quote:Originally posted by Mike111: This Drudge Report headline suggests that the last Black Pope was about 1500-1600 A.D. Does anyone know who that Black Pope was?
Mike the headline reads First Black Pope in 1500 years not 1500-1600 AD
1500 years ago was 513
the speculation is that the might pick Cardinal Turkson of Ghana
Saint Symmachus was pope from 498 to 514. His tenure was marked by a serious schism over who was legitimately elected pope by the citizens of Rome.
He was born on Sardinia (then under Vandal rule), the son of Fortunatus; Jeffrey Richards notes that he was born a pagan, and "perhaps the rankest outsider" of all the Ostrogothic Popes, most of whom were members of aristocratic families. Symmachus was baptized in Rome, where he became archdeacon of the Church under Pope Anastasius II.
^^^ look at him, kinda black looking, the original Ostrogoths were said to be black
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they must mean Pope St. Gelasius 492-496 A.D.
Pope Saint Gelasius I (died 21 November 496) was pope from 492 until his death in 496.
He was the third and last Bishop of Rome of Berber origin
Some have asserted that Gelasius was a black African by descent, because the Liber Pontificalis plainly states that he was natione Afer ('African by birth'). This however makes it unlikely that he was black, because Africa in Latin is only the northern part of the continent, and is contrasted with "black Africa", then called Aethiopia. Consequently, black Africans were generally referred to in Latin as Aethiopes. Gelasius' own statement in a letter that he is Romanus natus (Roman-born) is certainly not inconsistent.
in the Catholic Church. Gelasius was a prolific writer whose style placed him on the cusp between Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages. Gelasius had been closely employed by his predecessor Felix III, especially in drafting papal documents. His reign was characterized by a call for strict orthodoxy, a more assertive push for papal authority, and increasing tension between the churches in the West and the East.
The split with the emperor and the patriarch of Constantinople was inevitable, from the western point of view, because they had embraced a view of a single, Divine ("Monophysite") nature of Christ, which was a Christian heresy.
Closer to home, Gelasius finally suppressed the ancient Roman festival of the Lupercalia after a long contest. Gelasius' letter to Andromachus, the senator, covers the main lines of the controversy and incidentally offers some details of this festival combining fertility and purification that might have been lost otherwise. Significantly, this festival of purification, which had given its name— dies februatus, from februare, "to purify"— to the month of February, was replaced with a Christian festival celebrating the purification of the Virgin Mary instead: Candlemas, observed forty days after Christmas, on 2 February.
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Turkson has said that "if God would wish to see a black man also as pope, thanks be to God." The Catholic Church chronicler Rocco Palmo called Turkson the lone Scripture scholar in the Pope's "Senate" and believes that his status as a potential "papabile" has been elevated due to his appointment as spokesman for Second Synod for Africa in 2009. Turkson was born in Wassaw Nsuta in Western Ghana. He studied at St. Teresa's Seminary in the village of Amisano and Pedu before attending St. Anthony-on-Hudson Seminary in Rensselaer, New York, where he obtained a Bachelor's degree in theology. He was ordained to the priesthood by Archbishop John Amissah on 20 July 1975. On October 1992, Turkson was appointed Archbishop of Cape Coast by Pope John Paul II. And created him Cardinal-Priest of S. Liborio in his last consistory of October 2003. Turkson is the first Ghanaian cardinal, and was one of the cardinal electors who participated in the 2005 papal conclave, which selected Pope Benedict XVI In 2009, Turkson reaffirmed the Catholic social teaching on contraception, in regards to statements made by Pope Benedict XVI that condoms were not a solution to Africa's AIDS crisis. He didn't rule out condoms in all circumstances suggesting they could be useful in the situation of a married, faithful couple where one partner is infected. At a 2009 news conference, Turkson was asked whether he thought the time was right for a black Pope, especially in light of President Barack Obama's 2008 election. "Why not?" Turkson replied. He argued that every man who agrees to be ordained a priest has to be willing to be a Pope, and is given training along the way as bishop and cardinal. 'All of that is part of the package.' He also noted that former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan was from Ghana.
Reform of the international financial system
In response to the global economic crisis started in 2008, Cardinal Turkson together with bishop Mario Toso elaborated a proposal to reform the international financial system by creating a Global Public Authority and a Global Bank that consider the interest of all developing countries. The document of 40 pages was officially presented in October 2011 and criticizes the actual structure of International Monetary Fund and other institutions
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Don't be suprised, if they choose a black Pope. An agenda is in play. Re-enslave Africans. With what is going on in Mali etc, something is up. Can't put my finger on it. Don't think it is the oil......maybe the Sahara desert?
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Roman Catholicism in Africa is the part of the Catholic Church in the various countries of Africa. Christian activity in Africa began in the 1st century when the Patriarchate of Alexandria was formed as one of the four original Patriarchs of the East (the others being Constantinople, Antioch, and Jerusalem). In 2005, the Roman and Eastern Catholic Churches of Africa embraced approximately 135,600,000 members of the 809,105,000 residents in Africa. In 2009, when Pope Benedict XVI visited Africa, it was estimated at 158 million. By 2025, one-sixth (230 million) of the world's Catholics are expected to be African.The world's largest seminary is in Nigeria, which borders on Cameroon in western Africa, and over all, Africa produces a large percentage of the world's priests. There are also 16 cardinals from Africa, out of 192, and 400,000 catechists. Cardinal Peter Turkson, Archbishop of Cape Coast, Ghana, is Africa's youngest cardinal at 61 years old. Many important members of the early Church were from Africa, including Mark the Evangelist, Origen, Tertullian, Saint Augustine of Hippo (from Hippo Regius in what is now Algeria) and Clement of Alexandria. Churches in eastern North Africa, such as those in Egypt and Ethiopia, tended to align with the practice of the Eastern Church, but those to the West (the area now known as the Maghreb) were connected to the Roman Church. Three early popes were from the Roman Africa Province. These were Pope Victor I (reigned c . 189 to 199), Pope Miltiades (reigned 311 to 314) and Pope Gelasius I (492 to 496).
Church membership rose from 2 million in 1900 to 140 million in 2000.
End of indigenous Christianity in northwest Africa after the Arab conquest by 700 AD The conventional historical view is that the conquest of North Africa by the Islamic Umayyad Caliphate between AD 647–709 effectively ended Catholicism in Africa for several centuries. A prevailing view is that the Church at that time lacked the backbone of a monastic tradition and was still suffering from the aftermath of heresies including the so-called Donatist heresy, and this contributed to the earlier obliteration of the Church in the present day Maghreb. Some historians contrast this with the strong monastic tradition in Coptic Egypt, which is credited as a factor that allowed the Coptic Church to remain the majority faith in that country until around after the 14th century AD.
However, new scholarship has appeared that disputes this. There are reports that the Roman Catholic faith persisted in the region from Tripolitania (present-day western Libya) to present-day Morocco for several centuries after the completion of the Arab conquest by 700 AD. There are currently archaeological excavations in western Libya that are focused on the remains of Christian churches dated from the 10th century AD. There is also evidence of religious pilgrimages after 850 AD to tombs of Catholic saints outside of the city of Carthage, and evidence of religious contacts with Christians of Arab Spain. In addition, calendar reforms adopted in Europe at this time were disseminated amongst the indigenous Christians of Tunis, which would have not been possible had there been an absence of contact with Rome.
It does look like local Catholicism came under enormous pressure around the time that the Muslim fundamentalist regimes of the Almohads and Almoravids came into power, and the record shows demands made of the local Christians of Tunis to convert to Islam. We still have reports of Christian inhabitants and a bishop in the city of Kairoun around 1150 AD - a significant report, since this city of founded by Arab muslims around 680 AD as their administrative center after their conquest. A letter in Catholic Church archives from the 14th century shows that there were still four bishoprics left in North Africa, admittedly a sharp decline from the over four hundred bishoprics in existence at the time of the Arab conquest.
By 1830, when the French came as colonial conquerors to Algeria and Tunis, local Catholicism had been extinguished. The growth of Catholicism in the region after the French conquest was built on European colonizers and settlers, and these immigrants and their descendants left when the countries of the region became independent.
20th century - 21st Century
According to Philip Jenkins, the 20th century saw major changes for the Catholic Church. In 1920 Hilaire Belloc had proclaimed, "The Church is Europe, and Europe is the Church." By 1960, the College of Cardinals had its first African, Laurean Rugambwa. By deliberate policy, John Paul II selected many cardinals from Third World nations, and by 2001 they made up over 40 percent of the body.[5] In 2002, Italian cardinals made up just 15 percent of the College, a drop from 60 percent in the 1950s.
Jenkins sees the conservatism of John Paul II as particularly attractive to Catholics in developing nations and likely to be a dominant force in Catholic politics for some time.[5] Francis Arinze, a Nigerian cardinal and adviser to Pope John Paul II, and was considered papabile before the 2005 papal conclave, which elected Benedict XVI.As Arinze is theologically conservative, Jenkins suggests he would bring African "notions of authority and charisma" to the office, rather than democracy.[
Jenkins states, "The prospect of a Black African pope understandably excites Christians of all political persuasions."[Even Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, three years before his own selection as Pope, labeled the prospect of an African pope as "entirely plausible" and a "wonderful sign for all Christianity."Following the death of John Paul II, Anglican Archbishop Desmond Tutu endorsed calls for the election of a pope from Africa or the developing world, saying that he hoped the cardinals would "follow the first non-Italian pope by electing the first African pope", though the honor of being the first African Pope actually belongs to Pope Victor I. According to Financial Times, an African such as Arinze would "boost the popularity" of the Church, which is facing strong competition in Africa from Pentecostal, Baptist, and Evangelical churches.The Daily Telegraph has said that an "African papacy is the logical outcome" given that the majority of Catholics now live in the developing world, and in particular, the African Catholic church "has grown by 20 times since 1980."
In the next conclave, Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana has been called "the most likely" candidate from Africa.
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In January 2009, he lifted the excommunication of four ultraconservative bishops fundamentalist movement of Marcel Lefebvre, among them the British Richard Williamson, who denies the existence of the Nazi Holocaust.
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Well we can never be too sure not saying one is more authentic than the other and being Berber or Afer there is a good chance of him being of the darker kind...just saying.
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In January 2009, he lifted the excommunication of four ultraconservative bishops fundamentalist movement of Marcel Lefebvre, among them the British Richard Williamson, who denies the existence of the Nazi Holocaust.
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3 African popes.
1) 186-197CE 15th pope Victor I 2) 311-314CE 37th? pope Militiades 3) 492-496CE 49th pope Gelasius I
Can't say if they were black or tawny. N Africa's church flourished until Vandals.
Top present day contenders are from two Gulf of Guinea African lands.
Cardinal Francis Arinze - odds 15/8
Born in Nigeria, 1932, the 80-year-old would be the first African in 1,500 years to sit on the throne of St Peter.
He was baptised on his ninth birthday after converting.
He was educated at Urban University in Rome and earned a post-graduate qualification from London University.
Cardinal Arinze was ordained in 1958 and became the world's youngest bishop, aged 32, in 1965. He was created cardinal in 1985.
Cardinal Peter Turkson - odds 9/4
Considerably younger than his rivals, the Ghanian is the current President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
Born to a Methodist mother and a Catholic father in 1948, he became a priest in 1975.
The 64-year-old speaks Fante, English, French, Italian, German, Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic and Greek.
Head of the Vatican justice and peace bureau, he is spokesman for the Church's social conscience and backs world financial reform.
He was named Cardinal in 2003 and would be the first African to become Pope in 1,500 years.
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The Vatican/Papal state with its order the Knight Malta and Jesuit is the most powerful secret force on earth I dont see them electing a black Pope.Other powerful secret force after the Papacy are the British monarchy, the city of London international banker, the black nobility and the Freemason.
Im not interested on cosmetic black Pope being elected fronting a white Imperialist institution.Im interested on the Vatican opening its library and releasing books, manuscripts and documents on the secret history of Africa, black people, Egypt, Olmec/Aztec, Moors and black European etc.
Google Africamaat saint Maurice and you will see the picture of a council of coptic bishop in Alexandria in the 4 cent CE were all the bishop are black.
Having all been bombarded by Albino lies and propaganda since birth, let us now look at the issue of the race of the first Popes logically.
Saint Peter
Simon Peter, also known as Saint Peter, was an early Christian leader and one of the twelve apostles of Jesus. Peter is featured prominently in the New Testament Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles and is venerated as a saint. The son of John or of Jonah or Jona, he was from the village of Bethsaida in the province of Galilee or Gaulanitis (east of the sea of Galilee). His brother Andrew was also an apostle. Peter is venerated in multiple churches and is regarded as the first pope by the Catholic Church. After working to establish the church of Antioch and presiding for seven years as the leader of the city's Christian community, he preached, or his epistle was preached in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia Minor and Bithynia to scattered communities of believers: Jews, Hebrew Christians and the gentiles. He then went to Rome where in the second year of Claudius, it is claimed, he overthrew Simon Magus and held the Sacerdotal Chair for 25 years.
Antioch
Founded near the end of the 4th century BC by Seleucus I Nicator, one of Alexander the Great's generals, Antioch's geographic, military and economic location, particularly the spice trade, the Silk Road, the Persian Royal Road, benefited its occupants, and eventually it rivaled Alexandria as the chief city of the Near East. As a result of its longevity and historical industriousness, Antioch was called a cradle of Christianity. It was one of the four cities of the Syrian tetrapolis. Its residents are known as Antiochenes. Once a great metropolis of half a million people, it declined to insignificance during the Middle Ages because of repeated earthquakes, the Crusaders' invasions, and a change in trade routes following the Mongol conquests, which then no longer passed through Antioch from the far east.
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Pope Saint Linus (died c. 76) was, according to several early sources, Bishop of the Diocese of Rome after Saint Peter. This would make Linus the second Pope.
According to other early sources Pope Clement I was the Pope after Peter. Linus is the only person specifically mentioned in the New Testament, other than Peter, considered by the Catholic Church to have held the position of Pope.
The Apostolic Constitutions says that Linus was the first bishop of Rome and was ordained by Paul, and that he was succeeded by Clement, who was ordained by Peter. Cletus is given as Linus's successor by Irenaeus and the others cited above who present Linus either as the first bishop of Rome or, if they give Peter as the first, as the second.
According to the Liber Pontificalis, Linus was an Italian from Tuscany (though his name is Greek) and born in Volterra, and his father's name was Herculanus. The Apostolic Constitutions names his mother as Claudia (immediately after the name "Linus" in 2 Timothy 4:21 a Claudia is mentioned, but the Apostolic Constitutions does not explicitly identify that Claudia as Linus's mother).
Ancient Etruscans Unlikely Ancestors Of Modern Tuscans, Testing Reveals.
News story from the Science Daily — For the first time, Stanford university researchers have used statistical computer modeling to simulate demographic processes affecting the population of the Tuscany region of Italy over a 2,500-year time span. Rigorous tests used by the researchers have ruled out a genetic link between Ancient Etruscans, the original inhabitants of central Italy, and the region's modern day residents.
The findings indicate that the Ancient Etruscans had little in common with the people who later came to Italy, said Joanna Mountain, assistant professor of anthropological sciences. The findings as documented in ''Serial Coalescent Simulations” indicate a Weak Genealogical Relationship Between Etruscans and Modern Tuscans. The study was published May 15, 2006 in the online version of the National Academy of Sciences. Uma Ramakrishnan, a former Stanford postdoctoral fellow, and Elise M. S. Belle along with Guido Barbujani of the University of Ferrara in Italy, co-authored the paper with Mountain.
To date; the Etruscans are the only pre-classical European population that has been genetically analyzed, Mountain said. Two years ago, Italian geneticists extracted maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA from the bones of 27 people called Etruscans found in six different necropolises (burial sites) in Tuscany. The female lineage was investigated because, unlike the male Y chromosome, many copies of mitochondrial DNA are found in each cell and thus are easier to extract, Mountain explained. The finding is important because it questions the common assumption that residents of a particular place are descendants of its earlier inhabitants, Mountain said.
Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by Stanford University.
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Pope Saint Anacletus (very rarely written as Anencletus), was the third Roman Pope (after St. Peter and St. Linus). He is also listed as Pope Cletus and his pontificate was once erroneously split into Cletus and Anacletus.
The name "Cletus" in Ancient Greek means "one who has been called", and "Anacletus" means "one who has been called back". Also "Anencletus" (Greek: Ανέγκλητος) means "unimpeachable".
St Cletus/Anacletus was traditionally said to have been a Roman, and to have been pope for twelve years. The Annuario Pontificio states: "For the first two centuries, the dates of the start and the end of the pontificate are uncertain." It gives the years 80 to 92 as the reign of Pope Cletus/Anacletus. Other sources give the years 77 to 88.
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Pope Clement I also known as Saint Clement of Rome is listed from an early date as a Bishop of Rome. He was the first Apostolic Father of the Church.
Saint Clement of Rome is commemorated in the Synaxarium of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria on the 29th of the month of Hatour [25 November (Julian) – equivalent to 8 December (Gregorian) due to the current 13-day Julian-Gregorian Calendar offset]. According to the Coptic Church Synaxarium, he suffered martyrdom in AD 100 during the reign of Emperor Trajan (98–117). He was martyred by tying his neck to an anchor and casting him into the sea. The record of the 29th of the Coptic month of Hatour states that this saint was born in Rome to an honorable father whose name was Fostinus and who was a member of the Roman senate and that his father educated him and taught him Greek literature.
The Orthodox Church depicts Clement as a Black man - they ought to know.
Pope Saint Evaristus is accounted the fifth Pope, holding office from c. 99 to 107 AD or from 99 to 108. He was also known as Aristus.
Little is known about St Evaristus. According to the Liber Pontificalis, he came from a family of Hellenic Jewish origin (born in Bethlehem, Judaea). He was elected during the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian, the time of the second general persecution.
Eusebius, in his Ecclesiastical History IV, I, stated that Evaristus died in the 12th year of the reign of the Roman Emperor Trajan, after holding the office of bishop of the Romans for eight years.
It was once supposed that all the early Popes were martyrs. There is no confirmation of this in the case of Pope Evaristus, who is listed without that title in the Roman Martyrology, with a feast day on 26 October.
St Evaristus succeeded St Clement in the See of Rome during the reign of Trajan and governed the Church for about eight years, as the fourth successor of St. Peter. The Liber Pontificalis says that he was the son of a Hellenic Jew of Bethlehem, and, that he divided Rome into several "titles" or Parishes, assigning a priest to each, and appointed seven deacons for the city. He is usually accorded the title of martyr, but his martyrdom is not proven. It is probable that St Evaristus was buried near St Peter's tomb in the Vatican. His feast day is celebrated on 26 October.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: The first five Popes:
Having all been bombarded by Albino lies and propaganda since birth, let us now look at the issue of the race of the first Popes logically.
Saint Peter
Simon Peter, also known as Saint Peter, was an early Christian leader and one of the twelve apostles of Jesus. Peter is featured prominently in the New Testament Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles and is venerated as a saint. The son of John or of Jonah or Jona, he was from the village of Bethsaida in the province of Galilee or Gaulanitis (east of the sea of Galilee). His brother Andrew was also an apostle. Peter is venerated in multiple churches and is regarded as the first pope by the Catholic Church. After working to establish the church of Antioch and presiding for seven years as the leader of the city's Christian community, he preached, or his epistle was preached in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia Minor and Bithynia to scattered communities of believers: Jews, Hebrew Christians and the gentiles. He then went to Rome where in the second year of Claudius, it is claimed, he overthrew Simon Magus and held the Sacerdotal Chair for 25 years.
Antioch
Founded near the end of the 4th century BC by Seleucus I Nicator, one of Alexander the Great's generals, Antioch's geographic, military and economic location, particularly the spice trade, the Silk Road, the Persian Royal Road, benefited its occupants, and eventually it rivaled Alexandria as the chief city of the Near East. As a result of its longevity and historical industriousness, Antioch was called a cradle of Christianity. It was one of the four cities of the Syrian tetrapolis. Its residents are known as Antiochenes. Once a great metropolis of half a million people, it declined to insignificance during the Middle Ages because of repeated earthquakes, the Crusaders' invasions, and a change in trade routes following the Mongol conquests, which then no longer passed through Antioch from the far east.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: look at him, kinda black looking, the original Ostrogoths were said to be black
I just caught this: If you were dumb enough to believe Lioness, then you deserve to be made a fool of.
The Visigoths and Ostrogoths were branches of the nomadic tribes of Germanic peoples referred to collectively as the Goths. These tribes flourished and spread during the late Roman Empire in Late Antiquity, or the Migration Period.
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The old Russian city of Tver was started in the 12th century. The present catalog includes icons from several Russian museums painted between the second half of the 13th - the 17th centuries, which have been attributed to Tver, mainly by virtue of their style.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: look at him, kinda black looking, the original Ostrogoths were said to be black
I just caught this: If you were dumb enough to believe Lioness, then you deserve to be made a fool of.
The Visigoths and Ostrogoths were branches of the nomadic tribes of Germanic peoples referred to collectively as the Goths. These tribes flourished and spread during the late Roman Empire in Late Antiquity, or the Migration Period.
I put that in for your eye, I'm submitting a new theory the Germanic Goths ( Visigoths and Ostrogoths) Were Black for your approval (GWB theory)
don't give it an answer yet, give it a couple days thought
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Actually I don't see the big deal with leading African Church figures including dark-skinned ones it's not like Europe was not used to having dark-skinned folks as religious figures and icons before during and after the fall of Rome. Temple Of Isis Pompii I dare say it was neccessary to seem legit while transforming the old Gods/goddess into saints. Horus and St,George.
Even the so called whitch craft did not escape African taint. Moors Magic and Witches
From the book a history of secret sociaties by arkon darul.the earliest mentions of the witches sabbats;which were also known as "synagogues" came in the eleventh century,and seem to show the assimilation of the diana cult with another: one which involves the worship of a "black man".then we have mentions of brewing of potions,rubbing on oinyments,meetings and spells at cross-roads,renouncing christianity and the use of the wax image in a death-spell. by the fifteenth century,there was a remarkable similarity between witch meeting reported or confessed to,in many countries,some without much contact with one another.
reference will be made later to the "sabbat" rituals reported from sweden,spain,scotland and france. from the 7th~15th centuries the moors were ruling spain and north africa. cultral penetration from their universities into western europe was enormous;
while their transltions of greek and other philosophical books posed a challenge which the theologians of the west were hard to meet during this very same period, a strange cult had arisen in morocco,crossed the strits into andaluisa, and wasactively-if secretly-followed in the centres of arab civilization with cosmopolitan populations. the latter consisted of arabized jews,christians scholors and wandering ascetics who travelled from one country to another in search of knowlage. the cult was called by the arab authorities{who tried to put it down} "the double horned", and it seemed to be connected moon-worship.
it was certainly associated with magic, and its similarities to what were later reported as witch practises are very close. the devotees of this cult met on thursday nights,were initiated by having a wound inflicted somewhere on their bodies{which left a smallscar},and beleived that they could raise magical power by dancing in or around a circle. some of them claim that they at times carried out religious services which involved the saying of the moslem prayers backwards,and invoking el aswad(the black man)to help them. they served their priests, whom they saw only rarely, says the historian ibn jafar,after taking an oath of fealty of body and soul,they were drawn from all sections of the community, were of both sexes, and used ritual knives in the scarring ceremony. these knives were known as al-dhamme' or bloodletters.
here is a typical initiation ceremony of the horned ones:we gathered by night, where two paths met and crossed; and he who had been so instructed bore with him a cock, which was to be sacrificed as the emblem of the new day. each carried a staff with two horns in brass upon the head; which is symbolical of the goat which is ridden,the sign of power and irresistiblity. "this meeting which is called the zabbat,the forceful or powerful one; and the circle of companions are the kafan(arabic for winding sheet).
those of us who are companions of the rabbna(our lord) examplified by the blacksmith". in Morocco to this day, blacksmiths are considered to be great sorcerers; and in the middle east in general(as well as in the arabian nights)it is the moor who is always the magician. in 1324,the trail of lady KYTELER in ireland brought allegations that she was a witch; that she sacrificed a red cock to one, who was called an ETHIOPEAN; the use of the name ROBIN and ROBINET; and variations is more than once found in EUROPEAN witch craft cases, the apperance of the blackman is not uncommon.
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she sacrificed a red cock to one, who was called an ETHIOPIAN The apperance of the blackman is not uncommon.Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Actually I don't see the big deal with leading African Church figures including dark-skinned ones it's not like Europe was not used to having dark-skinned folks as religious figures and icons before during and after the fall of Rome.
The point is the lies of Albino history, and specifically in this case, the lies of the Albino controlled Catholic Church.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Actually I don't see the big deal with leading African Church figures including dark-skinned ones it's not like Europe was not used to having dark-skinned folks as religious figures and icons before during and after the fall of Rome.
The point is the lies of Albino history, and specifically in this case, the lies of the Albino controlled Catholic Church.
yes all humans lie, what's your point?
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Albinos must admit their crimes and acknowledge their attempted coverup. Only then can we all move forward.
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It look like the Baphomet goat and black head worship of the European knight templar come from the black Moors of Spain and Morocco.The book history of secret societies by Akron Darul described the worship of a black man or El Aswad, a two horned one and staff with the symbol of the goat by the Moors in Europe.The Moors of Morocco may have got that religion from the Egyptian of Mendes who worshiped the goat God Banebdjedet.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Brotherhood of Man.
Ohh that's rich Mike coming from a Kill Whitey, White people hating, lying, history stealing Black racist POS like you. Sorry but we will never hand our history over to you, we will never hand our heritage over to you, we will never hand you our identities, we will never hand over our homeland to you & leave our people with nothing. Leaving our people knowing not where they come from, knowing not who they are, knowing not who their ancestors were. Walking through this world a historyless, heritageless, homeless, prideless people. We will not allow you to deny us of what is rightfully ours. We will not allow you to push us off of the land of our ancestors & into a land that is a barren wasteland where nothing can be grown, no animals can be raised for lack of water & where nothing can get in or out for trade, a land that is NOT ours. I for one will NEVER call you and your ilk of White people hating,Black racist Pos's (Narmer, Ironcocksucker, Kikuyu, Mali, Mena7, Typezeiss, Xyyman, NonTruthhitman) brother but will call you the ENEMY.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Brotherhood of Man.
Ohh that's rich Mike coming from a Kill Whitey, White people hating, lying, history stealing Black racist POS like you. Sorry but we will never hand our history over to you, we will never hand our heritage over to you, we will never hand you our identities, we will never hand over our homeland to you & leave our people with nothing. Leaving our people knowing not where they come from, knowing not who they are, knowing not who their ancestors were. Walking through this world a historyless, heritageless, homeless, prideless people. We will not allow you to deny us of what is rightfully ours. We will not allow you to push us off of the land of our ancestors & into a land that is a barren wasteland where nothing can be grown, no animals can be raised for lack of water & where nothing can get in or out for trade, a land that is NOT ours. I for one will NEVER call you and your ilk of White people hating,Black racist Pos's (Narmer, Ironcocksucker, Kikuyu, Mali, Mena7, Typezeiss, Xyyman, NonTruthhitman) brother but will call you the ENEMY.
Yes, I know Doxie, you can't help it, none, or few of you can.
There lies the rub folks, the Albino appears unable to stop or control their xenophobic, hating, paranoid, murderous, ways.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Brotherhood of Man.
either that or a race war
We already had those, that's why we are where we are now.
I believe that Humans continually evolve forward. That means that sooner or later, the Albinos will learn to control their base instincts, and become civilized.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Brotherhood of Man.
either that or a race war
We already had those, that's why we are where we are now.
I believe that Humans continually evolve forward. That means that sooner or later, the Albinos will learn to control their base instincts, and become civilized.
what about this new Black pope thing?
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quote:It look like the Baphomet goat and black head worship of the European knight templar come from the black Moors of Spain and Morocco.The book history of secret societies by Akron Darul described the worship of a black man or El Aswad, a two horned one and staff with the symbol of the goat by the Moors in Europe.The Moors of Morocco may have got that religion from the Egyptian of Mendes who worshiped the goat God Banebdjedet.
Yes indeed but there is an even earlier association with Pan and Bes one of the most widely worshipped dieties whose influence stretched from the Great Lakes region in Central Africa to Nigeria the Mediterranean and beyond Ephesus-Seljuk_Museum
Nigerian Bes The first one is a sculpture of a Yoruba figure called a Child of Obatala. Obatala is a Yoruba god. And the second one is the Egyptian god Bes. And they are both wearing a skull necklace.
Egyptian Bes Btw please check out the vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwABFs0Merc&feature=player_embedded#! Keep in mind the up-loader of this vid is to be regarded as an hostile witness,although I am not recommeding anyone run out and start worshipping a goat.. Such rites must have appeared demonic to Christians,Muslems who tried to stomped it out. Oh one more thing it may go into explaining the assoiciation with the devil being black,in early European Christian mind.
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I often tried to encourage Mike to take a look at what Black authors and researchers have to offer but he is anything but stubborn..these I concider gems.
Note these images are not easy to come by on the net so it's difficult to make a counter argument when someone say show me some images of a Black Pope.
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Brada-Anansi - Apparently you are unaware that Albino history does allow for three Black Popes, Miltiades being one of them. (The best lie is one with a little truth in it).
These Negroes are as ill-informed as any, but it serves as example.
THE NATIONAL BLACK CATHOLIC CONGRESS
Reflections on the African Popes
According to the Liber Pontificalis, three popes-Pope St Victor I (ca186-198), Pope St Miltiades (311-14), and Pope St Gelasius (492-496)-were Africans. The Liber Pontificalis is composed of a series of biographical entries, which record the dates and important facts for each pope. It is the oldest and most detailed chronicle dating from the Early Church. The Liber Pontificalis is dated from the sixth century. The record of names begins with St Peter. As the work progressed the entries became longer and more detailed. The Liber Pontificalis continued to be written until 1431.
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Suppose somebody named Jack owned a library and he murdered somebody named Robert who worked at the library.
After the murder Jack buys a shovel and takes the body somewhere out in the country and buries it.
Stupidly he leaves a receipt for the shovel floating around in his car and it gets gets crumpled and it winds up finding it's way into the crack between the seats.
Jack knew Robert and he becomes a suspect.
A special investigator is called in. His name is investigator Mike. His badge number is #111. Investigator Mike carries out an investigation into the murder of Robert. After two weeks he is called into make a report on his findings to the Commissioner. The Commisioner asks him "so Mike have you gotten any leads are you making any progress?"
Mike replies:
"I think I'm on to something. This Jack character owned a library. I've been looking at the books in there. There has got to be a book written by Jack called "How I killed Robert". It's just a matter of time before I find it. "
He is thrown out of the office by the Commisioner. On the way out his reprt binder hits him on the back of the head
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Alternative news are predicting black Ghanaean Cardinal Peter Turkson will be the next Pope.I think it will be good symbolicaly and spiritualy.Cardinal Turkson will become the President/CEO of one of the most powerful white institution on earth but the people who will realy manage the Vatican will be the white chairman aka white cardinals,white Jesuit black Pope and the white aristocratic family of the Knight Malta.It is like Barack Obama is the President/CEO of the USA but the real power in the USA are International banker, Wall street banker, Billionaire, CEO of corporation and Europeen secret societies who are the chairman of the USA.
The Papal state/Vatican is a white imperialst power it doesnt matter if the Pope is black.The Papacy was the power behind European world imperialism.for 600 years the Papacy rule Europe and Europe rule the world.The Papacy divided the world between Spain and Portugal.Pope Nicola V papal bull legalise the African slave trade by European.
The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence.Possessing more material wealth than any bank, corporation, giant trust or governement anywhere on the globe.The Vatican rules over approximatively 2 billion of the world 7 billion people.The Vatican invested their money with the International banker of Britain, France and the USA and with giant US and oil corporations.The Vatican billion dollars gold bars is stored in the International bankers controled bank of England and USA Fed Res bank.
I think the 1 billion black people in Africa have to create there own Papal state/Vatican with their own Pope/Pharaoh, their own male and female cardinals,their own Papal bank etc.Africa also need a strong universal royal family like the one in the UK.Africa need International banking families and international brotherhood organisation.It is strange the model of the European institution that now rule the world first started in Africa Nile Valley.
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Yes indeed but there is an even earlier association with Pan and Bes one of the most widely worshipped dieties whose influence stretched from the Great Lakes region in Central Africa to Nigeria the Mediterranean and beyond Ephesus-Seljuk_Museum
^^^^ why do you always post this big dick Priapus guy ? Posts: 42919 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Yes indeed but there is an even earlier association with Pan and Bes one of the most widely worshipped dieties whose influence stretched from the Great Lakes region in Central Africa to Nigeria the Mediterranean and beyond Ephesus-Seljuk_Museum
^^^^ why do you always post this big dick Priapus guy ?
To make your ho wet and wild ofcourse..
That one guy you posted is not a pink ass like you. No pink ass has those attributes save with the aid of surgical intervention...
Africans? Now you know Africans... since you masturbate with your specially made "Obama dildo" every night before you sleep... Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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Europe was still poor has a whole in the 1500's.
In the 1400's and 1500's you still had empires like mali,and songhay,and others in africa and asia,so i would not say europe ruled the world in that time.
It will be correct to say they rule most of the world in the late 1800's to most of the 1900's.
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You are right firewall Europe was still poor in the 1500. There was great African empires like Mali and Songhai, there was also the Chinese Ming empire, the Ottoman empire etc in the 1400 and 1500.
I was quoting Jordan Maxwell who stated for one thousand years Rome rule Europe and Europe rule the world.But Jordan statement is not correct I agree with you Firewall for 300 or 200 years Europe rule most of the world but not the whole world.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Yes indeed but there is an even earlier association with Pan and Bes one of the most widely worshipped dieties whose influence stretched from the Great Lakes region in Central Africa to Nigeria the Mediterranean and beyond Ephesus-Seljuk_Museum
^^^^ why do you always post this big dick Priapus guy ?
That one guy you posted is not a pink ass like you. No pink ass has those attributes save with the aid of surgical intervention...
dunce, the current largest dick in the world is held by a man named Jonah Falcon
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