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NEWSSTORY:

Ancient Europeans mysteriously vanished 4,500 years ago
Published April 23, 2013 - LiveScience

The genetic lineage of Europe mysteriously transformed about 4,500 years ago, new research suggests.


The findings, detailed today (April 23) in the journal Nature Communications, were drawn from several skeletons unearthed in central Europe that were up to 7,500 years old. "What is intriguing is that the genetic markers of this first pan-European culture, which was clearly very successful, were then suddenly replaced around 4,500 years ago, and we don't know why," said study co-author Alan Cooper, of the University of Adelaide Australian Center for Ancient DNA, in a statement. "Something major happened, and the hunt is now on to find out what that was."

The new study also confirms that people sweeping out from Turkey colonized Europe, likely as a part of the agricultural revolution, reaching Germany about 7,500 years ago. For decades, researchers have wondered whether people, or just ideas, spread from the Middle East during the agricultural revolution that occurred after the Mesolithic period. To find out, Cooper and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which resides in the cells' energy-making structures and is passed on through the maternal line, from 37 skeletal remains from Germany and two from Italy; the skeletons belonged to humans who lived in several different cultures that flourished between 7,500 and 2,500 years ago. The team looked a DNA specifically from a certain genetic group, called haplogroup h, which is found widely throughout Europe but is less common in East and Central Asia.

The researchers found that the earliest farmers in Germany were closely related to Near Eastern and Anatolian people, suggesting that the agricultural revolution did indeed bring migrations of people into Europe who replaced early hunter-gatherers. But that initial influx isn't a major part of Europe's genetic heritage today.

Instead, about 5,000 to 4,000 years ago, the genetic profile changes radically, suggesting that some mysterious event led to a huge turnover in the population that made up Europe. The Bell Beaker culture, which emerged from the Iberian Peninsula around 2800 B.C., may have played a role in this genetic turnover. The culture, which may have been responsible for erecting some of the megaliths at Stonehenge, is named for its distinctive bell-shaped ceramics and its rich grave goods. The culture also played a role in the expansion of Celtic languages along the coast.

"We have established that the genetic foundations for modern Europe were only established in the Mid-Neolithic, after this major genetic transition around 4,000 years ago,"

lamin you ass-hole, are you reading and comprehending????


study co-author Wolfgang Haak, also of the Australian Center for Ancient DNA, said in a statement. "This genetic diversity was then modified further by a series of incoming and expanding cultures from Iberia and Eastern Europe through the Late Neolithic."

He,he,he:

Check out this Albino "Sight-of-hand":

(Here, a skeleton, not used in the study, but from the same time period, that was excavated from a grave in Sweden. (öran Burenhult)

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^HOW MANY LYING ALBINO AUTHORS DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE A BIG FAT LIE SEEM LIKE THE TRUTH???

The answer = 59:
Countum yourself: lamin or lioness better tell them that if they had a million, we would still know better than to believe them.

(This is the actual article at Nature)


Nature Communications Article

Neolithic mitochondrial haplogroup H genomes and the genetic origins of Europeans

Paul Brotherton,
Wolfgang Haak,
Jennifer Templeton,
Guido Brandt,
Julien Soubrier,
Christina Jane Adler,
Stephen M. Richards,
Clio Der Sarkissian,
Robert Ganslmeier,
Susanne Friederich,
Veit Dresely,
Mannis van Oven,
Rosalie Kenyon,
Mark B. Van der Hoek,
Jonas Korlach,
Khai Luong,
Simon Y.W. Ho,
Lluis Quintana-Murci,
Doron M. Behar,
Harald Meller,
Kurt W. Alt,
Alan Cooper,
Syama Adhikarla,
Arun Kumar Ganesh Prasad,
Ramasamy Pitchappan,
Arun Varatharajan Santhakumari,
Elena Balanovska,
Oleg Balanovsky,
Jaume Bertranpetit,
David Comas,
Begoña Martínez-Cruz,
Marta Melé,
Andrew C. Clarke,
Elizabeth A. Matisoo-Smith,
Matthew C. Dulik,
Jill B. Gaieski,
Amanda C. Owings,
Theodore G. Schurr,
Miguel G. Vilar,
Angela Hobbs,
Himla Soodyall,
Asif Javed,
Laxmi Parida,
Daniel E. Platt,
Ajay K. Royyuru,
Li Jin,
Shilin Li,
Matthew E. Kaplan,
Nirav C. Merchant,
R John Mitchell,
Colin Renfrew,
Daniela R. Lacerda,
Fabrício R Santos,
David F. Soria Hernanz,
R Spencer Wells,
Pandikumar Swamikrishnan,
Chris Tyler-Smith,
Pedro Paulo Vieira
& Janet S. Ziegle

Abstract

Abstract•
Accession codes•
Author information•
Supplementary information

Haplogroup H dominates present-day Western European mitochondrial DNA variability (>40%), yet was less common (~19%) among Early Neolithic farmers (~5450 BC) and virtually absent in Mesolithic hunter-gatherers. Here we investigate this major component of the maternal population history of modern Europeans and sequence 39 complete haplogroup H mitochondrial genomes from ancient human remains. We then compare this ‘real-time’ genetic data with cultural changes taking place between the Early Neolithic (~5450 BC) and Bronze Age (~2200 BC) in Central Europe. Our results reveal that the current diversity and distribution of haplogroup H were largely established by the Mid Neolithic (~4000 BC), but with substantial genetic contributions from subsequent pan-European cultures such as the Bell Beakers expanding out of Iberia in the Late Neolithic (~2800 BC). Dated haplogroup H genomes allow us to reconstruct the recent evolutionary history of haplogroup H and reveal a mutation rate 45% higher than current estimates for human mitochondria.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n4/full/ncomms2656.html

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Damn those albino liars. At least we have Mike to point them out. [Roll Eyes]
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Complete Mitochondrial Genomes Reveal Neolithic Expansion into Europe

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObjectAttachment.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0032473&representation=PDF


MtDNA analysis of global populations support that major population expansions began before Neolithic Time

http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121018/srep00745/pdf/srep00745.pdf


Program of the 82ndAnnual Meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists

http://physanth.org/annual-meeting/82nd-annual-meeting-2013/aapa-meeting-program-2013

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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Damn those albino liars. At least we have Mike to point them out.

How true!

You may bow if you wish. [Roll Eyes]

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^Now then - What DID happen 4,000 years ago to change the tranquil lives of the peaceful industrious and brilliant Black people in Europe like these:

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Grave of the Neolithic Rössen Culture from Halberstadt, Germany (female, 30–35 years).


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INVASION OF THE ALBINOS FROM CENTRAL ASIA!

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" people sweeping out from Turkey colonized Europe, likely as a part of the agricultural revolution, reaching Germany about 7,500 years ago"

"about 5,000 to 4,000 years ago, the genetic profile changes radically, suggesting that some mysterious event led to a huge turnover in the population that made up Europe. The Bell Beaker culture, which emerged from the Iberian Peninsula around 2800 B.C., may have played a role in this genetic turnover"


So Mike Iberian whites killed off Turkish blacks in 2500+ BC (4500 years ago) ?

And these Turkish blacks had killed off somebody earlier when they colonized Germany 5,500 BC (7,500 years ago) ?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Now then - What DID happen 4,000 years ago to change the tranquil lives of the peaceful industrious and brilliant Black people in Europe like these:



Grave of the Neolithic Rössen Culture from Halberstadt, Germany (female, 30–35 years).


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INVASION OF THE ALBINOS FROM CENTRAL ASIA!

quote:
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Clyde, While trying to track down the identity of this Black Hungarian king:

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^^^^ But Mike this guy is only from 725 years ago
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
NEWSSTORY:

Ancient Europeans mysteriously vanished 4,500 years ago Published April 23, 2013 - LiveScience

The genetic lineage of Europe mysteriously transformed about 4,500 years ago, new research suggests.


Quote: "We have established that the genetic foundations for modern Europe were only established in the Mid-Neolithic, after this major genetic transition around 4,000 years ago,"

Sooo....

I take it that all old lies, get thrown under the Bus.

THE EVOLUTION OF HUMAN SKIN AND SKIN COLOR

(Europeans turned White because of vitamin D)
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Nina G. Jablonski


AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGISTS MEETING
European Skin Turned Pale Only Recently, Gene Suggests.

Ann Gibbons


White Europeans 'only evolved 5,500 years ago after food habits changed'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1210056/White-Europeans-evolved-5-500-years-ago-food-habits-changed.html


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"At the American Association of Physical Anthropologists meeting, held here from 28 to 31 March, a new report on the evolution of a gene for skin color suggested that Europeans acquired pale skin quite recently, perhaps only 6000 to 12,000 years ago."

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Haplogroup NRY R, Indo-European migrations is what accounts for this monumental change. LMAO. Are these scientist really that ignorant or are the articles purposefully written like this to get media attention?
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There have been a huge variety of ideas of the location of the first speakers of Proto-Indo-European, few of which have survived scrutiny by academic specialists in Indo-European studies sufficiently well to be included in modern academic debate. The three remaining contenders are summarized here.

1) Kurgan Hypothesis
In the 20th century, Marija Gimbutas created the Kurgan hypothesis. The name is taken from the kurgans (burial mounds) of the Eurasian steppes. The hypothesis is that the Indo-Europeans were a nomadic tribe of the Pontic-Caspian steppe (now Eastern Ukraine and Southern Russia) and expanded in several waves during the 3rd millennium BC. Their expansion coincided with the taming of the horse. Leaving archaeological signs of their presence (see battle-axe people), they subjugated the peaceful European Neolithic farmers of Gimbutas' Old Europe. Gimbutas' beliefs evolved, she put increasing emphasis on the patriarchal, patrilinear nature of the invading culture, sharply contrasting it with the supposedly egalitarian, if not matrilinear culture of the invaded, to a point of formulating essentially feminist archaeology.

2) Anatolian Hypothesis
The Anatolian hypothesis is that the Indo-European languages spread peacefully into Europe from Asia Minor from around 7000 BCE with the advance of farming (wave of advance). The leading propagator of the theory is Colin Renfrew. The culture of the Indo-Europeans as inferred by linguistic reconstruction contradicts this theory, since early Neolithic cultures had neither the horse, nor the wheel, nor metal, terms for all of which are securely reconstructed for Proto-Indo-European. Renfrew dismisses this argument, comparing such reconstructions to the presence of the word "café" in all modern Romance languages not necessarily implying that the Ancient Romans had them too. Another counter-argument is the fact that ancient Anatolia is known to have been inhabited by non-Indo-European people, namely the Hattians, Khalib/Karub, and Khaldi/Kardi; though this does not preclude the possibility that the earliest Indo-European speakers may have been there too.
Using stochastic models of word evolution to study the presence or absence of different words across Indo-European languages, Gray and Atkinson suggest that the origin of Indo-European goes back about 8500 years, the first split being that of Hittite from the rest, supporting the Indo-Hittite hypothesis. They attempt to avoid one problem associated with traditional glottochronology – that of linguistic borrowing. However they inherit the main problems of glottochronology, including the lack of proof that languages have a steady rate of lexical replacement. Their calculations rely entirely on Swadesh lists, and while the results are quite robust for well attested branches, their crucial calculation of the age of Hittite rests on a 200–word Swadesh list of one single language. A more recent paper analyzing 24 mostly ancient languages, including three Anatolian languages, produced the same time estimates and early Anatolian split.These claims are still controversial, however, and most traditional linguists consider these methods too inaccurate to prove the Anatolian hypothesis


3) The Armenian hypothesis
The Armenian hypothesis is based on the Glottalic theory and suggests that the Proto-Indo-European language was spoken during the 4th millennium BCE in the Armenian Highland. It is an Indo-Hittite model and does not include the Anatolian languages in its scenario. The phonological peculiarities of PIE proposed in the Glottalic theory would be best preserved in the Armenian language and the Germanic languages, the former assuming the role of the dialect which remained in situ, implied to be particularly archaic in spite of its late attestation. Proto-Greek would be practically equivalent to Mycenean Greek and date to the 17th century BCE, closely associating Greek migration to Greece with the Indo-Aryan migration to India at about the same time (viz., Indo-European expansion at the transition to the Late Bronze Age, including the possibility of Indo-European Kassites). The Armenian hypothesis argues for the latest possible date of Proto-Indo-European (sans Anatolian), a full millennium later than the mainstream Kurgan hypothesis. In this, it figures as an opposite to the Anatolian hypothesis, in spite of the geographical proximity of the respective Urheimaten suggested, diverging from the time-frame suggested there by a full three millennia.

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Genetics

The rise of archaeogenetic evidence which uses genetic analysis to trace migration patterns also added new elements to the origins puzzle. In terms of genetics, the subclade R1a1a (R-M17 or R-M198) is the most commonly associated with Indo-European speakers. Most discussions purportedly of R1a origins are actually about the origins of the dominant R1a1a (R-M17 or R-M198) subclade. Data so far collected indicates that there are two widely separated areas of high frequency, one in Eastern Europe, around Poland and the Russian core, and the other in South Asia, around North India. The historical and prehistoric possible reasons for this are the subject of on-going discussion and attention amongst population geneticists and genetic genealogists, and are considered to be of potential interest to linguists and archaeologists also.

Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup R1a1, thought to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas, is associated with the Kurgan culture, or the "Indus Valley"[18] the Indo-European languages, as well as with the postglacial Ahrensburg culture which has been suggested to have spread the haplogroup originally. Alternatively, it has been suggested that R1a arrived in southern Scandinavia during the time of the Corded Ware culture.[20] The mutations that characterize haplogroup R1a occurred ~10,000 years bp. Its defining mutation (M17) occurred about 10,000 to 14,000 years ago. Ornella Semino et al. propose a postglacial spread of the R1a1 haplogroup from north of the Black Sea during the time of the Late Glacial Maximum, subsequently magnified by the expansion of the Kurgan culture into Europe and eastw

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quote:
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Haplogroup NRY R, Indo-European migrations is what accounts for this monumental change. LMAO. Are these scientist really that ignorant or are the articles purposefully written like this to get media attention?

" For the latest paper, the authors chose to focus on one of these groupings known as haplogroup H.

Haplogroup H dominates mtDNA variation in Europe. Today, more than 40% of Europeans belong to this genetic "clan", with frequencies much higher in the west of the continent than in the east.
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The DNA of "Beaker folk" resembled that of people from Spain and Portugal


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22252099

The team selected 39 human remains from the Mitelelbe Saale region of Germany, all of whom belonged to the "H" clan. This area has a very well preserved collection of human skeletons forming a continuous record of habitation across different archaeological cultures since Palaeolithic times.

The remains investigated here span 3,500 years of European prehistory, from the Early Neolithic to the Bronze Age.

Sequencing the mitochondrial genomes of these 39 remains revealed dynamic changes in DNA patterns over time. The team found that the genetic signatures of people from the Early Neolithic period were either rare or absent from modern populations.

And only about 19% of the Early Neolithic remains from Central Europe belonged to this genetic clan.

But, from the Middle Neolithic onwards, DNA patterns more closely resembled those of people living in the area today, pointing to a major - and previously unrecognised - population upheaval around 4,000 BC.

Co-author Prof Alan Cooper, from the University of Adelaide in Australia, said: "What is intriguing is that the genetic markers of this first pan-European culture, which was clearly very successful, were then suddenly replaced around 4,500 years ago, and we don't know why.

"Something major happened, and the hunt is now on to find out what that was."

Population growth and migration from western Europe may have driven up the frequency of people carrying haplogroup H.

Migrant wave
A significant contribution appears to have been made in the Late Neolithic, by populations linked to the so-called Bell Beaker archaeological culture. Sub-types of haplogroup H that are common today first appear with the Beaker people and the overall percentage of individuals belonging to the H clan jumps sharply at this time.

The origins of the "Beaker folk" are the subject of much debate. Despite having been excavated from the Mittelelbe Saale region of Germany, the Beaker individuals in this study showed close genetic similarities with people from modern Spain and Portugal.

Other remains belonging to the Late Neolithic Unetice culture attest to links with populations further east.

"We have established that the genetic foundations for modern Europe were only established in the Mid-Neolithic, after this major genetic transition around 4000 years ago," said co-author Dr Wolfgang Haak.

"This genetic diversity was then modified further by a series of incoming and expanding cultures from Iberia and Eastern Europe through the Late Neolithic."

Dr Spencer Wells, director of the Genographic Project, which was behind the study, commented: "Studies such as this on ancient remains serve as a valuable adjunct to the work we are doing with modern populations in the Genographic Project.

"While the DNA of people alive today can reveal the end result of their ancestors' ancient movements, to really understand the dynamics of how modern genetic patterns were created we need to study ancient material as well."

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^Not meaning to beat my own Drum:
But eight (8) years ago, when I first came on this forum, I correctly dated the arrival of the Albinos from Asia as 2,000 - 2,500 B.C.
For those bad with numbers that's 4000-4,500 years ago.

This was done without the aid of skeletal analysis or DNA.
It was done solely on the basis of historical analysis. Okay, maybe I am beating my drum.

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Missed out on this thread....

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Anyone has the full article? This may answer my question on hg-H...

I have been waiting on this.

Lioness? Seems like they are saying that the expansion was from Iberia circa 2000BC. There goes Achilli BS straight out the window.


quote:
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^HOW MANY LYING ALBINO AUTHORS DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE A BIG FAT LIE SEEM LIKE THE TRUTH???

The answer = 59:
Countum yourself: lamin or lioness better tell them

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n4/full/ncomms2656.html


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Read the full article today. Will post later. Bottomline. They stopped the comparison at the shores of Iberia. Wish they had included North Africa. They discredited Torrini's Refugia nonsense. I never believed it. Modern Europeans are new to Europe, entered Europe about 2000bc. They never said from where. It was NOT from the Near East. They said Iberia(2000bc).

I guess prior to that they were in the Atlantic Ocean. Ha!

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quote:
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Read the full article today. Will post later. Bottomline. They stopped the comparison at the shores of Iberia. Wish they had included North Africa. They discredited Torrini's Refugia nonsense. I never believed it. Modern Europeans are new to Europe, entered Europe about 2000bc. They never said from where. It was NOT from the Near East. They said Iberia(2000bc).

I guess prior to that they were in the Atlantic Ocean. Ha!

To the contrary if they were Iberian it corresponds to one of the refugia locations, the Franco-Cantabrian region (in northern Iberia)

xyyman people don't pop up out of nowhere 4500 years ago
( think about this)

This suggests a South Western Europe population ncestral to modern Europeans that went North and replaced Anatolians who had migrated into Germany 7500 years ago.
White Southerns, ironic


_from the article:
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To find out, Cooper and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which resides in the cells' energy-making structures and is passed on through the maternal line, from 37 skeletal remains from Germany and two from Italy; the skeletons belonged to humans who lived in several different cultures that flourished between 7,500 and 2,500 years ago. The team looked a DNA specifically from a certain genetic group, called haplogroup h, which is found widely throughout Europe but is less common in East and Central Asia.

The researchers found that the earliest farmers in Germany were closely related to Near Eastern and Anatolian people, suggesting that the agricultural revolution did indeed bring migrations of people into Europe who replaced early hunter-gatherers.

But that initial influx isn't a major part of Europe's genetic heritage today.

Instead, about 5,000 to 4,000 years ago, the genetic profile changes radically, suggesting that some mysterious event led to a huge turnover in the population that made up Europe.

The Bell Beaker culture, which emerged from the Iberian Peninsula around 2800 B.C., may have played a role in this genetic turnover. The culture, which may have been responsible for erecting some of the megaliths at Stonehenge, is named for its distinctive bell-shaped ceramics and its rich grave goods. The culture also played a role in the expansion of Celtic languages along the coast.

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Europeans with grave goods? I thought this was your expertise?

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Europeans with grave goods? I thought this was your expertise?

you're the skull
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^HOW MANY LYING ALBINO AUTHORS DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE A BIG FAT LIE SEEM LIKE THE TRUTH???

The answer = 59:
Countum yourself: lamin or lioness better tell them that if they had a million, we would still know better than to believe them.

(This is the actual article at Nature)


Nature Communications Article

Neolithic mitochondrial haplogroup H genomes and the genetic origins of Europeans

Paul Brotherton,
Wolfgang Haak,
Jennifer Templeton,
Guido Brandt,
Julien Soubrier,
Christina Jane Adler,
Stephen M. Richards,
Clio Der Sarkissian,
Robert Ganslmeier,
Susanne Friederich,
Veit Dresely,
Mannis van Oven,
Rosalie Kenyon,
Mark B. Van der Hoek,
Jonas Korlach,
Khai Luong,
Simon Y.W. Ho,
Lluis Quintana-Murci,
Doron M. Behar,
Harald Meller,
Kurt W. Alt,
Alan Cooper,
Syama Adhikarla,
Arun Kumar Ganesh Prasad,
Ramasamy Pitchappan,
Arun Varatharajan Santhakumari,
Elena Balanovska,
Oleg Balanovsky,
Jaume Bertranpetit,
David Comas,
Begoña Martínez-Cruz,
Marta Melé,
Andrew C. Clarke,
Elizabeth A. Matisoo-Smith,
Matthew C. Dulik,
Jill B. Gaieski,
Amanda C. Owings,
Theodore G. Schurr,
Miguel G. Vilar,
Angela Hobbs,
Himla Soodyall,
Asif Javed,
Laxmi Parida,
Daniel E. Platt,
Ajay K. Royyuru,
Li Jin,
Shilin Li,
Matthew E. Kaplan,
Nirav C. Merchant,
R John Mitchell,
Colin Renfrew,
Daniela R. Lacerda,
Fabrício R Santos,
David F. Soria Hernanz,
R Spencer Wells,
Pandikumar Swamikrishnan,
Chris Tyler-Smith,
Pedro Paulo Vieira
& Janet S. Ziegle

Abstract

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Haplogroup H dominates present-day Western European mitochondrial DNA variability (>40%), yet was less common (~19%) among Early Neolithic farmers (~5450 BC) and virtually absent in Mesolithic hunter-gatherers. Here we investigate this major component of the maternal population history of modern Europeans and sequence 39 complete haplogroup H mitochondrial genomes from ancient human remains. We then compare this ‘real-time’ genetic data with cultural changes taking place between the Early Neolithic (~5450 BC) and Bronze Age (~2200 BC) in Central Europe. Our results reveal that the current diversity and distribution of haplogroup H were largely established by the Mid Neolithic (~4000 BC), but with substantial genetic contributions from subsequent pan-European cultures such as the Bell Beakers expanding out of Iberia in the Late Neolithic (~2800 BC). Dated haplogroup H genomes allow us to reconstruct the recent evolutionary history of haplogroup H and reveal a mutation rate 45% higher than current estimates for human mitochondria.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n4/full/ncomms2656.html

It's getting odd indeed.


Ann Hum Genet.
pub 2009 May 20.
First genetic insight into Libyan Tuaregs: a maternal perspective.

http://www.pdfonline.com/convert-pdf-to-html/success.aspx?zip=DocStorage/2988add1fa534a4ba41ac93c890d6153/Tuareg.zip


the maternal genetic pool of the Libyan Tuaregs is characterized by a major "European" component shared with the Berbers that could be traced to the Iberian Peninsula, as well as a minor 'south Saharan' contribution possibly linked to both Eastern African and Near Eastern populations.

The European Component

A high fraction of HVS-I CRS sequences were present in the Libyan Tuareg sample (56%). Screening of the single Pleistocene hunter-gatherers to repopulate central and north- ern Europe (Torroni et al., 1998, 2001, 2006; Achilli et al., 2004; Loogvali¨ et al., 2004) at the same time as another pop- ulation movement is thought to have spread southward into northwest Africa (Achilli et al., 2005; Cherni et al., 2008; Coudray et al., 2009).


The South Saharan Component

Besides the European genetic component, a minor but more heterogeneous African component was observed in our sam- ples.


A remarkable genetic affinity with the Eastern African pop- ulations (particularly with the Beja) was observed for auto- somal markers by Cavalli-Sforza (Cavalli-Sforza et al., 1994). From an analysis of a sample of individuals from many Tu- areg populations in Western and Central Africa, he proposed that the Tuaregs originated through a population split from an ancestral pastoral group in the area between the Nile and the Red Sea in the middle Holocene. Despite some affinity with Eastern African mtDNA lineages, our data differ ap- parently from Cavalli-Sforza’s survey, as he found no close relationship with Berber groups.

This might suggest that the geographic connotation is particularly strong in the Tuaregs, so that groups from different areas are genetically different. This has been confirmed by mtDNA data from another Tuareg sample (Western Tuareg) (Watson et al., 1996).


It is worth noting the low haplotype diversity value of the south Saharan mtDNA pool, which pointed out that genetic drift affected this component in the Tuaregs as well as the European one. An early introduction of south Saharan lineages into the main European matrix could be plausible; however, the hypothesis that both mtDNA components were present in the same founder population cannot be ruled out.


Final Remarks

The mtDNA analysis helped to characterise the Libyan Tu- aregs as a mixed group in which two main components are present. A European component, marked by haplogroups H1 and V, is strongly predominant and is shared with some Berber groups and other north African populations as well. Also present is a typically south Saharan component that shows a genetic relationship with Eastern African populations.

The L2a1 and L0a1a lineages could be related to the movement of people from Eastern Africa approximately 15,000 years ago and subsequently via the Near East during pastoral move-ments. Additional studies are needed to collecmore data.

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African mtDNA gene-tree,

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
Ann Hum Genet.
pub 2009 May 20.
First genetic insight into Libyan Tuaregs: a maternal perspective.

Troll Patrol - I don't know how Genets fits into this, that study was lead by Claudio Ottoni, and it makes more sense if the entire study with it's terminology explained is read.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2009.00526.x/full#b1


As an example, "the European component" actually referrers to the Saami, who were known to inhabit more southerly areas before being pushed north by new arriving peoples. Not to White people who only arrived in Europe circa 2,000 B.C.

The study - Saami and Berbers—An Unexpected Mitochondrial DNA Link.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1199377/

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^ I posted the study because of the dates, they estimate Hg H older. The second post thereafter shows a gene-tree on mtDNA. Which puts Hg H in Africa.

If this new study puts Hg H in a more recent Neolithic time. How is it that older studies claim Europeans with Hg H to have entered Africa during the end of the Holocene?

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The study - Saami and Berbers—An Unexpected Mitochondrial DNA Link.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1199377/

Sigh;

Why do Albinos and their Mulattoes always want to take over the identities of original peoples?

These are certainly NOT Berbers:

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And these are certainly NOT Saami:


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This is probably closer to what the Saami might have looked like.


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Aww man Mike now you done went and let our secret out. I admit it We Whites aren't humans, we are actually aliens from the planet Zoron Lol. Seriously, when are you & your White people hating ilk going to stop trying to deny my people of our heritage, our homeland, our history, our identities, etc. According to you Whites aren't the original people/indigenous people to anywhere. BTW where's that genetic evidence linking Whites to the people of Central Asia Mike? I'm still waiting for it, surely you must have it, either provide said genetic & linguistics evidence, or admit you do lie & Whites are indigenous to Europe & you want our land,etc, or admit you don't know where we come from. Why the heck does it seem that Whites are the only race that nobody can agree on where we come from? I know you & your ilk hate Whites and want us gone but don't you think that we have a right to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland? Never mind I already know the answer to that. Not only do you try to deny us of our history, our heritage, our identities, our pride, our languages, but also our very ancestors. Now you're saying that European haplogroups aren't ours either. So Mike exactly which haplogroups do belong to us and how do you know they do?
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according to Mike broad nose white people are mulattos


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The Sammi have the least tropical limb ratios of any European

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^ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS
This is a Saami???


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You people really need to get a grip!

Note that these Children are SUNBURNT!

Albino are not native to ANYWHERE!

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The reason that you are EVERYWHERE:

Is that Albino females give it up to EVERYONE!


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So come-on Albinos, quit deluding yourselves, just because you can play "Dress-up" doesn't mean that you are the real thing.


These might indicate the progression to the modern people.


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Nordic Sami (Saami) people in Sapmi (Lapland) in front of two Lavvo Tents. Norway Sweden. Date 1900-1920


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quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Now you're saying that European haplogroups aren't ours either. So Mike exactly which haplogroups do belong to us and how do you know they do?

NO haplogroups belong to you exclusively, just as no haplogroups exclude you.

The reason for that is quite simple - EVERY RACE OR ETHNICITY produces it's own Albinos!

Europeans have a limited genetic signature because Europeans are comprised of mostly Indian Albinos.

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Mike you are the one who needs to get a grip you Whit people hating bigot fool. We White people ARE native to somewhere, we are native to Europe. At least you finally admit that you are attempting to deny Whites of our status as an indigenous people on this planet. Now tell me oh evil Whitey killer if Whites aren't native to anywhere on earth, then where exactly did we come from, we didn't just pop up out of nowhere, and don't try to feed me that bull crap Black racist albino bull.

Mike cut the crap & stop with the racist epithets already really little boy. How many times must you be told albino Negros are not part of my people, they are still NEGROS (Black), albino Mongols are NOT part of my people, they are still Mongols (Asians), albino East Indians are NOT part of my people they are still East Indians (non-Whites). Stop trying to force your's and every other races' albinos on us!

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Mike do you the above your people are genetically closer in type to you or to the average citizen of Scandianvia?

answer the question

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quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Mike you are the one who needs to get a grip you Whit people hating bigot fool. We White people ARE native to somewhere, we are native to Europe. At least you finally admit that you are attempting to deny Whites of our status as an indigenous people on this planet. Now tell me oh evil Whitey killer if Whites aren't native to anywhere on earth, then where exactly did we come from, we didn't just pop up out of nowhere, and don't try to feed me that bull crap Black racist albino bull.

Mike's theory falls apart quickly if you do the math.
He thinks small villages of Indian and Pakistani
people suddenly started producing tens of thousands of white people 1,200 years ago.
Idiotic

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Lioness,Lol you speak the truth. As to the Sami to me (I know you didn't ask me but I'll chime in anyhow) in the old pictures they look quite a bit like the Inuit & some look like Ugyhurs as well if you ask me.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:


[  -
^^^Grimaldi ?


The Sammi have the least tropical limb ratios of any European

This is not weird, the are the first group who entered North Europe, via Siberia. Basically all they ever knew is cold weather.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Mike's theory falls apart quickly if you do the math.

He thinks small villages of Indian and Pakistani
people suddenly started producing tens of thousands of white people 1,200 years ago.
Idiotic

Lioness, your lying and misrepresentations are an embarrassment to even hardened Albino liars.

Albinos Please pay close attention, I'm only going to explain this once!

Now then:

Most families with the Albino gene only have one Albino child for every 4 or 5 children. But Some families have many more:


Note that in this family 3 of the 5 children are Albinos.


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Now what INTELLIGENT Albinos do is quickly find a "Normal" person to mate with so that they do NOT produce Albino children.

See, that's what she did, and look, she produced a normal Mulatto child just like her husband - though as expected the child is paler than the father.

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BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T!!!!


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For those wondering:

Yes, both families are Indian.

And their ancestors were normal Brown/Black complected.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Now you're saying that European haplogroups aren't ours either. So Mike exactly which haplogroups do belong to us and how do you know they do?

NO haplogroups belong to you exclusively, just as no haplogroups exclude you.

The reason for that is quite simple - EVERY RACE OR ETHNICITY produces it's own Albinos!

Europeans have a limited genetic signature because Europeans are comprised of mostly Indian Albinos.

quote:


Though the Sámi do have some Asian genetic influence, at its highest rate it is only 20-30%, which is no higher than the European average. [7] So with a large amount of growing evidence, it seems that the Sámi came from somewhere much closer to their current home.

For many years, there was a common belief that the Sámi may have migrated from the east and have an Asian genetic background rather than a European one. For several hundred years, there was a belief that the Sámi and the Finns had a Mongoloid origin.

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/sami/dieda/hist/genetic.htm


Updating Phylogeny of Mitochondrial DNA Macrohaplogroup M in India: Dispersal of Modern Human in South Asian Corridor
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Therefore, C can be considered a clade with a Northeast Asian radiation [18]. Representatives of subhaplogroup Z extend from the Saami [4] and Russians [51] of west Eurasia to the people of the eastern peninsula of Kamchatka, the Russian Far East [52].
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0007447
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:


The Sammi have the least tropical limb ratios of any European

This is not weird, the are the first group who entered North Europe, via Siberia. Basically all they ever knew is cold weather.
Really Troll Patrol - I go to all that trouble to explain that those White people are NOT really Saami, and there you go ignoring it.

Okay then, maybe you'll believe this:


Geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza of Stanford University (1994) said that the Saame(Saami) were shown by genetic analysis to be 47.5% Mongoloid and 52.5% Caucasoid with a standard error of ± 4.9%.[24] Cavalli-Sforza said the Saami's Caucasoid side of their DNA came "probably from Scandinavia" while their Mongoloid side is of "Siberian origin".


See???

As I said, even the dark Saami are mulattoes!

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Mike pictures of Indian Albino is the proof that the white race was selectively breeded or created by black African and Indian.Then the black peoples mixed with the Albino to create the world different mulato people. The only race is the black race all other so call races are subset of the black race.

Envy is the reason that white/Albino people and mulato people stole the history of their black parents.The black civilisations of Egypt, Kush, Sumeria, Kanaan, Greece, Rome, Elam, Olmec, Shang, Harrapa etc cause white and mulato people to envy, be jealous and hate the black race.

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^Strong successful parents often produce weak, envious, vindictive children; because the children feel that they will never measure up. So some just give up, while others become accomplished cheaters, liars, thieves and murderers - guess which one Europeans chose.
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
This is not weird, the are the first group who entered North Europe, via Siberia. Basically all they ever knew is cold weather.

that's an outdated theory as your later post suggests

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Am J Hum Genet. 2004 April; 74(4): 661–682.
Published online 2004 March 11.
PMCID: PMC118194

The Western and Eastern Roots of the Saami—the Story of Genetic “Outliers” Told by Mitochondrial DNA and Y Chromosomes

Kristiina Tambets,1 Siiri Rootsi,1 Toomas Kivisild,1 Hel


It suggests that the large genetic separation of the Saami from other Europeans is best explained by assuming that the Saami are descendants of a narrow, distinctive subset of Europeans. In particular, no evidence of a significant directional gene flow from extant aboriginal Siberian populations into the haploid gene pools of the Saami was found.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181943/

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Mike's theory falls apart quickly if you do the math.

He thinks small villages of Indian and Pakistani
people suddenly started producing tens of thousands of white people 1,200 years ago.
Idiotic

Lioness, your lying and misrepresentations are an embarrassment to even hardened Albino liars.

Albinos Please pay close attention, I'm only going to explain this once!

Now then:

Most families with the Albino gene only have one Albino child for every 4 or 5 children. But Some families have many more:


Note that in this family 3 of the 5 children are Albinos.


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Now what INTELLIGENT Albinos do is quickly find a "Normal" person to mate with so that they do NOT produce Albino children.

See, that's what she did, and look, she produced a normal Mulatto child just like her husband - though as expected the child is paler than the father.

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BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T!!!!


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.

For those wondering:

Yes, both families are Indian.

And their ancestors were normal Brown/Black complected.

Mike you're a fvckin idiot. I mean this respectfully, let me explain

First of all the Brazillian woman story is a hoax. The husband is not shown. It was published in tabloid

Second we can look at rare all albino familes and see that even have ten such families they cannot have been making the hundreds of thousands of babies to take over Europe from 1200 years ago.
How many times have I told you you don't undedstand anything about demographics. Either that or you know you are lying through your teeth to decieve "Typical Negros"as ypu like to put it
You are a simplton. You see two things that look similar and say they are necessarily connected.

third kids have a tendency to look relatively similar in features to some degree in different cultures look at these adults. However when we look at adult Indian albinos such as the man below we find Mike is too dumb to distinguish him form the Nordic below him. Mike you are unqualified, Step aside toddler

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But fourth and foremost the genetics do not show Europeans are primarily descendants of Indians or Pakistanis

You fail four times. You are simply a low life liar and are ashamed of being of AFRICAN descent so every thread you create has the word "albino" in it 25 times. These people must be like gods to you

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^He,he,he:

Damn lioness, the above is a new low for even you!

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Lioness,

That is because Mike hates Whites, therefore he wants Whites to view our fair skin as being akin to a genetic disorder & as being a bad thing. Not only that but he only looks at the skin color neglecting to look at the features as well.


Mena7 you stupid Black racist punk, your people are not responsible for Ancient Greece or Rome both were founded by WHITES wether you accept it or not.

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Cass - are you there?

Lioness and Doxie are saying that all or most White guys look like this guy - something about his nose:


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Now as I recall, you don't look anything like his kid. So they're really saying that you AREN'T White!

Are you going to take that?

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Mike now who the heck said that? Stop trying to start crap between the only two White people here. Stinking Black men always trying to divide my White brothers from his White sisters. Anyhow nobody said Cass was not as he is White maybe not culturally (if he did betray his people by converting to Islam that is), but is of purely Non-Jewish purely euro descent. Mike I'm White and you've seen me, you know I don't look like that blond dude either. Not all Whites are blond Mike Cass isn't blond neither am I neither is any one in my family except two of my cousins, my paternal uncle, & two of my nieces. Heck Cass is probably Whiter & purer than my Euro mutt butt lol. Fact is Cass is White, I'm White, those East Indian Albinos however are NOT & don't even look remotely similar to a White. To prove your point Mike show me a pic of a White person with Negro features, a White with Asian features, show me a White with features similar to that East Indian Albino too. NO Albino pics Mike use real White (Euro) people.
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quote:
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[Stinking Black men always trying to divide my White brothers from his White sisters.

do you think Black men stink in general?
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The "Iceman" Oetiz found in the Italian Alps was dated as claimed to being 5,300 years old. His Y haplogroup was estimated to be G2a1b2 and K based on an inferred Mt DNA. The claim is that he was killed while hunting. His closest modern linkages are to Sardinia.

The question is how does Iceman fit into the sudden change of Euro DNA at about that time? Was it due to in situ mutation or population replacement.

A study of Iceman's stomach showed that he was an omnivore--eating both meat and plant grain. Tests showed that he was lactose intolerant. Northern Europeans are 85% lactose tolerant.

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
The "Iceman" Oetiz found in the Italian Alps was dated as claimed to being 5,300 years old. His Y haplogroup was estimated to be G2a1b2 and K based on an inferred Mt DNA. The claim is that he was killed while hunting. His closest modern linkages are to Sardinia.

The question is how does Iceman fit into the sudden change of Euro DNA at about that time? Was it due to in situ mutation or population replacement.

A study of Iceman's stomach showed that he was an omnivore--eating both meat and plant grain. Tests showed that he was lactose intolerant. Northern Europeans are 85% lactose tolerant.

he was Southern European not Northern

"Instead, about 5,000 to 4,000 years ago, the genetic profile changes radically, suggesting that some mysterious event led to a huge turnover in the population that made up Europe. The Bell Beaker culture, which emerged from the Iberian Peninsula around 2800 B.C., may have played a role in this genetic turnover. The culture, which may have been responsible for erecting some of the megaliths at Stonehenge, is named for its distinctive bell-shaped ceramics and its rich grave goods. The culture also played a role in the expansion of Celtic languages along the coast."

They had been in Southern Europe then round 2800 BC they went North into Central Europe

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quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
To prove your point Mike show me a pic of a White person with Negro features, a White with Asian features, show me a White with features similar to that East Indian Albino too. NO Albino pics Mike use real White (Euro) people.

Doxie Dear, there are only two types of Non-Black Europeans: the Pale, Redhead, White haired, Blonde haired pure or Almost pure Albino.

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AND THE SOMEWHAT COLORED - BLACK ADMIXED - EVERYONE ELSE!
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Ha,ha,ha,ha;

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