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Malevolent Dog picture LOL.The USA are cutting their import of Nigerian and African oil.The Nigerian governement is not happy.Nigerian oil import by the USA is down 25%.

The USA are planning to get energy self sufficient by 2017. The USA are exploiting the midwest oil and they are using fracking to exploit gas from water spring and rock shell.

The USA didnt cut their oil import from Saudi Arabia that is financing worlwide terrorism and Wahabism Islam.Nigeria need to develop their computer, software and high tech industry.They need a silicon valley of internet company.Nigeria is curently becoming an industrialise country. In the future they will consume large part of their oil production.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
[qb] This is schadenfreud photographed.

True face of Alsatian Dog M

, besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

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Korreck!
Come on man stop sniffing my leg.

You lost all credibility long ago when you said white folks were poor dodos in South Africa.... And when I posted how white folks REALLY live in South Africa you get all upset and want to claim that I am making stuff up and then start spouting fake race pride for Africans while at the same time DENYING the holocaust in Africa and saying white folks are Muurs and just like us........


http://www.steenberggolfclub.co.za/

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/sergiorgentile/5474664352/in/set-72157626129796390

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruslou/sets/72157594338080919/with/2201627886/

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruslou/2216332976/in/set-72157594338080919

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruslou/288428014/in/set-72157594338080919

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Black Africans
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/38776301@N07/3671655818/in/set-72157621362214890/

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/muaaustralia/3663842789/in/set-72157620563618501

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
[qb] This is schadenfreud photographed.

True face of Alsatian Dog M

, besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

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Korreck!
Come on man stop sniffing my leg.

You lost all credibility long ago when you said white folks were poor dodos in South Africa.... And when I posted how white folks REALLY live in South Africa you get all upset and want to claim that I am making stuff up and then start spouting fake race pride for Africans while at the same time DENYING the holocaust in Africa and saying white folks are Muurs and just like us........


....

Dog

Kikuyu and me caught you out several times spamming false propaganda. Shame on you. Are there white schools in Kenya? LOL!

We already told you, there are rich and poor in every nation, amongst every people.

There are hundreds of millions of materially wealthy black people taking advantage of the opportunities that open up daily. Africa is on the rise!

The only one who fails to see that is the malevolent Dog pretending to be sorry for black people. A myopic bytch who thinks that all Muurs come from the ghettos. Hypocrite.

Worse, just like Jay-hootie, you are not even a black man yet you are an expert in Black man's problem. LMAO!

Fuching malevolent dog! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
[qb] This is schadenfreud photographed.

True face of Alsatian Dog M

, besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

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Korreck!
Come on man stop sniffing my leg.

..... Come on man stop sniffing my leg.

You lost all credibility long ago when you said white folks were poor dodos in South Africa.... And when I posted how white folks REALLY live in South Africa you get all upset and want to claim that I am making stuff up and then start spouting fake race pride for Africans while at the same time DENYING the holocaust in Africa and saying white folks are Muurs and just like us.....



Muurish Science Teachings for Hungry Dog:

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The Moorish Science Temple attracted mostly Black Americans. Noble Drew however was no racist, though he held certain racial theories. Blacks, he said, are Moabites or Moors, and under this identity he taught pride to a race of oppressed sufferers. Moors are an "Asiatic Race" --but so are many others. For example, Noble Drew identified Celts as an Asiatic Race; later, when Whites of various sorts became interested in Moorish Science, he identified all such as "Persians," a sort of spiritual rather than factual identity. For Moorish Americans Morocco is a "promised land"; this shows the influence of Garveyite "Return" teachings, and provides an interesting link between Moorish Science and Rastafarianism. Moorish Orthodoxy (despite its name) gives all these teachings an esoteric significance. For us, "The Asiatic Nation of North America" includes all who embrace some form of the Oriental Wisdom, whatever their other affiliations, and "Morocco" signifies their goal, "illuminated" consciousness.

http://deoxy.org/moorish.htm



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Come on man you are spouting nonsense. Africa is on the rise! Yet the wealth gap in South Africa is as big as it has ever been.....

So I guess because there are rich and poor everywhere, black folks can't complain because the white "Muurs" never did anything wrong huh?

LOL! And the fact is that many black folks actually think like this.

So these black women and the white dude are all the same and one big happy family? They are all equal?
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/south-african-tourism/7293520356/

These people
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/gamtosie/8501443598/

And these people are all the same:
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/brettjones/5518117504/in/set-72157626249495124

This:
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/brettjones/5517508549/in/set-72157626249495124

Is the same as that:
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/b-s_r/4869721123/

You are a fake and a fraud but be that as it may, people need to see the truth and stop believing in nonsense. These people aren't brothers to anybody. They have no problem sitting there sipping up wine and having a good time while the NATIVES of that land who they robbed are starving right outside. Absolutely NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

But you talk that garbage about "noble" white Muurs.

Please.

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LMAO at this sick dog!

Dog those spam pictures will not assist you...lol!

You are a little pink ass boy pretending to be living on top of the world and lording it better than blacks and that is why I ama kicking your dirty ass.

A malevolent schadenfreude dog who wishes that black people will remain in the ghetto for your patronizing bytch ass.

That is why I have reduced you to meaningless untidy spamming that noone reads.

Truth is as clear as the day....

Malevolent and hungry cagot dog... trying inverse psychology ...

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Originally posted by IronLion:

This is schadenfreud photographed.

True face of Alsatian Dog M

, besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

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Korreck! [/qb][/QUOTE]

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Anyway. For sane folks that like the truth. Here is more of it.

Now here are WHITE folks speaking the truth:
quote:

To add fuel to this fire, the BBC recently aired a documentary on Glasenberg, Glencore and the tax quandary Ruschlikon is dealing with. The film opens with a black screen on which the question is written: "How much profit is fair?" This is followed with footage of the idyllic village with its pristine streets, houses and waterways.

"Ruschlikon, a tiny village on the outskirts of Zurich and one of the richest communities in Switzerland."

"Real estate prices are booming, unemployment is virtually non-existent, and social problems are few and rare," the voice continues. The documentary tells the story of how one of Ruschlikon’s five thousand or so inhabitants gave it a massive tax windfall. "However, Glencore's copper mines in Zambia don't generate similar tax windfalls for Zambians," the makers of the film state. "The country has the third largest copper reserves in the world, but 60% of the population live on less than $1 a day and 80% are unemployed."

Filmmaker Christoffer Guldbrandsen investigates what is described as "the dark heart of the tax system employed by multi-nationals" and asks very uncomfortable questions about contemporary poverty, those who get extraordinarily rich and those who remain desperately poor. He contrasts the wealthy municipality of Ruschlikon with Zambia, where – as noted – nearly two-thirds of the population lives on less than a dollar a day.
Guldbrandsen shows how Glencore, which controls over half of the world’s copper production, mines copper in Zambia, pays minimal wages in a country where unemployment is rife and then asks why Zambia gets such minor benefit while Glencore, Glasenberg and Rüschlikon grow richer every day.

The fact that Glencore taxes have made Rüschlikon so rich becomes darkly ironic when it is learned that the multinational was accused of evading taxes in Zambia. The charities received a leaked report which alleges Glencore increased costs in a mining operation in the copper-rich country between 2006 and 2008, as a means of tax avoidance. Glasenberg's company denied the charges, but this didn't stop the European Investment Bank freezing loans to the company because it had "serious concerns" about Glencore's corporate governance. Back in Zambia, this case, which involved Glencore's Mopani copper mines in that country, has become a rallying point for activists who believe the billions should be going to Zambian development.

In April last year, the BBC's Panorama reported that Glencor stood accused of "paying the associates of paramilitary killers in Colombia" and "profiting from child labour in a mine in the Congo". Glasenberg denied the allegations.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-02-06-ivan-glasenberg-obscure-billionaire-no-more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WNYemuiAOfU

But to hear some clowns tell it, Africans are just doing great and the white folks are poor and starving. And the vast parks and reserves full of beautiful nature and wildlife in Africa with NO AFRICANS is cool and awesome and great.

And the FUNNIEST PART in all of this is that the black South Africans allow themselves to be called racists by these clowns who have spent the last 500 years creating RACIAL APARTHEID and EUGENICS based societies all over the planet for their own profit and have NOT ONCE been punished. They shouldn't even have the courage to say such things, because not only is it offensive but it is so blatantly DUMB as to not even begin to make any sense. It is like calling a Jewish person a Nazi. Now nobody in their right mind would do such a thing because they FEAR what would happen to them, but shoot they aren't worried about the black folks doing anything and they say these things ALL DAY.

http://www.citypress.co.za/columnists/city-press-debate-are-we-strangers-in-a-strange-land-kay-sexwale/

Oh and back to the point on Zambia. WHO is exploiting the minerals? The WHITE folks. And listen to this black clown in the video say "we don't have time to stop (investors from stealing from Africans)". Doesn't that sound stupid? A black clown behind politician who says it is this NOT HIS JOB. So WHOSE JOB IS IT? Are you SERIOUSLY thinking that white folks who have spent the last 500 years getting rich stealing from black folks to feel bad and suddenly stop? And this is precisely the same DUMB AZZ attitude of ALL black politicians in ALL of Africa. Just wait for the white folks to turn around and stop stealing from you and give you some of your money back. And as we all see, it isn't happening.

And the black Africans don't even have electricity because there is no national grid. And what is a prime component of electrical wiring networks? You got it. COPPER.

quote:

Despite competition from other materials, copper remains the preferred electrical conductor in nearly all categories of electrical wiring with the major exception being overhead electric power transmission where aluminium is often preferred.[67][68] Copper wire is used in power generation, power transmission, power distribution, telecommunications, electronics circuitry, and countless types of electrical equipment.[69] Electrical wiring is the most important market for the copper industry.[70] This includes building wire, communications cable, power distribution cable, appliance wire, automotive wire and cable, and magnet wire. Roughly half of all copper mined is used to manufacture electrical wire and cable conductors.[71] Many electrical devices rely on copper wiring because of its multitude of inherent beneficial properties, such as its high electrical conductivity, tensile strength, ductility, creep (deformation) resistance, corrosion resistance, low thermal expansion, high thermal conductivity, solderability, and ease of installation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper
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Spamming malevolence, and fallacies of argument.

The Thread Opener is about Zambian Vice Presidency. About Guy Scott a man who walks like John Brown and Joe Slovo.

What is wrong in giving him respect?

The malevolent Doug uses it as an opportunity to patronize on "black folks" as losers ghetto dwellers. While he bigs up his cagotic tribe as all powerful, all rich all joyful. Ominipotent.

Hungry Dog it no go so. We have taught you Muurish science on this website for more than 8 years now but you only seem to sink into more schadenfreude and malevolence dark arts wizard casting evil spells.

Shut your fuk, Dog, shut your shyt-eating hole.

Stop waltzing and wzing around the subject. Your straw man's argument is simply another attempt to escape the reality.

One question you have been running away from:

Since white people are so much better off than black people, why is it that infinitely more white people commit suicide? Whereas only an infinitesimal number of black people commit suicide?

Why malevolent Dog, why? This is the key to all your wicked thoughts....suicide

Dog do you think of suicide like your cousins? Dog do you ever fantasize of hanging yourself.. be honest..

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
[qb] This is schadenfreud photographed.

True face of Alsatian Dog M

, besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

 -

Korreck!
Come on man stop sniffing my leg.

..... Come on man stop sniffing my leg.

You lost all credibility long ago when you said white folks were poor dodos in South Africa.... And when I posted how white folks REALLY live in South Africa you get all upset and want to claim that I am making stuff up and then start spouting fake race pride for Africans while at the same time DENYING the holocaust in Africa and saying white folks are Muurs and just like us.....



Muurish Science Teachings for Hungry Dog:

quote:
The Moorish Science Temple attracted mostly Black Americans. Noble Drew however was no racist, though he held certain racial theories. Blacks, he said, are Moabites or Moors, and under this identity he taught pride to a race of oppressed sufferers. Moors are an "Asiatic Race" --but so are many others. For example, Noble Drew identified Celts as an Asiatic Race; later, when Whites of various sorts became interested in Moorish Science, he identified all such as "Persians," a sort of spiritual rather than factual identity. For Moorish Americans Morocco is a "promised land"; this shows the influence of Garveyite "Return" teachings, and provides an interesting link between Moorish Science and Rastafarianism. Moorish Orthodoxy (despite its name) gives all these teachings an esoteric significance. For us, "The Asiatic Nation of North America" includes all who embrace some form of the Oriental Wisdom, whatever their other affiliations, and "Morocco" signifies their goal, "illuminated" consciousness.

http://deoxy.org/moorish.htm



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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] Anyway. For sane folks that like the truth. Here is more of it.

blah..blah..blah..

Back to Zambia...blah....blah..blah..


And the black Africans don't even have electricity because there is no national grid. And what is a prime component of electrical wiring networks? You got it. COPPER.

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Iron Lion exposes the malevolent lies of baleful hungry Dog M

Zambian National Grid:

http://www.erb.org.zm/downloads/gridcode/ZambianGridCode.pdf

https://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/zambia/index.shtml

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Read Muur: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zambian+electricity+grid&oq=zambian+electricity+grid&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.14091j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Sorry Dog, I just had to expose your nonsense again... [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] Anyway. For sane folks that like the truth. Here is more of it.

blah..blah..blah..


And the black Africans don't even have electricity because there is no national grid. And what is a prime component of electrical wiring networks? You got it. COPPER.

..

Iron Lion exposes the malevolent lies of baleful hungry Dog M

Zambian National Grid:

http://www.erb.org.zm/downloads/gridcode/ZambianGridCode.pdf

https://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/zambia/index.shtml

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Read Muur: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zambian+electricity+grid&oq=zambian+electricity+grid&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.14091j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Sorry Dog, I just had to expose your nonsense again... [Razz]

Dog

This is Lusaka the capital of Zambia. Regard and weep:

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Dog, this is the HQ of Zambia's telephone and communication giant, serving Africans:

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Malevolent Dog, this is Muurish Zambia, a Black African State:

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Cagot Dog, this is Lusaka Town Council. I am certain it will make you bark in agony:

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Dog, I will pay for your trip to Zambia and South Africa if you allow me. Maybe it will edify your animal-like comprehension abilities...

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quote:
Access to electricity (% of population) in Zambia
The Access to electricity (% of population) in Zambia was 18.80 in 2009, according to a World Bank report, published in 2010. Access to electricity is the percentage of population with access to electricity. Electrification data are collected from industry; national surveys and international sources.This page includes a historical data chart, news and forecasts for Access to electricity (% of population) in Zambia.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/zambia/access-to-electricity-percent-of-population-wb-data.html

quote:

The third public hearing on the proposal by the Zambia Electricity Supply Corporation (ZESCO) to review its tariffs has opened in Lusaka today.

The first two meetings were held in Livingstone and Kitwe.

Zesco Managing Director Cyprian Chitundu said during a presentation at the meeting that Zambia risks failing to meet her vision of being a middle income country by 2030 if electricity tariffs are not adjusted upwards.

Mr. Chitundu said the demand for electricity will rise to about 2,389 mega watts (MW) by 2015 thereby creating a deficit of about 540 mega watts if the tariffs were not adjusted upwards.

He also said without a tariff increase, there will be more load shedding, unreliable supply, restricted investment and derailment of development projects in the country

He restated that the quantity of electricity in the country was not sufficient to meet the demand noting that there was currently a shortfall of 165 mega watts between 18:00hrs and 20:00hrs.

Mr. Chitundu said the current domestic peak hour demand doesn’t meet the capacity because the country has changed a lot economically since the time of independence.
He said the solution to the electricity shortage would lay in the company’s plans to construct more power stations through investing about US$3.7 billion on assets and infrastructure this year and $26.4 billion in the next five years.

Mr. Chitundu said about 75 percent of the Zambian population has no access to electricity.

He said it was the desire of the company to fulfill government’s plans to have the entire country connected to the national electricity grid by 2030.

But Zambia National Farmers Union (ZNFU) vice chairperson Evelyn Nguleka opposed the tariff hike saying the move will among other things push the inflation of the country.

Dr. Nguleka said farmers were the biggest users of electricity and an increase in their cost of production will be passed on to the ordinary Zambians.

She further said if approved, the electricity tariff increase will also hamper the capacity of the agriculture sector as most farmers will not be able to export their produce.

http://www.zambianwatchdog.com/without-electricity-increase-there-will-be-more-load-shedding-chitundu/

So if there are all these kilowatts of electricity being generated in Zambia, who is getting access to it? I am quite sure that the whites in Zambia have access.

And we all know that IronLung is a liar since he claims that white folks in Africa are doing bad.... yeah doing bad in country club suburbs. Sure. Lets have sympathy for them.

So uhh lets see how white folks are doing in Zambia again shall we? I mean since some folks haven't learned anything:

Afrikaaners in Zambia
http://www.theroots.co.za/home-the-roots/babylicious-boutique
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But don't worry there are black folks there too...
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Hint: White supremacy is like a secret society.

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Liar!

I list your more outrageous lies below. They are a hint of your malevolent personality:

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
Anyway. For sane folks that like the truth. Here is more of it.

blah..blah..blah..

Back to Zambia...blah....blah..blah..


And the black Africans don't even have electricity because there is no national grid. And what is a prime component of electrical wiring networks? You got it. COPPER.

..

Iron Lion exposes the malevolent lies of baleful hungry Dog M

Zambian National Grid:

http://www.erb.org.zm/downloads/gridcode/ZambianGridCode.pdf

https://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/zambia/index.shtml

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Read Muur: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zambian+electricity+grid&oq=zambian+electricity+grid&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.14091j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Sorry Dog, I just had to expose your nonsense again... [Razz]

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] blah..blah..blah..

White school in Kenya (no one room shack here):
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So nice they had a recent presidential debate at this school....


http://www.brookhouse.ac.ke/
quote:

Brookhouse is a Round Square co-educational day and boarding school for children aged 2 – 19, offering an adapted form of the British National Curriculum to Kenyan and international pupils. ......


There are no white schools in Kenya. Kenya does not have an apartheid system. Kenya has been independent since 1962, practising a western style democracy.

Kenya has elite classses. But these are Black people, Black billoniares, Black President, Black Generals, Black Air Marshalls, and a Muurish Flag! Like every other country, there are also poor kenyans.

The elites Kenyans send their children to schools like Brookehouse. LOL! I went to such school myself because I won a scholarship not because I was elite (mind you).

Read your own quote again:

quote:
...Brookhouse is a Round Square co-educational day and boarding school for children aged 2 – 19, offering an adapted form of the British National Curriculum to KENYAN and international pupils.
Students of Brookhouse:

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https://www.google.ca/search?q=brookhouse&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=GIKbUcPwIcPE0gH00YCICg&biw=800&bih=399&sei=HYKbUe33D4XW0gHru4C4CA#imgrc=CAHDpED tu2wxJM%3A%3B0Hf_hS6kgQWBUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brookhouse.ac.ke%252Fimages%252Fphilo.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brookhouse.ac.ke%252FAbout.html%3B240%3B240

lmao at this chump... [Big Grin]



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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
Blah..blah..blah...


Afrikaaners in Zambia
http://www.theroots.co.za/home-the-roots/babylicious-boutique

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Hint: White supremacy is like a secret society.

Moor lies from Dog M. the malevolent:

1. There is only a negligible number of Afrikaners in Zambia. Afrikaners are mainly in South Africa because Dutch settled there. Zambia is all Black.

There is also a small population of English people there. Malevolent Dog, where in Zambia did you meet up with Afrikaners??? LMAO! [Big Grin]

2. There are no whites only school in Kenya.

3. And yes, Zambia and all of Africa have electricity grid.

Malevolent dog, you are a fuching illiterate without any basic knowledge of Africa except from what you see in google images.

Sorry.. if you care I will buy you a trip back to my continent to disabuse your wicked and evil, cagotic mind. [Big Grin] [Razz]

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Originally posted by IronLion:
This is schadenfreud photographed.

True face of Alsatian Dog M

, besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

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Korreck! [/qb][/QUOTE]
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Malevolent Dog

This is your future in South Africa. To the last man, you will all be fuched, in the end. Read:


Removal of Afrikaans 'destroying' whites: iLIVE
Bill Hollenbach by email | 01 March, 2012 12:31

The Voortrekker Monument, in Pretoria, a national heritage site - some asylum applicants have said they are targeted in South Africa because they are Afrikaners

The ANC government has now officially taken the Afrikaner Language away as an official language South Africa. This is the aim of the ANC, to totally obliterate the white minority that built this country, that they are doing their damndest to destroy.

This move is like banning English in Ireland, Scotland and Wales or American and reverting back to Sioux or Apache as the official languages.

Racism is the heart of the ANC and they will do anything to get the whites out of South Africa by 2014, for the forming of the Federated States of Southern Africa.

“Die, my beloved country, for those fathers and ancestors that gave their lives for YOUR freedom, now weep in their graves as the ANC hierarchy is raping the poor and enriching themselves through corruption, like the world has never seen.

Wake up world, South Africa is now faster becoming a dictatorship of the ANC, than that idiot Robert Mugabe, Adolph Hitler and Idi Amin did.

God help South Africa, we are now entering our death throws.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/ilive/2012/03/01/removal-of-afrikaans-destroying-whites-ilive

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
...

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Malevolent Dog

This is your future in South Africa. To the last man, you will all be fuched, in the end. Read:


Removal of Afrikaans 'destroying' whites: iLIVE
Bill Hollenbach by email | 01 March, 2012 12:31

The Voortrekker Monument, in Pretoria, a national heritage site - some asylum applicants have said they are targeted in South Africa because they are Afrikaners

The ANC government has now officially taken the Afrikaner Language away as an official language South Africa. This is the aim of the ANC, to totally obliterate the white minority that built this country, that they are doing their damndest to destroy.

This move is like banning English in Ireland, Scotland and Wales or American and reverting back to Sioux or Apache as the official languages.

Racism is the heart of the ANC and they will do anything to get the whites out of South Africa by 2014, for the forming of the Federated States of Southern Africa.

“Die, my beloved country, for those fathers and ancestors that gave their lives for YOUR freedom, now weep in their graves as the ANC hierarchy is raping the poor and enriching themselves through corruption, like the world has never seen.

Wake up world, South Africa is now faster becoming a dictatorship of the ANC, than that idiot Robert Mugabe, Adolph Hitler and Idi Amin did.

God help South Africa, we are now entering our death throws.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/ilive/2012/03/01/removal-of-afrikaans-destroying-whites-ilive

Make up your mind man. I thought you said before I was white hating blacks. Now you are saying I am black hating whites....

Wow dude. You need to fix your dyslexic bipolar disorder.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Liar!

I list your more outrageous lies below. They are a hint of your malevolent personality:

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
Anyway. For sane folks that like the truth. Here is more of it.

blah..blah..blah..

Back to Zambia...blah....blah..blah..


And the black Africans don't even have electricity because there is no national grid. And what is a prime component of electrical wiring networks? You got it. COPPER.

..

Iron Lion exposes the malevolent lies of baleful hungry Dog M

Zambian National Grid:

http://www.erb.org.zm/downloads/gridcode/ZambianGridCode.pdf

https://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/zambia/index.shtml

Read Muur: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zambian+electricity+grid&oq=zambian+electricity+grid&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.14091j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Sorry Dog, I just had to expose your nonsense again... [Razz]

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] blah..blah..blah..

White school in Kenya (no one room shack here):
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....

So nice they had a recent presidential debate at this school....


http://www.brookhouse.ac.ke/
quote:

Brookhouse is a Round Square co-educational day and boarding school for children aged 2 – 19, offering an adapted form of the British National Curriculum to Kenyan and international pupils. ......


There are no white schools in Kenya. Kenya does not have an apartheid system. Kenya has been independent since 1962, practising a western style democracy.

Kenya has elite classses. But these are Black people, Black billoniares, Black President, Black Generals, Black Air Marshalls, and a Muurish Flag! Like every other country, there are also poor kenyans.

The elites Kenyans send their children to schools like Brookehouse. LOL! I went to such school myself because I won a scholarship not because I was elite (mind you).

Read your own quote again:

quote:
...Brookhouse is a Round Square co-educational day and boarding school for children aged 2 – 19, offering an adapted form of the British National Curriculum to KENYAN and international pupils.
Students of Brookhouse:

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https://www.google.ca/search?q=brookhouse&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=GIKbUcPwIcPE0gH00YCICg&biw=800&bih=399&sei=HYKbUe33D4XW0gHru4C4CA#imgrc=CAHDpED tu2wxJM%3A%3B0Hf_hS6kgQWBUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brookhouse.ac.ke%252Fimages%252Fphilo.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brookhouse.ac.ke%252FAbout.html%3B240%3B240

lmao at this chump... [Big Grin]


LOL! Most Zambians don't have electricity. The ones that do are primarily the white plantation owners.... but to hear you tell it these whites are living in poverty.

And that school in Kenya is run by whites, even if blacks go there and there are a lot of white students there. It does not represent the education system for the majority of Kenyans.

And of course here are more of your poor whites in SA:
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/hennie_rautenbach/2154776089/

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/hennie_rautenbach/3781928740/in/set-72157621922745170
(not a black person in sight).

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightnotions/7726440870/sizes/l/in/set-72157630933143040/

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightnotions/7726443888/in/set-72157630933143040

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Continue to expose the truth, Doug.
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Liar!

I list your more outrageous lies below. They are a hint of your malevolent personality:

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
Anyway. For sane folks that like the truth. Here is more of it.

blah..blah..blah..

Back to Zambia...blah....blah..blah..


And the black Africans don't even have electricity because there is no national grid. And what is a prime component of electrical wiring networks? You got it. COPPER.

..

Iron Lion exposes the malevolent lies of baleful hungry Dog M

Zambian National Grid:

http://www.erb.org.zm/downloads/gridcode/ZambianGridCode.pdf

https://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/zambia/index.shtml

Read Muur: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zambian+electricity+grid&oq=zambian+electricity+grid&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62l2.14091j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Sorry Dog, I just had to expose your nonsense again... [Razz]

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] blah..blah..blah..

White school in Kenya (no one room shack here):
 -
....

So nice they had a recent presidential debate at this school....


http://www.brookhouse.ac.ke/
quote:

Brookhouse is a Round Square co-educational day and boarding school for children aged 2 – 19, offering an adapted form of the British National Curriculum to Kenyan and international pupils. ......


There are no white schools in Kenya. Kenya does not have an apartheid system. Kenya has been independent since 1962, practising a western style democracy.

Kenya has elite classses. But these are Black people, Black billoniares, Black President, Black Generals, Black Air Marshalls, and a Muurish Flag! Like every other country, there are also poor kenyans.

The elites Kenyans send their children to schools like Brookehouse. LOL! I went to such school myself because I won a scholarship not because I was elite (mind you).

Read your own quote again:

quote:
...Brookhouse is a Round Square co-educational day and boarding school for children aged 2 – 19, offering an adapted form of the British National Curriculum to KENYAN and international pupils.
Students of Brookhouse:

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https://www.google.ca/search?q=brookhouse&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=GIKbUcPwIcPE0gH00YCICg&biw=800&bih=399&sei=HYKbUe33D4XW0gHru4C4CA#imgrc=CAHDpED tu2wxJM%3A%3B0Hf_hS6kgQWBUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brookhouse.ac.ke%252Fimages%252Fphilo.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brookhouse.ac.ke%252FAbout.html%3B240%3B240

lmao at this chump... [Big Grin]


LOL! Most Zambians don't have electricity. The ones that do are primarily the white plantation owners.... but to hear you tell it these whites are living in poverty.

And that school in Kenya is run by whites, even if blacks go there and there are a lot of white students there. It does not represent the education system for the majority of Kenyans.

blah..blah..blah..

quote:
List of Power Stations in Zambia serving Urban and rural areas:

Kafue Gorge Power Stations, 900 MW
Kariba Dam North Power Station, 720 MW (upgrading to 1080 MW scheduled finished December 2012)
Victoria Falls Power Station, 108 MW
Four smaller hydropower stations: Lusiwasi (12MW), Musonda Falls (5MW), Chishimba Falls (6MW) and Lunzua (750KW).

Chump! Fuching liar! You are now back pedalling from your disgraceful lies.

But they are now permanent record of your ignorance and malevolence.

LOL! Keep on lying, we are here to get on exposing your malevolent ass.

Oh, you lying albino dog you..


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Originally posted by IronLion:
...

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[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
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quote:
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Continue to expose the truth, Doug.

Lol! The pornographic fantasies of pinkies...

You are the reason why, porn purveyors like Malevolent Dog and other such pimps are so popular in the west.

Ignorance, and schadenfreude... [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Continue to expose the truth, Doug.

You know the funny part is that negroes everywhere don't see that it is all the same system no matter where you go.
And to here them tell it "they" look like "us".
Who is "they"? And how are they like "us", when blacks don't own or control anything anywhere?
It is retardedly hilarous to hear black folks say "us" when they mean whites
or white nations where they don't have anything and aren't really part of anything.

The biggest enemy of black folks is willful purposeful ignorance. At the end of the day things could never have gotten
where they are today without Africans being PURPOSELY IGNORANT. Sure you expect white folks to fall in line with their own "culture"
but for black folks to defend it and remain stubbornly ignorant is downright traitorous.

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quote:
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[qb] ..... Most Zambians don't have electricity. The ones that do are primarily the white plantation owners.... but to hear you tell it these whites are living in poverty.

And that school in Kenya is run by whites, even if blacks go there and there are a lot of white students there.

It does not represent the education system for the majority of Kenyans.

Zambia produces so much electricity it exports power to 4 Muurish African country.

Dog read and get an education:

quote:
Lion says: Zambia exports power to several of its neighbours, however, only eighteen percent of the Zambian population have access to electricity. There are two major power entities in Zambia. ZESCO (Zambian Electricity Supply Company Ltd.) is the national authority and went up for privatisation in 1999. ZESCO generates power and is responsible for transmission and distribution.

The other power organisation is CAPC (Central African Power Corporation). CAPC is jointly owned by Zambia and Zimbabwe. The two countries share equally the costs and output of the corporation. CAPC exploits the hydro potential of the Kariba complex, which consists of the Kariba North and Kariba South power stations, Kariba dam and any future dams which may be constructed on the Zambezi river. Lake Kariba is the collection point for a vast catchment area spanning several millions of square kilometres. The Upper Catchment extends over the western half of Zambia and into Angola. The Lower Catchment covers a large part of Zimbabwe and is fed by the lake, Cahora Bassa in Mozambique. Lake Kariba itself is about 300 km long and the international boundary between Zambia and Zimbabwe runs down the middle of the lake. CAPC operates the dam and the two Kariba power stations. ZESCO is responsible for bulk sales in Zambia and for the cost of generation at Kafue and Victoria Falls power stations. The Zimbabwe Electricity Supply Authority (ZESA) is responsible for the costs of Bulawayo, Harare, Hwange and Munyati thermal power stations which link into the system.

CAPC operates a transmission system from Kariba connecting into both the Zambian and the Zimbabwe networks. The system consists of 330 kV overhead lines linking Kariba and is paid for by the two national utilities.

Zambia has an installed power capacity of 2500 MW, with 705 MW of this power coming from facilities at Kariba.

The Government has paid K3 billion towards the electrification of the Kaputa district of the country. 121community-based organisations and 9 schools in rural areas of Zambia will be getting BP Solar panels to generate electricity for lighting, radio, television and refrigeration. The panels will be supplied by Apex-BP Solar, a subsidiary of BP France, which has been awarded a contract through its distributor Electrical Maintenance Lusaka Limited (EML) by Zambia Social Investment Fund. Apex-BP Solar will supply, the solar panels, EML will deliver and install the panels and also train their users in various schools and health centres in Zambia. The project will produce a peak power of almost 250 kilowatts (kWp).

Zambia Social Investment Fund, a unit of the Ministry of Finance and National Planning, is managing a development credit agreement signed with the International Development Association (IDA). EML, which is based in Lusaka began its activities in 1964 and focused on electrical contracting services and maintenance. It has expanded over the years and employed at its peak a total staff of 600 employees active in various fields including the manufacture of electrical light fittings, domestic and security lighting, distribution boards and motor control centres. EML has succeeded in the last few years to become one of the major players in the solar industry in Zambia.

quote:
Lion says: List of Power Stations in Zambia serving Urban and rural areas:

Kafue Gorge Power Stations, 900 MW
Kariba Dam North Power Station, 720 MW (upgrading to 1080 MW scheduled finished December 2012)
Victoria Falls Power Station, 108 MW
Four smaller hydropower stations: Lusiwasi (12MW), Musonda Falls (5MW), Chishimba Falls (6MW) and Lunzua (750KW).

Sorry Dog the malevolent, did that hurt? [Big Grin]
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More "po white folks" in South Africa...

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/forecastle/7922254860/in/set-72157631386602438

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/forecastle/7922272416/in/set-72157631386602438

Where the black folks at:
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/forecastle/7922809762/in/set-72157631386602438

Aerial Shot:
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/mix_master_b/8397203823/

quote:

The Southern Suburbs are a group of suburbs in Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa. This group includes Rondebosch, Claremont, Plumstead, Ottery, Wynberg, Newlands, Constantia and Bishopscourt, and to some aspects Pinelands and Observatory too.

Cape Town's Southern Suburbs lie to the Southeast of the slopes of Table Mountain within rich valleys and vast plains reaching from just south of the Table Bay industrial neighbourhoods in the north to the False Bay coastal suburbs and the Cape Peninsula cliffs to the south, and are crossed North-South by the M5 and M3 motorways. In general this area is identified as being the more affluent of the Cape Town Metropolis' sections and includes the city's most expensive residential neighbourhoods.

The majority of the Southern Suburbs' just over 100,000 inhabitants (as of 2001) is White English-speaking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Suburbs,_Cape_Town

quote:

The Cape Flats is an expansive, low-lying, flat area situated to the southeast of the central business district of Cape Town. Described by some as 'Apartheid's dumping ground', from the 1950s the area became home to people the apartheid government designated as non-White. Race-based legislation such as the Group Areas Act and pass laws either forced non-white people out of more central urban areas designated for white people and into government-built townships in the Flats, or made living in the area illegal, forcing many people designated as Black into informal settlements elsewhere in the Flats.

The Flats have since then been home to much of the population of Greater Cape Town, and most of the residents in the area are of African descent. This area includes the neighbourhoods of Mitchell's Plain, Gugulethu, Nyanga, and Khayelitsha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Town

But anyway. Obviously the whites aren't poor or down in out in South Africa or anywhere else in Africa for that matter. The ONLY people down and out are the blacks and WE ALL KNOW WHY. And the reason is that they have bought into a lie and fairy tale and refuse to build anything for themselves, as opposed to pretending the white system is going to provide for them as a community, when it isn't.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by SEEKING:
Continue to expose the truth, Doug.

You know the funny part is that negroes everywhere don't see that it is all the same system no matter where you go.
And to here them tell it "they" look like "us".
Who is "they"? And how are they like "us", when blacks don't own or control anything anywhere?
It is retardedly hilarous to hear black folks say "us" when they mean whites
or white nations where they don't have anything and aren't really part of anything.

The biggest enemy of black folks is willful purposeful ignorance. At the end of the day things could never have gotten
where they are today without Africans being PURPOSELY IGNORANT. Sure you expect white folks to fall in line with their own "culture"
but for black folks to defend it and remain stubbornly ignorant is downright traitorous.

The greatest threat to Black people all over is liberal so-called whites like yourself trying to convince us that we are poor and wretched, when we know we are rich and beloved.

The greatest threat to black people is wizards like yourself coming on line to cast your pale-pink wicked spells of malevolence on Africa, with your infernal Afro-pessimisms, and your insistent lies and your feigned concern. Fiyah bun your pink ass!

The greatest insult to me as a Muur, is for a sick ass white boi like you, an unemployed cagot on social assistance, to conjure up pornographic images of African poverty in order to justify your meaningless existence in the west and make yourself feel better.

Cagot, it has all changed. And it changed overnight.

Despite your pretentious wicked and malevolent visions, Africa is on the rise!

The Muurs and back on the top again... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
More "po white folks" in South Africa...

blah..blah..blah..

More irrelevant dogging.

OP is on ZAMBIA.

Do you still insist that Zambia has no national electricity grid?

Do you still claim that all black Zambians have no electricity?

Do you still claim that Zambia is a plantation economy?

Malevolent Doug, you are nothing but an ignorant picture spamming white boi, trying to use inverse psychology to insult black people.

If you want to talk South Africa, open another thread and I will murder you like I am doing here!

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How many white people are there in Zambia?

Dog the malevolent has told the world that Zambia runs a plantation economy where its people only slave for white people who lord it over them. White people like Guy Scott [who in truth is just a mascot used by the Zambian political system].

Let's see those mythical white slave masters of Zambia.

Doug the malevolent, I hope you are taking note:


quote:
Zambia

At the brink of the country's independence in 1964, there were roughly 70,000 Europeans (mostly British) in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia before independence), making up roughly 2.3% of the 3 million inhabitants at the time.[27] Zambia had a different situation compared to other African countries. It included segregation, similar to South Africa, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) and South-West Africa (Namibia); but as the Europeans constituted a smaller fraction of the population they did not dominate politics. There were a few cities in Northern Rhodesia that had British place names, but all except one (Livingstone) were changed when the country became independent or soon after.

.....


When Zambia became independent in 1964, the majority of white settlers left for Rhodesia , just by crossing the border. An almost identical town of Victoria Falls lies on the other side, and benefited from the white people's crafts and abilities. This enabled them to improve the situation on the white-controlled Rhodesian side, and therefore Livingstone soon became desolate and unused. However, since the economic problems in Zimbabwe since the start of the 21st century, the situation has very much turned around as the Zambian side has become more attractive to tourists and therefore Livingstone is once again improving (at the expense of Victoria Falls).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Africans_of_European_ancestry#Zambia


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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] ..... Most Zambians don't have electricity. The ones that do are primarily the white plantation owners.... but to hear you tell it these whites are living in poverty.

And that school in Kenya is run by whites, even if blacks go there and there are a lot of white students there.

It does not represent the education system for the majority of Kenyans.

Zambia produces so much electricity it exports power to 4 Muurish African country.

Dog read and get an education:

quote:
Lion says: Zambia exports power to several of its neighbours, however, only eighteen percent of the Zambian population have access to electricity. There are two major power entities in Zambia. ZESCO (Zambian Electricity Supply Company Ltd.) is the national authority and went up for privatisation in 1999. ZESCO generates power and is responsible for transmission and distribution.

The other power organisation is CAPC (Central African Power Corporation). CAPC is jointly owned by Zambia and Zimbabwe. The two countries share equally the costs and output of the corporation. CAPC exploits the hydro potential of the Kariba complex, which consists of the Kariba North and Kariba South power stations, Kariba dam and any future dams which may be constructed on the Zambezi river. Lake Kariba is the collection point for a vast catchment area spanning several millions of square kilometres. The Upper Catchment extends over the western half of Zambia and into Angola. The Lower Catchment covers a large part of Zimbabwe and is fed by the lake, Cahora Bassa in Mozambique. Lake Kariba itself is about 300 km long and the international boundary between Zambia and Zimbabwe runs down the middle of the lake. CAPC operates the dam and the two Kariba power stations. ZESCO is responsible for bulk sales in Zambia and for the cost of generation at Kafue and Victoria Falls power stations. The Zimbabwe Electricity Supply Authority (ZESA) is responsible for the costs of Bulawayo, Harare, Hwange and Munyati thermal power stations which link into the system.

CAPC operates a transmission system from Kariba connecting into both the Zambian and the Zimbabwe networks. The system consists of 330 kV overhead lines linking Kariba and is paid for by the two national utilities.

Zambia has an installed power capacity of 2500 MW, with 705 MW of this power coming from facilities at Kariba.

The Government has paid K3 billion towards the electrification of the Kaputa district of the country. 121community-based organisations and 9 schools in rural areas of Zambia will be getting BP Solar panels to generate electricity for lighting, radio, television and refrigeration. The panels will be supplied by Apex-BP Solar, a subsidiary of BP France, which has been awarded a contract through its distributor Electrical Maintenance Lusaka Limited (EML) by Zambia Social Investment Fund. Apex-BP Solar will supply, the solar panels, EML will deliver and install the panels and also train their users in various schools and health centres in Zambia. The project will produce a peak power of almost 250 kilowatts (kWp).

Zambia Social Investment Fund, a unit of the Ministry of Finance and National Planning, is managing a development credit agreement signed with the International Development Association (IDA). EML, which is based in Lusaka began its activities in 1964 and focused on electrical contracting services and maintenance. It has expanded over the years and employed at its peak a total staff of 600 employees active in various fields including the manufacture of electrical light fittings, domestic and security lighting, distribution boards and motor control centres. EML has succeeded in the last few years to become one of the major players in the solar industry in Zambia.

quote:
Lion says: List of Power Stations in Zambia serving Urban and rural areas:

Kafue Gorge Power Stations, 900 MW
Kariba Dam North Power Station, 720 MW (upgrading to 1080 MW scheduled finished December 2012)
Victoria Falls Power Station, 108 MW
Four smaller hydropower stations: Lusiwasi (12MW), Musonda Falls (5MW), Chishimba Falls (6MW) and Lunzua (750KW).

Sorry Dog the malevolent, did that hurt?

It hurt laughing so hard at you. Do you read your own posts:
quote:
Lion says: Zambia exports power to several of its neighbours, however, only eighteen percent of the Zambian population have access to electricity.
So yeah.... they are exporting the electricity and not providing it to their own people. And let me guess, you are going to say that the electricity is being consumed by Africans.... lol

quote:

nergy fuels economic development and the evidence is before our eyes every day. Businesses require a steady supply of energy to produce goods and services. Electricity allows school children to study after sunset and hospitals need it to save lives Insufficient or irregular energy supply is associated with significant economic cost for businesses and households. Lack of access to clean energy also creates a myriad of health and environmental hazards, such as indoor pollution from cooking on traditional open-fire stoves and deforestation.

Unfortunately, affordable access to clean energy remains an elusive dream for most Tanzanians, especially those living outside of urban centers and the poor:

Only 14 percent of the Tanzanian population has access to electricity in 2010.
Rural areas are virtually disconnected from the national electrical grid: Only three percent of people living in rural villages use electricity, while 95 percent use firewood for cooking.
Access to electricity is almost zero for the two poorest quintiles of households even in urban areas.
Annual electric power consumption stands at less than 90 kilowatt-hours per capita, just enough to power one light bulb per person for three hours every day.
Over the past decade, Tanzania has increased access to electricity at a rate of less than one percentage point per year. At this rate, it would take well into the 22nd century to achieve universal electrification.
When managers of firms are asked directly about the most serious problems they face in conducting business, electricity comes out as their number one concern. Almost 75 percent of Tanzanian enterprises consider routine load shedding and power outages as the most serious constraint to doing business, while another 15 percent mention it as a significant problem.

Of course, there are a number of reasons why progress in improving access to electricity has been slow. Expanding the electric grid to remote rural areas requires significant upfront capital investments and public subsidies, which often conflict with funding to other well-needed public services and investments, such as education, health and road infrastructure. An increase in power access also requires substantial investments along the production chain and in the transmission to firms and households. Technical choices are not always obvious since technologies and opportunities evolve over time, such as the recent discovery of new on-shore and off-shore gas reserves. Policymakers have to make a series of strategic decisions within and between sectors, which naturally involve trade-offs and in many cases uncertain economic benefits. And finally, governance also plays an important role in this sector, where less than perfect public utilities often operate as monopolies.

http://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/only-14-of-tanzanians-have-electricity-what-can-be-done

I certainly don't expect the world bank to do anything to fix this situation but you sit here and argue facts so here are the facts.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
More "po white folks" in South Africa...

blah..blah..blah..

More irrelevant dogging.

OP is on ZAMBIA.

Do you still insist that Zambia has no national electricity grid?

Do you still claim that all black Zambians have no electricity?

Do you still claim that Zambia is a plantation economy?

Malevolent Doug, you are nothing but an ignorant picture spamming white boi, trying to use inverse psychology to insult black people.

If you want to talk South Africa, open another thread and I will murder you like I am doing here!

If only 14% of Zambians have access to electricity how does that constitute a NATIONAL grid? Do you know what a national grid means?

It means a grid covering the entire nation and most of the population. So by ANY definition there is no "national grid" in Zambia or most of Africa for that matter. MOST AFRICANS do not have access to electricity because there is no true national grid. The only grid that exists is to supply power to the major industries, primarily mines and farms, which are primarily NOT owned by blacks.

LOL!

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
More "po white folks" in South Africa...

blah..blah..blah..

More irrelevant dogging.

OP is on ZAMBIA.

Do you still insist that Zambia has no national electricity grid?

Do you still claim that all black Zambians have no electricity?

Do you still claim that Zambia is a plantation economy?

Malevolent Doug, you are nothing but an ignorant picture spamming white boi, trying to use inverse psychology to insult black people.

If you want to talk South Africa, open another thread and I will murder you like I am doing here!

If only 14% of Zambians have access to electricity how does that constitute a NATIONAL grid? Do you know what a national grid means?

It means a grid covering the entire nation and most of the population. So by ANY definition there is no "national grid" in Zambia or most of Africa for that matter. MOST AFRICANS do not have access to electricity because there is no true national grid. The only grid that exists is to supply power to the major industries, primarily mines and farms, which are primarily NOT owned by blacks.

LOL!

Meaning of National Grid:

quote:
A National Grid is a power or energy supply system for a nation. They are called this because the network of supply lines from various generating or storage sources forms a grid in a mathematical sense, as there is usually more than one supply line to most points (or grid nodes).

......................

National grids do not necessarily cover the entire country, especially in poorer or less populated areas.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_National_Grid

Dog, white people don't own the electricity in Zambia. Who owns the Electricity Company of Zambia: The Zambian people, the state of Zambia.

quote:
Zambia Electricity Supply Corporation Limited (ZESCO) is a state-owned power company in Zambia. It is the Zambian the largest power company producing about 80% of the electricity consumed in the country. ZESCO represents Zambia in the Southern African Power Pool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZESCO

Dog you are an ignorant so-called white boi! [Big Grin]


The grid used by the Zambian government to supply electricity to its people is the national grid.

There is no requirement that it must traverse the entire nation before it is called a national grid.

That is your white boi twist, you pale dog! [Razz]

Earlier you declared that only whites and their companies had electricity in Zambia.

Now you have been reduced to hot airs about the percentage of rural Black Zambians with access to the National Grid.

Pink Dog, India, a major industrial power has serious problems with connecting its rural population.

Close to 87% of India's rural population have no power, does that mean India is now colonized and enslaved by white people?

Same situation in Brazil, China, and many parts of Eastern Europe.

Those are called Developing Countries. Nothing mysterious in that. Developing countries will develop!


Your other issue was that we Africans were fools to deal with men like Guy Scott, a white man raised up in Zambia.

India is being ruled by an Italian woman today, Sonia Ghandi, are they fools?

How dare you cry false crocodile tears about how whites were lording it over Zambians, when there are no whites (strictly speaking) in Zambia?

And how black Zambians were all slaves, had no ..to none existent white Zambians.

It is no secret that Africa is a developing continent, a youthful continent.

What is evil about you is your wicked spells against Africans, against our leaders, against our future prospect, like an evil wizard, sending malevolent wishes on a people who did nothing to him.

But you have failed miserably.

You and the other multiple names you registered which you use to support your self in hard times like this.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

LMBAO @ this chump!

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MUURISH electrical lessons about Zambia:

Projects in Development

As a result of such concerted State efforts, he said, several companies were now active in the hydropower subsector, with various private-sector led projects at various stages of development.

These included the 105 MW Lunsemfa Hydro Power Company project, the 247 MW Lunzua Power Authority project, the 40 MW CEC project and the 750 MW Kafue Gorge Lower hydropower plant development.

All hydropower operations currently under development were to come on-stream by 2018.

Hibajene, however, conceded that some negative investor sentiment had emerged following the implementation of the legislation, in May last, which ordered that all transactions with foreign companies be prepared using the local currency, the Zambian kwacha.

The majority of the existing private and public sector agreements had been signed using the dollar as reference.

Negotiations were currently under way between government and industry to revisit the contentious legislation, which Hibajene said had resulted in project delays and investor reticence.

“We are hopeful that there will be a general exemption for all infrastructure projects, and we think that the Minister of Finance is beginning to see our point,” he concluded.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/investment-in-zambia-power-generation-critical-for-continued-growth-2013-04-10

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
More "po white folks" in South Africa...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
[QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M:
[qb] More "po white folks" in South Africa...

blah..blah..blah..

More irrelevant dogging.

OP is on ZAMBIA.

Do you still insist that Zambia has no national electricity grid?

Do you still claim that all black Zambians have no electricity?

Do you still claim that Zambia is a plantation economy?

Malevolent Doug, you are nothing but an ignorant picture spamming white boi, trying to use inverse psychology to insult black people.

If you want to talk South Africa, open another thread and I will murder you like I am doing here!

If only 14% of Zambians have access to electricity how does that constitute a NATIONAL grid? Do you know what a national grid means?

It means a grid covering the entire nation and most of the population. So by ANY definition there is no "national grid" in Zambia or most of Africa for that matter. MOST AFRICANS do not have access to electricity because there is no true national grid. The only grid that exists is to supply power to the major industries, primarily mines and farms, which are primarily NOT owned by blacks.

LOL!

Meaning of National Grid:

quote:
A National Grid is a power or energy supply system for a nation. They are called this because the network of supply lines from various generating or storage sources forms a grid in a mathematical sense, as there is usually more than one supply line to most points (or grid nodes).

......................

National grids do not necessarily cover the entire country, especially in poorer or less populated areas.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_National_Grid

Dog, white people don't own the electricity in Zambia. Who owns the Electricity Company of Zambia: The Zambian people, the state of Zambia.

quote:
Zambia Electricity Supply Corporation Limited (ZESCO) is a state-owned power company in Zambia. It is the Zambian the largest power company producing about 80% of the electricity consumed in the country. ZESCO represents Zambia in the Southern African Power Pool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZESCO

Dog you are an ignorant so-called white boi! [Big Grin]


The grid used by the Zambian government to supply electricity to its people is the national grid.

There is no requirement that it must traverse the entire nation before it is called a national grid.

That is your white boi twist, you pale dog! [Razz]

Earlier you declared that only whites and their companies had electricity in Zambia.

Now you have been reduced to hot airs about the percentage of rural Black Zambians with access to the National Grid.

Pink Dog, India, a major industrial power has serious problems with connecting its rural population.

Close to 87% of India's rural population have no power, does that mean India is now colonized and enslaved by white people?

Same situation in Brazil, China, and many parts of Eastern Europe.

Those are called Developing Countries. Nothing mysterious in that. Developing countries will develop!


Your other issue was that we Africans were fools to deal with men like Guy Scott, a white man raised up in Zambia.

India is being ruled by an Italian woman today, Sonia Ghandi, are they fools?

How dare you cry false crocodile tears about how whites were lording it over Zambians, when there are no whites (strictly speaking) in Zambia?

And how black Zambians were all slaves, had no ..to none existent white Zambians.

It is no secret that Africa is a developing continent, a youthful continent.

What is evil about you is your wicked spells against Africans, against our leaders, against our future prospect, like an evil wizard, sending malevolent wishes on a people who did nothing to him.

But you have failed miserably.

You and the other multiple names you registered which you use to support your self in hard times like this.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

LMBAO @ this chump!

Come on man. You are seriously deluded:

http://2012.riverrunfilm.com/films/tobacco-king

http://www.fringillalodge.com/index.htm

http://www.farmersweekly.co.za/article.aspx?id=35175&h=Ceres-fruit-farmer%E2%80%99s-journey-to-success

quote:

For many Chinese entrepreneurs, Africa is seen as a continent of opportunity. Now even small businessmen are arriving in force - and some local traders in Zambia just cannot compete.

If you want to get an idea of how China is reshaping the world economy just try to buy a chicken in the Zambian capital, Lusaka.

The city's main market is hot, humid and very, very busy.

As you push your way through the crowds, the hawkers and traders will shout and cajole, offering you almost every product imaginable.

You will probably not see a single non-African there. Until, that is, you get to where the chickens are sold.

Here you will see a row of trucks piled high with cages, each packed with plump white chickens all fussing and squawking.

The African shoppers will be weighing the birds in their hands and looking their prospective purchases in the eye.

In the background you might spot the owners of the trucks - Chinese men and women holding wads of money and making sure things go smoothly.

These people are chicken farmers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/9386678.stm

Zambian farmers:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8582353.stm

quote:

It cannot be disputed that Zimbabwe was once a glorious country under the leadership of President Robert Mugabe. The country was among the giants of development in the world. It has also been a vehicle for development in many developing countries such as South Africa, China, India and developed countries such as Britain, the US, Canada to mention just a few, through the country.s mineral and human resources.
Today, Zambia is considered an agricultural country with agricultural products being exported to many parts of the African continent if not the whole world. Yet a decade or so ago Zambia was a struggling importer of agricultural products. Zambia and many other countries relied heavily on Zimbabwe for food and other materials. Zimbabwe unwittingly promoted Zambia to the position of agricultural products exporter when our Zimbabwean white farmers were booted out of the country.


Uganda under Idi Amin expelled all the Asians out of the country. It goes without saying that countries near and around Uganda benefited from the skills of Asians. Like Uganda, Zimbabwe has been struggling for the past decade to feed its ever growing population.


Why should we struggle to feed ourselves when we are a super agricultural country?


Our leaders are too proud to admit failure in their policies towards our commercial farmers. It is true that the indigenous people needed land but did we solve that problem by commercial farm invasions? Many Zimbabweans could have been settled on these farms if the government had done the exercise correctly. However this was not done.

I am not saying that white farmers are better than our black farmers but they were better established and had worked our virgin land into productive farms. Zimbabwean black farmers would have learnt a lot if the white farmers were asked to help them. No one is disputing our need for land distribution but expelling commercial farmers the way we did was like throwing away the baby together with the bath water.


Commercial farmers may not be as vindictive as many people fear. With a genuine accord and a promise of no hindrance, commercial farmers are willing to forgive and begin to develop Zimbabwe to its past glory.

http://www.thestandard.co.zw/2012/08/12/govt-must-bring-back-white-farmers/

quote:

canning the trampled patch of farmland where wheat should be growing. "Wildlife are a big headache here," he says, kneeling down and running his fingers over the crops crushed by the African cousin of our own red deer.

"Down on another farm of ours, we have elephants breaking the electric fence. It's on an old elephant trail, so of course they don't know, but they broke half a kilometre recently. Then the buffaloes came in, about 50, so we had to call the wildlife service because it.s illegal to shoot them."


To the average Irish farmer, it might sound like an unusual complaint, but then Grogan (48) doesnt run your average Irish farm. His 200 million a year company Zambeef owns 50,000 hectares of land across Zambia, slaughtering 60,000 cattle and 3.5 million chickens a year, making it one of Africa.s largest agri-food businesses.

http://www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/011010/zambia___irish_beef_baron_francis_grogan.aspx

And that is just Agriculture. Maize, beef and tobacco are some of the largest crops and the biggest exporters/producers of these crops are guess who? NON African Zambians.

And as for copper, I already posted a video showing who runs that.

And this is where the electricity goes: the mines and the farms followed by the cities. And I already posted images of the white schools and towns in Zambia where whites live a suburban American lifestyle with electricity of course. But you will deny that as usual.

Keep in mind that Zambia was once part of Rhodesia and therefore the white farmers moving back and forth is nothing new. They have been doing it since the colony was set up. The only folks limited by the borders are the Africans themselves.

quote:

Ten years ago, James and Rita Chance were forced off their thriving tobacco, maize and cattle farm in Zimbabwe. Since then, they have made a success of tobacco farming in Zambia, which they now regard as their home. Heather Dugmore reports.

It.s 5am on what promises to be a hot, humid day on James and Rita Chance's 1.840ha tobacco farm, 25km from the town of Choma in southern Zambia. James discusses the day.s work with his Zambian farm manager, Claude Bukoka, and together they give instructions to the workers. These are mostly men and women who live on their own small-scale or subsistence farms on the neighbouring property, which is owned by the local chief. James employs between 80 and 120 staff, depending on the season.

http://www.farmersweekly.co.za/article.aspx?id=35175&h=Ceres-fruit-farmer%E2%80%99s-journey-to-success

http://www.farmersweekly.co.za/default.aspx

Here is the center of farming in Zambia: Mkushi.

Here is one of the main attractions of the year in Mkushi, the M Festival:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNH__YaZC0U

Images of Mkushi Country club:
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Some of your so-called MUURISH brethren.... LOL!
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mkushi-Country-Club/141923239156836

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AtpDcRmBMg

quote:

The vision unfolding across the Mkushi plain in Zambia is at odds with the doleful imagery of modern Africa to which we have become accustomed.

Three hours from the capital Lusaka the wheat crop glows under the tropical sun. A combine harvester moves methodically across one portion of a vast field. Nearby a giant sprinkler irrigates the soya bean crop.

One might as easily be standing on the plains of the American Mid-West or among the grain fields of the Ukraine.

These are fields of plenty, a productive Africa that challenges the narrative of conflict and hunger that so dominates our idea of the continent.

"If we just increased the yields to 80% of world averages, Africa would become a net exporter of food. We believe that Africa can feed itself and the rest of the world too," Dabney Tonelli of Chayton Africa, the British-owned company that manages the 25,000 acre farm at Mkushi, says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/9623031.stm

This last story brings it all together: World Bank, Zimbabwean white farmers (settlers), American technology and of course black slaves. Sure looks like a hand full of white folks enslaving Africans to me. As a MATTER OF FACT the history of colonization in Africa was the story of a hand full of white folks enslaving a whole continent of blacks. Who the heck do you think you are kidding? I mean whites were ALWAYS a minority in their African colonies. For example, South Africa.

Africans been in Africa how many thousands of years? And you mean to tell me white folks, Asians and other foreigners get "LAND RIGHTS" before the Africans? That is the main reason Africans are poor and it is because THEIR TRAITOROUS @SS governments work for foreigners. They "hold the land" what the hell is that? You mean to tell me you don't give DEED AND TITLE to the NATIVES of the land? Why not? It is theirs isn't it? And this is neo-colonialism at its best. No land rights for the population therefore they cannot get loans, cannot have large commercial farms and cannot have a REAL ECONOMY because nobody recognizes them as being part of the economy except as peasant workers.

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More irrelevant spamming, off point and a useless distraction.

Point on the table is that you lied.

You claimed Zambia had no electricity.

We proved you lied.

You claimed Kenya had only white school.

We proved you lied.

The rest is fluff and puffery

Here lying white boy: Read the history so far:

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
More "po white folks" in South Africa...

blah..blah..blah..

More irrelevant dogging.

OP is on ZAMBIA.

Do you still insist that Zambia has no national electricity grid?

Do you still claim that all black Zambians have no electricity?

Do you still claim that Zambia is a plantation economy?

Malevolent Doug, you are nothing but an ignorant picture spamming white boi, trying to use inverse psychology to insult black people.

If you want to talk South Africa, open another thread and I will murder you like I am doing here!

If only 14% of Zambians have access to electricity how does that constitute a NATIONAL grid? Do you know what a national grid means?

It means a grid covering the entire nation and most of the population. So by ANY definition there is no "national grid" in Zambia or most of Africa for that matter. MOST AFRICANS do not have access to electricity because there is no true national grid. The only grid that exists is to supply power to the major industries, primarily mines and farms, which are primarily NOT owned by blacks.

LOL!

Meaning of National Grid:

quote:
A National Grid is a power or energy supply system for a nation. They are called this because the network of supply lines from various generating or storage sources forms a grid in a mathematical sense, as there is usually more than one supply line to most points (or grid nodes).

......................

National grids do not necessarily cover the entire country, especially in poorer or less populated areas.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_National_Grid

Dog, white people don't own the electricity in Zambia. Who owns the Electricity Company of Zambia: The Zambian people, the state of Zambia.

quote:
Zambia Electricity Supply Corporation Limited (ZESCO) is a state-owned power company in Zambia. It is the Zambian the largest power company producing about 80% of the electricity consumed in the country. ZESCO represents Zambia in the Southern African Power Pool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZESCO

Dog you are an ignorant so-called white boi! [Big Grin]


you have failed miserably.

You and the other multiple names you registered which you use to support your self in hard times like this.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

LMBAO @ this chump!



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Dog you stinky liar, Mkushi is not the CENTER of Zambia's agriculture. Post a citation besides your weak lies proving your claims.

Also, being the liar you are, when you cut and pasted the article about Mkushi from the BBC worldnews, you conveniently edited this part.

I hereby reproduce it for all well wishers of Africa:

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quote:
Hired Zimbabwean expertise

White farmers who were driven off their land in Zimbabwe have been hired to run the Chayton operation, bringing with them the intensive farming skills they have honed over decades.

The farm manager at Mkushi, Stuart Kearns, became a full-time farmer as a teenager after his father was killed in the Bush War in what was then Rhodesia. Despite his experiences in Zimbabwe he is optimistic about the future of farming in Zambia:

"There is huge potential here and I think the thing with Africa is that you have to keep trying again and again. That is something you learn when you grow up here."

Chayton promises to "create jobs, introduce sustainable farming methods… provide support and training to small-scale farmers".

Zambia's vice-president Dr Guy Scott voiced concern about job losses

But there are considerable obstacles - poor infrastructure and bureaucracy stand in the way of Zambia becoming a major exporter of food to the continent. At the moment Chayton is only producing for the local market.

And in an interview with Newsnight, the country's new vice-president, Dr Guy Scott, a farmer himself, was sceptical of some of the claims made by the company:

"I am very sceptical because I've been around a lot and I know what proposals look like and what justifications look like in the investment game and I would say that 90% of what is promised turns out not to be true… not necessarily because of any venality or any deliberate fraud.

"I mean people hope for the best. They hope it is going to work. And the government hopes it is going to work. And we all get each others hopes up. And then you find 'oh dear we didn't actually succeed in having the social impact or economic impact we'd hoped for'."

Displacement fears

Dr Scott worries about the social impact of job losses due to more intensive farming where machines take the place of people:

Local small-scale farmers complain about problems securing capital

"I think the main problem is that the population for Zambia is that the population is about four times too big for the economy. And I think that is the danger with large scale intensive farming; it tends to be capital intensive, it tends not to create jobs and at the same time tends to displace people who are unemployed from their fallback position which is to be subsistence farmers."

Chayton acknowledge that their modernised farming methods have already led to job losses, but insist that as the business grows it will create employment in spin-off businesses:

"Yes, over time some of the less skilled work goes as a result of mechanisation, but we are building a large scale business so over time we are creating other jobs," Ms Tonelli says.

"What we are able to do is train people to do highly skilled jobs which they can continue to use in a career in agriculture of transfer to other sectors as well."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/9623031.stm


Sorry baleful dog, sorry! Did that hurt? [Big Grin]

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True face of Alsatian Dog M.

Besides malevolence there are days when you are just simply hungry, hungry for the so-called "good life" of pinks:

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According to Doug the malevolent, these are black people:

quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
blah...blah..blah...

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Lets hear what the white folks have to say bout it:
http://www.greatnorthroad.org/bboard/archived/2004_01_Jan.php

South Africa Whites in bare hardship...

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Children walk through a squatter camp for poor white South Africans at Coronation Park in Krugersdorp, March 6, 2010.

http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2010/03/26/hardship-deepens-for-south-africas-poor-whites/

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Muurz to come...

Reposted... [Razz]
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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Poor whites of Zimbabwe

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/zimbabwe-whites-flown-bac_n_211858.html

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South Africa

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http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-01-10-recruitment-advice-to-malema-start-with-poor-whites/#.UYb25rXvs5o

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Hehe..my albino "muurish" fambily... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
....blah...blah...blah

This last story brings it all together: World Bank, Zimbabwean white farmers (settlers), American technology and of course black slaves. Sure looks like a hand full of white folks enslaving Africans to me. As a MATTER OF FACT the history of colonization in Africa was the story of a hand full of white folks enslaving a whole continent of blacks. Who the heck do you think you are kidding? I mean whites were ALWAYS a minority in their African colonies. For example, South Africa.

Africans been in Africa how many thousands of years? And you mean to tell me white folks, Asians and other foreigners get "LAND RIGHTS" before the Africans? That is the main reason Africans are poor and it is because THEIR TRAITOROUS @SS governments work for foreigners. They "hold the land" what the hell is that? You mean to tell me you don't give DEED AND TITLE to the NATIVES of the land? Why not? It is theirs isn't it? And this is neo-colonialism at its best. No land rights for the population therefore they cannot get loans, cannot have large commercial farms and cannot have a REAL ECONOMY because nobody recognizes them as being part of the economy except as peasant workers.

Dog, Zambia has a liberal economy and land can be leased for agriculture by any person of means for between 14 years and 90 years.

This can be renewed.

Dog Zambia is different from Zimbabwe. There were no major land seizures in Zambia by albinos.

By 1964 albinos all fled Zambia following the liberation.

Zambia was a frontline state during the struggles to free Zimbabwe and South Africa.

Zambia could be low income, it could be poorly managed, but it is a revolutionary African state, where there is virtually no existent albino political class.

And of course in a cosmopolitan Zambia, like a cosmopolitan America, different people are welcome to contribute economically.

Diversity is strenght.

You for example live on dole in England. Not everyone has to be successful, so people like you are permitted to live on social assistance. Diversity at work... [Razz]

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Doug the malevolent dog claims Zambians are slaves in Zambia.

Well, let's examine this claim.

Who rules Zambia?

Zambian parliament:

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Zambian Chief Justice

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Zambian President

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Sorry, Dog the malevolent liar.

Did that hurt??? [Big Grin]

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Nice summery, now explain neocolonialism and imperialism by Europe!
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
Nice summery, now explain neocolonialism and imperialism by Europe! [/QB]

Don't worry about it the Chinese will correct it
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Update to this situation in South Africa:

Interview with Eugene Kasrils, leader of the ANC's armed wing before the end of apartheid and intelligence service after.
quote:

It was a dire error on my part to focus on my own responsibilities and leave the economic issues to the ANC's experts. However, at the time, most of us never quite knew what was happening with the top-level economic discussions. As s Sampie Terreblanche has revealed in his critique, Lost in Transformation, by late 1993 big business strategies – hatched in 1991 at the mining mogul Harry Oppenheimer's Johannesburg residence – were crystallizing in secret late-night discussions at the Development Bank of South Africa. Present were South Africa's mineral and energy leaders, the bosses of US and British companies with a presence in South Africa – and young ANC economists schooled in western economics. They were reporting to Mandela, and were either outwitted or frightened into submission by hints of the dire consequences for South Africa should an ANC government prevail with what were considered ruinous economic policies.

All means to eradicate poverty, which was Mandela's and the ANC's sworn promise to the "poorest of the poor," were lost in the process. Nationalisation of the mines and heights of the economy as envisaged by the Freedom charter was abandoned. The ANC accepted responsibility for a vast apartheid-era debt, which should have been cancelled. A wealth tax on the super-rich to fund developmental projects was set aside, and domestic and international corporations, enriched by apartheid, were excused from any financial reparations. Extremely tight budgetary obligations were instituted that would tie the hands of any future governments; obligations to implement a free-trade policy and abolish all forms of tariff protection in keeping with neo-liberal free trade fundamentals were accepted. Big corporations were allowed to shift their main listings abroad. In Terreblanche's opinion, these ANC concessions constituted "treacherous decisions that [will] haunt South Africa for generations to come."

An ANC-Communist party leadership eager to assume political office (myself no less than others) readily accepted this devil's pact, only to be damned in the process. It has bequeathed an economy so tied in to the neoliberal global formula and market fundamentalism that there is very little room to alleviate the plight of most of our people.

Little wonder that their patience is running out; that their anguished protests increase as they wrestle with deteriorating conditions of life; that those in power have no solutions. The scraps are left go to the emergent black elite; corruption has taken root as the greedy and ambitious fight like dogs over a bone.

In South Africa in 2008 the poorest 50% received only 7.8% of total income. While 83% of white South Africans were among the top 20% of income receivers in 2008, only 11% of our black population were. These statistics conceal unmitigated human suffering. Little wonder that the country has seen such an enormous rise in civil protest.

A descent into darkness must be curtailed. I do not believe the ANC alliance is beyond hope. There are countless good people in the ranks. But a revitalization and renewal from top to bottom is urgently required. The ANC's soul needs to be restored; its traditional values and culture of service reinstated. The pact with the devil needs to be broken.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/how-ancs-faustian-pact-sold-out-south-africas-poorest

quote:

NEW YORK—What is it that makes a rebel? Why does one willingly step outside society to destroy a system of power, break the law and risk persecution and even death for an ideal? As the state calcifies into corporate totalitarianism, as prominent rebels such as Julian Assange, Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden are defamed by a bankrupt media and political class and hunted down as criminals, as change through the established mechanisms of reform becomes impossible, as systems of power invert morality to silence and imprison the just, we are going to have to ask hard questions about what we are willing to endure to make a better world. For if we do not rebel, if we do not actively defy corporate power, we will steadily be herded like captive animals into pens where we will be watched, controlled, abused, exploited and finally cast aside when our bodies and our minds are deemed superfluous by the corporate state. It is not enough to interpret the world. We must change it.

Rebels at the inception of struggle are vilified. They are few in number. They are ostracized by the wider society. They are left to brood in shadows where the organs of state security track and hunt them like prey. These rebels of history must become our tutors. To discuss the nature of rebellion, I recently met with Ronnie Kasrils, who was a leader of the armed wing of the African National Congress when the group was fighting South Africa's government and who from 2004 to 2008 was minister for intelligence services in the ANC government.

Kasrils, white, middle class and Jewish, turned his back on his race and his class to join the African National Congress as a 22-year-old in 1960. A year later he became a member of the South African Communist Party. He was a founding member, along with Nelson Mandela, of Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK), or Spear of the Nation, the armed wing of the ANC. He served as the commander of the Natal Regional Command and underwent military training in 1964 in Odessa, in the Soviet Union. As a leader in the MK, Kasrils carried out sabotage and bombings of state infrastructure and industrial sites. Although a 1983 MK guerrilla attack left 19 civilians dead and a 1986 raid killed three civilians and injured 73 others, Kasrils points out that overall only a small number of whites died in the struggle while tens of thousands of blacks were slaughtered by the apartheid state.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_eternal_rebel_ronnie_kasrils_20130623/
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^^Malicious Dog

Here is the real situation:

Eugene Kasrils was not a part of the ANC armed struggle and certainly not the head of the Um Kontho Sizwe the ANC armed wing.

The head of Umkotho was Mr Zuma the present president of South Africa.

Dog not only are you malicious, but you are a liar!

Fiyah fi ya pink pale hypocritical and malicious ass!

quote:
Barack Obama has paid tribute to Nelson Mandela during his visit to South Africa.

Out of deference to the ailing anti-apartheid leader’s peace and comfort there will be no hospital visit, according to the White House. There will be a private meeting with members of the Mandela family, “to offer their thoughts and prayers at this difficult time,” the statement added.

After wide-ranging bilateral talks in Pretoria with his South African counterpart Jacob Zuma, the US president said the fate of the man he calls his “personal hero” was key in his thoughts.

“The struggle here, against apartheid, for freedom, Madiba’s moral courage, this country’s historic transition to a free and democratic nation, has been a personal inspiration to me, an inspiration to the world and continues to be,” said Obama.

During the weekend Obama is scheduled to visit Robben Island where Mandela passed 18 of the 27 years he spent in apartheid prisons.

http://www.euronews.com/2013/06/29/obama-hails-mandela-s-inspiration-effect/

An image of the evil spirit of Malevolent dog:

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Theman's name Is Ronnie Kasrils not Eugene and it is a Guardian UK article he wrote himself not an interview.

wikipedia:

Ronald Kasrils (commonly known as Ronnie Kasrils) (born 15 November 1938) is a South African politician. He was Minister for Intelligence Services from 27 April 2004 to 25 September 2008. He was a member of the National Executive Committee (NEC) of the African National Congress (ANC) from 1987 to 2007 as well as a member of the Central Committee of the South African Communist Party (SACP) from December 1986 to 2007.

The Sharpeville massacre radicalised Kasrils against the Apartheid system and he joined the African National Congress (ANC) in 1960, becoming secretary of the Congress of Democrats in Natal in 1961, the same year he joined the South African Communist Party. In 1962, he received a five-year banning order prohibiting him from public speaking. He was a founding member of Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) as member of Natal Regional Command during the same year. He became the commander of Natal Regional Command in 1963. He underwent military training in 1964 in Odessa, USSR and at the end of 1965 was sent to London to work for the movement there. During this time Kasrils worked with Yusuf Dadoo, Joe Slovo and Jack Hodgson and they formed a special committee (1966–76) to develop underground activities in South Africa from the United Kingdom. During this time he trained various people including Raymond Suttner, Jeremy Cronin, Ahmed Timol, Alex Moumbaris, Tim Jenkins and Dave and Sue Rabkin, with the aim of establishing underground propaganda units in South Africa. He served the ANC and was based in London, Luanda, Maputo, Swaziland, Botswana and Lusaka. Kasrils eventually became a member of MK's High Command and was appointed as Chief of MK Intelligence in 1983.

Kasrils also served on the ANC's Politico-Military Council from 1985 to 1989 and worked underground for the ANC in South Africa during Operation Vula from 1990 to 1991. He went on to head the ANC's campaign section from 1991 to 1994.


"Whatever the drawbacks and failures I am convinced that in years to come humanity will look back to Soviet achievements as a source of profound inspiration"
--R. Kasrils, Armed and Dangerous.


http://mg.co.za/article/2013-06-21-00-now-we-pay-the-price-for-our-seduction

Now we pay the price for our seduction

^^^ this is his more recent June 21 2013 guardian article on the ANC

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Armed and Dangerous: My Undercover Struggle Against Apartheid 1993

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recent BBC article
and video (link at bottom)


Do white people have a future in South Africa?

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By John Simpson
World Affairs Editor, BBC News

Who is poor in South Africa?
Average annual black income in 2011: $2,300
Mixed-race (coloured): $4,300
Asian: $7.700
White: $17,500

Source: South African
Institute of Race Relations

Share of income in South Africa 1993 and 2008
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I went to a little town called Geluik -

Apartheid South Africa looked after white people and nobody else. Now some of its white communities face a level of deprivation, or of violence, which threatens their future in the country.

Everyone here, regardless of colour, tells you that white people are still riding high.

They run the economy. They have a disproportionate amount of influence in politics and the media. They still have the best houses and most of the best jobs.

All of this is true but it is not the only picture.

Look below the surface and you will find poverty and a sense of growing vulnerability.

The question I have come to South Africa to answer is whether white people genuinely have a future here.

The answer, as with so many similar existential questions, is "Yes - but…"
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It seems to me that only certain parts of the white community really have a genuine future here: the better-off, more adaptable parts.

Working-class white people, most of them Afrikaans-speakers, are going through an intense crisis. But you will not read about it in the newspapers or see it reported on television because their plight seems to be something arising out of South Africa's bad old past - a past which everyone, black and white, would like to forget.

According to one leading political activist, Mandla Nyaqela, this is the after-effect of the huge degree of selfishness and brutality which was shown towards the black population under apartheid.

"It is having its effect on whites today, even though they still own a share of South Africa's wealth which is entirely disproportionate," he said.

That may all be true. But the people who are suffering now are the weakest and most vulnerable members of the white community.

Ernst Roets, a leading Afrikaans campaigner from the AfriForum organisation, took me to a squatter camp outside the country's capital, Pretoria. A white squatter camp.

It has been set up on the property of a sympathetic white farmer and is called, optimistically, Sonskyn Hoekie - Sunshine Corner.

There are broken-down cars and bits of discarded furniture everywhere. Beyond the wooden shacks lie ditches and pools of dirty, stagnant water where mosquitoes breed. Two basic toilets serve the whole camp.

According to Roets there are 80 white squatter camps - many of them bigger than this - in the Pretoria area alone. Across South Africa as a whole he believes there could be as many as 400,000 poor whites in conditions like these.

Sonskyn Hoekie has no water and no electricity. The inhabitants live on two hand-out meals of maize porridge a day, which is provided by local volunteers. There is no social security for them, no lifeline - any more than there was for non-whites when apartheid ruled.

"I don't want to live in a place like this," said Frans de Jaeger, a former bricklayer, who with his beard and wrinkled face looks like one of the old Voortrekkers.

"But I can't get out."

His wife died suddenly of cancer a few years ago and it sent him into a downward spiral of binge drinking and destitution.

Semi-skilled white people have little chance of getting a job when so many black South Africans are unemployed.

There is another group of white Afrikaners, far higher up the social scale, who are deeply threatened - in this case, literally. Virtually every week the press here report the murders of white farmers, though you will not hear much about it in the media outside South Africa.

In South Africa you are twice as likely to be murdered if you are a white farmer than if you are a police officer - and the police here have a particularly dangerous life. The killings of farmers are often particularly brutal.

Ernst Roets's organisation has published the names of more than 2,000 people who have died over the last two decades. The government has so far been unwilling to make solving and preventing these murders a priority.
I went to a little town called Geluik - happiness. A few weeks ago gunmen burst into the farm shop there and opened fire, killing one farmer outright and injuring one of his sons and a shopworker.

They stole next to nothing. It seemed to be a deliberate, targeted killing. Soon afterwards the son died of his injuries.

Belinda van Nord, the daughter and sister of the men who died, told me how dangerous the lives of white people in the countryside have become. The police, she said, had seemed to show little interest in this case.

In the little graveyard where her father and brother are buried there are two other graves of farmers murdered recently. The wonderful landscape which surrounds it has become a killing ground.

There used to be 60,000 white farmers in South Africa. In 20 years that number has halved.

In the old days, the apartheid system looked after whites and did very little for anyone else. Nowadays white people here are on their own.

Those who fit in and succeed will certainly have a future. As for the rest, there are no guarantees whatsoever.

BBC News: The Editors features the BBC's on-air specialists asking questions which reveal deeper truths about their areas of expertise. It is available on the BBC iPlayer and is also on BBC World News.

VIDEO:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22551994

youtube version same video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUJ1AnMEwKg

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/24/anc-faustian-pact-mandela-fatal-error

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Ronnie Kasrils
The Guardian, Sunday 23 June 2013

How the ANC's Faustian pact sold out South Africa's poorest
In the early 1990s, we in the leadership of the ANC made a serious error. Our people still paying the price


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Lonmin mineworkers pay their respects to Mpuzeni Ngxande, one of the 34 miners killed by police on 16 August near the Marikana mine. 'The Sharpeville massacre in 1960 prompted me to join the ANC. I found Marikana even more distressing: a democratic South Africa was meant to end such barbarity.'


South Africa's young people today are known as the Born Free generation. They enjoy the dignity of being born into a democratic society with the right to vote and choose who will govern. But modern South Africa is not a perfect society. Full equality – social and economic – does not exist, and control of the country's wealth remains in the hands of a few, so new challenges and frustrations arise. Veterans of the anti-apartheid struggle like myself are frequently asked whether, in the light of such disappointment, the sacrifice was worth it. While my answer is yes, I must confess to grave misgivings: I believe we should be doing far better.

There have been impressive achievements since the attainment of freedom in 1994: in building houses, crèches, schools, roads and infrastructure; the provision of water and electricity to millions; free education and healthcare; increases in pensions and social grants; financial and banking stability; and slow but steady economic growth (until the 2008 crisis at any rate). These gains, however, have been offset by a breakdown in service delivery, resulting in violent protests by poor and marginalised communities; gross inadequacies and inequities in the education and health sectors; a ferocious rise in unemployment; endemic police brutality and torture; unseemly power struggles within the ruling party that have grown far worse since the ousting of Mbeki in 2008; an alarming tendency to secrecy and authoritarianism in government; the meddling with the judiciary; and threats to the media and freedom of expression. Even Nelson Mandela's privacy and dignity are violated for the sake of a cheap photo opportunity by the ANC's top echelon.

Most shameful and shocking of all, the events of Bloody Thursday – 16 August 2012 – when police massacred 34 striking miners at Marikana mine, owned by the London-based Lonmin company. The Sharpeville massacre in 1960 prompted me to join the ANC. I found Marikana even more distressing: a democratic South Africa was meant to bring an end to such barbarity. And yet the president and his ministers, locked into a culture of cover-up. Incredibly, the South African Communist party, my party of over 50 years, did not condemn the police either.

South Africa's liberation struggle reached a high point but not its zenith when we overcame apartheid rule. Back then, our hopes were high for our country given its modern industrial economy, strategic mineral resources (not only gold and diamonds), and a working class and organised trade union movement with a rich tradition of struggle. But that optimism overlooked the tenacity of the international capitalist system. From 1991 to 1996 the battle for the ANC's soul got under way, and was eventually lost to corporate power: we were entrapped by the neoliberal economy – or, as some today cry out, we "sold our people down the river".

What I call our Faustian moment came when we took an IMF loan on the eve of our first democratic election. That loan, with strings attached that precluded a radical economic agenda, was considered a necessary evil, as were concessions to keep negotiations on track and take delivery of the promised land for our people. Doubt had come to reign supreme: we believed, wrongly, there was no other option; that we had to be cautious, since by 1991 our once powerful ally, the Soviet union, bankrupted by the arms race, had collapsed. Inexcusably, we had lost faith in the ability of our own revolutionary masses to overcome all obstacles. Whatever the threats to isolate a radicalising South Africa, the world could not have done without our vast reserves of minerals. To lose our nerve was not necessary or inevitable. The ANC leadership needed to remain determined, united and free of corruption – and, above all, to hold on to its revolutionary will. Instead, we chickened out. The ANC leadership needed to remain true to its commitment of serving the people. This would have given it the hegemony it required not only over the entrenched capitalist class but over emergent elitists, many of whom would seek wealth through black economic empowerment, corrupt practices and selling political influence.

To break apartheid rule through negotiation, rather than a bloody civil war, seemed then an option too good to be ignored. However, at that time, the balance of power was with the ANC, and conditions were favourable for more radical change at the negotiating table than we ultimately accepted. It is by no means certain that the old order, apart from isolated rightist extremists, had the will or capability to resort to the bloody repression envisaged by Mandela's leadership. If we had held our nerve, we could have pressed forward without making the concessions we did.

It was a dire error on my part to focus on my own responsibilities and leave the economic issues to the ANC's experts. However, at the time, most of us never quite knew what was happening with the top-level economic discussions. As s Sampie Terreblanche has revealed in his critique, Lost in Transformation, by late 1993 big business strategies – hatched in 1991 at the mining mogul Harry Oppenheimer's Johannesburg residence – were crystallising in secret late-night discussions at the Development Bank of South Africa. Present were South Africa's mineral and energy leaders, the bosses of US and British companies with a presence in South Africa – and young ANC economists schooled in western economics. They were reporting to Mandela, and were either outwitted or frightened into submission by hints of the dire consequences for South Africa should an ANC government prevail with what were considered ruinous economic policies.

All means to eradicate poverty, which was Mandela's and the ANC's sworn promise to the "poorest of the poor", were lost in the process. Nationalisation of the mines and heights of the economy as envisaged by the Freedom charter was abandoned. The ANC accepted responsibility for a vast apartheid-era debt, which should have been cancelled. A wealth tax on the super-rich to fund developmental projects was set aside, and domestic and international corporations, enriched by apartheid, were excused from any financial reparations. Extremely tight budgetary obligations were instituted that would tie the hands of any future governments; obligations to implement a free-trade policy and abolish all forms of tariff protection in keeping with neo-liberal free trade fundamentals were accepted. Big corporations were allowed to shift their main listings abroad. In Terreblanche's opinion, these ANC concessions constituted "treacherous decisions that [will] haunt South Africa for generations to come".

An ANC-Communist party leadership eager to assume political office (myself no less than others) readily accepted this devil's pact, only to be damned in the process. It has bequeathed an economy so tied in to the neoliberal global formula and market fundamentalism that there is very little room to alleviate the plight of most of our people.

Little wonder that their patience is running out; that their anguished protests increase as they wrestle with deteriorating conditions of life; that those in power have no solutions. The scraps are left go to the emergent black elite; corruption has taken root as the greedy and ambitious fight like dogs over a bone.

In South Africa in 2008 the poorest 50% received only 7.8% of total income. While 83% of white South Africans were among the top 20% of income receivers in 2008, only 11% of our black population were. These statistics conceal unmitigated human suffering. Little wonder that the country has seen such an enormous rise in civil protest.

A descent into darkness must be curtailed. I do not believe the ANC alliance is beyond hope. There are countless good people in the ranks. But a revitalisation and renewal from top to bottom is urgently required. The ANC's soul needs to be restored; its traditional values and culture of service reinstated. The pact with the devil needs to be broken.

At present the impoverished majority do not see any hope other than the ruling party, although the ANC's ability to hold those allegiances is deteriorating. The effective parliamentary opposition reflects big business interests of various stripes, and while a strong parliamentary opposition is vital to keep the ANC on its toes, most voters want socialist policies, not measures inclined to serve big business interests, more privatisation and neoliberal economics.

This does not mean it is only up to the ANC, SACP and Cosatu to rescue the country from crises. There are countless patriots and comrades in existing and emerging organised formations who are vital to the process. Then there are the legal avenues and institutions such as the public protector's office and human rights commission that – including the ultimate appeal to the constitutional court – can test, expose and challenge injustice and the infringement of rights. The strategies and tactics of the grassroots – trade unions, civic and community organisations, women's and youth groups – signpost the way ahead with their non-violent and dignified but militant action.

The space and freedom to express one's views, won through decades of struggle, are available and need to be developed. We look to the Born Frees as the future torchbearers.

• This is an edited extract from the new introduction to his autobiography, Armed and Dangerous

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A quiet American epidemic
Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:13PM
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Marian Wright Edelman, Huffington Post


Thirteen-year-old Michael Graham, an eighth grader at Henry H. Wells Middle School in Brewster, New York, was popular with his classmates and played football, basketball, and lacrosse. But this year on January 14th, Michael committed suicide using a pistol he had found in his home. Michael’s father had three unregistered handguns in the house: a .40 caliber, a 9mm, and a .44 Magnum.

On February 5th, the grandmother of 15-year-old Steven Keele reported her grandson missing. She went to take a bath and came out to find him gone. Authorities found Steven the next day, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the edge of a field behind his grandmother’s home in Limestone County, Alabama. His grandmother doesn’t know where Steven got the gun.

On March 11th, a New Hampshire police chief left his service gun on top of the safe in his closet when he went to run some errands. It was there that his girlfriend’s son, 15-year-old Jacob Carver, found it. Later that day, Jacob shot himself in the stomach with the gun. Jacob was a freshman at Timberlane Regional High School where he was a member of the school’s football and freshman wrestling teams. He was remembered as “a goofball and a free spirit who had a great sense of humor and always made people laugh.”

To some people each of these boys probably seemed like any other teenager in their communities -- young people with ups and downs, but who should have had the rest of their lives ahead of them. No one but them might have been able to predict when those ups and downs would become too much. But when that moment came, Michael, Steven, and Jacob all sadly had something in common: access to a gun. Now all three are among this year’s child victims of a quiet but widespread American epidemic.

In 2010, 19,392 Americans, including 749 children and teenagers, killed themselves with a gun. Boys were eight times more likely than girls to die in a gun suicide. A little over one in four (28 percent) gun deaths in children and teens were suicides and 66 percent were homicides.

For adults 20 and older, it was almost the reverse. Two out of three deaths (65 percent) were suicides and 32 percent were homicides. Almost 88 percent of the victims of gun suicides of all ages were White, but for children and teens, American Indian or Alaska Native children and teens had the highest rate of gun suicide, nearly twice as high as White children and teens.

Gun suicides have contributed to a terrible overall trend: Suicide has now overtaken car accidents as the leading cause of injury-related deaths for the total population in the United States.

As with all gun deaths, there are multiple victims when a suicide occurs. Family members, friends, teachers, and coaches often struggle with guilt about signs they missed or extra steps they could have taken.

Some people argue these tragic deaths would all have taken place no matter what and the same victims who killed themselves with guns would have simply used other means if they had not had access to guns. But studies show this is not true.

An estimated 94 percent of gun-related suicides would not occur if no guns were present. In fact, having a gun in the home makes the likelihood of suicide three to five times higher. One simple reason is that most suicide attempts are not successful, and nine out of ten people who survive a suicide attempt eventually go on to die from something else.

Using a gun makes a terrible difference: Experts estimate suicide attempts using guns are as much as 90 percent likely to succeed. This is especially tragic for teenagers, who may lack the experience and perspective to know how to cope with highs and lows triggered by brain chemistry they can’t always control. The simple presence of a gun can make what otherwise might have been a temporary period of depression or momentary despair fatal.

When it comes to guns and suicide, especially in young people, there are things we can do. Access to guns is itself considered a risk factor for teenage suicide. There are many common sense ways to limit child access to guns. More than half of youths who commit suicide with a gun obtain the gun from their own homes, usually a parent’s gun. Parents who own guns should store them unloaded and locked, and make sure their children don’t know how to access the gun. Parents whose children are going through tough times can temporarily remove guns from their homes to make sure their children can’t access them.

I hope all of us will oppose laws -- like the one passed in Florida in 2011 but later invalidated in a legal challenge -- that prevent medical professionals from asking about guns in the home and providing counseling about how to prevent gun injuries and deaths.

We can do better. What we can’t do is pretend the guns themselves don’t matter. As Harvard School of Public Health scholars Dr. Matthew Miller and Dr. David Hemenway put it, “Too many seem to believe that anyone who is serious enough about suicide to use a gun would find an equally effective means if a gun were not available. This belief is invalid... Effective suicide prevention should focus not only on a patient’s psychological condition but also on the availability of lethal means -- which can make the difference between life and death.”

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LOL!

So now can we put that nonsense to rest about most Africans having electricity? Apparently the American president doesn't think so.

But that said, don't let Obama's announcements fool you. The global corporate elites have no intention on letting Africans get access to electricity on a large scale and that is because they want to steal the electricity and use it for themselves just like they do every other resource in Africa.

Even the president did one of his famous two steps turning around and saying that even though he wants power in Africa, he doesn't want Africans to have the same things that they have in the West. Pure PR designed to say one thing and be another.

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While speaking at a town hall event in Johannesburg, South Africa, President Obama said the planet would boil if people in Africa were allowed to have air conditioning, cars and big houses, CNS News reported Monday.

Ultimately, if you think about all the youth that everybody has mentioned here in Africa, if everybody is raising living standards to the point where everybody has got a car and everybody has got air conditioning, and everybody has got a big house, well, the planet will boil over -- unless we find new ways of producing energy,” he said.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-planet-will-boil-over-if-africans-have-air-conditioning-cars

So this whole plan by Obama is simply another "green screen" environmental scam designed to limit Africans actual access to energy, even while huge hydroelectric projects are developed to primarily run the mines owned by foreigners extracting the wealth out of Africa and their expatriate communities. Talk about hypocrisy and to top it off, the Africans are the ones going into debt for these projects but get none of the benefit.

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Last month, the government of the Democratic Republic of Congo announced in Paris that the construction of the first phase of a new set of energy projects at the country's Inga Falls would begin in October 2015. The new $12 billion development, dubbed Inga 3, is expected to have a power output of nearly 4,800 megawatts (MW), with South Africa agreeing to buy half of the electricity generated.

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With a length of 4,700 kilometers, the Congo is Africa's second biggest river, after the Nile, and the world's second largest river in terms of flow, after the Amazon. At the Grand Inga site, some 1.5 million cubic feet of water flow steadily through a network of cataracts every second, dropping about 100 meters to form the world's biggest waterfall by volume.
Ethiopia builds infrastructure for growth
Zambia's investment in infrastructure

Yet the power potential from the river's rapids has largely gone unexploited in a country plagued by violence and corruption for decades -- just 11.1% of the DRC's population has access to electricity, according to the World Bank.

Read this: Africa's new skyscraper cities

So far, the only two projects built to tap Congo's potential are two smaller dams -- Inga 1, commissioned in 1972, and Inga 2, a decade later. Both of them are almost exclusively used to provide energy for the mining companies in the southern DRC's copper belt but are currently undergoing extensive rehabilitation as they perform far below capacity.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/28/business/biggest-hydropower-grand-inga-congo
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Your albino people whom you surreptitiously try to make out like omnipresent and omnipotent gods, are indeed dying off this planet.

What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose it in the end.

Meanwhile Africa that was once written off as a basket case, is now become the bread basket of the world.

What do you think about this situation you malovent and malicious jealous Dog? Can you elucidate with your laughable and idiotic logic? [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

All you will ever amount to is a miserable Dog, on dole, the truly malevolent Mis-realite! [Razz] [Razz]

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Africa as the breadbasket of the world is the same as America as the breadbasket of the world. It is all based on slavery and genocide. I mean who on earth do you think you are kidding? It isn't like the farms exporting all that food is owned by Africans.

Lion you need to stop speaking nonsense.

You want to uphold Africa and that is fine but stop trying to paint a rosy picture that doesn't reflect reality.

The only one spouting nonsense from a European perspective is you.

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A ten year old girl, hit by a rubber bullet the previous day when local police forces entered the De-Doorns community shooting rubber bullets at the residents, resulting in one death and several injuries.
Farm workers in the Western Cape, South Africa, have been striking for a wage rise - from 69 Rands (8$) a day to 150 Rands (17$) a day.
January 9th marked the third strike in many farms around the Western Cape, and De-Doorns became the center of the struggle with workers blocking the N2 highway and clashing with police. In the last few days the police attacked the community, shooting rubber bullets and stun grenades. One person died and many were injured.

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A young resident of De-Doorns showing his wound after being shot in his face at close range by police with rubber bullets, Western cape, South Africa, January 11, 2013.
Farm workers in the Western Cape, South Africa, have been striking for a wage rise - from 69 Rands (8$) a day to 150 Rands (17$) a day. January 9th marked the third strike in many farms around the Western Cape, and De-Doorns became the center of the struggle with workers blocking the N2 highway and clashing with police. After the clashes ended the police raided houses in the community, breaking doors and windows and shooting people with rubber bullets at close range in their homes.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/activestills/8371054016/in/set-72157632497312656


No Africa isn't ALL bad but it isn't milk and honey either, at last not for Africans.
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South African farmworkers who have waged violent strikes since November are winning their battle for higher minimum wages. The victory may cost thousands their jobs, as farmers mechanize to guard supply contracts with clients such as Asda, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT)'s U.K. chain.

Three people have died and packing sheds and vineyards have been torched in strike-related protests in the Western Cape, the nation's biggest fruit-producing region. Workers are demanding the minimum wage be raised to 150 rand ($17) a day from 70 rand. While the government will legislate new pay standards by April 1, some farmers have already agreed to increases.

South Africa exports about 12 billion rand worth of fruit a year. It accounts for about 11 percent of the world's table grape and pear shipments, and is the ninth largest wine producer, U.S. Department of Agriculture data shows. The farm strikes coincided with the peak harvesting season, placing the nation's reputation as a reliable supplier at stake and raising the risk of market share being lost to competitors such as Chile, according to Pretoria-based Agri SA, the main farmers' organization.

"We have had inquiries from our clients all over the world about the unrest," Pieter du Toit, managing director of Du Toit Group (Pty) Ltd., one of South Africa’s largest farming companies, whose clients include Asda and Edeka Zentrale AG & Co., Germany's biggest food retailer, said by phone from Ceres on Jan. 15. "I think they are spreading their risk to ensure supply. We will make mechanization a higher priority."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-17/s-africa-farm-strikes-may-risk-wal-mart-edeka-contracts.html

Now Apartheid and the Land Acts before that were all put in place to kick the Africans off the land so Europeans could create plantations and use the natives as slaves. This is nothing more than the same system the British and Europeans created in the Americas, South Asia and elsewhere that is the basis of the modern "global economy". It is inherently based on slavery, genocide and oppression. So what part of this don't you get? These people in South Africa are racists and no different than whites in the Americas or anywhere else. Blacks don't own or control anything.

But your dumb behind claims that Africa as the "breadbasket" of the world is somehow good for Africans....

And at this point most of the politicians in South Africa are simply FLUNKIES for the white corporations who serve on their boards while the corporations CONTINUE to enslave Africans and treat them like dirt in their own country. NOT ONE of these companies had to pay a DIME of reparations for the TRILLIONS of dollars in wealth stolen from South Africa from before or during Apartheid. And these sambo flunkies have NO INTENTION on forcing them to do so or to give back any land or recognize African sovereignty. They are only there to be SPOKESPEOPLE for these white corporations so that these corporations can appear legit while they continue to exploit and steal from Africans.

For example:

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A revered activist who was politically and romantically involved with the late Steve Biko has launched a party to challenge the governing African National Congress (ANC) and "rekindle the South Africa of our dreams".

Mamphela Ramphele said that dream had faded for people who endured poverty and inequality, the threat of a return to traditional rule in rural areas and a broken education system that had gone backwards since the end of racial apartheid.

"Our society's greatness is being fundamentally undermined by a massive failure of governance," she said at a launch event on Monday at the historic women's jail at Constitutional Hill. "Our country has lost the moral authority and international respect it enjoyed when it became a democracy."

The 65-year-old said her new organisation would be called Agang – "Let us build", in the Sesotho language – and would contest national elections next year.

Ramphele, who spent seven years under house arrest during white minority rule, was among the founders of Biko's black consciousness movement. The pair fell in love and had a daughter, who died aged two months, and a son, born after Biko was killed by apartheid police in 1977.

What Biko would think about today's South Africa if he had lived, and how he would respond, is a perennial subject of debate. "He would have been disappointed, as I am, that the country of our dreams is yet to become a reality in the lives of ordinary people," Ramphele told the Guardian.

"He would have been as committed as I am to put up his hand to make sure that we mobilise South Africans to build this country of our dreams and to make ours a modern, thriving 21st-century democracy."

Ramphele, who is not married, dismissed as "preposterous" the notion that she was Biko's political torchbearer. But she added: "There are those of our generation who remember not only with our minds but with our hearts, and I believe Steve Biko's imprint on my generation of activists is indelible. It is a rich heritage from which we are drawing. The fact that I'm able to engage with South Africans across the party political, colour and cultural divide is a tribute to the consciousness-raising that we all worked on.

"I don't have any inferiority complex against anybody, nor do I have any grudge against anybody. So I feel I am in a position to encourage other South Africans to put the country first. Let us self-identify as South Africans, not this shameful status right now where less than 10% are able to say 'I am a South African'. We can't talk about black consciousness. We must talk about a South African consciousness."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/18/mamphela-ramphele-challenge-anc

Notice how this woman is spouting this "we are the world" we are rainbow nation bull crap and we all need to live together bull crap. I mean who on earth is she talking to? She is saying all these things as if all groups were equally guilty of trying to make South Africa exclusive to one population. But last I checked, ONLY ONE group of people was promoting racism, exploitation and EXCLUSION over all others. So now white folks are all the same with the Indians, Asians and blacks in South Africa as a "rainbow" nation. And the fact that blacks are on the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM is simply just natural huh? Don't kick the white folks out, don't make them pay back anything, they didn't do anything wrong, look you can get a nice job too from these good white folks.... That is exactly why they put her there.

This is exactly the "party line" and agenda of all these white corporates who run south Africa. In fact, President Obama represents the SAME ANGLO corporate system. Make no mistake, the POTUS went it to South Africa to make it clear that corporate America and corporate South Africa are brothers and all one and unified..... AGAINST the Africans.

Here is Miss Ramphele's bio if you don't believe what I am saying:
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Continuing her academic studies, Ramphele received a Ph.D. in Social Anthropology from the University of Cape Town, a Bachelor of Commerce degree in Administration from the University of South Africa as well as diplomas in Tropical Health & Hygiene and Public Health from the University of the Witwatersrand. Ramphele has also authored and edited a number of books.

Ramphele joined the University of Cape Town as a research fellow in 1986 and was appointed as one of its Deputy Vice-Chancellors in 1991. She was appointed to the post of Vice-Chancellor of the university in September 1996, thereby becoming the first black woman to hold such a position at a South African university. Part of her executive job roles was to take charge of the University’s Equal Opportunity Policy Portfolio, with the aim of changing the culture of the institution. In 1994, Ramphele was a visiting scholar at the Kennedy School of Government in the United States of America (USA).

In 2000, Ramphele became one of the four Managing Directors of the World Bank. She was tasked with overseeing the strategic positioning and operations of the World Bank Institute as well as the Vice-Presidency of External Affairs. She is the first South African to hold this position.

Ramphele has served as a trustee of the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund, as the director of the Institute for a Democratic Alternative for South Africa (IDASA) and as a board member of the Anglo-American Corporation and Transnet.

Ramphele also serves as a trustee for The Link SA fund, a charitable organization that raises money to subsidise the tertiary education of South Africa's brightest underprivileged students. She also sits on the Board of the Mo Ibrahim Foundation, an organisation which supports good governance and great leadership in Africa.

She was voted 55th in the Top 100 Great South Africans in 2004, a survey portrayed as mired in controversy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamphela_Ramphele

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GOLD Fields distanced itself from comments by former chairperson, Mamphela Ramphele, who said that the R54bn gold company agreed to government-nominated empowerment partners for its South Deep mine. However, the group confirmed it was investigating its black economic empowerment (BEE) transactions.

“Gold Fields values and respects the services to the company of its former chair, Dr Mamphela Ramphele,” the company said in a statement today.

“During her tenure, Dr Ramphele strongly supported the board’s decision to commission an independent investigation. Statements attributed in press reports yesterday (March 12) to Dr Ramphele represent her own personal views,” it said.

Gold Fields had retained the services of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison (Paul Weiss), a law firm, to undertake the investigation which is thought to extend to the 9% share in Gold Fields’ South Deep mine held by Invictus Gold, an empowerment grouping with some 73 shareholders.

http://www.miningmx.com/page/news/gold_and_silver/1546195-Gold-Fields-distances-itself-from-Ramphele-comments#.Udlt8awUhBk


Another corporate sponsored sellout clown being promoted as the "savior" of South Africa who is only really a savior of the white corporations who need black faces in high places to make black folks feel good while they CONTINUE to get oppressed.

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In one of the most optimistic developments in local politics in recent years, Black Consciousness Movement (BCM) forerunner Mamphela Ramphele looks set to enter South African politics. The weekend press reported that Ramphele said she was "entering politics to save her country".

A former anti-Apartheid activist, who was in a relationship with Steve Biko (SA’s most influential black consciousness leader) until he was murdered by security police, Ramphele was Biko’s intellectual companion and sounding-board, helping him frame many of his political ideas.

One of the most respected women in her own country, and across the globe, Ramphele is a medical doctor who has spent much of her life championing civic activism, human rights, education, self-actualisation and a value-centric approach to politicking. A former managing director of human development at the World Bank and one time Vice-Chancellor at the University of Cape Town, today Ramphele is more recognised as an outspoken critic of the Zuma regime, an agitator for systemic change in SA through civic organisations she’s created, and for her numerous business interests. The chair of the board at Gold Fields, Ramphele is also holds directorships at Anglo American, Medi-Clinic, and Remgro. She also chairs education finance specialists, EduLoan, and Circle Capital Ventures, the empowerment investment company founded with her son, Hlumelo Biko.

City Press claimed that an announcement from Ramphele was imminent, and that she’d travelled to the US, where she told audiences she was raising funds for a political party. The weekly newspaper stated that she’d been lobbying support from ambassadors abroad.

Former DA leader and ambassador to Argentina, Tony Leon, told City Press that he’d had independent confirmation of this news from at least two people who’d attended the meetings. “One of these meetings was in Boston, where she spoke at the residence of South African-born (retired) Chief Justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, Margaret Marshall,” Leon told the weekly. “A friend of mine from South Africa was there. She said Ramphele was starting a political party and she was there to raise money,” said Leon.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-01-28-analysis-mamphela-ramphele-to-the-rescue

And it is no coincidence that she was in the U.S. seeking funds. The corporate elites and their political flunkies want to model themselves after America, right down to the slavery, jim crow apartheid and white rule and black corporate flunky spokesmen.

ALL of these political parties, whether the ANC or the new Agang party are in bed with the WHITES and this is why they have DONE NOTHING for black people in South Africa. NOT ONE THING.

And this chick was not really that involved with Biko but they are using this as cover for the ignorant clowns that don't know her real history.

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As she became more involved in the BCM, she also fell in love with Steve Biko. However, she married an old boyfriend on a holiday break from school. Her marriage was a mistake and ended barely a year later. It was too late for her and Biko though. In light of her own marriage, he, in turn, married another. Still their affair continued and in May of 1974, she bore his child, a girl named Lerato, which means "love." Tragically the baby died at two months.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/mamphela-ramphele#ixzz2YMo7cCTF

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Many African countries are on their way to become rich and industrialize countries.

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Many African countries are on their way to become rich and industrialize countries.

Said! [Smile] [Smile]
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most African countries are set to be industrialized soon because of their mineral and rich resource reserves which will boost economy and infrastructure.
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