruthAndRights:
Soooooo...you would have NOOOOO problem with your sister or your daughter bringing this man home as a husband if she loved him dearly and he could well provide for all her needs and wants, then, correct? You would have nooooo problem with this man being your brother-in-law/the father of your niece/nephew or your son-in-law/father of your grandchild(ren), correct?

[Roll Eyes] Since he is completely 'caucasoid'....ijs....

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Religion would be the main issue, since my family is Eastern Orthodox. But I wouldn't see him as that racial different, his skull and facial features are Caucasoid.
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So True, a basic tenant of Biology and Genetics, yet these clows sit up hee trying to link themselves to cultures they had nothing to do with via their defunct Obsolete "Cacaziod" b.s.


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Race doesnt exist get over it

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/spencer-wells-at-root-were-still-hunters-1993055.html

Spencer wells:
we as a species are less genetically diverse than other primates. "It's worth getting the message out, that we are related to one another, that we are much more closely related genetically than people may suspect from glancing around and looking at these surface features that distinguish us; so that's an important social message," Wells says. "Race, in terms of deep-seated biological differences, doesn't exist scientifically. We are 99.9 per cent identical roughly, at the genetic level. That's actually a remarkably low level of genetic diversity compared to other species of large primates. It represents a population bottleneck event some 70,000 years ago when the population dropped down to as few as 2,000 people. We came back from that, and our genome reflects that."


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Nope, is it a good film? [/QB]

trailor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MajXUcUI9D0

or you can watch the whole film free uploaded to youtube

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Recap, Egyptian Armarna family closer to NEgriods than Eurasians..

Dinikes..

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They seem to indicate that there is something definitely "African" about this collection of mummies.

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But these qualitative observations are no substitute for the harder type of evidence that can be provided by authentic ancient DNA.

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They were mixed race. Not pure Negroids.

What does a pure Negroid score on this? We need comparisons.

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Recap Eurasians are depigmented Africans..


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Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins.
T W Holliday

Body proportions covary with climate, apparently as the result of climatic selection. Ontogenic research and migrant studies have demonstrated that body proportions are largely genetically controlled and are under low selective rates; thus studies of body form can provide evidence for evolutionarily short-term dispersals and/or gene flow. Following these observations, competing models of modern human origins yield different predictions concerning body proportion shifts in Late Pleistocene Europe. Replacement predicts that the earliest modern Europeans will possess "tropical" body proportions (assuming Africa is the center of origin), while Regional Continuity permits only minor shifts in body shape, due to climatic change and/or improved cultural buffering. This study tests these predictions via analyses of osteometric data reflective of trunk height and breadth, limb proportions and relative body mass for samples of Early Upper Paleolithic (EUP), Late Upper Paleolithic (LUP) and Mesolithic (MES) humans and 13 recent African and European populations. Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. These results refute the hypothesis of local continuity in Europe, and are consistent with an interpretation of elevated gene flow (and population dispersal?) from Africa, followed by subsequent climatic adaptation to colder conditions. These data do not, however, preclude the possibility of some (albeit small) contribution of genes from Neandertals to succeeding populations, as is postulated in Bräuer's "Afro-European Sapiens" model.

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Brachial and crural indices of European late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans.

T W Holliday

Among recent humans brachial and crural indices are positively correlated with mean annual temperature, such that high indices are found in tropical groups. However, despite inhabiting glacial Europe, the Upper Paleolithic Europeans possessed high indices, prompting Trinkaus (1981) to argue for gene flow from warmer regions associated with modern human emergence in Europe. In contrast, Frayer et al.(1993) point out that Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans should not exhibit tropically-adapted limb proportions, since, even assuming replacement, their ancestors had experienced cold stress in glacial Europe for at least 12 millennia. This study investigates three questions tied to the brachial and crural indices among Late Pleistocene and recent humans. First, which limb segments (either proximal or distal) are primarily responsible for variation in brachial and crural indices? Second, are these indices reflective of overall limb elongation? And finally, do the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans retain relatively and/or absolutely long limbs? Results indicate that in the lower limb, the distal limb segment contributes most of the variability to intralimb proportions, while in the upper limb the proximal and distal limb segments appear to be equally variable. Additionally, brachial and crural indices do not appear to be a good measure of overall limb length, and thus, while the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic humans have significantly higher (i.e., tropically-adapted) brachial and crural indices than do recent Europeans, they also have shorter (i.e., cold-adapted) limbs. The somewhat paradoxical retention of "tropical" indices in the context of more "cold-adapted" limb length is best explained as evidence for Replacement in the European Late Pleistocene, followed by gradual cold adaptation in glacial Europe.

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Body proportions covary with climate, apparently as the result of climatic selection. Ontogenetic research and migrant studies have demonstrated that body proportions are largely genetically controlled and are under low selective rates; thus studies of body form can provide evidence for evolutionarily short-term dispersals and/or gene flow. Following these observations, competing models of modern human origins yield different predictions concerning body proportion shifts in Late Pleistocene Europe. Replacement predicts that the earliest modern Europeans will possess “tropical” body proportions (assuming Africa is the center of origin), while Regional Continuity permits only minor shifts in body shape, due to climatic change and/or improved cultural buffering. This study tests these predictions via analyses of osteometric data reflective of trunk height and breadth, limb proportions and relative body mass for samples of Early Upper Paleolithic (EUP), Late Upper Paleolithic (LUP) and Mesolithic (MES) humans and 13 recent African and European populations.Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. These results refute the hypothesis of local continuity in Europe, and are consistent with an interpretation of elevated gene flow (and population dispersal?) from Africa, followed by subsequent climatic adaptation to colder conditions. These data do not, however, preclude the possibility of some (albeit small) contribution of genes from Neandertals to succeeding populations, as is postulated in Bräuer’s “Afro-European Sapiens” model.
-Body proportions in Late Pleistocene Europe and modern human origins☆


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"In other words, all non-Africans carry M168. Of course, Africans carrying the M168 mutation today are the descendants of the African subpopulation from which the migrants originated.... Thus, the Australian/Eurasian Adam (the ancestor of all non-Africans) was an East African Man. "
-Cavalli-Sforza: Genes, Culture, and Human Evolution. Pg 187.

Depigmented Africans trying to claim they gave Africans our features..

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More Ducking and dodging...lol. Its clear your very existance hinges on your non existant ties to the advanced cultures of the Nile Valley and Horn of Africa.

Recheck that list, see how far away you are. My forefathers are closer to the A. Egyptians..

Truth Hurt don't it...Sand Nigger you would have been a slave to my Cousins in Km.t

Pure Negriod, Pure cacasiod...WAAAAAA...WAAAAAAAA...
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They were mixed race. Not pure Negroids.

What does a pure Negroid score on this? We need comparisons.


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Recap

The Original Arabs were Black Cushites..

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African Cushites..(Ancestors of the Arabs and Eurasians)

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quote:
Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-:
More Ducking and dodging...lol. Its clear your very existance hinges on your non existant ties to the advanced cultures of the Nile Valley and Horn of Africa.

Recheck that list, see how far away you are. My forefathers are closer to the A. Egyptians..

Truth Hurt don't it...Sand Nigger you would have been a slave to my Cousins in Km.t

Pure Negriod, Pure cacasiod...WAAAAAA...WAAAAAAAA...

I just looked at the Amarna mummies thread and there were many inaccuracies posted about that 'study'.

It is not an academic peer-review study anyway, so it's crap.

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None of the bullshit you spout is peer reviewed..


its results are still valid...From Dinekes

Dinekes: But these qualitative observations are no substitute for the harder type of evidence that can be provided by authentic ancient DNA.

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They seem to indicate that there is something definitely "African" about this collection of mummies.

....

But these qualitative observations are no substitute for the harder type of evidence that can be provided by authentic ancient DNA.

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Get your bitch ass back to your tent sand nigger..

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quote:
Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-:
More Ducking and dodging...lol. Its clear your very existance hinges on your non existant ties to the advanced cultures of the Nile Valley and Horn of Africa.

Recheck that list, see how far away you are. My forefathers are closer to the A. Egyptians..

Truth Hurt don't it...Sand Nigger you would have been a slave to my Cousins in Km.t

Pure Negriod, Pure cacasiod...WAAAAAA...WAAAAAAAA...
quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
They were mixed race. Not pure Negroids.

What does a pure Negroid score on this? We need comparisons.


I just looked at the Amarna mummies thread and there were many inaccuracies posted about that study.

It is not a peer-review study anyway, so it's crap.


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quote:
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Recap

The Original Arabs were Black Cushites..

They are not your cousins, Mr. Congoid. If you test their DNA it will match people in Iceland better than yours! Haha, loser.
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I know your stupid Sand Nigger ass is barbaric by nature but you should be literate considering my cousins gave you your script....

Read and Weap..

No where to run no where to hide.

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Dinekes: But these qualitative observations are no substitute for the harder type of evidence that can be provided by authentic ancient DNA.

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They seem to indicate that there is something definitely "African" about this collection of mummies.

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But these qualitative observations are no substitute for the harder type of evidence that can be provided by authentic ancient DNA.

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Get your bitch ass back to your tent sand nigger.


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Recap

The Original Arabs were Black Cushites..

They are not your cousins, Mr. Congoid. If you test their DNA it will match people in Iceland better than yours! Haha, loser.

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I wasn't talking about those mummies dumbass Congoid.
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You are a depigmented African, you are not of a special race, you are not original, you are not civilized.

Barbarian you have nothing, you were the bitches of the Kushites for thousands of years. Without them you'd still be wiping your arse with Sandpaper...

Your religion, Script, philosophy etc. comes from Cushites and Nilotics.

Ass backward Barbarian....you are unoriginal.
LMAO.

Truth Hurt Don't it.


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The Original Arabs were Black Cushites..

They are not your cousins, Mr. Congoid. If you test their DNA it will match people in Iceland better than yours! Haha, loser.

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You are just a mixed-breed Pygmy, you are not of a special race, you are not original, you are not civilized.

You have no relationship to Afro-Asiatic Hamites, know your place Mr. Congoid.

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You are a depigmented African, you are not of a special race, you are not original, you are not civilized.

Barbarian you have nothing, you were the bitches of the Kushites for thousands of years. Without them you'd still be wiping your arse with Sandpaper...

Your religion, Script, philosophy etc. comes from Cushites and Nilotics.

Ass backward Barbarian....you are unoriginal.
LMAO.

Truth Hurt Don't it.


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I never claimed the Black Arabs to be my Cousins dumbass sandnigger..

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I wasn't talking about those mummies dumbass Congoid.


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quote:
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I never claimed the Black Arabs to be my Cousins dumbass sandnigger..

quote:
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I wasn't talking about those mummies dumbass Congoid.


what exactly is your heritage? do you even know?

You seem to hate negroids/sub-saharan africans and attatch yourself with anything outside of sub-saharan africa such as sumeria or ancient egypt.

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Im West African on my Mothers Side and African/Creole(French) on my Fathers. Other than that I don't know of any extra admixture.

I have no problems with "Negriods" unlike you I don't need to claim everyone under the sun from Sumarians, Egyptians, Aryans, etc as part of my race. I never claimed the A. Egyptians were of my "race" nor do I advocate race.

All I have said is that The Egyptians and My ancestors descend from the same population(Saharans). They created Km.t My ancestors created Ghana.

Eurasian Arabs and Spainard Muslims wrote Highly of my ancestors...

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[He] Gives an audience to his people, in order to listen to their complaints and set them right…he sits in a pavilion around which stand 10 horses with gold embodied trappings. Behind the king stand 10 pages holding shields and gold mounted swords; on his right are the sons of princes of his empire, splendidly clad and with gold plaited in their hair. Before him sits the high priest, and behind the high priest sit the other priests…The door of the pavilion is guarded by dogs of an excellent breed who almost never leave the king's presence and who wear collars of gold and silver studded with bells of the same material.
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quote:
Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-:
I never claimed the Black Arabs to be my Cousins dumbass sandnigger..

quote:
Originally posted by Perahu:
I wasn't talking about those mummies dumbass Congoid.


what exactly is your heritage? do you even know?

You seem to hate negroids/sub-saharan africans and attatch yourself with anything outside of sub-saharan africa such as sumeria or ancient egypt.


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what exactly is your heritage? do you even know?

You seem to hate negroids/sub-saharan africans and attatch yourself with anything outside of sub-saharan africa such as sumeria or ancient egypt.

This is a typical phenomenon among mongrel North American Afroloonies with no heritage. You will never find ethnic Africans behaving in this way, they have more dignity.
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LOL, Sand Nigger Bitch now you are gonna cry. You come on here disrespecting Africans Im going to Burn your ass, because I know history, European, Arab and African.

Most Africans don't take you Sand Niggers serious, they know how irrelevent you are but many posters here are Not African American, I probably the only one.

Go whine like a bitch to someone else, you faggot sand nigger bitch. You come here disrespecting my people Im going to give it back to you 100 fold.

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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
what exactly is your heritage? do you even know?

You seem to hate negroids/sub-saharan africans and attatch yourself with anything outside of sub-saharan africa such as sumeria or ancient egypt.

This is a typical phenomenon among mongrel North American Afroloonies with no heritage. You will never find ethnic Africans behaving in this way, they have more dignifity.

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