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Ani Iman
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DNATribes The Amarna Mummy Deception:

"DNA Tribes debunks their own claims, as well as other geneticists meanwhile the negrocentrics continue to wrap themselves in yet another layer of denial..." [ phoenician7]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCULwU4dTmA&feature=uploademail

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The skulls depicted in this video show pronounced alveolar prognathism,the uploader lacks knowledge of Foremsic Anthropology
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quote:
Originally posted by Ponsford:
The skulls depicted in this video show pronounced alveolar prognathism,the uploader lacks knowledge of Foremsic Anthropology

She thinks that Bantu speakers are a race of people, yet she claims to be an Anthropologist/Archeologist.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ani Iman:
quote:
Originally posted by Ponsford:
The skulls depicted in this video show pronounced alveolar prognathism,the uploader lacks knowledge of Foremsic Anthropology

She thinks that Bantu speakers are a race of people, yet she claims to be an Anthropologist/Archeologist.
The ancient Egyptians were a tropical adapted people! The ancient Egyptians were tropical adapted Africans from the Sahel and Sahara region. Point blank! If they came directly from the holocene into Africa, they would have been cold adapted, which isn't the case! Point blank!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3qlZrM4Uk

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Didn't this idiot post a video about King tut being R1b which they got from a screenshot off some documentary lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wccgN467E8&feature=plcp&context=C430e9b7VDvjVQa1PpcFNKykjJ5rnHHQynu6Q8z_MUd36Ywz45eiQ%3D

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quote:
Originally posted by asante-Korton:
Didn't this idiot post a video about King tut being R1b which they got from a screenshot off some documentary lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wccgN467E8&feature=plcp&context=C430e9b7VDvjVQa1PpcFNKykjJ5rnHHQynu6Q8z_MUd36Ywz45eiQ%3D

Who the hell is Phoenician7?
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by asante-Korton:
Didn't this idiot post a video about King tut being R1b which they got from a screenshot off some documentary lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wccgN467E8&feature=plcp&context=C430e9b7VDvjVQa1PpcFNKykjJ5rnHHQynu6Q8z_MUd36Ywz45eiQ%3D

Who the hell is Phoenician7?
Phoenician7 is a friend of Rahotep101.
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It appears that phoenician7 is simply parroting what she found on the Hamitic site:

http://hamiticunion.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print&thread=38

WhiteNord tried to use this here at EgyptSearch back in December. I knew I saw this information before., back when I read this topic a few months ago.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forum
s/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=005929

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quote:
Originally posted by Ani Iman:
It appears that phoenician7 is simply parroting what she found on the Hamitic site:

http://hamiticunion.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print&thread=38

WhiteNord tried to use this here at EgyptSearch back in December. I knew I saw this information before., back when I read this topic a few months ago.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forum
s/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=005929

Correction:
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=005929

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quote:
Originally posted by Ani Iman:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by asante-Korton:
Didn't this idiot post a video about King tut being R1b which they got from a screenshot off some documentary lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wccgN467E8&feature=plcp&context=C430e9b7VDvjVQa1PpcFNKykjJ5rnHHQynu6Q8z_MUd36Ywz45eiQ%3D

Who the hell is Phoenician7?
Phoenician7 is a friend of Rahotep101.
The British rat ass tap, was here and ran off. He just like Phoenician7 aka Phony7 have never ever been to Egypt. This is the Irony and the Fact.

I went to the video spamming vlog by this phony7 and only after asking a few fairly simple questions I got blocked. This means we are dealing with a pseudo and a fake. A liar, a DEVIL! One who can't take heat!

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This is a well presented video for people that have NO IDEAS or knowledge about DNA. That is the trickery in the video. You have to be knowledgeable to be able to refute it. For smart people that have no knowledge about DNA they can refute it just by using common sense. Since i work with lawyers i have picked up the ability to dissect peoples bullshit.

I dont have the time right now, but i will debunk this garbage in its entirety.

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Not sure the fuss over New Kingdom people who were clearly of mixed background by this time.

I just don't see Nilotic Black Africans not taking advantage of West Asian females located within trading distance.

I wonder how many West Asian girls would 1 acre of Nile Delta land be worth?

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Adressing the video directly.

@ :20 - Right off the bat he throws in something about "Negroids".....The thing is, "Negroids" dont have to have some type of affinity with MODERN EGYPTIANS. This is a sample of ANCIENT EGYPTIANS. Also the connection between ancients and moderns is just an ASSUMPTION because obviously THIS ancient samples has no close connection with the moderns.

@ :27 - nail in the coffin. He cannot say a study demonstrates a connection between ancient Egyptians and Moderns.....That study has NO SAMPLES OF ANCIENT EGYPTIANS! How can it compare the two when it has no ancient samples? - That is really the end of discussion. The article he references is actually on SUDAN and finds that modern Egyptians are similar to Sudanese Nubians....and Nubians have a deep connection with the Karamoja of Uganda.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3118356/
His entire argument is crushed in the first 30 seconds.... Obviously if the Karamoja in Uganda are "Negroids"....and they have an affinity with Nubians as the article states = Egyptians cluster with Nubians. Therefore his argument at 20 seconds in fails.

Everything about the loci he said up to the first minute is true. But so what? The results are STILL the results.

@ 1:05 - Here is the distraction. The Genetic results are not about Europe having a score (10.41) that is twice the size as the Horn of African and the Maghreb. Amarna connections to Europeans are the crux of the results. The results are about the Great Lakes region and Southern African scores being 10 to 100 times higher than the others. So he makes the distraction talking about European/Horn/Maghreb scores and ignores the highest scores that connect them to the Sub Saharan regions in the first place. This is what you do when YOU HAVE NO ANSWER to the results...you dont talk about the results at all.

@ 1:19 - Notice he speaks of a "Bantu Origin" but didnt even address the "Bantu" scores! The fact that the Bantu were not even in South Africa proves that they were in fact FURTHER NORTH at that time. The argument is not about the Bantu origin of Egyptians....the idea is about the Origin of people with a "Bantu" STR profile closer to the Nile Valley about 3500 years ago.

You can ignore all the phenotype nonsense up untill 4:15

@ 4:15 - He is actually copying an email that someone ELSE sent to a DIFFERENT Company and didnt even tell the individual about the study in question. He just emailed the geneticists about the 8 Str Loci.

Notice the geneticists reply. "The Testing of only 8 Y-Dna" markers........." LOL - The STR data in the Jama study ARE NOT Y-CHROMOSOME DNA MARKERS! They are autosomal markers. That is why we are not using those 8 markers to find out the Y-dna of the mummies. IN FACT some of the mummies dont even HAVE Y-Chromosome DNA STR's becaue they have no Y chromosome because they are WOMEN! LOL. This is why the Euroclowns are looking at SCREENSHOTS of supposed Y DNA STR's to get a results.

He just posted this not even paying attention to what was said...or even understanding what was said.

At that point everything up the end ofthe video is NONSENSE because it has nothing to do with the results of an ANCIENT DNA SAMPLE!. This ANCIENT DNA SAMPLE from Egypt seems to contradict what everyone Believes and what they know about the MODERN Egyptians.

Food for thought. The most common Y dna in Western Europe is R1b......To date NO R1b has been found in ANY Ancient Samples of Eurpeans...... They find Haplogrops I G and E. That said, you cannot use results of MODERN Eureopeans being heavily R1b to somehow "DEBUNK" the results of ANCIENT DNA from Europeans.

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by Ani Iman:
quote:
Originally posted by Ponsford:
The skulls depicted in this video show pronounced alveolar prognathism,the uploader lacks knowledge of Foremsic Anthropology

She thinks that Bantu speakers are a race of people, yet she claims to be an Anthropologist/Archeologist.
The ancient Egyptians were a tropical adapted people! The ancient Egyptians were tropical adapted Africans from the Sahel and Sahara region. Point blank! If they came directly from the holocene into Africa, they would have been cold adapted, which isn't the case! Point blank!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3qlZrM4Uk

Indeed Patrol. The point has to be stressed again and again.
The distorters will not let up. The peoples forces likewise
must continue to hit hard, and reiterate the data anywhere and anytime.
As Malcolm said, its time to stop singing and start swinging..
That Youtube rebuttal is a good example if swinging..
Speaking of tropical proportions..

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Ancient Egyptian Craniometric analysis from Howells’ world craniometric database clusters ancient egyptians with Caucasoids.

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1: Caucasoid, 2: Amerindian, 3: East Asian, 4: Mokapu, 5: Easter Island, 6: Tasmania, 7: Australoid, 8: Ainu, 9: Santa Cruz, 10: Bushman, 11: Andaman, 12: Buriat, 13: Negroid, 14: Moriori/Maori, 15: Eskimo

Of 111 ancient egyptian crania, 106 cluster with European (Caucasoid). Read it and weep, lol.

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^^The above is an amateur data diagram produced by Dinkenes,
not a reproduction of actual published research.
What? He can't find credible studies that support
his BS so he is now making up his own bogus "research"?

ha, aha ahhaha a ahahaha ahahah

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Below is some real data by credible scholars with
actual charts they made, gleaned ironically, from
the same Dinkenes website years ago. He is avoiding
them now in favor of his own dubious "data" trying to
pass it off to the naive as some sort of real "study."

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Looks like once again..
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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist:
Ancient Egyptian Craniometric analysis from Howells’ world craniometric database clusters ancient egyptians with Caucasoids.

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1: Caucasoid, 2: Amerindian, 3: East Asian, 4: Mokapu, 5: Easter Island, 6: Tasmania, 7: Australoid, 8: Ainu, 9: Santa Cruz, 10: Bushman, 11: Andaman, 12: Buriat, 13: Negroid, 14: Moriori/Maori, 15: Eskimo

Of 111 ancient egyptian crania, 106 cluster with European (Caucasoid). Read it and weep, lol.

Pathetic cold adapted crap!
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I think the title of the video is misleading since she is attacking the study and the JAMA report, She should change the title from “DNATribes the Armana mummie deception” to, “How Zahi Hawass, PhD and his fifteen member team worked on a poorly designed study to determin the paternity of the Armana mummies.” That would be a more fitting title since she believes the study is flawed ...LOL [Eek!]
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This is what is called the final death throes of the cracker!

The genetic analysis of the Armana mummies not only shows them to be the ancestors of the modern day populations of South Africa, West Africa and Central Africa, but the Armana mummies DNA also shows up in the Americas

The Caucasoid no doubt lived in South, West and central Africa and has some presence in the Americas during ancient times! LOL

watching the decompensation of an already distured species is interestingly very fascinating and pleasurable to witness

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It is obvious that this person Phoenician 7 has little knowledge,training or experience in genetics or anthropology.Phoenician 7 has a lot of videos on you tube,if you study these videos carefully a single inference could be drawn.
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