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But all other races can take the test, smdh. Blacks are so dumb that they had to legislate law to prevent them from having to take the test. WOW!
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IQ is not a genuine measure of intelligence and often focuses in delivery on forms of thought process that Euros are better at. Dont bother us with this bullsh!t.
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^You're a fucking idiot! Don't you realize that this will hurt Black kids more than do good? Everyone else is taking the test, but Black kids are being measured by other academic criteria. Don't you see that it puts them at a disadvantage when competing to get into top tiered institutions if they're being assessed by "special" means? It is people like you that hold Blacks behind.
A quote from the article you obviously did not read:
"Officials at his school routinely provide the test to kids but as Lewis soon found out, not to children who are black"
All other races take the test! idiot!
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^Yea, oshun is admitting that Euros have greater cognitive abilities. Why do you find that stunning? This has been known for quite some time now.
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Im not admitting Euros have greater cognitive abilities. Im saying the tests and the educational system focus on expressions of learning styles more common in Europeans and those that try to emulate them.
quote:Originally posted by Crush Black Lies: ^You're a fucking idiot! Don't you realize that this will hurt Black kids more than do good?
I never said it wouldnt hurt them. I disagree with your idea that they are not taking it proves black kids to be dumber.
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well, aren't those learning styles, cognitive processes?
quote:Originally posted by Oshun: Im not admitting Euros have greater cognitive abilities. Im saying it and the educational system focuses on expressions of learning styles more common in Europeans and those that try to emulate them.
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There are different types of learning styles. Educational settings and tests that focus on one style disadvantage those that follow a stylistically different style. It is not an objective measure of cognitive processes overall.
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If Africans have the greatest genetic diversity than the rest of humanity combined according to Tishkoff etal then this diversity could also be in their CNS,If it is difficult to design T cell vaccines for African populations because of the diversity of their MHC which is just as complex as the CNS then it must be difficult to design an I.Q. test for African populations.
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Surely you don't believe the shyt you spew, right? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Ponsford: If Africans have the greatest genetic diversity than the rest of humanity combined according to Tishkoff etal then this diversity could also be in their CNS,If it is difficult to design T cell vaccines for African populations because of the diversity of their MHC which is just as complex as the CNS then it must be difficult to design an I.Q. test for African populations.
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Explain how other races are able to get with the program?
Don't you see you're making fucking excuses?
quote:Originally posted by Oshun: There are different types of learning styles. Educational settings and tests that focus on one style disadvantage those that follow a stylistically different style. It is not an objective measure of cognitive processes overall.
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Asians ranked highly by white standards often encourage for example, similar learning styles and educational structure to whites and are even more rigorous in implementation than Euros are.
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By Michael Alison Chandler Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, July 7, 2008; Page A01
Asian American students will outnumber white classmates for the first time in the freshman class at the region's most prestigious public magnet school this fall, a milestone reached as the number of African Americans and Hispanics has remained low and the Fairfax County School Board prepares to review the school's admission policy.
At Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in the Alexandria area this year, more than 2,500 applicants vied for 485 seats. Asian American students got 219, or 45 percent of the total, while white students got 205, or 42 percent. About 38 percent of the school's students were Asian American in the past school year.
T.J., as the school is known, draws students from several Northern Virginia jurisdictions. It ranks among the nation's top public schools in some surveys because of its rigorous curriculum and high-achieving students. Its average combined SAT score in 2007 was 2155, compared with 1639 countywide. More than 150 of its students that year were semifinalists for National Merit scholarships.
A plurality of Asian American students in a high school class would be an anomaly in the Washington region, where fewer than one in 10 residents is Asian American. In Fairfax, which supplies most of the school's students, people of Asian descent account for 16 percent of the population, census data show. That percentage has doubled since 1990 and is the highest in the area.
Among the incoming T.J. freshmen is Yuqing Zhang. Born in China, Yuqing immigrated with his family a decade ago, when his parents came to the United States for graduate school. He began learning math as a toddler from his grandmother and has excelled throughout school. As an eighth-grader at Longfellow Middle School in the Falls Church area, he took geometry and a class that combines high-level algebra and trigonometry. He placed 30th in a national math competition.
Yuqing, 14, said he has heard that T.J. is very competitive but added that he looks forward to focusing on his favorite subjects, math and science. The school is appealing, he said, because it "makes you do the best," and its students "model a good work ethic."
The rising concentration of Asian Americans at T.J. mirrors demographic trends in other elite math and science magnet schools. In New York, the selective and specialized Stuyvesant High School, Bronx High School of Science and Brooklyn Technical High School have Asian American majorities, although about 10 percent of the metropolitan population is of Asian descent. In San Francisco, Asian Americans make up more than 60 percent of the students at selective Lowell High School and about a third of the city's population.
The success of Asian American students reflects the educational commitment found in many immigrant communities, particularly for second-generation students fluent in English and encouraged by upwardly mobile parents who came to the United States for higher education or professional positions.
The demographic imbalance in top public magnet schools has become a sensitive issue, however...
Jenny Tsai, a recent Harvard University graduate, wrote her thesis about what she perceived as a growing sentiment that "too many Asians" were at top magnet schools. She attended the selective Hunter College High School in New York, where she sensed "a certain level of anxiety" as the portion of Asian American students in the entering class grew from less than a third to more than half between 1997 and 2003. Tsai said some students felt a need to justify their admission or their contributions.
"I don't think there was ever a question of who really belonged there until the numbers shifted," she said.
Admissions offices at top private colleges are becoming the front line for debates about equal access as the supply of high-caliber Asian American applicants swells and colleges try to maintain student diversity. Some Asian Americans contend that they face informal quotas and are forced to meet higher standards, similar to hurdles that Jewish Americans faced in the first part of the 20th century... continued ..
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According to Tsai's research, which included interviews and surveys, the much touted magnet schools were set up for, and catered mostly to whites. It is only when Asians started beating whites out of admission slots that they became a "problem": Quote:
"The perception that there are too many Asians exists because the whites do not believe that Asians should be the majority of students in a magnet school, when admission to the school is supposed to be for the whites." pg 61
and when it came down to some things such as choosing school paper editors there seemed to be some "informal affirmative action" in play:
"The Jewish male got picked because he was white, and his whiteness compensated for his lack of experience.. -----
Hmm, sense of entitlement... now where have we heard that before? and the white guy seemed to be picked not in the interests of merit, (he was less experienced) but in the interests of racial 'balance'.. Very strange.. no?
Ironically there even appears to be "white flight" from TOO MUCH competition with Asians:
"The “model minority” stereotype serves as a double-edged sword. Asians are not viewed to be dangerous or a drain on resources, but it can still be undesirable for whites to live in an area with a highly concentrated Asian population. A specific example is a recent Wall Street Journal article that talked about the “second white flight” from Cupertino, California. White parents were reluctant to enroll their children at the local Monta Vista High School because the school was viewed to be too competitive. Some white parents chose to send their children to the neighboring Homestead High School, despite its lower test scores.
The article quotes the Homestead PTA President Mary Anne Norling saying: “"It does help to have a lower Asian population. I don't think our parents are as uptight as if my kids went to Monta Vista." 113 Mr. Rowley, the district superintendent, admitted that "Kids who are white feel themselves a distinct minority against a majority culture." 114 Mr. Rowley chose not send his own son to Monta Vista High School. The Asian students were viewed to be the cause of the heightened pressure and stress at the school. One former student at Monta Vista High School, George Chen, said: “Monta Vista was viewed as being very stressful because of all the Asian students, who fought to be in the AP classes…There was always that perception that the Asian American students were the cause of the stress as well as the reason why the school wasn’t good in something like athletics.”
White flight as higher performing Asians muscle in.. THE NEW WHITE FLIGHT
The New White Flight Wall Street Journal November 19, 2005
In Silicon Valley, two high schools with outstanding academic reputations are losing white students as Asian students move in. Why?
By SUEIN HWANG
CUPERTINO, Calif. -- By most measures, Monta Vista High here and Lynbrook High, in nearby San Jose, are among the nation's top public high schools. Both boast stellar test scores, an array of advanced-placement classes and a track record of sending graduates from the affluent suburbs of Silicon Valley to prestigious colleges.
But locally, they're also known for something else: white flight. Over the past 10 years, the proportion of white students at Lynbrook has fallen by nearly half, to 25% of the student body. At Monta Vista, white students make up less than one-third of the population, down from 45% -- this in a town that's half white. Some white Cupertino parents are instead sending their children to private schools or moving them to other, whiter public schools. More commonly, young white families in Silicon Valley say they are avoiding Cupertino altogether.
White students are far outnumbered by Asians at Monta Vista High School in Cupertino, Calif. Whites aren't quitting the schools because the schools are failing academically. Quite the contrary: Many white parents say they're leaving because the schools are too academically driven and too narrowly invested in subjects such as math and science at the expense of liberal arts and extracurriculars like sports and other personal interests.
The two schools, put another way that parents rarely articulate so bluntly, are too Asian.
Cathy Gatley, co-president of Monta Vista High School's parent-teacher association, recently dissuaded a family with a young child from moving to Cupertino because there are so few young white kids left in the public schools. "This may not sound good," she confides, "but their child may be the only Caucasian kid in the class." All of Ms. Gatley's four children have attended or are currently attending Monta Vista. One son, Andrew, 17 years old, took the high-school exit exam last summer and left the school to avoid the academic pressure. He is currently working in a pet-supply store. Ms. Gatley, who is white, says she probably wouldn't have moved to Cupertino if she had anticipated how much it would change.
In the 1960s, the term "white flight" emerged to describe the rapid exodus of whites from big cities into the suburbs, a process that often resulted in the economic degradation of the remaining community. Back then, the phenomenon was mostly believed to be sparked by the growth in the population of African-Americans, and to a lesser degree Hispanics, in some major cities.
But this modern incarnation is different. Across the country, Asian-Americans have by and large been successful and accepted into middle- and upper-class communities. Silicon Valley has kept Cupertino's economy stable, and the town is almost indistinguishable from many of the suburbs around it. The shrinking number of white students hasn't hurt the academic standards of Cupertino's schools -- in fact the opposite is true.
This time the effect is more subtle: Some Asians believe that the resulting lack of diversity creates an atmosphere that is too sheltering for their children, leaving then unprepared for life in a country that is only 4% Asian overall. Moreover, many Asians share some of their white counterpart's concerns. Both groups finger newer Asian immigrants for the schools' intense competitiveness.
Some whites fear that by avoiding schools with large Asian populations parents are short-changing their own children, giving them the idea that they can't compete with Asian kids. "My parents never let me think that because I'm Caucasian, I'm not going to succeed," says Jessie Hogin, a white Monta Vista graduate.
The white exodus clearly involves race-based presumptions, not all of which are positive. One example: Asian parents are too competitive. That sounds like racism to many of Cupertino's Asian residents, who resent the fact that their growing numbers and success are causing many white families to boycott the town altogether.
"It's a stereotype of Asian parents," says Pei-Pei Yow, a Hewlett-Packard Co. manager and Chinese-American community leader who sent two kids to Monta Vista. It's like other familiar biases, she says: "You can't say everybody from the South is a redneck."
Jane Doherty, a retirement-community administrator, chose to send her two boys elsewhere. When her family moved to Cupertino from Indiana over a decade ago, Ms. Doherty says her top priority was moving into a good public-school district. She paid no heed to a real-estate agent who told her of the town's burgeoning Asian population.
She says she began to reconsider after her elder son, Matthew, entered Kennedy, the middle school that feeds Monta Vista. As he played soccer, Ms. Doherty watched a line of cars across the street deposit Asian kids for after-school study. She also attended a Monta Vista parents' night and came away worrying about the school's focus on test scores and the big-name colleges its graduates attend.
"My sense is that at Monta Vista you're competing against the child beside you," she says. Ms. Doherty says she believes the issue stems more from recent immigrants than Asians as a whole. "Obviously, the concentration of Asian students is really high, and it does flavor the school," she says.
When Matthew, now a student at Notre Dame, finished middle school eight years ago, Ms. Doherty decided to send him to Bellarmine College Preparatory, a Jesuit school that she says has a culture that "values the whole child." It's also 55% white and 24% Asian. Her younger son, Kevin, followed suit.
Kevin Doherty, 17, says he's happy his mother made the switch. Many of his old friends at Kennedy aren't happy at Monta Vista, he says. "Kids at Bellarmine have a lot of pressure to do well, too, but they want to learn and do something they want to do."
While California has seen the most pronounced cases of suburban segregation, some of the developments in Cupertino are also starting to surface in other parts of the U.S. At Thomas S. Wootton High School in Rockville, Md., known flippantly to some locals as "Won Ton," roughly 35% of students are of Asian descent. People who don't know the school tend to make assumptions about its academics, says Principal Michael Doran. "Certain stereotypes come to mind -- 'those people are good at math,' " he says.
In Tenafly, N.J., a well-to-do bedroom community near New York, the local high school says it expects Asian students to make up about 36% of its total in the next five years, compared with 27% today. The district still attracts families of all backgrounds, but Asians are particularly intent that their kids work hard and excel, says Anat Eisenberg, a local Coldwell Banker real-estate agent. "Everybody is caught into this process of driving their kids." Lawrence Mayer, Tenafly High's vice principal, says he's never heard such concerns.
Perched on the western end of the Santa Clara valley, Cupertino was for many years a primarily rural area known for its many fruit orchards. The beginnings of the tech industry brought suburbanization, and Cupertino then became a very white, quintessentially middle-class town of mostly modest ranch homes, populated by engineers and their families. Apple Computer Inc. planted its headquarters there.
As the high-tech industry prospered, so did Cupertino. Today, the orchards are a memory, replaced by numerous shopping malls and subdivisions that are home to Silicon Valley's prosperous upper-middle class. While the architecture in Cupertino is largely the same as in neighboring communities, the town of about 50,000 people now boasts Indian restaurants, tutoring centers and Asian grocers. Parents say Cupertino's top schools have become more academically intense over the past 10 years. Asian immigrants have surged into the town, granting it a reputation -- particularly among recent Chinese and South Asian immigrants -- as a Bay Area locale of choice. Cupertino is now 41% Asian, up from 24% in 1998.
Some students struggle in Cupertino's high schools who might not elsewhere. Monta Vista's Academic Performance Index, which compares the academic performance of California's schools, reached an all-time high of 924 out of 1,000 this year, making it one of the highest-scoring high schools in Northern California. Grades are so high that a 'B' average puts a student in the bottom third of a class.
"We have great students, which has a lot of upsides," says April Scott, Monta Vista's principal. "The downside is what the kids with a 3.0 GPA think of themselves."
Ms. Scott and her counterpart at Lynbrook know what's said about their schools being too competitive and dominated by Asians. "It's easy to buy into those kinds of comments because they're loaded and powerful," says Ms. Scott, who adds that they paint an inaccurate picture of Monta Vista. Ms. Scott says many athletic programs are thriving and points to the school's many extracurricular activities. She also points out that white students represented 20% of the school's 29 National Merit Semifinalists this year.
Judy Hogin, Jessie's mother and a Cupertino real-estate agent, believes the school was good for her daughter, who is now a freshman at the University of California at San Diego. "I know it's frustrating to some people who have moved away," says Ms. Hogin, who is white. Jessie, she says, "rose to the challenge."
On a recent autumn day at Lynbrook, crowds of students spilled out of classrooms for midmorning break. Against a sea of Asian faces, the few white students were easy to pick out. One boy sat on a wall, his lighter hair and skin making him stand out from dozens of others around him. In another corner, four white male students lounged at a picnic table.
At Cupertino's top schools, administrators, parents and students say white students end up in the stereotyped role often applied to other minority groups: the underachievers. In one 9th-grade algebra class, Lynbrook's lowest-level math class, the students are an eclectic mix of whites, Asians and other racial and ethnic groups.
"Take a good look," whispered Steve Rowley, superintendent of the Fremont Union High School District, which covers the city of Cupertino as well as portions of other neighboring cities. "This doesn't look like the other classes we're going to." On the second floor, in advanced-placement chemistry, only a couple of the 32 students are white and the rest are Asian. Some white parents, and even some students, say they suspect teachers don't take white kids as seriously as Asians. "Many of my Asian friends were convinced that if you were Asian, you had to confirm you were smart. If you were white, you had to prove it," says Arar Han, a Monta Vista graduate who recently co-edited "Asian American X," a book of coming-of-age essays by young Asian-Americans.
Ms. Gatley, the Monta Vista PTA president, is more blunt: "White kids are thought of as the dumb kids," she says. Cupertino's administrators and faculty, the majority of whom are white, adamantly say there's no discrimination against whites. The administrators say students of all races get along well. In fact, there's little evidence of any overt racial tension between students or between their parents.
Mr. Rowley, the school superintendent, however, concedes that a perception exists that's sometimes called "the white-boy syndrome." He describes it as: "Kids who are white feel themselves a distinct minority against a majority culture." Mr. Rowley, who is white, enrolled his only son, Eddie, at Lynbrook. When Eddie started freshman geometry, the boy was frustrated to learn that many of the Asian students in his class had already taken the course in summer school, Mr. Rowley recalls. That gave them a big leg up.
To many of Cupertino's Asians, some of the assumptions made by white parents -- that Asians are excessively competitive and single-minded -- play into stereotypes. Top schools in nearby, whiter Palo Alto, which also have very high test scores, also feature heavy course loads, long hours of homework and overly stressed students, says Denise Pope, director of Stressed Out Students, a Stanford University program that has worked with schools in both Palo Alto and Cupertino. But whites don't seem to be avoiding those institutions, or making the same negative generalizations, Asian families note, suggesting that it's not academic competition that makes white parents uncomfortable but academic competition with Asian-Americans.
Some of Cupertino's Asian residents say they don't blame white families for leaving. After all, many of the town's Asians are fretting about the same issues. While acknowledging that the term Asian embraces a wide diversity of countries, cultures and languages, they say there's some truth to the criticisms levied against new immigrant parents, particularly those from countries such as China and India, who often put a lot of academic pressure on their children.
Some parents and students say these various forces are creating an unhealthy cultural isolation in the schools. Monta Vista graduate Mark Seto says he wouldn't send his kids to his alma mater. "It was a sheltered little world that didn't bear a whole lot of resemblance to what the rest of the country is like," says Mr. Seto, a Chinese-American who recently graduated from Yale University. As a result, he says, "college wasn't an academic adjustment. It was a cultural adjustment." Hung Wei, a Chinese-American living in Cupertino, has become an active campaigner in the community, encouraging Asian parents to be more aware of their children's emotional development. Ms. Wei, who is co-president of Monta Vista's PTA with Ms. Gatley, says her activism stems from the suicide of her daughter, Diana. Ms. Wei says life in Cupertino and at Monta Vista didn't prepare the young woman for life at New York University. Diana moved there in 2004 and jumped to her death from a Manhattan building two months later.
"We emphasize academics so much and protect our kids, I feel there's something lacking in our education," Ms. Wei says. Cupertino schools are trying to address some of these issues. Monta Vista recently completed a series of seminars focused on such issues as helping parents communicate better with their kids, and Lynbrook last year revised its homework guidelines with the goal of eliminating excessive and unproductive assignments.
The moves haven't stemmed the flow of whites out of the schools. Four years ago, Lynn Rosener, a software consultant, transferred her elder son from Monta Vista to Homestead High, a Cupertino school with slightly lower test scores. At the new school, the white student body is declining at a slower rate than at Monta Vista and currently stands at 52% of the total. Friday-night football is a tradition, with big half-time shows and usually 1,000 people packing the stands. The school offers boys' volleyball, a sport at which Ms. Rosener's son was particularly talented. Monta Vista doesn't.
"It does help to have a lower Asian population," says Homestead PTA President Mary Anne Norling. "I don't think our parents are as uptight as if my kids went to Monta Vista."
African immigrants show superior educational performance compared to other groups
10 April 2008 11:30 AfricaResource.com Black African Immigrants Significantly Exceed Whites in Level of Education:
"African-born blacks comprise about 16 percent of the U.S. foreign-born black population (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 2000), and are “considerably” more educated than other immigrants. The vast majority of these immigrants come from minority white countries in East and West Africa (e.g. Kenya and Nigeria). While less than 2 percent originate from North or South Africa (CIA World Factbook, 2004; Yearbook of immigration Statistics, 2003). An analysis of Census Bureau data by The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education (1999-2000) and the “Lewis Mumford Center for Comparative Urban and Regional Research” (2003) find that Black African immigrants to the United States are more likely to be college educated than ‘any’ other immigrant group, which included those from Europe, North America and Asia (see also Nisbett, 2002; U.S. Bureau of the Census, 2000). African immigrants have also been shown to be more highly educated than any native-born ethnic group including white and Asian Americans (Logan & Deane, 2003; Williams, 2005; The Economist, 1996; Arthur, 2000; Selassie, 1998; Nisbett, 2002).
Most research suggests that between 43.8 and 49.3 percent of “all” African immigrants in the United States hold a college diploma (Nisbett, 2002; Charles, 2007; U.S. Census, 2000). This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., substantially greater than the percentage of European immigrants, nearly “double” that of native-born white Americans, nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans, and more than “8 times” that of some Hispanic groups (Williams, 2005; Nisbett, 2002; Kent, 2007; The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, 1999-2000; U.S. Census, 2000)! Black immigrants from Africa have also been shown to have rates of college graduation that are “more” than double that of the U.S. born population, in general (Williams, 2005). For example, in 1997, 19.4 percent of all adult African immigrants in the United States held a “graduate degree”, compared to 8.1 percent of adult whites (a difference of “more than” double) and 3.8 percent of adult blacks in the United States, respectively (The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, 1999-2000). This shows that America has an equally large achievement gap between white Americans and African born immigrants as between native born white and black Americans.
In the UK, 1988, the Commission for Racial Equality conducted an investigation on the admissions practices of St. George's, and other medical colleges, who set aside a certain number of places for minority students. This informal quota system reflected the percentage of minorities in the general population. It was discovered that minority students with Chinese, Indian, or black African heritage had higher academic qualifications for university admission than did whites (Blacks in Britain from the West Indies had lower academic credentials than did whites). In fact, blacks with African origins over the age of 30 had the highest educational qualifications of any ethnic group in the British Isles (Cross, 1994). According to the 1991 British Census, 26.5 percent of black Britons who were born in Africa had at least some college education. In contrast, only 13.4 percent of white Britons had gone to college.Thus, the evidence pointed to the fact that minority quotas for university admissions were actually working against students from these ethnic groups who were on average more qualified for higher education than their white peers (Cross, 1994; Also see, Dustmann and Theodoropoulos, 2006).
Dustmann and Theodoropoulos (2006) provided the first thorough investigation of educational attainment and economic behavior of ethnic minority immigrants and their children in Britain. This study investigated how British born minorities performed in terms of education, employment and wages when compared to their parent’s generation, as well as to comparable groups of white natives using 27 years of “LFS data” (Labour Force Survey). In both generations Black Africans topped the list in both years of schooling/educational qualifications and wages/employment followed by Indian and Chinese immigrants. This study generally found a strong educational background for Britain’s ethnic minority immigrant population; with second generation ethnic minorities, ‘on average’, doing better than their parents, and “substantially better” than their white peers in most socio-economic indicators and outcomes.
Again, when comparing immigrants in the United States one quickly finds that the racialist models adopted by many Psychologists do not always predict outcomes in the way one might expect. For example, it has been shown that black immigrants born from Zimbabwe (96.7 percent), Botswana (95.5 percent) have high school graduation rates that far exceed all white immigrant and native born groups. While the average Nigerian immigrant (58.6 percent) living in the United States is “eight times” more likely to have obtained a bachelors degree than the average Portuguese born (7.3 percent) (Dixon D, 2006; Dixon D, 2005)!
The African born in the United States are concentrated in management or professional and sales or office-related occupations. Of the employed population age 16 and older in the civilian labor force, the African born are much more likely than the foreign born in general to work in management and professional occupations as well as sales and office occupations (i.e. clerical/administrative). Additionally, the African born are less likely to work in service, production, transportation, material moving, construction, and maintenance occupations than the foreign born in general (Dixon D, 2006). In the UK a study by Li and Heath, from Birmingham University and Oxford University (respectively), found that Africans are more likely to be in professional and managerial jobs than white British men, with a large proportion, about 40%, holding these positions (Li and Heath, 2006; Cassidy, 2006). Black African Educational Attainment and their Implications for IQ:
The information presented above suggests that African born blacks residing in western countries as a group possess IQs that are between 5 points and a full standard deviation (15 IQ points) above that of whites living in these countries (see, Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999; Richardson, 2002; Cross, 1994; Williams, 2005; Nisbett, 2002). So that if one accepts the research suggesting direct casual relationships between academic attainment and IQ (Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999) the median IQ for African blacks residing in the west should be about 110! This is especially true for those living in the United States and in the UK. One may also expect to find, according to much of the “corroborative” literature that relates IQ with education, approximately twice the number of African born immigrants with IQs in the 115 range, than among the general white American population (Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999; Williams, 2005; Nisbett, 2002); and more than twice the number of African immigrants in the 125 IQ range (see Gottfredson, 1998; Nisbett, 2002; The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, 1999-2000). For example, in the United States, African born blacks and their offspring have been reported to exceed American born whites in several of the most cognitive socio-economic indicators – ‘the areas of educational attainment and occupational status’ -- in ways that are virtually identical to the gaps observed between native born white and black Americans (Nisbett, 2002; Charles, 2007; Le, 2007; Le, 2007; US Census Bureau, Census 2000. "5% Public Use Microdata Sample.").
Some advantages to using academic attainment comparisons for the analysis of major group differences in IQ in Western industrialized nations are that they provide very big numbers, sample sizes often in the hundreds of thousands, that are genuinely random; and consequently specific ethnicities can be compared with statistical confidence. Evidence shows that the differences in overall educational attainment observed between African born blacks in the United States and UK and native born whites are quite spectacular! Indeed, if one chooses to adopt the racial hereditarian thinking of Jensen (1980), Herrnstein and Murray (1994) or Gottfredson (1998), these disparities become suggestive of underlying intelligence differences between the two populations; with these differences in “strong favor” of African born blacks! Though higher cognitive indices are said by some to be predictive of more educational achievements and more education predictive of higher intellectual outcomes (e.g., Brody, 1997; Ceci & Williams, 1997), so that there are reciprocal relationships. Most who study African immigrants attribute their inclination toward academic attainment to be the result of positive cultural factors (Arthur, 2000; Selassie, 1998).
In the United States today, most claims regarding differences between ethnic ‘populations’ in relationship to IQ test performance are based on statistically derived data that relate to scholastic aptitude tests (e.g. Flynn, 2006). With this in mind, and acknowledging the superior educational attainment of African blacks in the United States (and elsewhere) it can thus be argued, because of their superior educational attainment levels, that they must also surmount far more in number and more difficult scholastic aptitude tests, in general, which in turn would require higher level IQs (see Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999). As whites on average do not, or are unable to attain the same levels of academic achievement within these (their own!) academic institutional frameworks, they must also by the racialist thinking employed by some, possess significantly lower cogitative indices on the group level (e.g. Jensen, 1980; Gottfredson, 1986, 1998). In fact, attainment differences of these ‘grand’ magnitudes would suggest that American whites, in particular, are at a significant intellectual handicap when matched against immigrants of black African, East Indian, and East Asian descent. Incidentally, most American whites themselves are the children or grandchildren of “self-selected,” voluntary immigrants from Europe (Ogbu and Simons, 1998), and thus these trends can not be said to result from immigrant selectivity.
African born blacks residing in Western countries tend also to be concentrated in higher level professional occupations, which are considered (by some) to be more intellectually demanding; requiring greater cognitive ability (Jensen, 1980; Gottfredson, 1986; Herrnstein and Murray, 1994), than the average occupations of either American or British born whites (Nisbett, 2002; Dixon, 2006; Li and Heath, 2006; Dustmann and Theodoropoulos, 2006). According to IQ advocates and social Darwinists, alike, these occupational differences should also be indicative of higher levels of intelligence among black African immigrants than among whites (e.g. Gottfredson, 1986; Jensen 1980). Cole (1990), argues that the relevance of school-based skills, such as those found on IQ and scholastic aptitude tests, will grow as the outside-of-school contexts becomes more like that of school itself. While demand for these kinds of school based skills are found most frequently among the clerical/administrative occupations (Richardson, 2002) which African born blacks residing in western countries tend to be found overrepresented (Nisbett, 2002; Dixon, 2006). In fact, as virtually all IQ tests in popular use today were designed specifically for the purposes of predicting academic success and occupational status, it could thus be argued that the west’s hereditarian “Cognitive Elite” (discussed in “The Bell Curve”) could be best described as black men and women from Africa.
Something else to note, according to the New York Times (Roberts, 2005), for the first time in history more blacks are coming to the United States from Africa than during the entire span of the transatlantic slave trade: “Immigration figures show that since 1990 more Africans have arrived voluntarily than the total who disembarked in chains before the United States outlawed international slave trafficking in 1807. “ For example, research shows that around 15% of Ghana’s 20million citizens live aboard (Owusu-Ankomah 2006). Similar trends can be observed among other African states. The U.S. Census Bureau's 2005 American Community Survey counted 114,000 black African immigrants in the Washington metropolitan area, alone, accounting for about 11 percent of the area’s total immigrant population. Less than 6 percent arrived before 1980. In other words: black African achievement can not simply be dismissed as that of a “small group” of elites entirely unrepresentative of the greater continent. Moreover, the academic attainment and occupational achievements of black Africans are not only documented in the United States, but also the UK (Li and Heath, 2006; Dustmann, Theodoropoulos, 2006) and Canada (Guppy and Davies, 1998; Boyd, 2002; The Canadian Encyclopedia, 2008)."
They have three to five times their proportionate share of college faculty, architects, scientists, teachers, engineers, and physicians. They are overrepresented among winners of National Merit Scholarships, U.S. Presidential Scholarships, Arts Recognition and Talent Search scholars, and Westinghouse Science Talent Search scholars. They are overrepresented at American's most prestigious universities (Flynn 1991), constituting roughly 50% of the freshmen at the University of California at Berkeley and 10% to 30% of students in many other elite universities (Arenson 2007). They score higher on the SAT and ACT, especially in math. In published "school report cards" mandated by the No Child Left Behind Act, they perform much better than other minority groups. They generally excel in quantitative skills and outnumber whites in engineering and computer science disciplines (Hune and Chan 1997). Conservative scholars such as Richard Lynn show Asians achieving higher test scores than whites and estimate the IQs of Asians in their native countries to be higher than that of whites (Lynn 1991). The Asian superiority was especially pronounced in math (Stevenson and Lee 1990). The Asian advantage seems to prevail even in adoption situations. An adoption study of Korean children adopted by whites in Belgium (average adoption age 1.15), compared the tests of the Asian children with those of native whites, using the French version of the well known WISC test. The Asian children obtained a mean IQ of 119- some 19 points ahead of native whites. This was later norm-corrected to about 110 points, still ahead of native whites. (Sternberg 2000). In the 19930s the black-white IQ gap was estimated at some 15 points. This had narrowed to approximately 8 points by the late 1990s (Dickens & Flynn 2006). This 8-point gap is comparable to the 6-point gap between whites and Asians based on Lynn's data cited above.
Asian American students have also been found to spend significantly more time on homework (Steinberg 1996) and parents have higher educational expectations for their children than White Americans did (Mau, 1997). Golden (2006) revealed that colleges held Asian-American students to a higher standard than whites. Golden concluded that some Asian-American students who would have been admitted if they were of any other ethnicity got rejected -- often for reasons based on stereotype -- to make room for "more desirable" students. Consequently, Asian-American students face by far the lowest admissions rate of any ethnic group (17.6%, compared with 23.8% for whites, 33.7% for blacks, and 26.8% for Hispanics) (Shea 2006), despite the fact that they constitute great numbers of students in some prestigious universities. Asians also seem to have less mental health problems than whites. A 2007 analysis of 379 National Institute of Mental Health-funded psychiatric clinical trial studies published between 1995 and 2004 found that Asian Americans made up only 0.6% of the patients studied -- the lowest representation of any ethnic group (Morain 2007).
Asian students are a remarkable 2.5 times more likely than their white classmates to qualify fir admission for the prestigious the University of California system, They make up 10 percent of the state's population, but almost half of the student body at the state's two flagship schools, Berkeley and UCLA. Of the top bracket in the basic SAT I, Asians made up 25% in Math and 11% in verbal, even though only 4.2% of the eligible students. In the more specialized SAT II tests, Asian scores were again spectacular, triple their share of top scores in writing and history, five times their proportional share in biology and about 8 times theit share in boh SAT II math tests, in chemistry and in physics. (Thernstrom S. (2004) No Excuses: Closing the Racial Gap in Learning. p- 88-110).The same pattern shows in higher income Asians. Asian parents who had earned graduate degrees outperformed white students from comparable homes by 42% on SAT scores. In verbal scores, whites from higher income levels do better, although this is reversed at income levels 60,000 or above where Asians seize advantage. Thernstrom 2004 and other researchers attribute this to the fact that many Asia students grow up in homes in which English is not the main language, and suggests that Asians would outperform white even on verbal tests if English was the first language of Asian test takers. He shows that over a third of second generation Asians ranked in the top quartile nationally on national NELS tests.
In highly selective institutions of higher education the Asian presence is striking. Only 4% of the US population is Asian, Asians made up 27% of the 2000-2001 freshman class at MIT, 25% at Stanford, 24% at Cal tech, 18% at Columbia, 17% at Harvard and 12% at Duke or Princeton. Asians are far more likely to graduate from college. In 2000, a majority (54%) of Asians ages 25-29 had a bachelor's degree or more compared to just 34% of whites. [quote]
"The 20-point Asian-white graduation rate gap is even larger than the 16-point black-white gap." (Thernstrom p. 85).
How many times have qualified candidates not gotten jobs because the coach wanted to hire a friend or in this case a mistress?
Just read how Petrino made sure his lady friend got a position that she wasn’t qualified for.
Former Arkansas football coach Bobby Petrino tried to sidestep University of Arkansas guidelines to quickly hire his mistress, Jessica Dorrell, as the team’s player development coordinator, according to documents obtained by SI.com. The documents show that Petrino sought a waiver to circumvent a university affirmative action policy requiring that the job be posted for at least 30 days before interviews could commence. Dorrell’s first interview was scheduled even before the waiver was granted by the university’s Office of Equal Opportunity and Compliance.
From 159 applicants, three finalists were identified: Ben Wilkerson, Tiffany Fields and Dorrell. According to the resumes they submitted to Arkansas, Wilkerson and Fields had football backgrounds. Dorrell’s resume did not mention football.
The job description also listed “master’s degree in related field” as a preferred qualification. Again, Dorrell was the only finalist not to meet that standard.
According to his resume, Wilkerson completed a master’s degree in sports management at LSU in August 2011. He also had the most extensive football background. Wilkerson was a four-year starter at offensive line at LSU, from 2001 to ’04. He was part of the school’s 2004 national championship team and was named a first-team All-America. He went on to play for the Cincinnati Bengals in 2005 and ’06, and for the Atlanta Falcons in 2007 and ’08. Petrino was Atlanta’s head coach in ’07. At the time he applied for the Arkansas job, Wilkerson was an intern with the LSU football program.
Fields, the third finalist, has two master’s degrees from Arkansas, one in communication and one in education, and is currently a law school student at the law school. She worked as a tutor at Arkansas for student athletes, and since ’09 had been an Arkansas recruiting assistant and helped organize summer football camps — which is one of the player development coordinator’s duties — recruiting visits, and team travel. Petrino is listed among Fields’s references.
Dorrell’s resume, unlike the other two, makes no specific mention of the job requirements, but does mention other traits, like “fundraising skills” that are not part of the Arkansas job listing. At the time of her application, according to her resume, the former All-SEC volleyball player was working as the assistant director for women’s athletics at the Razorback Foundation, and before that worked as a graduate assistant in the athletic department.
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Ira Katznelson, When Affirmative Action Was White 2005, WW Norton
Ira Katznelson, When Affirmative Action Was White 2005, WW Norton
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WHEN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION WAS WHITE- author Katznelson traces history to show that goals, timetables and quotas were specifically put in place to benefit whites at the expense of blacks beginning in the New Deal era. Indeed such quotas were embraced by southern whites with the specific understanding that they would benefit and not blacks. In program after program, blacks were systematically cut out of the loop and sidelined while whites pocketed the benefits and filled body count quotas. Katznelson shows how this was accomplished while whites used a seemingly "race neutral" approach.
EXCERPT from some book reviews:
Rather than seeing affirmative action developing out of the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s, Katznelson finds its origins in the New Deal policies of the 1930s and 1940s. And instead of seeing it as a leg up for minorities, Katznelson argues that the prehistory of affirmative action was supported by Southern Democrats who were actually devoted to preserving a strict racial hierarchy, and that the resulting legislation was explicitly designed for the majority: its policies made certain, he argues, that whites received the full benefit of rising prosperity while blacks were deliberately left out. Katznelson supports this startling claim ingeniously, showing, for instance, that while the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act was a great boon for factory workers, it did nothing for maids and agricultural laborers—employment sectors dominated by blacks at the time—at the behest of Southern politicians. Similarly, Katznelson makes a strong case that the GI Bill, an ostensibly color-blind initiative, unfairly privileged white veterans by turning benefits administration over to local governments, thereby ensuring that Southern blacks would find it nearly impossible to participate... <<end excerpt>>
Katznelson places into contemporary context the cause of racial inequity that is directly related to government policies, which are widely believed to benefit blacks but which have actually benefited whites. He eschews the more generalist focus on slavery and white supremacy as the causes of racial inequality and focuses on government policies of the New Deal and post-World War II distribution of veteran benefits. He identifies in a practical sense government policies, most of which appear neutral on their face, that were designed to restrict blacks and, in fact, impeded them from progressing commensurate with white America. The war economy and labor needs expanded opportunities for blacks and substantially reduced economic disparities. But postwar policies to promote home ownership and labor laws regarding minimum wages deliberately excluded blacks. Other policies providing the engine that produced today's middle class, including the GI benefits that financed college education, reinforced the discriminatory patterns...
Affirmative Action primarily benefits white women says conservative female author
"I regard affirmative action as pernicious — a system that had wonderful ideals when it started but was almost immediately abused for the benefit of white middle-class women. And the number one sign of it is in the universities. The elite schools were destroyed by affirmative action for women, not for blacks." --Author/lecturer Prof. Camille Paglia
If as some authors hold AA benefits mostly white women, white guys also benefit from that extra pay and perks brought home by their white wives under AA
Social security setup benefits primarily white women at the expense of blacks says conservative author
Says historian/economist Thomas Sowell, "[Social Security] is not a racial policy...but economists who have studied it have long described it as a system that transfers money from black men to white women, given the different life expectancies of these two groups.”
Other "minorities" quickly piggy-backed on a program ostensibly set up to help blacks including white women who are not a numerical "minority argues conservative author Sowell.
QUOTE: "As in other countries, however, these policies spread far beyond the initial beneficiaries. Blacks are just 12 percent of the American population, but affirmative action programs have expanded over the years to include not only other racial or ethnic groups, but also women, so that such policies now apply to a substantial majority of the American population... the top 20 percent of black income earners had their income share rising at about the same rate as that of their white counterparts, while the bottom 20 percent of black income earners had their income share fall at more than double the rate of the bottom 20 percent of white income earners. In short, the affirmative action era in the United States saw the more fortunate blacks benefit while the least fortunate lost ground in terms of their share of incomes. Neither the gains nor the losses can be arbitrarily attributed to affirmative action but neither can affirmative action claim to have advanced lower-income blacks when in fact those fell behind."
Sowell holds that immigrants classified as "minorities", suffering no past discrimination in the United States are benefitting well from Affirmative Action. The Fanjul family from Cuba for example, with a fortune exceeding $500 million - received contract set asides for minority businesses. European businessmen from Portugal received the bulk of the money paid to "minority owned construction firms" between 1986 and 1990 in Washington D.C. Asian businessmen immigrating to the United States had also received preferential access to government contracts.
Sowell also argues that while blacks are the claimed beneficiaries of a program primarily intended to benefit blacks, a huge majority of "minority and female owned" businesses are in fact owned by groups ''other'' than blacks, including Asians, Hispanics and women. In addition the vast majority of "minority" firms appeared to gain little from government set-asides. in Cincinnati for example, 682 minority firms appeared o n the city's approved list but 13% of these companies received 62% of preferential access and 83% of the money. Nationally, a miniscule one-fourth of one percent of minority-owned enterprises are certified to receive preferences under the Small Business Administration, but even within this tiny number, 2% of the firms received 40% of the money.<ref> Sowell, 2004. Affirmative Action Around the World, pp 115-147</ref>
Alleged "calamity" affecting white males "swamped" by black AA quotas is bogus, according to detailed US Dept of Labor survey of reverse discrimination cases. Most cases brought by white complainers lacked merit, courts ruled.
FROM NY TIMES ARTICLE- CITING US DEPT OF LABOR STUDIES Reverse-discrimination claims fell into two categories: individual decisions in which a white man asserted that he would have been hired for a job had he been black or female, and cases that claimed programs or plans unfairly favored women and minorities.
“Many of the cases were the result of a disappointed applicant failing to examine his or her own qualifications,” Mr. Blumrosen wrote, “and erroneously assuming that when a woman or minority got the job, it was because of race or sex, not qualifications.
Affirmative action has caused very few claims of reverse discrimination by white people, according to a draft of a report prepared by the Labor Department. The author says his findings poke holes in the theory that affirmative-action programs unfairly benefit minorities at the expense of white workers.
The report, prepared by a law professor at Rutgers University, Alfred W. Blumrosen, found fewer than 100 reverse-discrimination cases among more than 3,000 discrimination opinions by Federal district and appeals courts from 1990 to 1994.
A "high proportion" of the reverse-discrimination claims lacked merit, the review found. Reverse discrimination was established in six cases, and the courts provided appropriate relief in those cases, it said.
"This research suggests that the problem of 'reverse discrimination' is not widespread; and that where it exists, the courts have given relief," Mr. Blumrosen wrote. "Nothing in these cases would justify dismantling the existing structure of equal employment opportunity programs." Reverse-discrimination claims fell into two categories: individual decisions in which a white man asserted that he would have been hired for a job had he been black or female, and cases that claimed programs or plans unfairly favored women and minorities.
"Many of the cases were the result of a disappointed applicant failing to examine his or her own qualifications," Mr. Blumrosen wrote, "and erroneously assuming that when a woman or minority got the job, it was because of race or sex, not qualifications." http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/31/us/reverse-discrimination-complaints-rare-labor-study-reports.html (Blumrosen, A. (1996: pp 5-6) US Department of Labor: Discrimination COmplaints Review (1990-1994))
Other detailed studies BY SCHOLARS show very little reverse discrimnation against whites in employment, exposing the bogus propaganda spun by racist "biodiversity" proponents. Most discrimination complaints brought by white men actually involve sex, not race discrimintion, and the main opponent of the white men in said complaints was WHITE women.
"Reverse discrimination is rate both in absolute terms and relative to conventional discrimination. The most direct evidence for this conclusion comes from employment-audit studies. On every measured outcome, African-American men were much more likely than white men to experience discrimination, and Latinos were more likely than non-Hispanic men to experience discrimination (Heckman and Siegelman 1993, p. 218) Statistics on the numbers and outcomes of complaints of employment discrimination also suggest that reverse discriination is rare. According to national surverys, relatively few whites have experienced reverse discrimination. Only 5 to 12 percent of whites beleive that their race has cost them a job or promotion, compared to 36 percent of African AMericans... Alfred Blumrosen's (1996, pp. 5-6) exhaustive review of discrimination complaints filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission offers additional evidence that reverse discrimination is rare... [of cases] two percent were by white men charging sex, race or national origin discrimination (three-quarters of these charged sex discriminatin) and 1.8 percent were by whote women charging race discrimination (Blumrosen p. 5)" --Tracy E. Ore - 2005. The social construction of difference and inequality p. 390
Other detailed studies show trivial to almost no "reverse discrimination" against whites in employment. These studies note that reverse discrimination has occurred, but its prevalence is rare QUOTE: "Barbara Reskin 1998) also acknowledges that some white men are hurt. In the four-page section n reverse discrimination, she discusses studies showing that few EEOC cases involving charges of dsicrimination filed by white men (Blumrosen 1995, 1996) and the few federal appeals court cases involving discrimination where white men are the plaintiffs (Burstein, 1991; She concludes, "Although rare, reverse discrimination does occur." --Fred Pincus 2010. Reverse discrimination: dismantling the myth
Curiously, the background of "Affirmative Action" quotas- Richard Nixon's "Philadelphia Plan", does not reveal any hard push for such quotas by black leaders at the time. The main drive for the quota plan seemed to have come from elsewhere. History does not show blacks lined up at the time clamoring for quotas, as alleged by assorted right wingers...
QUOTE: "What needs to be explained however, is why, if affirmative action was the result of civil rights activists moving into the halls of government, very few calls for affirmative action programs were heard at the time of their "capture".. Besides localized demands for quotas in large cities, and a brief national discussion of their possibility before the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, during which civil rights leaders made clear their opposition to quotas, very little was heard about the issue at all...
"key civil rights movement figures ignored or opposed the Philadelphia Plan when it was introduced an affirmative action policy in the construction industry in 1969... David Skrennty devotes an entire section in his book, The Ironies of Affirmative Action, to this very question. Noting that, in fact, none of the civil rights groups asked for affirmative action before it was implemented, he asks why, if racial preferences was in their interest, they did not demand it in 1964? His answer is simple: 'Anything beyond color blindness has a strange taboo-like quality. Advocacy of racial preferences was one of those 'third rails' of American politics: touch it and you die." --Yuill, K, 2006. Richard Nixon and the Rise of Affirmative Action. p- 2-14
Historically many white unions have systematically discriminated against blacks, while speaking the language of progressive "brotherhood" and "merit." In some workplaces, skilled blacks trained lesser skilled whites who then moved up the ladder, while the blacks were denied promotion not simply by outright discrimination but by a subtle web of union rules and restrictions.
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Historically in the U.S. IQ tests have always been used to reify the cognitive skills of blacks who on account of poor educational background have scored 85 on IQ tests. The U.S. average is 97--so that's a 12 point gap. Dickens and Flynn(2006) show based on their study of a number of test results that from 1972 to 2002 blacks have gained minimally 5 points on whites fort the same period. That means that the average black IQ for that period would be 90 to the white 97.
Clearly the gains are due to environmental causes. But even when using the old scores of 85 blacks still outdo a host of nations in West Asia(Iraq 83,Iran 84, Saudi Arabia 78, etc.), South Asia(India 81) and perform on par with South East Asian nations(average 86). They also score higher than Central American nations(Mexico 83, Guatemala, 78, etc.).
Obviously, IQ scores reflect a combination of environmental and genetic[in the broad sense] factors as is evidenced in the yet to be refuted "Flynn effect".
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I think you guys are missing the bigger picture. Its not an objective measure. And while it reflects a poor educational quality, it is deeper than a lack of material resources or even encouraging teachers. Its a culture test that measures a particular level of assimilation to Euro learning/thinking style. Or at least the styles preferred by them. Its questionable to even assume closing the gap is a good thing as it means we come closer to the eradication of other learning/thinking styles.
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(a) Only 1% of the African American population has an IQ over 120, but 9% of the White American population does (Rushton, 2000).
(b) 2.3% of White American have an IQ of 130+ (gifted), 20 times greater than the percentage of blacks who do. Only 0.00044% of African American score over 130 in IQ (Rushton, 2000).
“Black children of parents with graduate degrees have lower SAT scores than white children of parents with a high-school diploma or less.” (La Griffe du Lion, 2000a).
(c) Millions of dollars have been spent on programs to erase the gap between white and black academic achievements. All have failed.
“… public schools now spend more per capita on black children than on white.” (Levin, 1997, p. 127).
(d) The mean African-American IQ is 85, the mean White-American IQ 100 (Lynn, 2006).
(e) The IQ difference between blacks and whites is observable by age 3, indicating that it is genetic. (Levin, 1997, p. 103).
Sex Data
(a) Blacks have the most sexual partners and are the least sexually moral. In a recent study 46% of black men and 13% of black women reported having at least 15 partners in a lifetime, more than other racial group (National Center for Health Statistics, 2002).
(b) Blacks have the highest incidence of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), a consequence of their sexual promiscuity (CDC, 2005).
(c) African Americans represent about 12.8% of the U.S. population (U.S. Census, 2005), but black men are diagnosed with HIV at more than seven times the rate of white men, and black women at 20 times the rate of white women. (Kalb, 2006; Hall, 2008).
(d) Blacks have the highest rates for other sexually transmitted diseases as well. About 40% of U.S. black adults have genital herpes, compared to 14% of whites (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Aug., 2006).
Behaviour Data
(a) African-Americans statistically have the lowest father involvement (e.g., illegitimacy, divorce) which is tied to promiscuity in Black girls and aggression in Black boys (Blain, 1988; Heatherton, 1972).
(b) Full chattel slavery today is only practiced by Blacks ("Scale of African Slavery Revealed," BBC News, April 23, 2004).
(c) Go to any city or country in the world that has a significant black population, and blacks will be overrepresented in the criminal population (Taylor, 2007).
(d) Using data from international surveys of crime, (Rushton, 2000a, pp. 158-160) found that violent crime was twice as common in Sub-Sahara Africa and the Caribbean as in predominantly white countries.
(e) Although Blacks are only about 12.8% of the U.S. population (U.S. Census, 2005), among the 1.4 million inmates sentenced to more than one year at year-end 2003, an estimated 44 percent were Black (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2004).
(f) Compared to non-blacks, blacks are seven times more likely to commit murder, 48 eight times more likely to commit robbery, and three times more likely to use a gun in a crime (NCF, 2005).
(g) Between 1976, when the Feds began keeping track, and 2005, blacks committed 52.2% of the homicides in the U.S., despite being less than 12.5% of the population. (Sailer, 2008).
(h) During the 10 year period from 1975 to 1985, spousal homicide among blacks was 8.4 times higher than that of whites (Mercy, 1989). Modern statostics repeat these figures.
(i) Black rap “music” and black leaders encourage blacks to commit crimes against whites. At least one prominent black leader, Khallid Muhammad (a personal assistant of Louis Farrakhan and an event organizer with Al Sharpton), has openly called for blacks to kill whites, even women and babies.
(j) Blacks have a high crime rate for rape, regardless of what country they are in.
(k) In a 2005 survey on “rape and sexual assault” in the United States, 37,460 white women were victims of blacks, but white-on-black rape was too low to show up in the statistics.
(l) Between 2001 and 2003, there were, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year, a black-white ratio of 17.1:1. (U.S. Department of Justice’s National Crime Victimization Study (NCVS)). Since there are five-and-one-half times as many whites as blacks in America, that means that blacks rape whites over ninety times as frequently as whites rape blacks. The actual difference is much higher because the “white“ figure (900) includes Hispanics, who are counted as white. Thus, the real black-white ratio is likely 200:1 or higher. (NCF, 2005).
(m) The number of white men raped by blacks in prison may be even greater than the number of white women raped by blacks (Human Rights Watch, 2001).
(n) Although “blacks committed 10,000 gang-rapes against whites between 2001 and 2003, the NCVS samples did not pick up a single ‘white’ [includes some Hispanics]-on-black gang rape.” (NCF, 2005).
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It's all racial politics because IQ tests are hardly ever used in Asian countries such as Japan, China, and Taiwan. Yet these countries have advanced greatly in technological prowess due to their strong emphasis on education--even to the point of instituting "cram schools" to help in the process. In those countries academic failure such as failing university entrance exams can produce such stress and personal disappointment that suicide is the outcome.
As I said IQ tests in the U.S. come with heavy racial and racism baggage because they are naively assumed by the simple-minded white public that they actually measure just innate intelligence--when in actual fact scores derive from both the cultural environment and cognitive abilities. The Flynn Effect reinforces this point: IQ scores in the West have been increasing by 0.33 points per annum since 1947.
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LOL. J. Philippe "How far do you shoot" Rushton, a crackpot and phoney psychometrician, Michael Levin[also an amusing crackpot], Arthur Jensen, Richard Lynn, et al. all belong to the fringe ranges of serious psychometric studies.
They produce studies and make claims that are consistently contradicted by their own data--yet they persist in their fanatical commitment to a debunked paradigm.
Examples: Lynn's studies show that the IQ scores for countries they deemed "caucasoid" such as Iraq(ancient Sumer), Iran(ancient Persia) scored below the old standard African American score of 85. Iraq scored 83, Iran, approximately 84. India also considered "caucasoid" scored 81 on average. Wealthy West Asian nations like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait score 79 approximately.
Greece in Europe scored 94 on IQ tests and the lowest immigrant scores of large numbers of Europeans to the U.S. were those from Italy who scored 83. By contrast Scandinavian migrants scored 97--the U.S. norm.
And the South East Asian scores are in the 80s range too. Philippines scores 86, Indonesia scores 87, Cambodia is also approximately 87.
In Central America--Mexico(Hebert 1978) scored 83 and places like Guatemala score 78. All these scores are reported by Lynn and Vanhanen in their text "IQ and the Wealth of Nations".
So the results of their studies show that IQ is not all tracked by race--yet this continues to be their fanatically dogmatic assumption.
James Flynn in his "What is Intelligence" again reinforces the claim that IQ is very much a function of environment with his studies demonstrating the robustness of the Flynn Effect.
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If there are learning styles then they are purely cultural and change over time.
In Asia rote memorisation is the traditional way of learning. This is also the case in West Asian and Islamic countries where recitation and rote learning is the norm.
Point is that in the West rote learning was also the norm until about 50 years ago. The teacher gave notes and you just learned them by heart then regurgitated them exam time.
Human brains operate the same everywhere--except in the abnormal cases of autism, idiot savantism, genius for music, chess, mathematics, etc--so it's a question of how the brain is conditioned to appraise information. The young individual can be taught to accept inputs uncritically or he/she can be trained to appraise knowledge critically. So it's rote memorising of critical thinking or combinations of both.
Some parents train their children from very young to appraise information critically while others don't. And that in the final analysis is what counts.
If there are different learning styles for different peoples then they are derived totally from cultural norms, and nothing else.
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you are a fucking joke. pathetic. do you believe half the sh/t you say?
quote:Originally posted by Oshun: Asians ranked highly by white standards often encourage for example, similar learning styles and educational structure to whites and are even more rigorous in implementation than Euros are.
If there are learning styles then they are purely cultural and change over time.
In Asia rote memorisation is the traditional way of learning. This is also the case in West Asian and Islamic countries where recitation and rote learning is the norm.
Point is that in the West rote learning was also the norm until about 50 years ago. The teacher gave notes and you just learned them by heart then regurgitated them exam time.
Human brains operate the same everywhere--except in the abnormal cases of autism, idiot savantism, genius for music, chess, mathematics, etc--so it's a question of how the brain is conditioned to appraise information. The young individual can be taught to accept inputs uncritically or he/she can be trained to appraise knowledge critically. So it's rote memorising of critical thinking or combinations of both.
Some parents train their children from very young to appraise information critically while others don't. And that in the final analysis is what counts.
If there are different learning styles for different peoples then they are derived totally from cultural norms, and nothing else.
Rather than argue this, Im just gonna say that it doesnt matter. Even if it was as simple to argue it as "cultural" Euro learning styles are just ONE style of learning/cognitive skill. All others shouldnt be annihilated to conform to it. You mentioning the ability for some children to "change over time" sounds like your sayin common black learning styles are something to be transcended and are bad cause Euro tests are only designed to attempt testing on their kids.
quote:Originally posted by facts: you are a fucking joke. pathetic. do you believe half the sh/t you say?
quote:Originally posted by Oshun: Asians ranked highly by white standards often encourage for example, similar learning styles and educational structure to whites and are even more rigorous in implementation than Euros are.
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I don't know what is a "common black learning style".
Here in Africa at the universities students come to class, listen to what the lecturer is saying and writing on the boards and they take notes--in all subjects.
Some are quicker than others, some pay more attention than others, and some come to class more often than others.
Those who work the hardest and show most interest in the subject usually do better than others.
Unfortunately, many of the books used are published in Europe or the U.S. But the students understand what they are reading though at different paces.
I don't think students in African universities are aware of "common black learning styles". The point is to understand the material as quickly as possible and remember the key points.
So if, for example, you become a medical doctor you will know what you are doing when you see a patient and not make them worse than when they came in.
Patience, memory, and logical thinking is what efficient learning is all about. Some hostudents can read and study for many urs each day, others don't. Nothing to do with "black learning styles". Some African students have successfully studied in places like Taiwan, China and Japan and they have applied the same methods they used at home.
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: IQ Data
(a) Only 1% of the African American population has an IQ over 120, but 9% of the White American population does (Rushton, 2000).
(b) 2.3% of White American have an IQ of 130+ (gifted), 20 times greater than the percentage of blacks who do. Only 0.00044% of African American score over 130 in IQ (Rushton, 2000).
“Black children of parents with graduate degrees have lower SAT scores than white children of parents with a high-school diploma or less.” (La Griffe du Lion, 2000a).
Hey Cassi did they test for cranial features? After all you've said AAs in America can be Caucasoid. It would be an invalid test unless they divided blacks by cranial features right? But of course you know that Cranial features are of little value in determining actual intelligence or potential which is why you don't care for such things to be controlled. You just use it to claim civilizations as Euro.
Anyway, schools, IQ tests and general tests are designed around learning styles Euro Americans are more inclined to incorporate. It's not an objective measure of intellect. All three only focus on an aspect learning/problem solving style. This information is therefore meaningless in determining the potential of black students.
quote:(c) Millions of dollars have been spent on programs to erase the gap between white and black academic achievements. All have failed.
Most of these dollars fail to address major differences in learning style however. It dont say sh!t about the potential of black kids. Just that they aint assimilatin to white learning styles.
quote:(e) The IQ difference between blacks and whites is observable by age 3, indicating that it is genetic. (Levin, 1997, p. 103).
Or that differences in learning style form by that age.
quote:Sex Data
(a) Blacks have the most sexual partners and are the least sexually moral. In a recent study 46% of black men and 13% of black women reported having at least 15 partners in a lifetime, more than other racial group (National Center for Health Statistics, 2002).
Wait til Zarahan gets here.... Sides what does this have to do with education? I suppose we arent gonna get into who has the highest rates of paraphilia like zoophilia and pedophilia are we? And promiscuity is a conservative perspective of immorality. To continue on that line and suggest non conservative sexuality is wrong, Euro tolerance for say, homosexuality is also greater than it is in the black community.
quote:(c) African Americans represent about 12.8% of the U.S. population (U.S. Census, 2005), but black men are diagnosed with HIV at more than seven times the rate of white men, and black women at 20 times the rate of white women. (Kalb, 2006; Hall, 2008).
Euros have greater physical immunity to getting the disease. Blacks still think that it was administered by Euros for NWO population control, theres bio weapon documents that describe the creation of something similar to HIV.
quote: (a) African-Americans statistically have the lowest father involvement (e.g., illegitimacy, divorce) which is tied to promiscuity in Black girls and aggression in Black boys (Blain, 1988; Heatherton, 1972). [qb]
You know nothing. If black men are being overpoliced, stopped and frisked with no probable cause, and face school systems that help lead them there by assuming them stupid by only employing Euro learning styles/problem solving. The black family is going to be disrupted through these things, and father involvements gonna be diminished. Illegitimacy isnt as important as a paper saying your married doesnt cement families. Moreso, black culture has and still looks down on having kids before ready to care for them while teen pregnancy is glamorized and put on reality television. If they're from affluent families like Bristol Pailin she can actually make money getting knocked up and going to colleges to talk about it.
quote:[qb](b) Full chattel slavery today is only practiced by Blacks ("Scale of African Slavery Revealed," BBC News, April 23, 2004).
LOL bullsh!t.
First,notice how he tries to specify "chattel" slavery to impose his Euro standards and to diminish forced labor in Euro countries (esp. those caused by overpolicing and destruction of black communities). Lets look at Chattel/Trafficking in Africa though towards women (generally the more vulnerable sex except in Euro countries) shall wee?
Why that says that modern Egypt which YOU call Caucasoid not only fails to ban the practice, but that it is practiced commonly. Oh lookie there another hot spot? The Levant. In fact a lot of North Africa which is allegedly "Caucasoid." In Mauritania Arabs treat black slaves as property. More "Caucasoids", but only when convenient. Much of the so-called "true negro" portion of Africa (West Africa) has a prevalence of trafficking legality and practice on par with areas like Russia or Portugal and much of Asia is worse with limited illegality.
Goes without saying that many Euros have become more discreet than to make "slavery" (which they define for their benefit) legal. Instead places like the US rely on a prison industrial complex, over policing, and other tactics to encourage crime and poverty to supply their legal form of bondage. Its not illegal of course so it will never be referred to as a crime.
quote:(c) Go to any city or country in the world that has a significant black population, and blacks will be overrepresented in the criminal population (Taylor, 2007).
By Euro standards of criminality of course. Blacks are also often overrepresented as the poor. We must also not forget that the scramble for Africa was not a war of paperwork. Nor was the Holocaust. Nor is Americas unsactioned military presence around the world. White violence and criminality around the world is "legal" and therefore has never been allowed to be counted as criminality even as millions die due to their actions, will continue to die, or will remain on the fringe for the rest of their lives barely making it. It was the same reason many of your white ancestors enslaved and did the same things to other races on a massive level to own a disproportionate amount of the worlds wealth.
quote:(i) Black rap “music” and black leaders encourage blacks to commit crimes against whites. At least one prominent black leader, Khallid Muhammad (a personal assistant of Louis Farrakhan and an event organizer with Al Sharpton), has openly called for blacks to kill whites, even women and babies.
Mainstream rap is tailored to white youth and the industry is ran by white people. So who does this reveal as far as a desire for violence? And towards whites? Youve lost your damn mind. Mainstream rappers like Wayne and Kanye are busy with their lips on a white womans ass to even get the chance to rap about some notion of genocide. Drake is also a Jewish Mulatto. Hes soo callin for the kilin of whites right? You dont even listen to the stuff you b!tch about long enough to make a reasonable complaint. Theres plenty to diss modern mainstream hip hop for. A common theme for the mass murder of whites aint one of em.
quote:(j) Blacks have a high crime rate for rape, regardless of what country they are in.
(k) In a 2005 survey on “rape and sexual assault” in the United States, 37,460 white women were victims of blacks, but white-on-black rape was too low to show up in the statistics. [qb]
White perp. access to black people is less due to de facto segregation. Ironic you argue this when you have called blacks in the US "EurAfrican" and thus "Caucasoid." Now US blacks get to be "black" and "negroid" again.
quote:[qb](l) Between 2001 and 2003, there were, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year, a black-white ratio of 17.1:1. (U.S. Department of Justice’s National Crime Victimization Study (NCVS)). Since there are five-and-one-half times as many whites as blacks in America, that means that blacks rape whites over ninety times as frequently as whites rape blacks. The actual difference is much higher because the “white“ figure (900) includes Hispanics, who are counted as white. Thus, the real black-white ratio is likely 200:1 or higher. (NCF, 2005).
Stupid dumbass racist Tim Wise would mop the floor with you. The Crime Victimization study only reports children above the age of 12. Rape crimes more common among white men (like pedo rape) arent counted.
quote:(n) Although “blacks committed 10,000 gang-rapes against whites between 2001 and 2003, the NCVS samples did not pick up a single ‘white’ [includes some Hispanics]-on-black gang rape.” (NCF, 2005).
Not surpising that a prison culture of made mostly black males would not be the first raped or would be of any close comparable proportion in prison representation.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: I don't know what is a "common black learning style".
I was speaking of "black learning style" through context of America which the story was based from. Though they got those styles from Africa which does on some level reflect a common, traditional African learning styles.
quote:Here in Africa at the universities students come to class, listen to what the lecturer is saying and writing on the boards and they take notes--in all subjects.
Structurally, Universities are generally European around the world. I didnt mean African universities dont employ the same structure. But just cause they use the Euros structure to teach doesnt mean that the optimal learning style of the students is always the same.
quote:Those who work the hardest and show most interest in the subject usually do better than others.
You say those that have most interest usually do better which would suggest perhaps a field dependent learner.
quote:Patience, memory, and logical thinking is what efficient learning is all about. Some hostudents can read and study for many urs each day, others don't. Nothing to do with "black learning styles".
Actually it just might. Though I want to add the disclaimer of "common" or traditional learning styles.emphasis on Memorization and logical thought is actually part of one learning style. Their ability to succeed abroad with this style (esp. in places that prefer it) doesnt mean there is only one learning style.
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See Mr A-P, in South africa Black people have extremely testing learning conditions. Science students do not have any resources to perform scientific experiments, we have to memorize what each outcome is and what each chemical reaction looks like. Textbooks sometimes arrive only in nid year. Others learn under trees, ruins and just open fields (literally). I know this because I have been there but here I am, at university but still it is hard to adjust having to suddenly type my assignments when I had never used a computer before that (many Blacks now own computers but the majority don't). We have to learn in a tongue that is absolutely foreign to us but guess what? Afrikaaners ('Caucasoids') and the mixed-race 'Coloureds'actually get to write matric exams, get university tuition in their home language...AFRIKAANS and most also do not really understand English. Do you see the inequalities? They, the whites attend private schools and their 'public' education schools are way more resourced than township schools, what more for rural schools? despite these injustices Blacks do perform at the highest level academically as the links I have included show. Read!
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It is nice to actually talk about things you do not experience, except as fantasy television and books written to boost your people's self-esteem. No white child would make it out of these woods we're in, courtesy of your caucasoid angels who couldn't set a foot wrong, liar, deceiver!
#Note: South Africa, along with Nigeria, Egypt etc is one of the richest countries in Africa, yet when the conditions are like this for us here, I can barely imagine what other Africans have to overcome in thier countries to have a good life or just to pass your silly IQ test (amazing how it omits conditions on the one taking the test, only then would true intelligence scores emerge I posit) #Question: do you Mr Pyramidiot, believe you could make it through these conditions and get a mere 79 score?
Whatever problems blacks have it is the duty of black governments and black societies to solve them.
Almost 20 years after the dismantling of Apartheid it is surprising that in a place like SA scientific and lab materials are still scarce for the African students. What is the ANC government doing about these deficiencies in education.
In Nigeria it's the same despite daily inflows of petrodollars.
The simple axiom is that the black man must via his governments take responsibility for the educational state of their countries. But they don't. These governments seem lost in a daze. There is no sense of urgency in their actions. They just love to have others do what they should be doing themselves. That's why countries like China are let in so easily.
Individually, blacks do quite well in education. There are blacks who have gone to Russia, learned the language then went on to obtain good degrees in medicine, economics, engineering and the sciences in general. The same for black students who went to Germany, learned the language and performed well academically.
The thing about IQ tests has long been settled after the research done by Flynn and the fact that it is known that African American scores are uniformly higher than those of prestigious historical nations such as Iraq and Iran. Both were known in the past as Sumer(Mesopotamia) and Persia. India which supposedly had an impressive civilisation scores 81 on IQ tests. So IQ scores are determined by so-called race.
Rather than "race" the whole issue rev
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quote:Originally posted by Oshun: After all you've said AAs in America can be Caucasoid.
No I haven't. You are just a really poor troll.
And as usual you are a liar. Still if they didnt measure for cranial features they wont know how "dark Caucasoids" did! oh no! OH NOOOOOO
quote: Rather than race the whole thing revolves around levels of education and cultural conditioning.
aAl the same not objectively wrong to be of a different learning style. Nor should everyone conform to Euro preferred learning styles. If it's a matter of social "conditioning" I still think it's fine to be different.
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quote:But all other races can take the test, smdh. Blacks are so dumb that they had to legislate law to prevent them from having to take the test. WOW!
Idiot/Vermin! They say that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. You're in no position to bring up the subject of IQ. Simple 5th grade math makes you cringe, like the servile dog that you are, as I demonstrated in the thread below when you styled yourself "Gigantic".
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^ LOL Which is why I called him 'Gigantic Idiot'!
By the way, the premise of this thread is just as idiotic. Why would a group of children be "banned" from taking an IQ for supposedly having inferior IQs?? Say this were true, would it even matter?? If I had a mentally deficient child, and I wanted to get his IQ tested just to see what it is and especially if I'm paying money for it, how would that matter to the testers being payed??
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What happens when biased 'hereditarianism' and 'biodiversity' notions are applied CONSISTENTLY across the board, and put to the test? What happens to bold claims of virtue and goodness then? Let us ask:
1--White "role models" have produced the most vicious violence in human history, such as the mass murders of the Holocaust
You got it- supposedly more pure, more virtuous people on the "right" side of the Bell Curve. While making up only about one-third of the world's population, Europeans have perpetrated around 90% of the world's genocides. On a more routine violence tally, body count "parity" is not far behind as shown in the killing fields of Cambodia that "cleansed" about one-fourth of the country's population.Asiatics racked up a body count of 60 or so million murdered or starved by "the thought of Chairman Mao", as well as the older depredations of Ghengis Khan and his descendants in more ancient time. In the modern higher IQ era, cold climate Caucasoid "role model" Josef Stalin and followers posted an additional body count of 20 million or so, a shining example for all time by those allegedly possessing Derbyshire's "higher" sense of morality. In terms of the crime of genocide, assorted "biodiversity" and "racial reality" types attempt to avoid uncomfortable reality by claiming that genocide is not a crime. But in fact it is, and has been so recognized by almost every major Western nation and international law since 1948, under a conservative definition that specifically excludes mere political violence. It was European nations that established the definition. It is thus hilarious to see how European race proponents attempt to wriggle away from the bloody facts on the ground, perpetrated by Europeans, even allowing for the most conservative definition.
Herded into the gas chambers to be slaughtered, one Jewish survivor recounts the end of a mass murder gas session QUOTE:
"The people were still standing like columns of stone with no room to fall or lean. Even in death you could tell the families, all holding hands. It was difficult to separate them while emptying the room for the next batch. The bodies were tossed out, blue, wet with sweat and urine, the legs smeared with excrement and menstrual blood. Two dozen workers were busy checking mouths they opened with iron hooks.. dentists knocked out gold teeth, bridges and crowns with hammers." -- Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.8
Concerned to hide their monstrous crimes, but still turn a profit, the murder machinery decided to dig up slaughtered Jews in mass graves and burn their bodies, but before that, gold teeth and rings were to be extracted from the heads and fingers of the dead: QUOTE: ".. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a sitness recounted: 'The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be tryig to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.' " -- Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11
"He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victimes to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln's despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were 'correct' military-style executions of partisans. Himmler's goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS FIrst Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler's virulent legions that month." -- Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The Ss-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002
"I went out to the woods alone. The Wehrmacht had already dug a grave. The children were brought along in a tractor-drawn wagon. I had nothing to do with this technical procedure. The Ukrainians were standing round trembling. The children were taken down from the tractor. They were lined up along the top of the grave and shot so that they fell into it. The Ukrainians did not aim at any particular part of the body. They fell into the grave. The wailing was indescribable. I shall never forget the scene throughout my life. I find it very hard to bear. I particularly remember a small fair-haired girl who took me by the hand. She too was shot later.. The grave was near soome woods. IT was not near the firing range. The execution must have taken place in the afternoon at about three-thirty or four.. Many children were hit four or five times before they died." -- Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The Ss-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002 p. 135
2--WHite "role models" are leading the charge to redefine and destroy traditional marriage along homosexual lines.
It took people on the left side- the despised Black and Hispanic "NAMs", to preserve traditional marriage in California, USA. Whites were willing to undermine it, and continue to do so nationwide. Derbyshire and other HBDers are always lecturing black folk on monogamy, conveniently skirting the fact that whites themselves are fast undermining and destroying monogamy.
A related claim advanced by biodiversity proponents is the absence of monogamy among Africans until "outside" influences like European colonialism brought it. But this is nonsense. Polygamy was more common in Africa than in Europe, but monogamy also has a long history in Africa even before Africans were forciblly transported to the US, and before any significant influence from Europe. Of the 31 captives of the famous Amistad slave ship for example, 15 were married, and only 1 was polygamous, and monogamy is common in various parts of Africa. See <i>Slavery in North Carolina, 1748-1775. by Marvin L. Michael Kay, Lorin Lee Cary- pg 160.</i> Some HBDers also tout "Middle easterners" and Asians as "role models" on this score but in fact, Asia has had polygamy for a long time parallel with monogamy, along with things like multiple concubinage, practiced in China. And it was not until 1945 that polygamy was finally abolished in Japan.
And people like Jews practiced polygamy for centuries as documented in the Bible and anthropological studies. For Arabs and those who follow Islam, polygamy is permissible even today. Indeed while monogamy has been more dominant in Europe, polygamy has always been around until very recent times. Indeed, one of the things Christianity did for Europe was to stamp out and discourage polygamy. Ironically, there is also a long tradition of polygamy in white Christianity (see <i>After polygamy was made a sin: the social history of Christian polygamy- By John Cairncross</i>), and polygamy is documented as common in white Russia in various eras. Ironically Christianity itself, based on the religion of a Semitic people from the sub-tropical Middle East, not cold climate areas, was adopted in white Europe, and thus provided the "rules of morality" that helped suppress polygamy (among other things) by Europeans in many regions as Cairncross notes. In the modern era, the revolving door divorce cycle of many modern whites closely approaches patterns of polygamy.
Another related claim is of an era of idyllic white virtue and goodness during the 1970s, a temporary time of paradise, before disreputable "minorities" moved in to spoil things. Alas this claim too, in its many variants, both hard and soft, is bogus. The supposed "idyllic serenity" may have existed in SOME white areas, but within that haze of supposed sweetness and light, white America was rapidly degenerating in the 1970s, a continuation of trends from the 1960s, long before any real "integration" of the suburbs by blacks. White America saw rising divorce rates, rising drug use, rising out of wedlock births, rising feminism, rising homosexuality, etc. All this is well documented by historians in books such as Bruce J. Schulman's 2002 "The seventies: the great shift in American culture, society.." Furthermore the driving forces behind such changes were whites themselves. Black "militancy" or crime for example has little to do with why rising numbers of whites decided to divorce in the 1970s for example, hastening the breakdown of white family structure, whatever the psychic satisfactions of using the black "Other" as a convenient scapegoat. --------------------------------------------------------------
3--White "role models" lead in abortions and rape
ABORTION: Many HBDers would automatically point the finger at those perennial scapegoats - the black and brown "NAMs" but they carefully avoid the real story. The highest rates of abortion in the world are among white women in Russia, where 2 babies are killed for each live birth according to scholars Loveless and Holman (2006). The website below offers a similar dismal picture, showing that 60% or more of white Russian women have abortions. Derbyshire and his ilk are quick to trot out "genetic deficiency" explanations on this score where black folk are concerned, but hypocritically, start to hem and haw when their touted more virtuous whites post statistics even worse than blacks. You suddenly hear a mysterious silence then. They never consistently apply their own biased methods to whites, and say that white "genetic deficiencies" cause such outcomes. http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/may/06051003.html
RAPE
The highest incidence of rape in the modern world is perpetrated by white "role models". SOviet troops not only raped over two million German women, but also tens of thousands of SoVIET women who had been taken for slave labour by the Nazis. The white troops raped their own fellow citizens, who had just undergone suffering under the Nazis.
"Researchers of the Russian archives and German hospital archives gave an estimate of about one million German woman raped in Berlin and its surrounding areas, and two million German women in the eastern parts of Germany (Weidner 2008- Treibutgut des Krieges: Zeugnisse von Flucht und Vertreibung der Deutschen, Kassel: Volksbund Duetscher Kriegsgraeberfuersorg e.V.))." --FROM: The Will to Live 1010. By Erika Vora
"Beria and Stalin in Moscow knew perfectly well what was going on. In one report they were told that 'many Germans declare that all German women in East PRussia who stayed behind were raped by Red Army soldiers'. Numerous examples of gang rape were given - 'girls under eighteen and old women included'. In fact victims could be as young as twelve years old.'"
"..women and girls released from slave labout in Germany. Many of the girls were as young as sixteen when taken to the Reich; some were just fourteen. The widespread raping of women taken forcibly from the Soviet Union completely undermines any attempts at justifying Red Army behaviour on the grounds of revenge for German brutality in the Soviet Union. -- Antony Beevor. 2003. The Fall of Berlin: 945
In addition, during the era of slavery, tens of thousands of black women were brutally raped by whites. After slavery, sexual assaults by whites against black women continued, with black victims forbidden to testify against their attackers or intimidated into silence while white authorities collaborated with white rapists to look the other way. The brutal case of Recy Taylor, documented in the book At the Dark End of the Street, 2011, by Danielle McGuire - is typical of the conduct of white "role models" - actual physical rape to start, and later rape by an alleged "justice" system.
Tens of thousands of white on black rapes occurred prior to the FBI investigations and civil rights protections of the 1960s, according to author Danielle McGuire. The horrific gang rape of Recy Taylor which many white newspapers declined to even report, is merely one example of white "role models" at work. WHite law enforcement authorities knew who the attackers were based on Taylor's description, but avoided doing an official police lineup, ensuring that Taylor would not be able to point them out in open court.
The white authorities claimed they had the men on bond, "pending trial", but court records show that they issued bond after Taylor's hearing, backdating their supposed "arrest." An all-white jury declined to indict the attackers, who did not even bother to show up in court.
Meanwhile, the black victim's house was firebombed by whites because she reported the rape. A detailed analysis of the case is in At the Dark End of the Street, 2011, by Danielle McGuire
Historical data "Virtually every known nineteenth-century female slave narrative contains a reference to, at some juncture, the ever present threat and reality of rape. Thwo works come immediately to mind: Hariet Jacob's Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl (1861) and Elizabeth Jeckley's Behnd the Scenes or Thirdy Years a Slave (1868).." Beverly Guy-Sheftall. 1995. Words of Fire
"After the Civil Ear, the widespread rape of Black women by white men persisted. Black women were vulnerable to rape in several ways that white women were not. First the rape of Black women was used as a weapon of group terror by white mobs and by the Ku Klux Klan during Reconstruction. Second, because Black women worked outside the home, they were exposed to employers; sexual aggression as white women who worked inside the home were not... [One white judge said to a black victim] 'This court will never take the word of a nigger against the word of a white man.' -- Karen J. Maschke. 1997 The Legal Response to Violence Against Women
4--White "role models" lead in homosexuality, including its public celebration and embrace.
The allegedly more virtuous, "right" side of the Bell Curve folk. Some studies (Rogers and Turner 1991) report higher rates of homosexual activity among whites than blacks. Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) also find same sex attraction some 3 times higher in Whites than Blacks. Yet another study confirms white leadership in homosexuality. A National AIDS Behavioral Survey study (NABS), reported by Binson et al (1995) shows that 9.1% of white men, 3.1% of Black men, 2.7 percent of Hispanic men, and 2.3 percent of Asian/other had had same-sex action. In essence whites were 3 times more likely than blacks to be engaging in homosexual acts. Indeed, the NABS study oversampled Black and Hispanic men but still showed higher rates of white activity. In another study based on vascular risk factors Krieger and Sidney (1997) reported white women and men were more likely to have had homosexual or bisexual contact than either black men or black women. In essence whites were twice as likely to be engaged in homosexual behavior than blacks. Here again, the supposedly more virtuous, mo betta "right" side of the Bell Curve produces dismal "leadership" on the moral front.
"Heriditarian" types often use IQ scores to disparage the morality of putative lesser breeds, but such IQ scores show correlation with homosexuality, according to some research. Indeed according to some studies, homosexuals post higher IQs than straights. (John P. De Cecco, Michael G. Shively (1984) Bisexual and homosexual identities: critical theoretical issues. Routledge). Alan Soble (1997) Sex, love, and friendship: studies of the Society for the Philosophy of Sex. Rodopi. pp. 77) lists several studies attesting to higher homosexual IQs, with most of the subjects in said studies being white. (See also James Weinrich, (1976). Human Reproductive Strategy. HARVARD UNIVERSITY DISSERTATION.[/img] p. 203-15). Since IQ is so important in so many ways, including evolution, according to Derbyshire and assorted HBDers, a cynic using their logic might well argue that homosexuality represents another, "higher" step in white evolution. As noted above, there is some evidence that whites have higher rates of homosexual behavior and attraction than blacks. Hence, using heriditarian logic, homosexuality and the attendant higher IQs might represent an "evolutionary" advance of white people.
Northern European "role models" show extensive homosexual activity stretching back to ancient times as scholars note. Cold-climate Eastern Europeans not far behind. QUOTE:
"The fourth-century A.D. Roman writer Ammianus Marcellinus described homosexual relationships between youth and adult warriors among the Taifali, a Germanic tribe related to the Goths.. Marcellinus became familiar with the Taifali when he was posted as a soldier in the region. Their youth, Marcellinus write, remained in these homosexual relationships until they became adults and had killed a boar or bear, a typical initiatory ordeal. Similar homosexual customs were described by the Roman historian Procopius in the sixth century A.D. among another German tribe, the Heruli.. homosexuality in the form of institutionalized pederasty of the sort described by Ammianis Marcellinus and Procopius is understood to have been the rule within the Germanic warrior societies. Remarkably similar societies of unmarried warriors existed in Norse and Celtic society. The members of the Norse warrior societies also dedicated themselves to their god, Odin, dressed likewise in skins of wolves or bears and were said to fight with the furor f one possessed of the spirits of those animals.. Like the Germanic peoples, Celtic society was ruled by a warrior aristocracy supported by a farming peasantry.. While references by classical writers to homosexual relationship between Celtic warriors and youth are not detailed enough to be able to establish an initiatory construct, the pederastic relations that they described would almost certainly have occurred within the fianna, the principal social venue of the Celtic warriors. Indeed, given the close similarity of Celtic and Germanic tribal customs, and the well documented esteem of the Celts for male homosexuality, it would have been odd if the Celts did not practice a similar type of initiatory homosexuality.
The ancient writers leave no doubt as to the Celtic warriors; enthusiasm for homosexuality in general. According to Aristotle, the Celts held homosexuality in high esteem and publicly honored homosexual relations. Diodorus writes that despite the charm of Celtic women, the Celtic men: "long instead for the embrace of one of their own sex lying on animal skins and tumbling around with a lover on on either side. It is particularly surprising that they attach no value to either dignity or decency, offering their bodies to each other without further ado. This was not regarded as at all harmful: on the contrary, if they were rejected in their approaches, they felt insulted." Celtic youth evidently shared the attitudes of their elders. The Greek writer Strabo, described the young Celts of Gaul as "shamelessly generous with their boyish charms."
"..The lack if sexual inhibitions that the Celtic warriors displayed towards each other amid such an atmosphere of masculine eroticism suggests that homosexuality was not limited to pederastic relations, and that love between comrades was also a part of Celtic warrior life. In fact, it is warriors, not youth, whom Diodorus describes as "offering their bodies to each other without further ado." Such a relationship between warrior peers even appears in an Irish Celtic saga of the late first millennium." [ENDQUOTE]> --Neill, James (2009). The origins and role of same-sex relations in human societies. Mcfarland: pp 120-131
Data on other ancient 'Caucasoid' peoples, supposed Indo-European "role models," reveals a unified pattern of homosexual behavior.
In ancient Greece homosexuality played an important role. QUOTE: "While little is known of the sexual practices of the Kassites, Hyksos or Aryans, that is not the case with the Greeks. The extent of the prevalence and social importance of homosexual behavior among the ancient Greeks is so thoroughly documented that it is possible to get a clear picture not only of the character of homosexual relationships in Greeks society, but the important role homosexuality played in that society.. the fragmentary glimpses we have of homosexual behavior among the other Indo-European peoples can be recognized as revealing a unified pattern of sexual customs and beliefs that seems to have prevailed among all the Indo-European ancestors of modern Europeans." --Neill, James (2009). The origins and role of same-sex relations in human societies. Mcfarland:
Pedophilia and homosexuality was common among the Spartans. Wives and male lovers were shared between Spartan men. Pederasty or use of youth for homosexual purposes was well established among the Spartans, Greeks and Cretans.
[quotes from various scholars:] "..young boys between the ages of 6 and 16 were organized in 'packs' and 'herds' and placed under the supervision of young adult Spartans. This supervision was sometimes seen as surrogate fathering and one marker of its activity ".. was the instutionalization of pederasty. After the age of twelve, each Spartan teenager was expected to receive a young adult warrior as his lover.. Punishment for various infractions such as suffering silently under discipline was sometimes made on the youth's older lover, for having failed to educate his beloved properly."> --From: The Spartans: the world of the warrior-heroes of ancient Greece, from utopia to crisis and collapse Paul Cartledge, Overlook Press, 2003.pg 69-70
"Aspects of Spartan society conduced less to heterosexuality than to homosexuality. In his Laws, Plato wrote that homosexuality resulted from the (male) dining groups and from male nudity in gymnasia. Records of Sparta from the classical period seem to refer to homosexual boyfriends at least as often as to wives. particularly revealing, are some assertions by Xenophon on this subject." > --From: Sparta By Michael Whitby. 2002. Taylor and Francis: p. 93
"Sparta too institutionalized homosexual relations between mature men and adolescent boys, as well as between adult women and girls.. many aspects of Spartan homosexuality and marriage customs point to tribal origins. Participation was mandatory for all youth of good character. There were ordeals- a common feature of tribal initiation.. Even after marriage, men lived in men's houses, not with their wives. Wives and male lovers were shared with age-mates." > ---From: The construction of homosexuality. David F. Greenberg. University of Chicago Press. 1990. p.107 --------------------------
Both homosexuality and pedophilia were institutionalized among the Greeks per scholars: [quotes from various scholars:] FROM: Homosexuality in the ancient world - Page 80. Wayne R. Dynes, Stephen Donaldson - 1992 -
quotes from Dynes and Donaldson: "In short, I have no doubt that the evidence of Xenophon and Plutarch is sufficient to establish the important conclusion that pederasty in Sparta was institutionalised." In the "Politics of Spartan Pederasty" in Homosexuality in the ancient world, pg 23, various documentation from the Spartan era ranges from rock- cut graffiti, to bronze figurines of decidedly masculine "girls", to depictions of anal copulation on drinking cups, to terracotta votive masks depicting unbearded 'Youth' and bearded adult 'Warriors' found in the sanctuary at Orthia.".>
Some historian argue that Greek homosexual activity had ritual significance in the form of the semen, being an agent representing martial excellence or prowess, imparted to the receiving male in the process of sodomy. The venue of the gymnasium also played a part.
quotes from Dynes and Donaldson: "Next there is the point insisted upon by Plato's Athenian Laws (1.636b; cg. Theaer. 162b, 169ab), the role played by the gymnasia as hotbeds of homosexuality. The Spartans put a premium on gymnastic exercise, and if Thucydides (1.6.5) is to be believed, it was they who invented the customs of exercising stark naked and rubbing down with olive oil. In Sparta therefore the cult of the nude male body is likely to have been pushed to the extremes, as it is known to have been in other less gymnastic Greek cities.. None of these conditions favoring homosexuality is wholly peculiar to Spartan society, but their presence in combination suggests that the integration of institutionalised pederasty into the Agoge, whenever precisely it occurred, will at any rate, not have been awkward."> pg 27
Yet others argue that the ties created by pederasty extended to the networks of influence and governance. "Pederasty, in other words, could have acted at Spartan in the age of Xenophon, as it certainly did in fourth-century Crete, as a means of recruiting the political elite,"> ---------------
Young females were also used in Spartan society as part of homosexual relations. Quote: "Plutarch relates that in Sparta, the noble women loved the girls. Also the academic philosopher Hagnon states: "Among the Spartans it was customary (viz for adult women) to have intercourse with girls before their marriage, as one did with boys."> pg 292
Homosexuality was commonly recognized and accepted in Greece, and suggest a common pattern among Indo-European peoples. As one historian notes: "One of the intriguing features of the Greeks is their active interest in homosexuality... Yet the adherents of this solution [a ritual of initiation] have not attempted an explanation pf this puzzling phenomenon and they have ignored the existence of Indo-European (henceforth: I-E) parallels." pg 49
pg 50: "The bachelors had recourse to sodomy, a practice which was not reprobated but was actually a custom of the country- and a custom in the true sense, i.e., fully sanctioned by male society and universally practised.">
Some ancient Greek scholars held that the Persians learned homosexuality from the Greeks ".. we pass straight on to the Persians. Our sources are divided as to whether they practiced pederasty or not. The latter view will be the more probably one, since the Zoroastrian writings tome and again strongly forbade pederasty. It is perhaps indicative for this attitude that Agesilaos, although strongly in love with the son of high-ranking Persian, refrains from any physical contact. On the other hand, the son of Pharnabazus is enamoured of a Greek boy, and the recurrence of the prohibitions of pederasty suggests that the Persians did not succeed in stopping the practice. Such discrepancy between theory and practice could elucidate the remark of Herodotus that the Persians learned pederasty from the Greeks."> pg 282
Quotes from: Homosexuality in the ancient world - Page 80. Wayne R. Dynes, Stephen Donaldson-1992 -
Historian Charles Freeman's "The Greek Achievement" (1999) holds that homosexuality had an influential place in some Greek institutions. According to Freeman: [quote] ".. "The symposia provided the arena for much of this sexual activity. These were highly ritualized affairs whose origins lay in the banqueting halls of aristocratic warriors. The men were garlanded and reclined one or two to a couch around a central table.. there is little evidence that symposia were normally used to discuss politics. Rather the opposite; the longest conversation in Plato's Symposium is about the nature of homosexual love." > (Freeman: pg 299, pg 283-304)
Other writers find similar patterns: "Male homosexuality was also a prominent feature of Classical Athens. It was widely practiced and tolerated. Athenian law disenfranchised a citizen who had prostituted his body to another male, but nothing was done to males who engaged in homosexual love with male prostitutes or other adult males for love or pleasure. The law did not eliminated male prostitution but ensured that male prostitutes would be foreigners, not Athenian citizens." > -- Western Civilization: To 1500, Volume 1. Jackson J. Spielvogel. 2009. Cenage.
Note: ALL cultures have gay individuals and relationships, and some cultures worked out practical "live and let live" arrangements for them, yet some "hereditarian" and "Aryan" types applaud Nazi attempts to kill gays as a way of "purging" the race. They deny the existence of gays in ancient Europe, except as an anomaly brought about by corrupt "Semitic" influences. As the above examples show however, the actual truth is far different. --------------------------------------------------------------
5--White "role models" lead in high rates of child molestation
Whites post higher rates of child molestation than other groups according to scholars Hattery and Smith 2007, depending on the baselines measured, and said white child molesters serve LESS time for their crimes than black crack cocaine offenders, according to some studies. QUOTE:
'Furthermore, our analysis suggests that child molesters, who are primarily white men, serve shorter average sentences than crack offenders who are primarily African American men. Child molesters serve an average of 6 years and only 43% of their full sentences, whereas the average inmate serving a sentence for possession of crack serves 11 years and 80% of his or her sentence." --(African American families, by Angela Hattery, Earl Smith, SAGE 2007. pp. 245) ---
and as one conservative police chief report states:
"Criminal profiling has a legitimate and successful history when applied to serial killers, rapists, hijackers, child molesters and arsonists. Ironically, some criminal profiles show a racial relationship between white males and serial killers, rapists, and child molesters." (-- Carl Milazzo (1999) Race Relations in Police Operations: A Legal and Ethical Perspective. International Assn. of Chiefs of Police) ---
The police chief profiling report mentions several offenses, but when broken out separately, a pattern emerges of whites as over-represented among child molesters. Kirk (1975) found that black offenders were more likely to pick out adult females for sexual assault at a rate three times more than white offenders (34% and 11% respectively), compared to white offenders who selected non-adults more. Kirk's finding is supported by West and Templer's 1994 study of incarcerated sex offenders, which found that a disproportionate number of child molesters were white, compared to negro offenders. (Kirk, S.A. (1975). The sex offenses of blacks and whites. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 4, 295-302) (West, J and Templer D. (1994). Child molestation, rape and ethnicity. Psychological Reports, 75, 1326) ------
The heavy white pattern varies by state. For example, a 1998 study in Florida was carried out on molesters over a 21 month period. Of these 88.4% were white, versus 7.9% black. Around 1998, Florida's populations stood at 78% white, and 14.6% black (Bureau of the Census 2000). Whites were thus overrepresented among the child molesters relative to general population, (88% molesters versus 78% general population) versus blacks who were underrepresented 7.9% versus 14.6%) on molestation offenses. -- Tingle, et al (1998) Childhood and Adolescent Characteristics of Pedophiles and Rapists.
An alternative point of comparison is to compare criminals to criminals - those actually in jail for crime - rather than non-offending persons in the general population. In the 1990s in Florida, whites made up less than 50% of the prison population.* Based on such patterns, whites are thus overrepresented as a proportion of those in jail. The same pattern repeats itself nationally. (*Data Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 1995 - State detail.) ----
"According to the Survey of Inmates of State Correctional Facilities by the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, the following statistics have been recorded concerning the characteristics of offenders who violate and assault children.[/img]
* Those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more likely to have been white, a percentage of nearly 70%, than any other race. * White inmates were nearly three times more likely to have victimized a child than black inmates." ------
Detailed data from Federal prison statistical reports also show the same pattern. Under the "Other sexual Assault" category, which is primarily child molestation, whites were six times more likely to go to state prison than Blacks and twice as likely to go to prison for such offenses than Hispanics. Under the category "Parole violators returned to State prison" whites were twice as likely to be returned to prison for the sexual offences than blacks. --Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics. National Corrections Reporting Program, 1994. NCRP9404 - New court commitments to State prison, 1994: Offense by sex, race and Hispanic origin NCRP9405. Parole violators returned to State prison, 1994: Offense, by sex, race, and Hispanic origin
And in 1994 the white prison population was less than 50%, (48,21% per the Federal Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics- 1990) and yet whites made up 77% of all child molesters in prison, almost 30 percent more than their representation in the general prison population. Whites are thus overrepresented as child molesters in proportion to their incarceration rate.
Numerous "HBD" statistics do comparisons to "the general population" - but why always make comparisons to a pool that includes innocent 86 year old grandmothers, pregnant 24-year olds, or 3-year old children? Another equally valid alternative comparison is to compare criminals to criminals- and run the statistics that way. We are talking crime- hence let's run comparisons among the criminal population as well. Hence the 1994 data, and some of the other data above for incarcerated persons shows some interesting patterns that are carefully dodged and avoided by assorted "biodiversity" types.
In summary, while child molestation occurs in all ethnicities, available data show that higher IQ folk display unimpressive moral "leadership" on this score.
Note: No ethnic group is exempt from the above but "biodiversity" proponents continually tout cold climate and or northern European peoples, cold climate eastern Europeans and Asiatics as sterling evolutionary role models, superior in virtue to lesser breeds. A close examination of the actual data yields a much less flattering reality.
6-- White "role models" lead in divorce rates nationally. Within the top 10 of countries with the highest divorce rates in the world, most are reportedly high IQ Western nations- such as the US, Russia, the UK, Denmark, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Finland. Note the pattern, the bulk of the high divorce countries are the higher IQ ones. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorc e-rate
7- White "role models" often presume to lecture others on sexual morality but their own conduct in such areas as out-of-wedlock births is rather unimpressive.
It is a fact that for decades prior to the 1960s, black folk in the US posted higher marriage rates and lower divorce rates than whites. Furthermore white OOW rates are hardly sterling. Among the supposedly more virtuous northern Europeans for example, like the white Irish, the OOW rate in some decades of the 19th century exceeded 50% in heavily Irish areas of settlement in cities like NYC, even though the Irish made up less than 26% of the population at the time (Sowell 1981, 1983).
Supposedly virtuous white "Nordic" Europeans are no better. In the 1850s, in Sweden's biggest city, Stockholm, for example, the illegitimacy rate was close to 50%. As Burns and Scott (1994) show, by the mid 19th century when reliable cross-national figures are widely available, it was found than in illegitimacy, (Stockholm (with a 46% rate in the 1850s) was second only to Vienna (49%) among European capitals. Indeed this trend was a continuation since the early 1800s. Nor was this solely a pattern for mid century 1800s. In ultra-white Sweden at the start of the 20th century, barely half of Swedish women married and around one-sixth of children were born out of wedlock. Nor was this solely an urban Stockholm phenomenon. High illegitimacy rates and declining marriage rates were also found in rural areas as well (A companion to nineteenth-century Europe, 1789-1914, By Stefan Berger, Wiley 2006.) By contrast, as late as 1950 the US black illegitimacy rate stood at 17%, well below that of the touted white Swedish "role models" above, and for 50 years, black marriage rates were higher than that of US whites (Sowell 2004- Black Rednecks, White Liberals), and better than the Swedish pattern over several decades. The black illegitimacy rate in 1965 was STILL lower than the 28% posted by US whites in 2000.
Closer into the 20th century, white Nordic "role models" are no paragons of virtue: By the year 2000, out of wedlock births in Nordic Sweden had reached 53% of all births- a steep rise from a mere 10% illegitimacy rate in mid century. (A population history of the United States By Herbert S. Klein, Cambridge University Press. 2004. p. 216) Nor are supposedly more virtuous white people of other "Nordic" nations any better. In the early 1980s illegitimacy rates were on the order of 45% in Iceland and Sweden and 40% in Denmark. (Report on Immigrant populations and demographic development in the member states of the Council of Europe. Rinus Penninx, Council of Europe. 1984.)
8-- The record of white "role models" is much less than advertised re allegedly superior virtue when scrutiny is applied. Indeed some of the supposed paragons of Bell Curve goodness, northern Europeans, have a dubious record in terms of reputed virtue and morality.
Let us begin by looking at white Southerners in the USA- and let's give assorted "biodiversity" proponents the benefit of the doubt by not using "liberal" scholars- let's stick with conservative ones. What happens when even conservative scholars like Thomas Sowell look at the data? We see that native white southerners historically are among the most backward and violent people in the American population. According to Sowell, in his 2005 Black Rednecks and White Liberals, what many see as pathologies of contemporary black culture actually derive from a dysfunctional historical white-southern “cracker” culture. "The cultural values and social patterns prevalent among Southern whites included an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship, reckless searches for excitement, a lively music and dance, and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery. This oratorical style carried over into the political oratory of the region in both the Jim Crow era and the civil rights era, and has continued on into our own times among black politicians, preachers, and activists. Touchy pride, vanity, and boastful self- dramatization were also part of this redneck culture among people from regions of Britain where the civilization was the least developed.[25]" ------------- Several scholars support Sowell’s observations. Grady McWhiney’s Cracker Culture (1988) is a thorough historical study of the values and behavioral patterns of white Southerners, and is backed by many other scholarly studies which have turned up very similar patterns even when they differed in some ways as to the causes. Scholar Hackett Fischer’s Albions Seed,(1989) for example, eschews the Celtic theory advanced by McWhiney, but shows many of the same cultural patterns for the whites, both in Britain and the American South.[26]
Nor can "evil papists" be blamed. Most whites who settled the south were Protestants. Now let's look at another northern European people- whom all are supposed to hail as paragons of cold-climate virtue - the white Irish. The Irish have long been marked by high levels of violence, substance abuse, promiscuity, anti- intellectualism, etc. In rural Ireland before mass immigration to America, for example, sexual morality was relatively conservative. However once the Irish peasantry hit the crowded, fetid slums and streets of big cities such as New York or Boston, this traditional rural conservatism began to break down, In New York for example, some decades of the 19th century show white Irish illegitimacy rates as high as 50% even though the Irish made up less than 26% of the city's population. Likewise in the 1850s around 50% of the people arrested daily were white Irish even though they made up less that 26% of the city's population. (Sowell 1981). Likewise the fallout of the Industrial Revolution in white Britain included horrific poverty, dismal slums and widespread violence as the rural peasantry migrated to the dismal venues of the city.
As far as violence, one history notes: "The New York Draft Riot has gone down in history as one of the nation's bloodiest urban riots. Moreover, the behavior of the Irish during these fateful days and the racism they exhibited reinforced their reputation for violence."(Dolan, JP, The Irish Americans: A History. p. 49) On some measures of social propriety, the Irish were no paragons. One survey of prostitutes in the 1800s in heavily Irish NYC for example "revealed that 35 percent were Irish and 12 percent German." The Irish also posted higher rates of female-headed families than other ethnic groups in the same time period. (Binder, F, and Reimers D. (1996) All the Nations Under Heaven: An Ethnic and Racial History of New York City. Columbia University Press.)
Much is made of comparisons to blacks and assorted European immigrants, but as the example of the Irish shows, blacks are not some unique, basket case. They suffered and show the the same patterns that often accompany rural people being urbanized. As anyone who has a basic knowledge of black history knows, WWII was to spark major changes and population movements in Black America. The MAJORITY of Blacks became an urban people, in contrast to the majority rural volk of previous decades. As becoming urbanized, blacks fell prey to a common pattern that often afflicts 'country' people who are squeezed into the crowded slums, violent streets and indifferent attitudes of cities - there is greater social dysfunction as the old rural community bonds begin to break down. It happened with whites from and in Ireland and Britain. It happened with Chinese in the over-packed slums of numerous Chinatowns. It happened with a host of other people in varying measures. But according to HBD "experts", black people are these unique basket cases as far as such problems go. Only they are permanently affected by such horrible dysfunctions, you see, because they are black. Never mind the white people who have gone before, and who underwent the same pattern. They are exempt, and covered with a magical mantle of alleged white goodness and virtue.
Scholar Thomas Sowell (1981, 2004, 1983) notes that many problems identified with blacks in modern society are hardly unique in terms of American ethnic groups, nor in terms of a rural proletariat swept by disruption as it became urbanized.
Heavy patterns of pathology are for example seen in the white peasant migrants to the dismal urban slums that sprung up during the Industrial Revolution in Britain and elsewhere. He maintains that US blacks only became a largely urban people after WWII, when the booming war economy accelerated a third great migration north, allowing millions of blacks to escape the harsh, oppressive conditions of the South. While southern cities also saw some migration, it was this massive wartime era move north that was much more significant, and the arrival of the rural black proletariat into difficult urban conditions broke down many of the social mores and community-generated controls, such as church influence, that had helped maintain its stability in the past. World War I also saw a spurt of urban migration in response to economic demand, but this urbanization was not completed for most blacks until the WWII era. A recent work by Ira Berlin (2010) entitled "The making of African America: the four great migrations" (Viking: 2010) confirms Sowell's data, showing that full, majority black urbanization was accomplished only after the WW II era, making blacks relatively recent mass entrants into urban economies that ite ethnics had long since operated in. The black urban migrants faced massive discrimination above others, but also social dislocation, with corresponding social problems.
Sowell (1981 - Ethnic America- see below) notes that social problems occurring after such migrations are nothing new with other white ethnic groups, who had the advantage of entering, acculturating and adjusting to the urban economy in toto several decades earlier than blacks. The black migrants faced race discrimination above and beyond other ethnic groups, but fundamentally experienced the same social pathologies others did in becoming urbanized.
Difficulties with crime, schooling, substance abuse etc. are thus not uniquely "black" problems but are well represented in other urbanizing groups from peasant background. In Ethnic America (1981), for example, Sowell shows that white ethnic groups like the Irish were marked by many of the same patterns as blacks who migrated from rural backgrounds to the big urban centers, including high levels of violence and substance abuse. As regards out-of-wedlock births, the rate in some New York areas with heavy white Irish settlement was over 50%, comparable to what would develop in later black ghettos in the same city.[50] Sowell sums of some of these claims in his Pink and Brown People and Other Controversial Essays (1981), warning against what he calls the fallacy of presentism:
"Those who cannot swallow pseudo-biology can turn to pseudo-history as the basis for classification. Unique cultural characteristics are now supposed to neatly divide the population. In this more modern version, the ghetto today is a unique social phenomenon.. American ghettos have always had crime, violence, overcrowding, filth, drunkenness, bad school teaching, and worse learning. Nor are blacks historically unique even in the degree of these things. Crime and violence were much worse in the nineteenth-century slums, which were almost all white. The murder rate in Boston in the middle of the nineteenth century was about three times what it was in the middle of the twentieth century. All the black riots of the 1960s put together did not kill half as many people as were killed in one white riot in 1863.. Squalor, dirt, disease? Historically, blacks are neither the first nor last in any of these categories. There were far more immigrants packed into the slums (per room or per square mile) than is the case with blacks today - not to mention the ten thousand to thirty thousand children with no home at all in the nineteenth-century New York...
Even in the area where many people get most emotional- educational and IQ test results- blacks are doing nothing that various European minorities did not do before them. As of about 1920, any number of European ethnic groups had I.Q.'s the same or lower than the I.Q.'s of blacks today. As recently as 1940, there were schools on the Lower East Side of New York with academic performances lower than those of schools in Harlem. Much of the paranoia that we talk ourselves into about race is a result of provincialism about our own time as compared to other periods in history."
NOTES: Sowell, T, 1981. Ethnic America Sowell T. 2005, Black Rednecks, White liberals Sowell T. 1983. The Economics and Politics of Race Sowell T. 2004. Affirmative Action around the world Berlin, I. 2010. The making of African America: the four great migrations
Northern European groups also show high rates of violence, criminality, substance abuse and welfare dependency as conservative scholar Thomas Sowell notes. [QUOTE:]
"Such living patterns reflected not only the poverty of the Irish but also their being used to squalid living conditions in mud huts in Ireland... Sewage piled up in backyard privies until the municipal authorities chose to collect it, or else it ran off in open trenches, fouling the air and providing breeding grounds for dangerous diseases. The importance of proper garbage disposal, to keep the neighborhood from being overrun with rats, was one of many similar facts of urban life that every rural group new to the city would have to learn over the years, beginning with the Irish, and continuing through many others until the present day. Cholera, which had been unknown before, swept through Boston in 1849, concentrated almost exclusively in Irish neighborhoods. In New York, cholera was also disproportionately observed in Irish wards. In various cities, both tuberculosis and fire swept regularly through the overcrowded tenements where the Irish lived, and there was a high rate of insanity among the Irish immigrants.. The incidence of tuberculosis in Boston varied closely with the proportion of the Irish living in a neighborhood.
Patterns of alcoholism and fighting brought over from Ireland persisted in the United States. Over half the people arrested in New York in the 1850s were Irish.. Police vans became known as 'Paddy wagons" because the prisoners in them were so often Irish. "The fighting Irish" was a phrase that covered everything from individual brawls to mass melees (known as "Donnybrooks" for a town in Ireland) to criminal gangs.. Irish neighborhoods were tough neighborhoods in cities around the country. The Irish Sixth Ward in New York was known as "the bloody ould Sixth." Another Irish Neighborhood in New York was known as "Hell's Kitchen," and another as 'San Juan Hill" because of the battles fought there. In Milwaukee, the Irish section was called the "Bloody Third".. Where the Irish workers built the Illinois Central Railroad, people spoke of "a murder a mile" as they laid track. The largest riot in American history was by predominantly Irish rioters in New York in 1863..
Even the proportion of the black population who were laborers and house servants in Boston in 1850 was much lower than among the Irish, and the free blacks in mid- century Boston were in general economically better off than the Irish. The Irish-women's work as domestic servants and washerwomen was usually more steadily available than that of Irishmen- a situation later to be repeated among blacks.
As in Ireland itself, the poverty and improvidence of the Irish immigrants to America often reduced them to living on charity when hard times came. In early nineteenth-century Ireland, even before the famine, it was common for whole families of the poor to go 'tramping about it for months, bragging from parish to parish.' Recourse to public charity was a well-established habit carried over to America. Expenditures for relief to the poor in Boston more than doubled from 1845 to 1855, during the heavy influx of the Irish, after such expenditures had been relatively stable for years. In New York City in the same era, about 60 percent of the people in almshouses had been born in Ireland. As late as 1906, there were more Irish than Italian paupers, beggars and inmates of almshouses, even though the Italians arrived a generation later and were generally poorer at the turn of the century. radically different attitudes toward accepting charity existed in Ireland and Italy, and these attitudes apparently had more effect than their respective objective economic conditions in America. There were similar cultural differences in attitudes toward the abandonment of wives and children. In the 1840s, 'it was almost automatically assumed than an orphan was Irish," and as late as 1914, about half the Irish families on Manhattan's west side were fatherless. No such pattern appeared among the Italians.
Although the Irish immigrants (like other immigrants) had a disproportionate representation of young people in the prime of life, the mortality rate shot up after their arrival. Boston's mortality rate in 1850 was double that of the rest of Massachusetts, even though there were relatively fewer aged people in Boston. The difference was due to the extremely high mortality rate in the Irish neighborhoods. Diseases that had become rare in America now flourished again. In 1849, cholera spread through Philadelphia to New York and to Boston- primarily in Irish neighborhoods. There had not been a smallpox epidemic in Boston since 1792, but after 1845, it became a recurring plague, again primarily among the Irish. The spread of the Irish into other neighborhoods, mean, among other things, the spread of these and other diseases. The residential flight of middle-class Americans from the Irish immigrants was by no means all irrationality...
Today's neighborhood changes have been dramatized by such expressions was 'white flight' but these patterns existed long before black-white neighborhood changes were the issue. When the nineteenth-century Irish immigrants flooded into New York and Boston, the native Americans fled. With the first appearance of an Irish family in a neighborhood, 'the exodus of non-Irish residents began. 'White flight' is a misleading term, not only because of its historical narrowness, but also because blacks too have fled when circumstances were reversed. Blacks fled a whole series of neighborhoods in nineteenth-century New York, 'pursued' by new Italian immigrants who moved in. The first blacks in Harlem were fleeing from the tough Irish neighborhoods in mid-Manhattan, and avoided going north of 145th Street for fear of encountering more Irish there." [ENDQUOTE]> --FROM: Sowell, T. (1981). Ethnic America
9- White "role models" historically lead in the murder of children- infanticide..
Scholarly works such as Milner 2000 (Milner, Larry S. (2000). Hardness of Heart / Hardness of Life: The Stain of Human Infanticide') and many others give many of the gory details of the activities of these allegedly virtuous "role models." Asian societies like China for example historically carried out massive amounts of sex selective infanticide. In "Caucasoid" India, female infanticide of newborn girls was systematic in many areas, including tossing children into the Ganges River as a sacrificial offering. Among supposedly more moral and virtuous Caucasoid Europeans, killing of children was common. In ancient Sardinia, three thousand bones of young children, with evidence of sacrificial rituals, have been found there. Among supposedly more virtuous Caucasoid stocks in Southwest Asia or the "Middle East", child sacrifices to their goddess Ishtar was routine, and among some Caucasoid tribes of what is now Greece, every 10th child was killed as sacrifice in difficult economic times. In Caucasoid Carthage, child sacrifice according to Milner, "reached its infamous zenith," with infants and young children burned in fire or roasted alive in hot bronze. One archeological excavations yielded 20,000 charred remains of young children (packed in urns). The Bible mentions such sacrifice among the Caucasoid Phoenicians at a site called Topeth. (Brown, Shelby (1991). Late Carthaginian Child Sacrifice and Sacrificial Monuments in their Mediterranean Context.)
In "Caucasoid" Greece, the exposure of unwanted newborns was not uncommon, especially among the noble Spartans. In Caucasoid Rome, infanticide was common, despite laws on the books. Indeed Philo the Philosopher speaks out against it, noting the casual nature with which it was carried out by the Romans. Offenders were rarely prosecuted under Roman law, and said law allowed killing of Caucasoid newborns if they were visibly deformed. (Naphtali, Lewis, ed (1985). "Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 744". Life in Egypt Under Roman Rule). Indeed Rome was founded by near victims of infanticide- the legendary Romulus and Remus. Among the ancient Caucasoid Germanic tribes, the practice was not unknown, and unwanted children were liquidated in the forests. Archeological data shows the burnt bones of children, disposed of as child sacrifice in ancient Britain. (Boswell, John (1988). The Kindness of Strangers. NY: Vintage Books).
In "Caucasoid" Europe of the Middle Ages, one scholar (Langer 2000) notes that infanticide "was practiced on gigantic scale with absolute impunity, noticed by writers with most frigid indifference". At the end of the 12th century, notes Richard Trexler, Roman women threw their newborns into the Tiber river in daylight. (Langer, William L. (1974). "Infanticide: a historical survey". History of Childhood Quarterly 1 (3): 353–366. -- Trexler, Richard (1973). "Infanticide in Florence: new sources and first results". History of Childhood quarterly 1: 99.)
In Caucasoid Russia child sacrifice was offered to the pagan god Perun, who was worshipped as the god of lightning and thunder, and in Kamchatka, children were tossed to dogs to be eaten alive. (Russia in the era of NEP: explorations in Soviet society and culture - Page 201. 1991. Sheila Fitzpatrick, Alexander Rabinowitch, Richard Stites)
By contrast with the supposedly more virtuous and moral Caucasoids and Asiatics above, Africa has the lowest incidence of infanticide. As scholar Milner notes: QUOTE:
"Africa has been reported to have a lower incidence of infanticide than all of the other continents." --Milner, L.S. (2000). Hardness of Heart / Hardness of Life: the stain of infanticide. University Press. p. 160
Infanticide did occur in Africa but to a MUCH LOWER extent that allegedly more virtuous cold Caucasoid or Asiatic “role models.” Ancient Egypt, which was fundamentally populated by peoples with tropical limb proportions from south of the Sahara, is no exception (Zakrewski 2007, Keita 1992, 2005, 2008, Raxter and Ruff 2008 et al). In Egyptian households, at all social levels, children of both sexes were valued and there is no evidence of infanticide.[14] The religion of the Ancient Egyptians forbade infanticide and during the Greco-Roman period they rescued abandoned babies from manure heaps, a common method of infanticide by Greeks or Romans, and were allowed to either adopt them as foundlings or raise them as slaves, often giving them names such as "copro -" to memorialise their rescue.[15] Strabo considered it a peculiarity of the Egyptians that every child must be reared.[16] Diodorus indicates infanticide was a punishable offence.[17]
Notes: 14- "Egypt and the Egyptians", Emily Teeter, p. 97, Cambridge University Press, 1999, 15- "Eroticism and Infanticide at Ashkelon", Lawrence E. Stager, Biblical Archaeology Review, July/Aug 1991 16- "Folkways: A Study of Mores, Manners, Customs and Morals", W Sumner, p. 318, Cosmo 2007, 17- "Life in Ancient Egypt", Adolf Erman, Trans H. M. Tirard, p. 141, pub 1894, repub Kessinger 2003, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
10- WHite "role models" lead in producing child pornography, with biggest production by the supposedly more virtuous cold climate peoples of northern and eastern Europe, with Asiatics not far behind. Most child pornography is produced by whites, including more disturbing explicit and violent child pornography
A 2010 UN study found that 85% of all child pornography is produced in cold climate regions of Europe. This confirms older analyses by US Customs which found the bulk of child pornography originating in Europe, with Germany being one of the prominent leaders. Studies in the 2000s point to an increasing growth trend of more explicit child pornography.[/b] [QUOTE]: "Amateur pornography produced in Mexico, Philippines and Brazil has been detected but clearly these sources do not predominate... 90% of the commercial child pornography comes from "Eastern Bloc" countries in Europe, and that as a location, Eastern Europe appears to be key to be the organization of the trade." > -- Globalization of Crime: A Transnational Organized Crime Threat Assessment . United Nations Office on Drus and Crime, Geneva: 2010[/i]
One US study in the 1980s found that [quote] "According to the US Customs Service, "the traditional source countries are; Sweden, Dennmark and the Netherlands. France, Japan, Thailand, and the Philippines are considered new sources." and "85% of all imported child pornography seized by Customs originated in The Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden. Acccording to INTERPOL, Germany was the major producer, The Netherlands and the United Kingdom were the major distribution centers, and the United States was the largest market. "
-- Dept of the Treasury, US Customs Service, Child Pornography and Protection Unit, 1984: In The sexual exploitation of children (1999) Seth L. Goldstein. CRC Press[/i]
A new more disturbing growth in child pornography fueled by white eastern Europeans: - [QUOTE] "the emergence of more explicit child pornography from Eastern Europe, access to which involves payment, seem to represent a new and disturbing growth in cmmerical exploitation of the market for child pornography." > --Child pornography: an Internet crime. By Maxwell Taylor, Ethel Quayle. Pyshcology Press, 2003
Note: No ethnic group is exempt from evil, but "biodiversity" proponents continually tout cold climate and or northern European peoples, cold climate eastern Europeans, and cold-climate Asiatics as sterling evolutionary role models, superior in virtue to lesser breeds. A close examination of the actual data yields a much less flattering reality. ============================================= ================================
In sum, HBD, "biodiversity" and "hereditarian" types like to lecture others about the supposedly more virtuous folk on the right hand side of the Bell Curve, but in fact, said allegedly more virtuous "role models" are themselves leaders, and extreme practitioners in many of the most degrading examples of human corruption, filth, dissolution, and violence.
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NOW LET'S MOVE FARTHER BACK INTO THE MISTS OF TIME WHEN SUPPOSEDLY, SUPERIOR CAUCASOID VIRTUE "EVOLVED" DUE TO VARIOUS ALLEGED "CHALLENGES." AS WE SHALL SEE, SUCH CLAIMS ARE MOSTLY SELF-FLATTERING RUBBISH.
Another plank of 'biodiversity' proponents' is that cold-climate peoples lived in 'harsh' environments and this developed higher IQs and superior morality. Alas, an examination of their evidence reveals that the alleged cold-climate environmental "deprivation" of ancient cold-adapted Europeans is dubious. If anything the environment was often favorable, with reliable and predictable food and material resources. Despite this however cold-climate Europeans never pioneered plant or animal domestication even though the species to do this were in place, along with the favorable East-West climatic axis they enjoyed. Indeed, a long tradition of certain scholarship, continuing even today, suggests that some cold-adapted peoples were passive, reaching cultural and even genetic dead-ends.
Quote 1- alleged "harsh" ancient European environment is bogus- conditions were actually favorable in many respects:
"About 35,000 years ago, modern human populations apparently entered Western Europe for the first time and found what one pre-historian has described as 'a virtual Garden of Eden.' Southwest France and northern Spain formed a rich environmental mosaic that supported a profusion of animal and plant life. The diversity of animal life is r eflected in carvings and cave paintings of the Upper Paleolithic Period, spanning from 35,000 to 10,000 years ago. at various times, mammoth, rhinoceros, bison, wild horses, wild oxen, red deer, reindeer, ibex and many other species abounded... the Upper Paleolithic people of Western Europe probably enjoyed a greater degree of social-complexity than is projected by the simplistic hunter-gatherer model. They had a rich diversity of resources, and a high degree of stability and predictability of these resources year to year." -- Lewin, Roger (1988). In the Age of Mankind. Smithsonian. pp. 196-199
Quote 2- Famous Lascaux area of pre-historic France shows a favorable environment, not much different from other hunting areas on other continents, with plenty of climate variability, contradicting claims of alleged "harsh" venues. "The physical world inhabited by the painters and engravers of Lascaux was unlike anything known today.. Sea levels plummeted more than 300 feet; dry land connected not only North America and Asia but Britain and continental Europe. Southern Europe was cold, dry and covered with rich grasslands. In regions with some topographical re;lief, like southwest France and northern Spain, vegetation was more varied; sheltered and exposed localities created different micro-climates. Paleolithic animal life in this area was abundant, much more like the plains of modern Africa than anything seen in Europe today. Herds of horses, bison, and aurochs roamed the grasslands, along with reindeer and ibex in the hills...
To judge from discoveries of pollen and seed at some sites, and from engravings at others, peoples of Lascaux and their contemporaries ate blueberries, raspberries, acorns, hazelnuts, and other tubers, nuts, berries and grasses.
The last Ice Age was by no means a period of unrelieved cold, millennium after millennium. Temperatures fluctuated, sometimes coming close to today's balmy interglacial climes, and the animal and plant communities fluctuated in concert with them. Warmer climes brought woodland and forest where only open grassland had existed previously. At the same time, the horses and bison- animals of the plains, were replaced with red deer, wild boar and other confines of a forest habitat.. " -- Lewin, Roger (1988). In the Age of Mankind. Smithsonian. pp. 144
Quote 3- Long before the coming of the Neolithic revolution from the Near East via the Natufians and others, ancient cold-adapted Europeans had more than enough opportunity to pioneer plant and animal domestication. Wild species of the cow, horse, pig and goat were all well known. Wild ancestors of important crops- such as wheat-like spelt variants, and chick peas were also in place. What then took the alleged cold-adapted "pace-setters" so long to advance human civilization?
".. as critics of the climate theory point out, the world has gone through many climate fluctuations in the 100,000 years since modern humans occupied the Old World. Opportunities for cultivation and animal husbandry surely existed earlier than the Neolithic. Yet no evidence has emerged that any plant or animal domestication occurred before this time. More specifically, no potential climatic trigger can be identified in many of those cases in which development of domestication can be documented sufficiently to reveal information about local climatic conditions." -- Lewin, Roger (1988). In the Age of Mankind. Smithsonian. pp. 193
Quote 4- Even colder northern climes show a rich resource base and substantial material life. Such resources, particularly the water-based ones of the ocean, river and lake, were relatively stable and predictable, providing plenty of food - hardly the picture of alleged cold-climate peoples "deprivation" in "unforgiving" glacial environments, as alleged by JP Rushton, Michael Levin, Satoshi Kanazawa et al.. Nor did the supposed "evolutionary" evidence of high IQ shine forth. A long tradition of scholarship so the cold climate types of northern Europe or cold eastern Europe as dead-enders.
"Similarities appear in societies in which there are rich maritime or lakeside resources from the far north to the Mediterranean. In the far northern latitudes, where for four months of the year the sun does not set, the icy cold but resource-rich northern sea was the focus of settlements with pit houses, with people using elaborate seagoing vessels in their specialised focus on marine foods, probably associated with seal hunting (Bjerck 1995, Bjerck, this volume). Further south, other structured settlements echo the theme of marine or lakeside focus. At Tagerup in Sweden, large houses were constructed in a 'village; at the confluence of two rivers with permanent structures such as jetties and moorings for boats.. coastal and lakeside regions also provide evocative glimpses of societies for whom the sea and water played an important economic and symbolic role. We see richly symbolic pendants of amber and animal teeth, wooden artefacts such as bows, decorated paddles, canoes, and leisters in evidence from submerged sites in the Baltic.. Riverine resources also appear to have been particularly influential in the development of settlements such as Lepenski Vir and Vlasac in the Iron Gates... we see an apparently 'sacred' site at Lepenski Vir, comprising homes with plaster floors, carved figurines, and neonates interred under the floors." [pg 8]
"The Iron gates contain some of the largest concentration of Mesolithic burials in Europe. Burials have been recorded from at least eleven sites, and four of these, Lepenski Vir, Padina, Schela Cladovei and Vlasac each contained very large numbers of graves." [pg 241]
"Even Grahame Clark, excavator of Star Carr and pioneer and champion of Mesolithic studies in Britain, was forced to concede with evident reluctance in 1952 that the archaeological evidence for the coastal Mesolithic peoples of Northwest Europe hardly contradicted the notion of 'a low level of culture' (Clark 1952:63).. Extrapolating the origins of social complexity to certain contexts in Mesolithic Europe marked a powerful departure from ideas of small, marginalised groups apparently 'going nowhere'.. 'Complexity' was built on dense, productive, coastal resources that were available all year." [pg 4]
"Young (2000b:1) concluded that the discipline was still 'waiting for the great leap forwards'. A long-standing story of Mesolithic hunter-gatherers so immersed in their environments and nature, both ecologically and ideologically as to be almost socially inert seems to retain a strong hold on our imaginations." [pg 5]> -- G. N. Bailey (2008) Mesolithic Europe. Cambridge University Press. pp 8, 241, 4, 5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------
Cold climate evolution put to the test- the Neanderthals whose DNA shows up in today's Europeans
Neanderthals occurred primarily in Europe and show distinct cold-adapted body proportions. Some of their DNA markers appear in modern Europeans according to a recent 2010 study (Richard E. Green et al (2010). "A Draft Sequence of the Neanderthal Genome". Science 328 (5979): 710–722. ) Neanderthals, with clear markers to today's Europeans, are thus a test case for alleged cold climate superiority. But in fact, these early cold-climate Europeans are a genetic dead end, with static technology, and brains that while as big as that of modern humans from Africa, lack essential processing capabilities.
Furthermore the Neanderthals failed to make the leap to more advanced technology beyond the stone age Mousterian package, and failed to innovate plant and animal domestication despite having numerous ancestors of sheep, goats, cows, pigs and horses available to them, as well as wild grain variants that could be used. As noted above, Europe in a colder earlier time possessed environments with a number of rich resources, and variable microclimates. The Neanderthals prospered there. So why couldn't this cold climate European race, which [/img]has DNA links appearing in modern Europeans, show the alleged IQ superiority touted for its homeland, either via brain makeup or technological/cultural achievement?
Quote 5: Neanderthal brains, which should have been superior due to alleged "activation" by the "challenges" of cold climate life, lag behind. They ended up a static dead-end, with genes reflected in modern Europeans but nevertheless failed to make crucial advances.
"Neanderthals had brain sizes comparable to modern humans, but their brain cases were elongated and not globular as in Homo sapiens[1,2]. It has, therefore, been suggested that modern humans and Neanderthals reached large brain sizes along different evolutionary pathways [2]. Here, we assess when during development these adult differences emerge. This is critical for understanding whether differences in the pattern of brain development might underlie potential cognitive differences between these two closely related groups. Previous comparisons of Neanderthal and modern human cranial development have shown that many morphological characteristics separating these two groups are already established at the time of birth [3,4,5], and that the subsequent developmental patterns of the face are similar, though not identical [6]. Here, we show that a globularization phase seen in the neurocranial development of modern humans after birth is absent from Neanderthals." -- Gunz et al (2010) . Brain development after birth differs between Neanderthals and modern human. Current Biology: 20, 21.
Other Notes -- Tattersall I, Schwartz JH (June 1999). "Hominids and hybrids: the place of Neanderthals in human evolution". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 96 (13): 7117–9. ---------------------
r/k Selection theory- more virtuous, high IQ cold climate people (the "K" selected), became so due to alleged "novel challenges" of cold environments, or due to mental adjustments due to "novel, unpredictable" environments. Sounds fascinating, but if r/k selection theory is right in its prediction of behavioral changes caused by "more novel" or "unpredictable" challenges, then it also points to increasing moral corruption and filth by the "k-selected".
In terms of human history and culture child pornography and molestation are certainly outside the norm. They occur in every culture but they are not the norm. However, if r/k Selection Theory is applied, the alleged virtue of whites and Asiatics is called into question. Both groups lead the world in the consumption and production of child pornography or child molestation. Likewise, few tropical nations embrace the marriage of homosexuals on a par with heterosexual relations. Such a par is certainly "novel" in human history. However, here again, r/k Selection Theory may point to a pattern of deviancy being now embraced as normal- it is the white Western nations for the most part that embrace homosexual marriage. Mass killing of children for convenience is also relatively novel in human history. Here again, white women lead all others proportionately (as detailed above), with Asiatics weighing in on the "volume" factor. Examples could go on and on. Proponents of a racial r/k Selection Theory typically spin it to show "approved" groups in a virtuous light, but in fact their same theory predicts continual increases in white "k-selected" moral corruption and filth surpassing anything known in supposedly more "predictable" warm-climate environments.
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If blacks in the U.S have a different learning style that may be true, but in Africa either you apply yourself or you don't.
Do you think East Asians have a different learning style?
From what I know of them they operate as groups rather than singly. Local born East Asians are a bit more individualistic.
The East Asians also tend to study together and they end up spending long hours and nights in the library of lab.
The East Asian style of learning would seem to be hard work and group cooperation.
Indeed, this whole learning style argument or worse-- inherent racial differences, just don't cut it. Asians (East and South) and even blacks straight out of Africa out-perform whites both in North America AND Europe. Does this mean Asians and Africans have different learning styles?? Notice you don't hear sh*t about Asians and especially Africans being inherently smarter than whites. It's simple, people of these cultures value learning and education more so than 'Westerners'. The culture of valuing education is just as strong in African cultures as it in Asian cultures which is why so many of my professors, and scientists I studied under and worked for consisted of Africans and Asians more so than white Americans. 'Race' or style has nothing to do with it, it is all about culture.
Now I have nothing else to contribute to this stupid troll thread.
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The attack occurred in Theater 9 at the Century 16 movie theater adjacent to the Town Center at Aurora shopping mall. The shooter bought a ticket and walked into the movie theater. According to FBI sources, he left by an emergency exit, propped it open, dressed in protective black clothing and gathered weapons from his car parked behind the exit.[5] He returned through the emergency door about half an hour into the film,[10] "dressed all in black; he was wearing a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest, ballistic leggings, a throat protector and a groin protector and a gas mask, and black tactical gloves," according to Aurora police chief Dan Oates.[11][1][12][13]
Oates said that the suspect used two devices to distract the audience members, which "ignited some sort of irritant or smoke" in the cinema,[14] before using a Smith & Wesson AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, a 12-gauge Remington Model 870 shotgun, and a .40 caliber Glock handgun to shoot at the crowd in the cinema. A second Glock handgun was found in the suspect's white Hyundai car behind the cinema.[15][16]
Most of the audience did not take the gunman as a threat when he first entered the theater. He appeared to be wearing a costume, but others too had dressed up for the movie and thought the gunman was pulling off a prank until he dispersed gas canisters and began firing his weapons.[10] Some present thought the gunman was part of a special effects installation set up for the premiere.[17]
Around the first gun scene in the movie, the now masked gunman threw a canister emitting smoke, which partially obscured the audience's sight. The gunman produced a rifle and opened fire on the audience, only stopping to reload his weapon.[18] First he shot to the back of the room, and then aimed towards people who were trying to get away through the aisles.[17] Some bullets penetrated the wall of the cinema and injured people in the adjoining Theater 8, where the same film was being screened.[5] Upon leaving, an audience member saw the gunman advancing toward the exit and blocked his progress by holding the exit shut while the attacker pounded the other side of the door.[18]
The first 9-1-1 calls were made at 12:39 a.m., and the police arrived less than 90 seconds thereafter, almost immediately apprehending the suspect upon their arrival at the scene.[19] The police interviewed over 200 witnesses following the attack.[20] Investigators believe that the shooter acted on his own, and was not part of a larger group or a terrorist organization.[19] Holmes had bought approximately 6,000 rounds of ammunition in the 60 days prior to the shooting.[21] Victims
Ten people died at the scene, and two people were pronounced dead in local hospitals.[5] A total of 70 people were shot, with 58 people injured in addition to the 12 deaths.
The injured were treated at Children's Hospital, Denver Health Medical Center, Medical Center of Aurora, Parker Adventist Hospital, Rose Medical Center, Swedish Hospital, and University Hospital,[22][23] as well as at a makeshift hospital set up at the scene of the attack.[24] Uninjured witnesses were transported to Gateway High School for debriefing. The victims' ages ranged from 3 months to 45 years.[25]
The first person publicly confirmed to have been killed was Jessica Ghawi, a 24-year-old sports writer who used the pen name Jessica Redfield.[26] She had previously survived the Toronto Eaton Centre shooting in June 2012.[27] Suspect At the scene
The alleged shooter, James Eagan Holmes (born December 13, 1987),[4][28][29] was taken into police custody at the scene.[30] He was found next to his car in the theater parking lot and did not resist arrest. The responding officers recovered multiple firearms from inside the vehicle.[31] When apprehended, he told police that he was the "Joker", a villain from the Batman series;[32] he had also painted his hair red, as in some portrayals of the character.[33] Suspected explosives
Once apprehended, Holmes told authorities about explosives in his residence in northern Aurora.[25] Police were treating the home, 5 miles (8 km) from the scene of the crime,[22] as a site where explosives might be present.[12] According to the police, Holmes himself told them that he had booby-trapped his apartment before heading to the theater; as a result, police evacuated five nearby buildings and cleared the area.[34] Police stated that the explosives "look[ed] very sophisticated."[35] The apartment complex[36] is limited to University of Colorado Medical Center students, patients, and staff members.[37] FBI agents and police officers used a ladder to access Holmes' apartment, where they used a camera mounted on a pole to confirm that the apartment was booby-trapped with explosives.[38] Biography
Holmes was raised in San Diego, California.[37] He graduated from Westview High School in the Torrey Highlands community of San Diego in 2006[39] and obtained an undergraduate degree with honors[40] in neuroscience from the University of California, Riverside, in 2010.[41] Holmes enrolled as a Ph.D. student in neuroscience at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Aurora. In 2012, his academic performance declined,[42] and he left school in June.[43]
Media outlets reported that they initially found few digital footprints left by Holmes, other than a university email address and an old Myspace photo.[44]
A California woman who identified herself as the mother of Holmes told ABC News her son was likely the culprit, saying, "You have the right person."[45]
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If blacks in the U.S have a different learning style that may be true, but in Africa either you apply yourself or you don't.
I think a lot of people oversimplify the issue even in the States as blacks not applying themselves to a structural and educational system that was never designed for them in the first place. Even in Africa where Euro structured schools are put in place, the structural style was not designed for traditional African learning styles. Yes to acquire wealth and status the reality is people will have to apply European learning styles. But part of the Euro culture not relenting is that we dont realize the coercion ourselves and it is necessary for us to do so. We let Euro culture destroy this traditional style and say to ourselves we need the discipline to acquire it, as though it should be universally accepted. The Euro, especially in America relies on parading an image of freedom and choice and hates being associated with an image of oppression. Reaction comes with awareness that many blacks are being forced to a learning style that is contrary to our way of thought and learning. While the reality of needing to play along is there, its all to easy to feel opposition, withdrawal or a lack of genuine education when your learning style is different. We must not fall into the trap of justifying Euro hegemony by suggesting we are the problem and all of us need to have the discipline to conform.
quote: Do you think East Asians have a different learning style?
I think "model minority" East Asian cultures impose a VERY similar learning style and are more rigorous in enforcement. They may place a more collectivist spin on it where they can, but the method of instruction and testing for acquisition is very Euro in construction.
quote:From what I know of them they operate as groups rather than singly. Local born East Asians are a bit more individualistic.
One of the most fascinating issues for me, isn't the issue of individualism or collectivism as much as field dependence and field independence and how researchers are suggesting it affects personality temperament, and different needs in educational structure. Its European schools and their emulators across the world have been criticized for only catering to field independent learners. Marimba Ani warns about Euro desire to separate oneself from the environment which is exactly what happens in structurally Euro schools and some blacks will just reject it as "a bunch of bullsh!t" with no way of express it, because he's lived so long with Euros as his mouthpiece. Compared to Euros African Americans are more likely to want to be one with their environment and field. They dont as readily take context out of the learning experience. Euro tests and measures for intellect are field independent in structure cause of their standardized nature and lack of urgency for relevant context to the student.
The effects on the mind are of interest too, which is why I suggest that not everyone needs to go down that road.
"After decades of research into field-dependent and field-independent children and adults, it is clear that these cognitive style differences are associated with numerous other characteristics. Because they rely on their own internal cues, field-independent people are analytical and logical. They tend to gravitate towards occupations such as engineering, science teaching and experimental psychology, and they are often regarded by others as ambitious, inconsiderate and opportunistic.Field-dependent people, on the other hand, pay more attention to the environment and therefore excel at interpersonal relations. They are generally considered to be popular, friendly, warm and sensitive; they tend to prefer occupations such as social work, elementary school teaching and clinical psychology."
The problem with the Euro system and its many emulators is that it breeds people who are more likely to use whatever knowledge their analytical minds come up with at the expense of others. Why would anyone want power and knowledge to go to those being bred to think in a way leaves them more likely to be opportunistic and inconsiderate? that The society works hard to justify this which is why such thinkers will have a hard time getting their minds around functionally maintaining anything resembling the peace and equality that is often spoken of. The world doesnt need less field dependent learners. If anything it needs more. Society is only willing to discuss openly the ambitious and disciplined areas of this mindset and not the opportunistic and inconsiderate part. Euros often to suggest field dependent learners are only good for social situations. But this is only cause to discuss the legitimacy of a field dependent learning style or society is to question the very foundations of what they are presently. Those who've been studying it for awhile, or even a little know race and the subject of field dependence/independence has a strong relationship in the states.
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Despite some East Asians (Mongoloids) such as the Japanese having a higher IQ than Caucasoid Europeans, they have a 'creativity problem'.
''No Asian society has achieved much success in fundamental scientific discovery or technological innovation that goes beyond the adaptation of what has been invented or discovered elsewhere.'' (Henderson, 2009)
They have created or invented nothing themselves.
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The funny thing is though, that you dont see this problem in Euro culture. Euros also seek to evolve paradigms that have been created by others (like the African) such as art and mathematics and suggest their distinct contributions don't like the Asian count as adaptations and to a previously created concept.
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All civilizations have been created by Caucasoids and Mongoloids.
Baker (1974, pp. 506-529) concludes that Caucasioids met all 21 civilization indicia in Sumeria (Iraq), Crete, India, Greece and Egypt, and the Mongoloids met them all in China.
Negroids have never created a civilization.
If Negroids were even capable of keeping a civilization going, one would expect them to be much better off when Apartheid and the economic boycotts of South Africa ended in 1994 and the reins of this first world country were turned over to them from whites. But the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the average income of all races in South Africa dropped 40% between 1995 and 2000.
It is fair to conclude that Negroids are incapable of achieving or maintaining a civilization.
Top: Grande Hotel in Beira, Mozambique in 1975, when the country became independent of white rule
Bottom: The same hotel in 2007, after 32 years of black rule.
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Whatever problems blacks have it is the duty of black governments and black societies to solve them.
Almost 20 years after the dismantling of Apartheid it is surprising that in a place like SA scientific and lab materials are still scarce for the African students. What is the ANC government doing about these deficiencies in education.
In Nigeria it's the same despite daily inflows of petrodollars.
The simple axiom is that the black man must via his governments take responsibility for the educational state of their countries. But they don't. These governments seem lost in a daze. There is no sense of urgency in their actions. They just love to have others do what they should be doing themselves. That's why countries like China are let in so easily.
Individually, blacks do quite well in education. There are blacks who have gone to Russia, learned the language then went on to obtain good degrees in medicine, economics, engineering and the sciences in general. The same for black students who went to Germany, learned the language and performed well academically.
The thing about IQ tests has long been settled after the research done by Flynn and the fact that it is known that African American scores are uniformly higher than those of prestigious historical nations such as Iraq and Iran. Both were known in the past as Sumer(Mesopotamia) and Persia. India which supposedly had an impressive civilisation scores 81 on IQ tests. So IQ scores are determined by so-called race.
Rather than "race" the whole issue rev
Yes, @Lamin, I supprot your view. It is shocking that the ANC has done nothing to improve the lives of the people. they have an agency for the youth, if you have an idea (business, invention etc) then they will fund you after they evaluate your ideas (as they say) but guess what? they will just steal your idea and you get nothing of it. Here we have everything we need to succeed except the economy. The ANC is really just a civil rights movements and has never fought for the leberation of the people, they are corrupt like hell and oppose anyone who brings the land and wealth issue. As a result the Oppenheimer still own us, despite this, there is a slow awakening amongst the people. Fewer and fewer poeple now go to look for jobs, most look to start their own businesses and we support Black businesses (on the smaller business level) like somali, Ethiopian, Nigerian,and local Black stores in general. It is up to us indeed
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LOL, You use that to argue for negroids' supposed failure to maintain a civilization? well your stupid hotel served as a refugee camp during the Mozambiqan civil war. Not that anyone fails to maintain it when they try to, it is just that no one cares about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Hotel_Beira
The place is in this conditin because at the time it was taken it was during war. I am sure you know this but you just want to show us how racist you can be, well you're always wrong. War is not favourable to civilization. http://www.gutentagverlag.com/2007/02/08/grande-hotel-beira-mozambiquePosts: 49 | From: South Africa | Registered: Feb 2012
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: All civilizations have been created by Caucasoids and Mongoloids.
Civilization too is merely a specific spin on a previously existing paradigm you did not create. You are not much different than the Asian that you disrespect to feel big of yourself. You focus on contributions to detail to ignore the lack of invention of larger concepts. "Civilization" being objectively superior relies on subjective philosophical suggestion of materialism, absence of spirituality in the universe, the belief in a fundamental nature of being opportunistic, inconsiderate and competitive and that stratification and inequality are natural/right. I think this is the reason many Euros are turning from God. These values are contrary to how he would have us live, perceive the world and treat one another.
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Harvard faces bias complaint from Asian-American groups - 2015
By Janet Lorin Bloomberg News May 15, 2015
A coalition of more than 60 Asian-American groups filed a federal discrimination complaint against Harvard University, claiming racial bias in undergraduate admissions.
Asian-American students with almost perfect college entrance-exam scores, top 1 percent grade-point averages, academic awards and leadership positions are more likely to be rejected than similar applicants of other races, according to their administrative complaint, filed Friday with the US Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights. Harvard denies any discrimination. [/b]
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quote:Originally posted by Crush Black Lies: But all other races can take the test, smdh. Blacks are so dumb that they had to legislate law to prevent them from having to take the test. WOW!
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I don't think the Asian groups understand the selection process at most universities. Harvard accepts some 5.6% of applicants--which means that--to use a statistical language--the standard deviation from the man would be extremely small. In other words the SAT score of every student admitted would very high.
Under such circumstances criteria other than just SAT scores would be used to admit students. Criteria such as ethnicity, gender,international quota, region of origin, other abilities, etc. would be applied.
The Harvard intake breaks down as follows: 20% Asian, 11% AA, 11% Hispanic(this includes white Hispanics), Native American 2%, International students 1%, and 50% European Americans.
So why are they fussing? They are admitted way above their national numbers and there are other schools just as highly ranked.
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