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General George Monk (1608-1670), 1st Duke of Albemarle [1660], Commander-in-Chief, politician and key figure in the Restoration of Charles II, silver badge, 1660, by Thomas Rawlins, armoured bust left, incised legend, GEORGE DVKE OF ALBEMARLE, rev., ducal coronet above the arms of Monk, within Garter.

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Charles I and Henrietta Maria, small gilt-silver Royalist Badge, bare-headed bust of Charles left, with long hair and falling lace collar, rev., bust of Henrietta Maria left, hair tied in knot behind, with high lace collar and pearl earing,

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^He,he,he,he:

The Albinos struck again?

Which is the truest representation?

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Charles I and Henrietta Maria, gilt-silver Royalist Badge, by Thomas Rawlins, crowned and armoured bust of Charles right, in high relief, with lace collar, sash and Garter George on ribbon, incised legend, CAROLVS DG REX, the outer border as Garter with incised motto, HONI SOIT QVI MAL Y PENSE, rev., bust of Henrietta left, her hair tied back and curled at sides, wearing pearl necklace, incised legend, HENRETA MARIA DG REG.

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Charles I, gilt-silver Royalist Badge, by Thomas Rawlins, crowned bust of Charles I right with falling lace collar, wearing Garter Collar and George, CAROLVS DG MAG BRITAN FRAN ET HIB REX FI D, rev., bust of Henrietta Maria left, her hair tied back, decorative dress tied with bow, pearl necklace with drop, signed T RAWLINS F below, HENRETTA MARIA DG MAG BRITAN FRAN ET HIB REG, wreath border around to both sides.

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^Last I heard, they don't make Albino women looking like that, Henrietta Maria was a sista.


Wiki:

Henrietta Maria of France (French: Henriette Marie; 25 November 1609 – 10 September 1669) was queen consort of England, Scotland, and Ireland as the wife of King Charles I. She was mother of his two immediate successors, Charles II and James II.

Her Catholic religion made her unpopular in England, and also prohibited her from being crowned in an Anglican service; therefore she never had a coronation. She began to immerse herself in national affairs as civil war loomed on the horizon, and was compelled to seek refuge in France in 1644, following the birth of her youngest daughter, Henrietta, during the height of the First English Civil War. The execution of King Charles in 1649 left her impoverished. She settled in Paris, and then returned to England after the Restoration of her eldest son, Charles, to the throne. In 1665, she moved back to Paris, where she died four years later.

The North American Province of Maryland was named in her honour, and the name was carried over into the current US state of Maryland.

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I am currently experiencing computer problems, making it difficult to properly explore this site.

Please help out by exploring it, and posting the topical portraits - Thanks.



Btw - Richard Sackville, Earl of Dorset by Simon de Passe looks very interesting, but I can't work on it.


http://antiqueportrait.com/author/anelson/

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Wow congratulation excellent discovery Mike. I tought Real History WW.com had discovered all the Black/Brown European Monarchs and nobility coins already. History is realy lies agreed upon.

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quote:
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Wow congratulation excellent discovery Mike. I tought Real History WW.com had discovered all the Black/Brown European Monarchs and nobility coins already. History is realy lies agreed upon.

The Albinos have attempted to hide, obfuscate, or destroy, thousands of years of Black history.

Yet you thought it had all been uncovered?

Hell, we have barely scratched the surface.

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Why isn't anyone posting pictures from the site?

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Elizabeth Stuart of Bohemia, Countess Palatine, Marriage to Frederick, Count Palatine, uniface oval silvered-metal “squeeze” or cliché, 1613, by Christian Maler [Nürnberg], bust almost full-face, her hair high, wearing elaborate bejewelled dress, double row pearl necklace, legend in two lines around, ELIZABETHA FIL IA RE MAG BRIT FRA ET HI VX PRIN FRE 5 COM PAL EL DV BA, 42.5mm x 37.5mm (MI 203/35; BDM III, 541). Good very fine, extremely rare and toned.

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Interesting hair on this

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Guys you don't have to worry about Europe running out of Black royals. They are still blacks, AKA light-skinned blacks and their numbers are being replenished.

The reason why their numbers are dropping is that the men are generally being kept away from African women, but every now and then, the more intuitive ones find themselves in an environment that sparks the urge to the Mother source.

Two Habsburgs have married African women in the last few decades and one Prince of Liechtenstein also married a Panamaian

The so described Negroid or Asiatic traits are still present as can be seen from this photo:

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Prince Franz Josef II of Liechtenstein (1906 - 1989)

You might spot the mild resemblance to the 17th century Karl X Gustav of Sweden

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
http://antiqueportrait.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/424.jpg


General George Monk (1608-1670), 1st Duke of Albemarle [1660], Commander-in-Chief, politician and key figure in the Restoration of Charles II, silver badge, 1660, by Thomas Rawlins, armoured bust left, incised legend, GEORGE DVKE OF ALBEMARLE, rev., ducal coronet above the arms of Monk, within Garter.

That explains the shading in here as well as the colour in the one below. He was described as black with sanguine complexion. The presence if the lighter complexioned man with the hand on the chin in the second image suggests that what we see of his complexion is not due to shadow or deterioration of the ink

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General Monck Declaring for a Free Parliament - Detail

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quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:


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Yes, this is quite interesting

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Interesting hair on this

Damn you're stupid:

Still on the hair thing.

Doxie, as our resident super Albino and arbiter of all things Albino,
would you please inform this Albino idiot that Blacks, as the ORIGINAL humans,
have ALL human traits - including straight hair.

Thank you.

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The General George Monk (1608-1670), 1st Duke of Albemarle portrait is a Whitenized version,
the portrait features do not match the medal.

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The hair matches

Also, on looking at the medal compared to this engraving or some of the paintings of him not yet posted in the thread how could one know which is more accurate to his physical appearance ?
Is the one we like better then the real one?

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^^ Mike we need a photo of an adult male with this type of hair. No Jheri curls please, real hair, It's got to flow downward in big waves like this, no bushy stiff stuff either, thanks.
I believe you but the readership needs evidence now. Look at what happened when we took Egmond's word that that Surinamese guy was Doxies. We have got to step our game up

The hair cuts through this ambiguous stuff, it's telling

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stop wasting people's time, Prince has afro hair, lower right No. #3


No General George Monk did not have a modern chemical perm

>>> And a good quality photo where we can see the strands, thick wavy hair that hangs downward

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Mike show me a pic of a Black with straight hair (NO East Indians & NO Native Americans either). Hate to tell you unless they have Jeri curls, have straightened their hair with a straightening iron (my middle sister does this to make her hair bone straight), put chemicals in it to relax it, or have weave, you don't have straight hair.
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^^^ bad quality reproductions like this where you can't see the detail on the hair texture is puposely used so that you can't check it out, and look at the faded dark part behind the writing at the bottom. That writing is supposed to against a light background
enough is enough

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I suspect the coins to be a more accurate portrayal, and they can't be altered.. Portraits are less exacting and are more symbolic than truly life like, and are easily altered.

As for the hair aspect Lioness is being a twat as usual. More than enough examples have been posted here which she has seen, but her twatty conduct is something she cannot give up.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
[QB] I suspect the coins to be a more accurate portrayal, and they can't be altered.. Portraits are less exacting and are more symbolic than truly life like, and are easily altered.


http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/38285.html

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Medal commemorating Admiral General George Monk (1608-1670): 1st Duke of Albemarle. Obverse: A badge; within a raised garland, a border of laurel on both sides, bust of Admiral Monk, hair long, in a collar, armour and mantle (left). Legend (incuse): 'GEORGE DVKE D. ALBEMARLE.' Reverse: His coat of arms within the Garter, surmounted by a ducal coronet. Fitted with a scroll shaped loop. Date Made 1660

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El debarge ????


That medal is fake or tampered with....see the top lip.....

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The hair matches

Also, on looking at the medal compared to this engraving or some of the paintings of him not yet posted in the thread how could one know which is more accurate to his physical appearance ?
Is the one we like better then the real one?

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^^ Mike we need a photo of an adult male with this type of hair. No Jheri curls please, real hair, It's got to flow downward in big waves like this, no bushy stiff stuff either, thanks.
I believe you but the readership needs evidence now. Look at what happened when we took Egmond's word that that Surinamese guy was Doxies. We have got to step our game up

The hair cuts through this ambiguous stuff, it's telling

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Afar man

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^Lioness is an asinine lying bitch, stop wasting your time answering with pictures, just curse the bitch. Doxie - shame on you, trailer trash is supposed to be true blue - just slutty.
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George Monck, 1660 medal by Thomas Simon

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George Monck, 1st Duke of Albemarle
Workshop of Peter Lely - National Portrait Gallery: NPG 423
Created: circa 1665-66

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It's sad Clyde has sunk down to the
'I wish I was European' -ism
of Mike

And this after saying at the same time Black Americans are European that at the same time we are Native American. Yeah it all adds up

anything but African


Maybe in a sort while Clyde will swing all the way into Mikism and join Mike and Hab and Cod in the ranks of Black Eurocentrism

Clyde, do you realize that Europeans are the ones who came up with the Out of Africa Theory.
Obviously there is an agenda behind that lie.
In truth the first humans were the Blacks of Europe. Africa wasn't even populated back then. What happened is the white man came into and invaded and sent the Black people into Africa and told them the lie that we originally came from there

Darwin scammed us

Think about it. The Out of Africa Theory. That's a big white lie

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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It's sad Clyde has sunk down to the
'I wish I was European' -ism
of Mike

And this after saying at the same time Black Americans are European that at the same time we are Native American. Yeah it all adds up

anything but African


Maybe in a sort while Clyde will swing all the way into Mikism and join Mike and Hab and Cod in the ranks of Black Eurocentrism

Clyde, do you realize that Europeans are the ones who came up with the Out of Africa Theory.
Obviously there is an agenda behind that lie.
In truth the first humans were the Blacks of Europe. Africa wasn't even populated back then. What happened is the white man came into and invaded and sent the Black people into Africa and told them the lie that we originally came from there

Darwin scammed us

Think about it. The Out of Africa Theory. That's a big white lie

Nobody cares what you think.This has nothing to do with black eurocentrism. I am writing an authentic history of the Afro-American. Click on the link:

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Afro-Americans are not solely the descendants of Sub-Saharan Africans. Afro-Americans have a tripartite heritage: Black Native Americans, Black Europeans and Sub Saharan Africans. Black Native Americans were the first North American slaves and 'colored freemen". They had already been used as slaves for almost 200 years by the time Africans came to the U.S.A., as slaves.

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Pequot Indian working on a Caribbean Plantation

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Clyde it depends on percentages
A white or black person could be 2% Native American or they could be 20% Native American
-big difference
Or 0%
Most Black people in America are not part native American

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Clyde it depends on percentages
A white or black person could be 2% Native American or they could be 20% Native American
-big difference
Or 0%
Most Black people in America are not part native American

See, this is what I mean.

Now how could this lying bitch possibly know

what percentage of native American, Black Americans are, or are not?

It doesn't pay to come up with a logical answer, since the question itself is pure nonsense.

That's why I say - just curse the bitch, and move on.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Clyde it depends on percentages
A white or black person could be 2% Native American or they could be 20% Native American
-big difference
Or 0%
Most Black people in America are not part native American

See, this is what I mean.

Now how could this lying bitch possibly know

what percentage of native American, Black Americans are, or are not?

It doesn't pay to come up with a logical answer, since the question itself is pure nonsense.

That's why I say - just curse the bitch, and move on.

I am in favour of moving on.
I already said we study history to end racism today.

It has already been proven on this here forum that the European elite was Africa derived.
I put on the finishing touch by stating they were North Africans. Showing all complexions, and some were classicl Africans, while others were lighter, and all complexions might have semetic, narrow features.
Now in Morocco I see frizzled hair as of les importance.
I would settle for the elongated skulls, the pinched waist, the bubble butt, and the fat female buttochs. They very often show 50 or 25 percent prognathism.
In iconography there were also other considerations. A not so imposing person had to be made imposing.
Different artist saw that differently.
Licensing was important, so avery artist had to come up with a different chararcteristic. THat is why portraits often do not match.
I studied Van Mierevelt and he and others incorporated certain mathematic proportions to faces, which often rendered prognatism obsolete.
He was Black, he worked for Blacks, they were not worrying about 400 years later, and people denying they were Blacks.
Next to many black portraits some of them had a little fun by being depicted as ivory white, but they would never dream of marrying a pink person.
I am surprised that more of them show classical African facial traits, and even the hair proofs to be kinkier then some portraits show.
Of course to narrow blacknes only to very classical Africans is wrong.
Our purpose to study history is ending racism todat.

Lioness is here to prevent that.

We as a strategy schould stop heaping blame on pinks, they are pinks not whites, because we Blacks did and are still doing it to ourselves. We will end racism, not pinks who are usually just trailer trash. And their brain is affected by 5000 years of genetic selection by Blacks. Avery thing they say or do is wrong, its illogic, is a lie to show pink rainworms as founders of human civilization. That rainworm talking about Bosnian pyramids must be out of his fucking mind.

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0nUlrhBxY2I/Ugj2nzxLIEI/AAAAAAAAAb4/l7TJ2wl7nE0/s1600/o4.jpg

Engravings were made after painting production to make cheap copies and showing them in books. They are often a source for portraits that do not exist anymore.

And for our purpose; they show the complexion of a portrait when it was newly made, before it was over painted pink after 1848.

This engraving shows Prins Maurits, who followed after his father Prince William I of Orange of Nassau. He is prognastic and the Mierevelt is gone.

He did not marry, loved men and women, and some of his descendants live in Suriname, having more William I DNA then Queen Beatrix and her son King Willem_Alexander as they are descendants of his brother.

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Egghead Cockpiece, give it up already you stupid White people hating, Black racist, Black supremacist devil. We are WHITE NOT pink. You don't want an end to so called White supremacy, you want to exchange it for Black supremacy. You don't want an end to racism, you simply want racism against Whites.


Mike I feel no shame. As I said before, I'd rather be White trailer trash than Black ghetto trash like you.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] Clyde it depends on percentages
A white or black person could be 2% Native American or they could be 20% Native American
-big difference
Or 0%
Most Black people in America are not part native American

See, this is what I mean.

Now how could this lying bitch possibly know

what percentage of native American, Black Americans are, or are not?

It doesn't pay to come up with a logical answer, since the question itself is pure nonsense.


You can tell which continent a person's ancestry is associated with by analyzing their DNA. I have looked at several sources on this.
The best sources say we are 65-80% Sub Saharan African, after that around 22% white European, around 2% Native American
That is an average, of course individuals may vary.

The way they do this is by comparing African American DNA to the DNA of Africans and others and percentages can be derived from this.

This corresponds to historical information.

So we are dealing with things that can be measured with scientific instruments.

They have for instance mapped the genome of some remains of prehistoric human remains found in Europe and while they may have had dark skin African American DNA does not match their DNA so their is no evedence that African Americans are part native European beyond our mixtures with white Europeans

In other words your ass is mainly African

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Clyde it depends on percentages
A white or black person could be 2% Native American or they could be 20% Native American
-big difference
Or 0%
Most Black people in America are not part native American

I disagree. This 2%, 20% part Indian is bs.I believe that 100% of Afro-Americans have Black Native American heritage. This results from the fact that the slaves on the plantations when Africans came to America were already Black Native Americans (BNA). The BNA mated with the African slaves. The white racists to make sure they took the BNA lands often ignored the treaties they made with the BNA from New England down to Florida, by taking the BNA tribesmen captured after a War and enslaving them, while the BNA not enslaved was given the Bible, made Christian, and labled "free colored". Over time, the freed African slaves were also forced to live in the "free colored" communities". In the "free colored" communities BNA and former African slaves mated.

After the Revolutionary War, some BNA moved to Canada with the British. Some of the remaining BNA tribesmen were allowed to live as "free colored" people in places like Seneca Village (the location of today's Central Park), and Martha's Vinyard. In places like Seneca Village and Martha's Vinyard, freed African slaves joined and mated with BNA. These "free colored" communities remained centers of Afro-American commerce and "citizenship", until whites took the land from the Afro-Americans.

Due to the interactions between BNA and African slaves as " free colored" people and slaves on the plantation my guess is that 100% of Afro-Americans have BNA ancestry.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
You can tell which continent a person's ancestry is associated with by analyzing their DNA. I have looked at several sources on this.
The best sources say we are 65-80% Sub Saharan African, after that around 22% white European, around 2% Native American
That is an average, of course individuals may vary.

The way they do this is by comparing African American DNA to the DNA of Africans and others and percentages can be derived from this.

This corresponds to historical information.

So we are dealing with things that can be measured with scientific instruments.

They have for instance mapped the genome of some remains of prehistoric human remains found in Europe and while they may have had dark skin African American DNA does not match their DNA so their is no evedence that African Americans are part native European beyond our mixtures with white Europeans

In other words your ass is mainly African

Post the study, if one such exists, so that we may all evaluate it.
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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Mike show me a pic of a Black with straight hair (NO East Indians & NO Native Americans either). Hate to tell you unless they have Jeri curls, have straightened their hair with a straightening iron (my middle sister does this to make her hair bone straight), put chemicals in it to relax it, or have weave, you don't have straight hair.

There is plenty of that. All over the Sahara-Sahel


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Physical variations in any given trait tend to occur gradually rather than abruptly over geographic areas. And because physical traits are inherited independently of one another, knowing the range of one trait does not predict the presence of others. For example, skin color varies largely from light in the temperate areas in the north to dark in the tropical areas in the south; its intensity is not related to nose shape or hair texture. Dark skin may be associated with frizzy or kinky hair or curly or wavy or straight hair, all of which are found among different indigenous peoples in tropical regions. These facts render any attempt to establish lines of division among biological populations both arbitrary and subjective.
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There are people here who respond to others who need proof that Blacks are present in Africa. Apparently if these people have no nappy head, they are pinks. Blumenbach came up with the idea of externally degenerated pinks, who are only black from the outside. There is very little criticism of Blumenbach. He also said that all babies are born pink, and Black ones colour later due to air, food, unguents and inheretid traits. Nobody questioned why a clever person should say things like this.

They have to be seen in contexrt. The context is working towards 1848 when pinks were emancipated.

We are not making progress here. It seems to be that stupid pink and stupid Black congregate here.

I really wont be long, and find something else to do with my time and money.

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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Mike show me a pic of a Black with straight hair (NO East Indians & NO Native Americans either). Hate to tell you unless they have Jeri curls, have straightened their hair with a straightening iron (my middle sister does this to make her hair bone straight), put chemicals in it to relax it, or have weave, you don't have straight hair.

Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor - I did not answer because I understood it to be a silly and rhetorical question.

This is what Albinos do when they are desperate to claim some sort of uniqueness for themselves, instead of simply being the Albinos of Black people.

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