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Q: Did you hear about the Polak who thought his wife was trying to kill him?
A: On her dressing table he found a bottle of "Polish Remover".

Q: How do you sink a polish battleship?
A: Put it in water.

Q: Why did the polack put ice in his condom?
A: To keep the swelling down.

Q: What happened to the Polish hockey team?
A: They all drowned in spring training.

Q: Why don't polish women use vibrators?
A: It chips their teeth.

Q: Why did the Polak cross the road?
A: He couldn't get his dick out of the chicken.

Q: Why are there no Polish doctors?
A: Because you can't write prescriptions with spray paint.

Q: How does every Polish joke start?
A: By looking over your shoulder.

Q: Whats the difference between a smart Polak and a unicorn?
A: Nothing, they're both fictional characters


Clearly these jokes indicate a feeling that Poles are stupid - where did that come from?

It comes from the 13th. century when the Mongols are once again rampaging through Europe (Attila and his Huns started the ball rolling in 370). No one can stop them, they go through European armies like a hot blade through butter. This time it is feared that they will go all the way to the Atlantic Ocean.

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Poland had already been sacked by the Mongols before, and the Mongols were once again on their way to Poland - destroying everything in their path. Poland and the rest of Europe thought that it was the end for them.

But something strange happened - the Mongols never showed up.

The Poles, giddy with joy, reasoned that since the Mongols didn't come, they must have defeated the Mongols. So they began celebrations in recognition of their great victory over the Mongols.

He,he,he,he:

Actually what had happened was that the Mongol leader had died. This caused the Mongols to return home to choose a new leader, and then return to Europe. However the new leader had no interest in Europe, so the invasion did not continue. But the perception that Poles are stupid remained.

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Name: Batu "The Splendid" Khan , of the Blue Horde
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1209
Death: 1255
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Batu Khan
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Batu Khan (Russian: Batyi, ?????) (c. 1205 - 1255) was a Mongol ruler, founder of the Kipchak Khanate. The term "Kipchak" came from the Kipchak Turks in the Mongol forces. Batu was a son of Jochi and grandson of Genghis Khan. He was also the first ruler of the "Golden Horde" or Kipchak Khanate, which ruled Russia for 250 years, after also destroying the armies of Poland and Hungry, and would have conquered all of Europe, had fate, in the death of the Great Khan Ogedei, not stopped him.

Contents
1 Bloodline of the Kipchak Khans
2 Invasion of Rus
3 Invasion of Central Europe
4 Aftermath
5 References
6 External Source


Bloodline of the Kipchak Khans
Although Genghis Khan recognized Jochi as his son, his parentage was always a question, as his mother Börte, Genghis Khan's wife, had been captured and raped, so that Jochi was born exactly nine months after her recovery by Genghis Khan. During the lifetime of Genghis, this issue was public knowledge but it was taboo to publicly discuss it. Still, it drove a wedge between Jochi and his father, and just before Jochi's death, he and Genghis almost fought a civil war because of Jochi's sullen refusal to join in military campaigns. Jochi also was given only 4,000 Mongol soldiers to carve out his own Khanate. Jochi's sons Batu got most of his soldiers by recruiting Turkic people (mostly Kipchak Turks) who he had defeated.

Batu was the senior member of the Mongol family after Jochi and Genghis passed away, and Batu was later instrumental in setting aside the house of his uncle Ogotai aside in favor of the house of Toloui, his other uncle. When Batu and his son, Sartak, passed on, Batu's brother named Berke inherited the so-called "Golden Horde" actually the Kipchak Khanate, and Berke was not inclined to unity with his cousins in the Mongol family, making war on Hulagu Khan, though Berke officially recognized the Khanate of China as his overloard---in theory only. In fact, Berke was an independent king by then. Fortunately for Europe, Berke did not share Batu's interest in conquering it. Batu had sworn to conquer all the way to the "Great Sea," the Atlantic, and when Ogedei died, was preparing to do just that, with a winter invasion of Austria and Germany actually beginning, when the word came of the Great Khan's death - and Batu, a potential Great Khan, and a prince of the blood, had to return to Mongolia and put European Invasion on hold. Subutai, the greatest of the Mongol Generals, returned with him, and died in Mongolia in 1248, still waiting for the chance to finish his work for Batu.


Invasion of Rus
Main article: Mongol invasion of Rus
In 1235 Batu, who earlier had directed the conquest of the Crimea, was assigned an army of possibly 130,000 (actually commanded by Subutai) to oversee an invasion of Europe. The army crossed the Volga and invaded Volga Bulgaria in 1236. It took them a year to extinguish resistance to the Volga Bulgarians, Kypchaks, and Alani.

In November 1237 Batu Khan sent his envoys to the court of Yuri II of Vladimir and demanded his allegiance. A month later, the hordes besieged Ryazan. After six days of the bloodiest battle, this capital was totally annihillated, never to be restored. Alarmed by the news, Yury II sent his son to detain the horde, but these were soundly defeated. Having burnt down Kolomna and Moscow, the horde laid siege to Vladimir on February 4, 1238. Three days later the capital of Vladimir-Suzdal was taken and burnt to the ground. The royal family perished in the fire, while the grand prince hastily retreated northward. Crossing the Volga, he mustered a new army, which was totally exterminated by the Mongols on the Sit' River on March 4.

Thereupon Batu Khan divided his army into smaller units, which ransacked 14 Russian cities: Rostov, Uglich, Yaroslavl, Kostroma, Kashin, Ksnyatin, Gorodets, Galich, Pereslavl-Zalessky, Yuriev-Polsky, Dmitrov, Volokolamsk, Tver, and Torzhok. The most difficult to take was the small town of Kozelsk, whose boy-prince Titus and inhabitants resisted the Mongols for 7 weeks. As the story goes, at the news of Mongol approach, a city of Kitezh was submerged into a lake with all its inhabitants, where it may be seen to this day. The only major cities to escape destruction were Novgorod and Pskov, who very wisely submitted to the Mongols and agreed to pay tribute.

In the summer of 1238, Batu Khan devastated the Crimea and pacified Mordovia. In the winter of 1239, he sacked Chernigov and Pereyaslav. After many years of siege, the horde stormed Kiev in December 1239. Despite fierce resistance of Danylo of Halych, Batu Khan managed to take two principal capitals of his land, Halych and Volodymyr-Volyns'kyi. The Russian states were left as vassals rather than integrated into the central Asian empire.


Invasion of Central Europe
Batu Khan then decided to "reach the ultimate sea", where they could proceed no further. Some modern historians speculate that Batu Khan intended primarily to assure his flanks were safe for the future from possible interference from the Europeans, and partially as a precursor to further conquest. Most believe he intended the conquest of all Europe, as soon as his flanks were safe, and his forces ready.

The Mongols invaded central Europe in three groups. One group conquered Poland, defeating a combined force under Henry the Pious, Duke of Silesia and the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order at Legnica. A second crossed the Carpathians and a third followed the Danube. The armies re-grouped and crushed Hungary in 1241, defeating the army led by Béla IV of Hungary at the Battle of Muhi on April 11. The armies swept the plains of Hungary over the summer and in the spring of 1242 regained impetus and extended their control into Austria and Dalmatia as well as invading Bohemia.

This attack on Europe was planned and carried out by Subutai, under the nominal command of Batu, who was intelligent enough to get out of the way and let one of history's great generals do his best. Subutai achieved perhaps his most lasting fame with his victories there. Having devastated the various Russian Principalities, he sent spies into Poland, Hungary, and as far as Austria, in preparation for an attack into the heartland of Europe. Having gotten a clear picture of the European Kingdoms, he brilliantly prepared an attack nominally commanded by Batu Khan and 2 other princes of the blood. Batu Khan, son of Jochi, was the overall leader, but Subutai was the actual commander in the field, and as such was present in both the northern and southern campaigns against Russia. He commanded the central column that moved against Hungary. While Kaidu's northern force won the Battle of Legnica and Kadan's army triumphed in Transylvania, Subutai was waiting for them on the Hungarian plain. The newly reunited army then withdrew to the Sajo river where they inflicted the tremendous defeat on King Béla IV at the Battle of Mohi. Subutai masterminded the operation, and it was to prove one of his greatest victories.


Aftermath
By late 1241, Batu and Subutai were finishing plans to invade Austria, Italy and Germany, when the news came of the death of Ögedei Khan (died in December, 1241), and the Mongols withdrew in the late spring of 1242, as the Princes of the blood, and Subutai, were recalled to Karakorum where the kuriltai was held. (not only had the intelligence people returned to report in on Europe proper, but troops had begun movement when word of Ogedei's death brought it to a screaming halt. To many historians, the death of the Great Khan prevented the utter destruction of the remainder of Europe. Had Ogedei not died that year, Batu and Subutai planned to invade Austria first, destroy Vienna, then proceed to conquer the German principalities, then invade Italy. The following year, if all went all, would see France and Spain meet the same fate. There is no reason to believe - given the complete failure of the European Knights Templer and Teutonic Knights at Legnitz, to believe a European army made up of Knights and their "battles" could have proved any real opposition to the Mongol forces.

Batu was a potential Great Khan and when he failed to win this he turned to consolidate his conquests in Asia and the Urals. He did not have Subutai with him when he returned -- Subutai had remained in Mongolia where he died in 1248 -- and Batu's animosity with Guyuk Khan made any further European invasion impossible. He had to keep his troops ready in the event of attack from the East. (the deterioration of relations between the grandsons of Ghenghis Khan ultimately brought about the end of the Mongol Empire) After his return, Batu Khan established the capital of his khanate at Sarai on the lower Volga in 1242. He was planning new campaigns after Guyuk's death, (he was intent on carrying out Subutai's original plans to invade Europe) but he died in 1255 and the khanate passed to Sartaq. He decided against the invasion of Europe. The Kipchak Khanate ruled Russia directly, or in the case of Novograd by vassal status, for the next 130 years.

It is very clear militarily that had the Kipchak Khanate attacked the remainder of Europe in 1241, after their destruction of the Hungarian and Polish forces, they would have easily crushed Austria, Germany, Italy, France and Spain. Only the death of the great Khan, and the subsequent emnity between cousins saved Europe. Each year the Poles celebrate the Battle of Leignitz as a great victory that saved Europe from the Mongols. The truth is, it was a terrible defeat for the Poles, showed the utter uselessness of the European Knights and their "Battles" as a basis for armies against the Mongol grinder. While European rulers lead their armies and considered honor as a prime consideration for any battle, the Mongols were interested solely in winning. While the Europeans were loosely organized, to put it mildly, in their "battles," (Knights and their yeomen), Mongols fought in a modern army formation based on units of 10, 100, 1000, and 10,000. Mongols had mastered the use of flags during a battle to dictate troop movement, and other innovations that Europeans would not use for another 200 years. Luckily for Europe, Batu Khan died in 1255, just as he was preparing to finally invade Europe using Subutai's plans. His son might have carried out his father's plan, but he also died shortly thereafter, and by the time Hulagu Khan sacked Bagdad, Batu's brother Berke had become Kipchak Khan.

Fortunately for Europe, Berke did not share Batu's interest in conquering it. He was more interested in fighting his cousins, especially Hulagu, whom he loathed for destroying Bagdad. For Berke, a devout Muslim, what Hulagu had done was despicable, and in 1262, when Hulagu prepared to move on Eygpt to avenge the defeat of his army (during his absence) at the Battle of Ain Jalut, Berke Khan had Kipchak raiding parties despoil lands considered part of the Il-Khanate. Enraged, Hulagu gathered his armies and marched north, and suffering severe defeat in an attempted invasion north of the Caucasus in 1263, after Berke Khan had lured him north, and away from the Holy Land

The Kipchak Khanate was known in Russia and Europe as the Golden Horde (Zolotaya Orda) because of the Golden colour of the Khan's tent. "Horde" refers to this, not to the Mongol hordes. "Golden" is thought to have had a similar meaning to "royal." Of all the Khanates, the Golden Horde ruled longest. Long after the Yuan Dynasty had been driven out of China, and Il Khanate of the Middle East had fallen, the descendants of Batu Khan continued to rule the Russian steppes. Russia was not to be free of them until the Great standing on the Ugra river, two centuries later. But ironically, while they held Russia in their grip, and could have done the same to Europe, they saved the Holy Land by allying themselves with the Mamluks, and preventing Hulagu Khan from ever being able to use his full army against the Mamluk Sultanate.

References
Morgan, David -- The Mongols, ISBN: 0-631-17563-6
Nicolle, David, -- The Mongol Warlords Brockhampton Press, 1998
Saunders, J.J. -- The History of the Mongol Conquests, Routledge & Kegan Paul Ltd, 1971, ISBN 0-8122-1766-7
Sicker, Martin -- The Islamic World in Ascendancy: From the Arab Conquests to the Siege of Vienna, Praeger Publishers, 2000
Soucek, Svatopluk -- A History of Inner Asia, Cambridge, 2000

External Source
http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/islam/mongols/goldenHorde.html 'The Islamic World to 1600: The Golden Horde'

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Painting from the Wiki page.


Prince Michael of Chernigov was passed between fires in accordance with ancient Turco-Mongol tradition. Batu Khan stabbed him to death for his refusal to do obeisance to Genghis Khan's shrine in the pagan ritual.


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Note that Genghis Khan is depicted as a Black Mongol.

Are we once again being lied to - this time by the the Chinese?

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Doxie,

Those were some serious butt kicking warriors....

Sent Whites running twice.

Once as Huns and again as Mongols.....

Both times they seem to lose interest in finishing the job and take Europe entirely.

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Kdolo, the Huns are still in Europe you know in HUNgary LOL. The Mongols only made it to Eastern Europe, you know the land of the Slavs whom the word slave comes from. White child hater please, the only people the Huns sent running was the Goths who were peaceful farmers until then and until the Romans started abusing & exploiting them.
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Are you saying that Hungarians arent white ???

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No Kdolo I'm not saying that, as the Huns were not originally from Hungary, they stole the land and stayed. I was just saying that they are still there. Ohhh btw, I was wrong, they also ran out the Vandals, Suevi, & Burgundians along with the Alans (Iranian type people). Funny though the only one of those people that were in Central Asia was the Alans LOL ROTFLMBO.


Ohh and Attila is a Gothic name meaning Father LOL.

Here is a description of Attila by Priscus.

Short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with grey; and he had a flat nose and tanned skin, showing evidence of his origin.

Sounds Asian to me LOL.

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THIS IS HOW ANCIENT WRITERS DESCRIBED ATTILA AND THE HUNS.

Jordanes - The Roman historian, in his book on the history of the Goths, called "Getica" (circa 551 A.D). In his book, he describes the Huns as: They made their foes flee in horror because their swarthy (black skinned) aspect was fearful, and they had, if I may call it so, a sort of hideous lump, not a head, with pinholes rather than eyes. For they cut the cheeks of the males with a sword, so that before they receive the nourishment of milk they must learn to endure wounds. Hence they grow old beardless and their young men are without comeliness, because a face furrowed by the sword spoils by its scars the mature beauty of a beard. It is also said that another common custom of the Huns was to strap their children's noses flat from an early age, in order to widen their faces, as to increase the terror their looks instilled upon their enemies.

The historian Priscus (circa 450 A.D.) was a Greek-speaking Roman citizen who often meant with Attila, and described Attila’s personal features: a short, square body with a large head; deep-seated eyes; a swarthy complexion with little facial hair. He wore plain, not luxurious, clothing.

Ammianus Marcellinus (325–391) was a fourth-century Roman historian. In his book Res Gestae (Rerum gestarum Libri XXXI), The people of the Huns, but little known from ancient records, dwelling beyond the Maeotic Sea near the ice-bound ocean, exceed every degree of savagery. Since there the cheeks of the children are deeply furrowed with the steel from their very birth, in order that the growth of hair, when it appears at the proper time, may be checked by the wrinkled scars, they grow old without beards and without any beauty, like eunuchs. They all have compact, strong limbs and thick necks, and are so monstrously ugly and misshapen, that one might take them for two-legged beasts or for the stumps, rough-hewn into images, that are used in putting sides to bridges. But although they have the form of men, however ugly, they are so hardy in their mode of life that they have no need of fire nor of savory food.


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The Huns

The Huns were a nomadic pastoral people from Mongolia eastern Asia who invaded Europe circa 370 A.D, and created an enormous empire centered in Germany. They were possibly the descendants of the Xiongnu, a northern people who were frequently at war with the Shang of China. Note, the Turkic, so-called "White Huns" (Hephthalites) had no direct connection with the Huns, these were White tribes who deliberately called themselves Huns, in order to frighten their enemies.

The Huns caused the Great Migration of White tribes westward into Europe from Asia, a contributing factor in the collapse of the Roman Empire, and leading directly to the creation of the modern "White" Europe. The Huns formed a unified empire under Attila the Hun, but when he died in 453 A.D; their empire broke up the next year.

The Roman historian Jordanes, in his book on the history of the Goths, called "Getica" (circa 551 A.D), gives this account as to why the White tribes (Germanics and Slavs - Turks came later) started westward into Europe.

Quote: But after a short space of time, as Orosius relates, the race of the Huns, fiercer than ferocity itself, flamed forth against the Goths. We learn from old traditions that their origin was as follows: Filimer, king of the Goths, son of Gadaric the Great, who was the fifth in succession to hold the rule of the Getae after their departure from the island of Scandza,--and who, as we have said, entered the land of Scythia with his tribe,--found among his people certain witches, whom he called in his native tongue Haliurunnae. Suspecting these women, he expelled them from the midst of his race and compelled them to wander in solitary exile afar from his army. (122) There the unclean spirits, who beheld them as they wandered through the wilderness, bestowed their embraces upon them and begat this savage race, which dwelt at first in the swamps,--a stunted, foul and puny tribe, scarcely human, and having no language save one which bore but slight resemblance to human speech. Such was the descent of the Huns who came to the country of the Goths.

(123) This cruel tribe, as Priscus the historian relates, settled on the farther bank of the Maeotic swamp. They were fond of hunting and had no skill in any other art. After they had grown to a nation, they disturbed the peace of neighboring races by theft and rapine. At one time, while hunters of their tribe were as usual seeking for game on the farthest edge of Maeotis, they saw a doe unexpectedly appear to their sight and enter the swamp, acting as guide of the way; now advancing and again standing still. (124) The hunters followed and crossed on foot the Maeotic swamp, which they had supposed was impassable as the sea. Presently the unknown land of Scythia disclosed itself and the doe disappeared. Now in my opinion the evil spirits, from whom the Huns are descended, did this from envy of the Scythians. (125) And the Huns, who had been wholly ignorant that there was another world beyond Maeotis, were now filled with admiration for the Scythian land. As they were quick of mind, they believed that this path, utterly unknown to any age of the past, had been divinely revealed to them. They returned to their tribe, told them what had happened, praised Scythia and persuaded the people to hasten thither along the way they had found by the guidance of the doe. As many as they captured, when they thus entered Scythia for the first time, they sacrificed to Victory. The remainder they conquered and made subject to themselves. (126) Like a whirlwind of nations they swept across the great swamp and at once fell upon the Alpidzuri, Alcildzuri, Itimari, Tuncarsi and Boisci, who bordered on that part of Scythia. The Alani also, who were their equals in battle, but unlike them in civilization, manners and appearance, they exhausted by their incessant attacks and subdued. (127) For by the terror of their features they inspired great fear in those whom perhaps they did not really surpass in war. They made their foes flee in horror because their swarthy aspect was fearful, and they had, if I may call it so, a sort of shapeless lump, not a head, with pin-holes rather than eyes. Their hardihood is evident in their wild appearance, and they are beings who are cruel to their children on the very day they are born. For they cut the cheeks of the males with a sword, so that before they receive the nourishment of milk they must learn to endure wounds. (128) Hence they grow old beardless and their young men are without comeliness, because a face furrowed by the sword spoils by its scars the natural beauty of a beard. They are short in stature, quick in bodily movement, alert horsemen, broad shouldered, ready in the use of bow and arrow, and have firm-set necks which are ever erect in pride. Though they live in the form of men, they have the cruelty of wild beasts.

(129) When the Getae beheld this active race that had invaded many nations, they took fright and consulted with their king how they might escape from such a foe. Now although Hermanaric, king of the Goths, was the conqueror of many tribes, as we have said above, yet while he was deliberating on this invasion of the Huns, the treacherous tribe of the Rosomoni, who at that time were among those who owed him their homage, took this chance to catch him unawares. For when the king had given orders that a certain woman of the tribe I have mentioned, Sunilda by name, should be bound to wild horses and torn apart by driving them at full speed in opposite directions (for he was roused to fury by her husband's treachery to him), her brothers Sarus and Ammius came to avenge their sister's death and plunged a sword into Hermanaric's side. Enfeebled by this blow, he dragged out a miserable existence in bodily weakness. (130) Balamber, king of the Huns, took advantage of his ill health to move an army into the country of the Ostrogoths, from whom the Visigoths had already separated because of some dispute. Meanwhile Hermanaric, who was unable to endure either the pain of his wound or the inroads of the Huns, died full of days at the great age of one hundred and ten years. The fact of his death enabled the Huns to prevail over those Goths who, as we have said, dwelt in the East and were called Ostrogoths.

(131) The Visigoths, who were their other allies and inhabitants of the western country, were terrified as their kinsmen had been, and knew not how to plan for safety against the race of the Huns. After long deliberation by common consent they finally sent ambassadors into Romania to the Emperor Valens, brother of Valentinian, the elder Emperor, to say that if he would give them part of Thrace or Moesia to keep, they would submit themselves to his laws and commands. That he might have greater confidence in them, they promised to become Christians, if he would give them teachers who spoke their language. (132) When Valens learned this, he gladly and promptly granted what he had himself intended to ask. He received the Getae into the region of Moesia and placed them there as a wall of defense for his kingdom against other tribes. And since at that time the Emperor Valens, who was infected with the Arian perfidy, had closed all the churches of our party, he sent as preachers to them those who favored his sect. They came and straightway filled a rude and ignorant people with the poison of their heresy. Thus the Emperor Valens made the Visigoths Arians rather than Christians. (133) Moreover, from the love they bore them, they preached the gospel both to the Ostrogoths and to their kinsmen the Gepidae, teaching them to reverence this heresy, and they invited all people of their speech everywhere to attach themselves to this sect. They themselves as we have said, crossed the Danube and settled Dacia Ripensis, Moesia and Thrace by permission of the Emperor.



The Byzantine historian Zosimus (491-518), In his book "Historia Nova" gives this account as to why the White tribes (Germanics and Slavs) started westward into Europe.

Quote: While these affairs were so conducted, a barbarous nation, which till then had remained unknown, suddenly made its appearance, attacking the Scythians beyond the Ister. These were the Huns. It is doubtful whether they were Scythians, who lived under regal government, or the people whom Herodotus states to reside near the Ister, and describes as a weak people with flat noses, or whether they came into Europe from Asia. For I have met with, a tradition, which relates that the Cimmerian Bosphorus was rendered firm land by mud brought down the Tanais, by which they were originally afforded a land-passage from Asia into Europe. However this might be, they, with their wives, children, horses, and carriages, invaded the Scythians who resided on the Ister; and though they were not capable of fighting on foot, nor understood in what, manner even to walk, since they could not fix their feet firmly on the ground, but live perpetually, and even sleep, on horseback, yet by the rapidity with which they wheeled about their horses, by the suddenness of their excursions and retreat, shooting as they rode, they occasioned great slaughter among the Scythians. In this they were so incessant, that the surviving Scythians were compelled to leave their habitations to these Huns, and crossing the Ister, to supplicate the emperor to receive them, on their promise to adhere to him as faithful soldiers. The officers of the fortified towns near the Ister deferred complying with this petition, until they should learn the pleasure of the emperor, who permitted them to be received without their arms. The tribunes and other officers therefore went over to bring the Barbarians unarmed into the Roman territory; but occupied themselves solely in the gratification of their brutal appetites, or in procuring slaves, neglecting every thing that related to public affairs. A considerable number therefore crossed over with their arms, through this negligence. These, on arriving into the Roman dominion, forgot both their petition and their oaths. Thus all Thrace, Pannonia, and the whole country as far as Macedon and Thessaly were filled with Barbarians, who pillaged all in their way.

The historian Priscus was a Greek-speaking Roman citizen who often meant with Attila, and described Attila’s personal features: a short, square body with a large head; deep-seated eyes; a swarthy complexion with little facial hair. He wore plain, not luxurious, clothing.

According to Priscus, Attila had invited him to have dinner with him, the historian was then able to closely observe the ruler’s interactions with others. He was courteous to ambassadors, although he viewed only other rulers as his equal. He seemed to be a loving father, at least to one of his sons, and allowed his first wife to have a position of dignity.

Priscus writes: When the hour, 3:00 in the afternoon, arrived we went to the palace, along with the embassy from the western Romans, and stood on the threshold of the hall in the presence of Attila...Attila sat in the middle on a couch...A luxurious meal, served on silver plate, had been made ready for us and the barbarian guests, but Attila ate nothing but meat on a wooden trencher. In everything else, too, he showed himself temperate; his cup was of wood, while to the guests were given goblets of gold and silver. His dress, too, was quite simple, affecting only to be clean. The sword he carried at his side, the latchets of his Scythian shoes, the bridle of his horse were not adorned, like those of the other Scythians, with gold or gems or anything costly.

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Mike give it up already White child hater. The Huns did NOT push the Goths or any Germanic people into Europe from Asia as we are NOT from Asia. They pushed the Goths from an area between the Danube & Carpathian Mts NOT Central Asia you dumb assed Anti-White child, Pro-White genocide,Black racist, Black supremacist demon from hell.
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quote:
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Mike give it up already White child hater. The Huns did NOT push the Goths or any Germanic people into Europe from Asia as we are NOT from Asia. They pushed the Goths from an area between the Danube & Carpathian Mts NOT Central Asia you dumb assed Anti-White child, Pro-White genocide,Black racist, Black supremacist demon from hell.

Doxie dear, the cited books are available on the internet, please show where I lied or misrepresented.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Painting from the Wiki page.


Prince Michael of Chernigov was passed between fires in accordance with ancient Turco-Mongol tradition. Batu Khan stabbed him to death for his refusal to do obeisance to Genghis Khan's shrine in the pagan ritual.


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Note that Genghis Khan is depicted as a Black Mongol.

Are we once again being lied to - this time by the the Chinese?

Am I the only one amused by the duality of the Albinos duplicity?

Note that Genghis Khan is correctly depicted as a Black man. Whereas his grandson Batu Khan is depicted as a White man with just a hint of Asian.

He,he,he,he:

Doxie's people have been at this sh1t of making historical people look like them (Albinos), for a long time.

(As to Genghis Khan: Albinos will not depict a great historical figure as Black, unless he was very,very, Black: and they figured that everyone knew it).

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The above got me thinking about this scroll depicting another of Genghis Khans grandsons - Kublai Khan.


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Note in this close-up that Kublai Khan has no hands, and the sleeves of his coat are "Unnatural".


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He,he,he,he:

Why those inscrutable Chinese, they have joined the Albinos in overpainting artifacts to make them appear White of at least "Less Black".


Here is a blow-up of the entire scroll:


http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/China_scroll_big.htm

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Great Info Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Painting from the Wiki page.


Prince Michael of Chernigov was passed between fires in accordance with ancient Turco-Mongol tradition. Batu Khan stabbed him to death for his refusal to do obeisance to Genghis Khan's shrine in the pagan ritual.


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Note that Genghis Khan is depicted as a Black Mongol.

Are we once again being lied to - this time by the the Chinese?

Am I the only one amused by the duality of the Albinos duplicity?

Note that Genghis Khan is correctly depicted as a Black man. Whereas his grandson Batu Khan is depicted as a White man with just a hint of Asian.

He,he,he,he:

Doxie's people have been at this sh1t of making historical people look like them (Albinos), for a long time.

(As to Genghis Khan: Albinos will not depict a great historical figure as Black, unless he was very,very, Black: and they figured that everyone knew it).

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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:

Dark skinned Asians are not Blacks.



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Mike cut the bull **** you White child hating dumbass. You added in the part about Asia those are your words not what was written and I know it. Cut the albino bull **** too, we are NOT albinos and we have not painted over or faked any artifact in Europe you dumbass moron. As I said before go find your own dang history in AFRICA and leave ours & everyone elses' alone.
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Oh my, Oh my:

We found out that the original Greeks weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


We found out that the original Romans weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


And now we found out that the original Rus (Russians) weren't even Albinos.


Oh when, Oh when, are the Albinos going to stop trying to fool us poor Darkies?


BEHOLD THE "REAL" PRINCE MICHAEL OF CHERNIGOV!

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Understand Mike and Also Understand TRUTH NO PEOPLE HAVE DARKSKIN!!!!!

SKIN IS BLACK!!! NOT DARK!!!

Understand what dark entails before you use the gehazis, modern pharisees, principalities terms for Other Peoples Color!!!

Think Please

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quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
Understand Mike and Also Understand TRUTH NO PEOPLE HAVE DARKSKIN!!!!!

SKIN IS BLACK!!! NOT DARK!!!

Understand what dark entails before you use the gehazis, modern pharisees, principalities terms for Other Peoples Color!!!

Think Please

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Likewise TRUTH NO PEOPLE HAVE LIGHT SKIN!!!!!

SKIN IS WHITE!!! NOT LIGHT!!

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^^^ This is fake painting made over 400 years after the death of Michael Chernigov

It was made in 1650 two years after after the end of the Thirty Years War in 1648 when whites took over Europe having killed off the blacks

Mike, stop showing us fakes

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Note in this close-up that Kublai Khan has no hands, and the sleeves of his coat are "Unnatural".


He,he,he,he:

Why those inscrutable Chinese, they have joined the Albinos in overpainting artifacts to make them appear White of at least "Less Black".



yep, that makes sense
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http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-72.jpg
Black Hungarian Atila and Black Roman Emperor.
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http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-30.jpg
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Mike cut the bull **** you White child hating dumbass. You added in the part about Asia those are your words not what was written and I know it. Cut the albino bull **** too, we are NOT albinos and we have not painted over or faked any artifact in Europe you dumbass moron. As I said before go find your own dang history in AFRICA and leave ours & everyone elses' alone.

He,he,he,he,he:
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Mike I think you need glasses if you think the person in that painting looks Black, his skin color in that painting isn't the least bit brown but looks just like any other White persons' skin.
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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Mike I think you need glasses if you think the person in that painting looks Black, his skin color in that painting isn't the least bit brown but looks just like any other White persons' skin.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha:

Been taking lessons from Lioness huh?


The Albinos Creed:

The BIGGER the Lie, the BETTER the Lie!

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Mike111: "...original Rus (Russians) weren't even Albinos"


rus red rusty/ruddy

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Mike I think you need glasses if you think the person in that painting looks Black, his skin color in that painting isn't the least bit brown but looks just like any other White persons' skin.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha:

Been taking lessons from Lioness huh?


The Albinos Creed:

The BIGGER the Lie, the BETTER the Lie!

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How about this one Doxie, is he White too????


He,he,he,he:

Please note the difference in color between his face and the halo around his head.

Ha,ha,ha,ha:

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Ezekiel 40:2-4

IN A VISION OF GOD he took me to the land of Israel and put me on a Very High Mountain, on Whose South Side were Some buildings that Looked like a City

He Took me there, and I SAW A MAN whose APPEARANCE WAS LIKE BRONZE, He was standing in the gateway with a Linen cord and a measuring rod in his hands


THE MAN SAID TO ME , "Son of man, look Carefully and Listen Closely and Pay attention to all Things I am going to show you" , for that is why you have been brought here. TELL PEOPLE OF ISRAEL ALL THINGS YOU SEE!!!


Hope people are Aware!!!


EDIT:

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" The Kipchak Khanate was known in Russia and Europe as the Golden Horde (Zolotaya Orda) because of the Golden colour of the Khan's tent. "Horde" refers to this, not to the Mongol hordes. "Golden" is thought to have had a similar meaning to "royal." "
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Zolotaya/yellow/golden/royal/reign/shallow(sand)

kelev(Hebrew) (yellow-coated) dog

Xyambuatlaya - sky/sun/shine + bound/bias

note: Sarai (Volga R) = Sarai/Sarah (Genesis)

note: Khan's sleeves are an overcoat (bulky), the other person's coat is normal.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Oh my, Oh my:

We found out that the original Greeks weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


We found out that the original Romans weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


And now we found out that the original Rus (Russians) weren't even Albinos.


Oh when, Oh when, are the Albinos going to stop trying to fool us poor Darkies?

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KING - Are Albinos also the children of God?

If so, why do they do such terrible things to other children of God?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Oh my, Oh my:

We found out that the original Greeks weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


We found out that the original Romans weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


And now we found out that the original Rus (Russians) weren't even Albinos.


Oh when, Oh when, are the Albinos going to stop trying to fool us poor Darkies?

.


KING - Are Albinos also the children of God?

If so, why do they do such terrible things to other children of God?

Bin Repped From the jump Black, Red, Yellow, And White. From that Mix Comes Brown.

Real Whites are NOT racist!!!

Real Whites are NOT Goofy!!!

Real Whites are NOT homosexual battybwoys!!!

Edit:

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quote:
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:

note: Khan's sleeves are an overcoat (bulky), the other person's coat is normal.

Idiot, how would you know.

Confucius say: He who invites insult with stupid comments, gets insults!

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look at the picture...

Thanks for the yellow words, though, links nicely to the first domesticated animal.

zolotaya(Russian) yellow/amarillo/aura/avra/ abra .ham
xolo(Aztec) ancient dog
keleb(Hebrew) yellow dog

Mela(Greek: black), Negra(Latin: black), Yellow(English) all clearly derive from the Bambuti Pygmy word for dome hut mongolu .

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quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Oh my, Oh my:

We found out that the original Greeks weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


We found out that the original Romans weren't Albinos but rather Blacks.


And now we found out that the original Rus (Russians) weren't even Albinos.


Oh when, Oh when, are the Albinos going to stop trying to fool us poor Darkies?

.


KING - Are Albinos also the children of God?

If so, why do they do such terrible things to other children of God?

Bin Repped From the jump Black, Red, Yellow, And White. From that Mix Comes Brown.

Real Whites are NOT racist!!!

Real Whites are NOT Goofy!!!

Real Whites are NOT homosexual battybwoys!!!

Edit:

Just as Doxie is our resident expert on all things White:

You are our resident expert on all things Christian.

So please pardon my uncertainty:

Are you sure it's not because they are just some sick MFs?

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Apologies:

Further research at a Russian site offers this description of the painting.



The Appearance of the Archangel Michael to Joshua Navin. The icon supposed to be the temple icon of Archangel Church, erected by Prince Michael Khorobrit (The Brave) on the place of Archangel Cathedral of the Moscow Kremlin. Second quarter of the XIII century. Assumption Cathedral of the Moscow Kremlin.


The "Michael (archangel)" page on Wiki would seem to support the Russian description.


Since we already knew that the real Hebrews and Christians were Blacks, this is nothing new.

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Yes Mike that angel is also depicted as White. Of course I'm an expert on everything White Mike I AM WHITE so I should be. Mike according to you everybody who ever did anything in history was Black, of course according to you Whites are inferior, non-humans, who have no history, no heritage, no homeland, no right to any kind of racial pride, no right to knowledge of self, no right to self determination or self rule, & have never accomplished/built anything or done anything great. That is because you hate Whites with a passion you can't control, you wish to harm White children, & live for the day when you see the last White person take their last breath.
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^Poor Doxie, delusional in every way.

Tell you what dear, show me some White people with full lips and dark skin like that, then I will consider what you say.

Btw folks, the Central Asian Albinos heading west into Europe, hit Russian first.

That's why you see the Mulatto look so early in this art (1200s).

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As a reminder, the original Russians looked like this.


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Mike give it up already. White people are NOT Albinos and we are NOT Central Asian, we didn't come into Europe we were already there what don't you seem to get about that. What big lips Mike, the lips are so degraded you can't see them. Show me an angel with dark wings LOL. Where's the proof Mike, why won't you provide the proof. Delusional? Pot meet kettle. I spoke nothing but the truth. All of this is the truth. According to you everybody who ever did anything in history was Black, of course according to you Whites are inferior, non-humans, who have no history, no heritage, no homeland, no right to any kind of racial pride, no right to knowledge of self, no right to self determination or self rule, & have never accomplished/built anything or done anything great. That is because you hate Whites with a passion you can't control, you wish to harm White children, & live for the day when you see the last White person take their last breath. What is delusional about what I said Mike??
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Poor Doxie, delusional in every way.

Tell you what dear, show me some White people with full lips and dark skin like that, then I will consider what you say.

Btw folks, the Central Asian Albinos heading west into Europe, hit Russian first.

That's why you see the Mulatto look so early in this art (1200s).

.

As a reminder, the original Russians looked like this.


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^^^ notice the changes in features as per the time periods
The top two people have broad features
34-36,000 years ago


However when we get to 26,000 year the features have evolved into this
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^^^ This resembles a modern Russian
more than an African or Austrailan as did the previous two
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Look again at the two people at the top of the post 34-36,000 years ago
Then at the thrid reconstruction Sungir man 10,000 years closer to today, 26,000 year old

It's a good demonstration of the transformation of features in Europe over thousands of years

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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
.... White people are NOT Albinos and we are NOT Central Asian, ..blah..blah baaaaah

Raph, enuff of that already!
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Poor Doxie, delusional in every way.

Tell you what dear, show me some White people with full lips and dark skin like that, then I will consider what you say.

Btw folks, the Central Asian Albinos heading west into Europe, hit Russian first.

That's why you see the Mulatto look so early in this art (1200s).

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As a reminder, the original Russians looked like this.


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^^^ notice the changes in features as per the time periods
The top two people have broad features
34-36,000 years ago


However when we get to 26,000 year the features have evolved into this
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^^^ This resembles a modern Russian
more than an African or Austrailan as did the previous two
.
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Look again at the two people at the top of the post 34-36,000 years ago
Then at the thrid reconstruction Sungir man 10,000 years closer to today, 26,000 year old

It's a good demonstration of the transformation of features in Europe over thousands of years

The lips are African gifts [Big Grin] ....

I gonna help you comprehend better:

Here is what albino Hooton wrote in 1946 -

1. WHITE ("EUROPEAN," "EUR-AFRICAN," "CAUCASOID')

Sorting Criteria:
1. Skin color: light brown(olive, pale white, pink, ruddy
2. Hair color: rarely dead black, all lighter shades
3. Eye color: never black, all lighter shades
4. hair form: never woolly, usually wavy or straight, sometimes loosely curled

Other Characters:
...

8. Membranous lip thickness: medium to thin, little eversion

....

Up from the ape. by Hooton, Earnest Albert, 1887-1954. Published 1946

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^Lioness is such a stupid Bitch, I don't even bother responding.
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Originally posted by Mike111:

"Note in this close-up that Kublai Khan has no hands, and the sleeves of his coat are "Unnatural"."

Mike111 has never ridden a horse in winter. Long sleeve overcoat/duster allows hands to hold reins in sub-freezing weather on long rides, keeping them warm (better than gloves or mitts) for instant bow shooting when necessary, also used by couriers on the Mongolian Yam (coast to coast pony express) for document work and playwrights to stash papers.

note: Yam (Mongol) coast to coast message service
note: Yam (Hebrew) coast to coast pool or sea

Mike111, get out of your cubical, go for a walk or a ride on a pony.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Lioness is such a stupid Bitch, I don't even bother responding.

It's just an instigator, and it's purpose is to give something to the site's white reactionary readers while prompting additional responses to maintain the thread.
Just think of it as an internet AI (Artificial Instigator) spider.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Poor Doxie, delusional in every way.

Tell you what dear, show me some White people with full lips and dark skin like that, then I will consider what you say.

Btw folks, the Central Asian Albinos heading west into Europe, hit Russian first.

That's why you see the Mulatto look so early in this art (1200s).

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As a reminder, the original Russians looked like this.


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^^^ notice the changes in features as per the time periods
The top two people have broad features
34-36,000 years ago


However when we get to 26,000 year the features have evolved into this
 -

^^^ This resembles a modern Russian
more than an African or Austrailan as did the previous two
.
 -  -

Look again at the two people at the top of the post 34-36,000 years ago
Then at the thrid reconstruction Sungir man 10,000 years closer to today, 26,000 year old

It's a good demonstration of the transformation of features in Europe over thousands of years

Are you telling us that he looks like an ordinary white man?
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note: Yam (Mongol) coast to coast message service

note: Yam (Hebrew) coast to coast pool or sea

note: Yamania (Aztec) coast to coast non-turbulent (smooth, lack of mountain ranges between capes)

note: O.X.Yambuatlaya o/cean blue, cyan(blue) seabound

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xyambuatlaya

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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Kdolo, the Huns are still in Europe you know in HUNgary LOL. The Mongols only made it to Eastern Europe, you know the land of the Slavs whom the word slave comes from. White child hater please, the only people the Huns sent running was the Goths who were peaceful farmers until then and until the Romans started abusing & exploiting them.

Who Were the Huns?:

The Huns were a group of nomadic (roaming) herdsmen, warlike people from the steppes (grasslands) of North Central Asia north of China (Mongolia) who terrorized, pillaged, and destroyed much of Asia and Europe from the 3rd through 5th centuries. The use of the stirrup gave the Huns a technological advantage over other warriors of the time. Stirrups are loops hung from a saddle that support a horse rider's feet; these let the Huns brace themselves on their horses while wielding swords or shooting arrows.


http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/greatwall/


http://youtu.be/SQYigCUcZjg

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quote:
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
note: Yam (Mongol) coast to coast message service

note: Yam (Hebrew) coast to coast pool or sea

note: Yamania (Aztec) coast to coast non-turbulent (smooth, lack of mountain ranges between capes)

note: O.X.Yambuatlaya o/cean blue, cyan(blue) seabound

quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri:
From Dakhla down to Yam? – New Light on the Abu Ballas Trail

Rudolph Kuper, Frank Förster, Heiko Riemer

When the Abu Ballas Trail was discovered in 1999/2000,
this most ancient Egyptian desert road was followed up
by Carlo Bergmann from Dakhla Oasis as far as the Gilf
Kebir plateau and subsequently investigated and
documented by the ACACIA Project of the University
of Cologne. Its final destination, however, remained
a matter of speculation: Kufra (as Almásy suggested)?
Darfur? Or via Jebel Ouenat to Ennedi?

Now in 2008 Mark Borda and Mahmoud Marei found in
south-eastern Jebel Ouenat a hieroglyphic rock inscription
mentioning the founder of the Middle Kingdom, Pharaoh
Mentuhotep II (11th Dynasty, 2046 - 1995 BC), and two
countries bringing “tributes” to him: Yam and Tekhebet(en).
This brings up again the much-discussed question about the
location of Yam, recorded as the target of the trade expeditions
of Harkhuf, 6th Dynasty governor of Upper Egypt, and placed by
most authors somewhere in Nubia. Now it may be located 600
km west of the Nile Valley in Jebel Ouenat itself (?) or even
further south in Darfur or in the Ennedi mountains in Chad,
impressively demonstrating ancient Egypt’s far-reaching
political ties and another “Corridor to Africa”.
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The yam is a staple food in many tropical countries, particularly in Africa, the Caribbean and the South Pacific. Yams have brown tough skins and the flesh can vary in colour – anything from white to yellow to purple – depending on the variety.


The term 'yam' is often used in American to describe the sweeter, orange sweet potato.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/yam


Yam dirived from Nyami.

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