You should know as a black woman, lol being on Egypt Search, for over 5 years.
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Black people are oppressed simply because they allow themselves to be oppressed. Whites don't oppress blacks because of their dark skin color. Rather whites oppress blacks because of whites being albinos and having white skin color.
Correction:
Albinos have the whole world using their language and even using their flawed thought processes.
Contrary to what albinos have indoctrinated you to believe, WHITE is NOT a colour. Rather, White is the complete absence of color. Therefore, it is not a color, but colourless. Get it?
Black, is NOT a color. Black is the complete adsorption of all colors. Once these colors are consolidated, they form black which reflects all light, thus giving no reflection. Black is not a color but moreso, a state of existence.
So, we have light (white) and dark (black) at each end of the spectrum, and in between, colors.
Of course these are ideals, and albinos are rarely "white" and blacks are rarely "black".
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False. Black people are oppressed because of their inability to present themselves as formidable contenders in this highly competitive, social, economic, technological, political and intellectual, global market. Laws of nature dictate the strong survives while the weak is pushed to the wayside.
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quote:Originally posted by Real tawk: False. Black people are oppressed because of their inability to present themselves as formidable contenders in this highly competitive, social, economic, technological, political and intellectual, global market. Laws of nature dictate the strong survives while the weak is pushed to the wayside.
lol at "Laws of nature dictate the strong survives while the weak is pushed to the wayside."
What has this to do with the law of nature?
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
quote:"Slavery by Another Name is a 90-minute documentary that challenges one of Americans’ most cherished assumptions: the belief that slavery in this country ended with the Emancipation Proclamation. The film tells how even as chattel slavery came to an end in the South in 1865, thousands of African Americans were pulled back into forced labor with shocking force and brutality. It was a system in which men, often guilty of no crime at all, were arrested, compelled to work without pay, repeatedly bought and sold, and coerced to do the bidding of masters. Tolerated by both the North and South, forced labor lasted well into the 20th century.
For most Americans this is entirely new history. Slavery by Another Name gives voice to the largely forgotten victims and perpetrators of forced labor and features their descendants living today."
quote:Originally posted by Real tawk: False. Black people are oppressed because of their inability to present themselves as formidable contenders in this highly competitive, social, economic, technological, political and intellectual, global market. Laws of nature dictate the strong survives while the weak is pushed to the wayside.
lol at "Laws of nature dictate the strong survives while the weak is pushed to the wayside."
What has this to do with the law of nature?
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
quote:"Slavery by Another Name is a 90-minute documentary that challenges one of Americans’ most cherished assumptions: the belief that slavery in this country ended with the Emancipation Proclamation. The film tells how even as chattel slavery came to an end in the South in 1865, thousands of African Americans were pulled back into forced labor with shocking force and brutality. It was a system in which men, often guilty of no crime at all, were arrested, compelled to work without pay, repeatedly bought and sold, and coerced to do the bidding of masters. Tolerated by both the North and South, forced labor lasted well into the 20th century.
For most Americans this is entirely new history. Slavery by Another Name gives voice to the largely forgotten victims and perpetrators of forced labor and features their descendants living today."
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LOL What has the above argument to do with the following? Why do you now run away from these facts? How is it blacks created the social perception everyone holds of them? When it's a racist system who created this. lol The older data only describes the former conditions. I leaned the facts on the table, and now it's hard to swallow. The more you try to justify these historical wrong doings, the more we can see your sick cognitive dissonance pattern.
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
Tell, would you mind if all of the above was reverse, with whites in the position of blacks? And blacks committing these action on whites? Would you be ok with that?
How is this justified, a case like hundreds and perhaps thousands of others? And you are getting exposed.
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quote:Originally posted by Real tawk: Blacks created the social perception everyone holds of them. own up to your ish, buddy.
See, according to historical documentation, as I already have posted, the many social studies as I already have posted, and cellphone camera recordings we see nowadays, you're apparently wrong. Speaking of "creating a social perception". lol And the many devastating reports are on several departments. We now known this all over the globe.
quote:Ferguson police report: Most shocking parts, March 5, 2015.
Ferguson Mayor James Knowles said the city "must do better" to address racism after a stunning Department of Justice report revealed a range of abuses committed against African American residents by the city's police force.
quote: So far, a disproportionate amount of press attention has focused on racist emails circulated by Ferguson officials, causing two to be fired and one to be placed on leave. While the correspondence in question is deeply offensive and worthy of condemnation, it is nowhere close to the most objectionable transgression documented in the DOJ report, which ought to prompt multiple Ferguson officials to resign in disgrace and provoke condemnations from across the political spectrum.
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You will lose, seriously. As long as you keep looking to blame others, you will lose. Either you compete in this global game or be consigned to the history books. Look at what happened to the Tasmanians. Nature is very unforgiving.
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quote:Originally posted by Real tawk: You will lose, seriously. As long as you keep looking to blame others, you will lose. Either you compete in this global game or be consigned to the history books. Look at what happened to the Tasmanians. Nature is very unforgiving.
I am going to ask you again, would you be ok with the same treatment for whites, as you have done with blacks in America, throughout American history? As I have described in the previous posts, well documented.
It's a simple question. What do you have to lose by answering this?
I am not talking about Tasmanians, or me supposedly "losing". lol Don't derail the topic. But answer my question, so we can come to an agreement. A final agreement. Let me see how REAL your TAWK is, seriously!
Posts: 22244 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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quote:Originally posted by Real tawk: You will lose, seriously. As long as you keep looking to blame others, you will lose. Either you compete in this global game or be consigned to the history books. Look at what happened to the Tasmanians. Nature is very unforgiving.
I am going to ask you again, would you be ok with the same treatment for whites, as you have done with blacks in America, throughout American history? As I have described in the previous posts, well documented.
It's a simple question. What do you have to lose by answering this?
I am not talking about Tasmanians, or me supposedly "losing". lol Don't derail the topic. But answer my question, so we can come to an agreement. A final agreement. Let me see how REAL your TAWK is, seriously!
I would not have an issue with it as I would place it in proper context, that being, history. I don't hold grudges against a race over historical events. This is a major character flaw in many Blacks which will do them in as a collective, eventually.
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^ Real tawk, how come your tawk is not so Real now?
You are buck-dancing around the question. While it's a simple one.
Would you be ok with the same treatment for whites, as you have done with blacks in America, throughout American history? As I have described, well documented. This is a historical pattern which continued till this day, so I have no idea of what past you speak.
For example, the following, would you not mind, if blacks did this to whites? I mean, nobody gave them a choice.
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
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This is a major character flaw in many Blacks which will do them in as a collective, eventually.
I'm not sure what you mean, are you saying this was justified? Are you saying this had no cause and effect? And are you saying you whould be ok with this is was done to whites? Reminder, nobody gave them a choice.
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Blacks are oppressed internationally on account of their low status in economic, technological, and self-referential matters. Individual blacks of much achievement in particular areas do garner much respect--especially in the areas of music and sport.
Asians such as the Chinese and Japanese are placed on a higher cachet than blacks in technological and economic matters on account of their prowess in these areas.
In general, humans are judged according to how their cultures perform technologically and economically. Given that what separates humans from other animals is their collective and individual skills in technological advancement and creativity--all expressed collectively in the form of culture, blacks are seen to be lacking in this area given the ascendancy of European and East Asian cultures.
Until African nations are seen to be progressing in the area of economics, political arrangements, and technology, the status of blacks as a collective would be seen to be diminished.
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Albinos are interesting. They dont even consider their degeneracy to be degenrate.....they accept it as their nature. It appeqrs then that the problem they have is that you are nor allowed to point it out.
quote:Originally posted by lamin: Blacks are oppressed internationally on account of their low status in economic, technological, and self-referential matters. Individual blacks of much achievement in particular areas do garner much respect--especially in the areas of music and sport.
Asians such as the Chinese and Japanese are placed on a higher cachet than blacks in technological and economic matters on account of their prowess in these areas.
In general, humans are judged according to how their cultures perform technologically and economically. Given that what separates humans from other animals is their collective and individual skills in technological advancement and creativity--all expressed collectively in the form of culture, blacks are seen to be lacking in this area given the ascendancy of European and East Asian cultures.
Until African nations are seen to be progressing in the area of economics, political arrangements, and technology, the status of blacks as a collective would be seen to be diminished.
The reason why Japan and China do well, is because of a western imperialistic mistake, ..... I heard CNN anker journalist Jonathan Mann once say, we made a mistake by letting the Asian Tiger grow, now it's uncontrollable. We will not make that mistake with the African Lion. This was somewhere in the mid-90's.
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quote:Originally posted by kdolo: "Nature is very unforgiving"
Albinos are interesting. They dont even consider their degeneracy to be degenrate.....they accept it as their nature. It appeqrs then that the problem they have is that you are nor allowed to point it out.
Nature is unforgiving.....i agree.
Let Real Tawk, talk. Real Tawk says that doing terror upon others is ok, as long as it is in the right context. I like to know what this right context is suppose to be. This, to me is of major importance.
Let it come natural.
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Blacks are oppressed world wide, because they're seen as Ugly, Stupid, and Uncivilized People.
Some blacks are seen as very strong physically, but our world is run by Brains Not Brawn!!
Humans run this whole planet, that we call earth, not because we're stronger than the other creatures, but because we're Smarter than them and able to work together, learn from each other, and therefore, advance our world.
Blacks are seen in many circles around the world as Animals, who're Strong, but mainly Stupid and Resentful Uncivilized People.
Like Animals, Blacks Are Inferior Humans!!
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: True or False ?
Black people are oppressed world wide mainly because of their skin color
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"Blacks are oppressed world wide, because they're seen as Ugly, Stupid, and Uncivilized People. Some blacks are seen as very strong physically, but our world is run by Brains Not Brawn!! Like Animals, Blacks Are Inferior Humans!! "
The full extent of Albino degeneracy and delusion appear to have no limit
Unfortunately, your delusion does not change your biological reality.
the defect and "inferiority" if you will is plain to see. no conjecture needed.
As for your being civilized, please understand who you got the notion from.....this is you when u encountered it ...
THE U.S. SPENDS MORE ON DEFENSE THAN THE NEXT SEVEN COUNTRIES COMBINED
It appears that for the Albino, once a barbarian always a barbarian...
the fundamental quandry then is: how can a creature who cant even go out into the sun be "superior"....
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It appears that for the Albino, once a barbarian always a barbarian...
the fundamental quandry then is: how can a creature who cant even go out into the sun be "superior".... You should ask yourself, a simple question: Why are Blacks such a basket case of poverty, under educated, and mostly ignorant people?
You worship "white" people, because they gave you everything that you treasure in life.
Get off your high horse and for once admit the real truth, that will set you free from your inner feelings of being inferior to whites.Posts: 1061 | From: Laos | Registered: Jun 2012
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People seem to have the impression white people are walking around with sunburn all the time
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quote:Originally posted by viceroy: Blacks are oppressed world wide, because they're seen as Ugly, Stupid, and Uncivilized People.
Some blacks are seen as very strong physically, but our world is run by Brains Not Brawn!!
Humans run this whole planet, that we call earth, not because we're stronger than the other creatures, but because we're Smarter than them and able to work together, learn from each other, and therefore, advance our world.
Blacks are seen in many circles around the world as Animals, who're Strong, but mainly Stupid and Resentful Uncivilized People.
Like Animals, Blacks Are Inferior Humans!!
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: True or False ?
Black people are oppressed world wide mainly because of their skin color
I welcome your response, thanks. We really need to get to the core of this.
However, we still have this dilemma, is your view, just your view or that of a few, many or every single one of whites? I'll take it that you're a white individual and are a spokesman for all whites.
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This is not my actual view, but the known expressed view by many people who are not black.
Many Chinese and other people hold similar views about people who are considered lazy, ugly, and stupid.
My race or nationality has nothing to do with these facts. If you wish to hide your head in the sand and see the world through rose colored glasses, that is your choice, but I would not condone it.
In order for blacks to be, even considered for jobs in the U.S. and other nations, they've had to hide their ugliness and make themselves a little more acceptable to society at large.
Those big afros are great for parties, but in the real world of business, your black ass will never get hired for even menial jobs. Posts: 1061 | From: Laos | Registered: Jun 2012
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quote:Originally posted by viceroy: This is not my actual view, but the known expressed view by many people who are not black.
Many Chinese and other people hold similar views about people who are considered lazy, ugly, and stupid.
My race or nationality has nothing to do with these facts. If you wish to hide your head in the sand and see the world through rose colored glasses, that is your choice, but I would not condone it.
In order for blacks to be, even considered for jobs in the U.S. and other nations, they've had to hide their ugliness and make themselves a little more acceptable to society at large.
Those big afros are great for parties, but in the real world of business, your black ass will never get hired for even menial jobs.
I am well aware of these expressions. As I said, all has cause and effect. Nothing comes from nothing. Not the law of nature, but manmade law.
In order for blacks to be, even considered for jobs in the U.S. and other nations, they've had to hide their ugliness and make themselves a little more acceptable to society at large.
Those big afros are great for parties, but in the real world of business, your black ass will never get hired for even menial jobs.
However, over here in Europe things are changing slowly in the right direction. For example, many women on tv (news- and business coverage) who are of African descent wear their hair natural. So I guess we are more progressive over here.
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Wealthy European nations are more progressive than many other nations, but once they sense a dynamic social change or agenda caused by outsiders, they revert back to their original racist beliefs.
When Germans were struggling, they turned to Hitler and blamed the Jews for all their economic problems. Those greedy Jews, seemed to be overly prosperous, while the Germans were suffering. Hence, Hitler showed up and was accepted without question, for his candid explanation of the reasons for their misery.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Blacks are oppressed internationally on account of their low status in economic, technological, and self-referential matters. Individual blacks of much achievement in particular areas do garner much respect--especially in the areas of music and sport.
Asians such as the Chinese and Japanese are placed on a higher cachet than blacks in technological and economic matters on account of their prowess in these areas.
In general, humans are judged according to how their cultures perform technologically and economically. Given that what separates humans from other animals is their collective and individual skills in technological advancement and creativity--all expressed collectively in the form of culture, blacks are seen to be lacking in this area given the ascendancy of European and East Asian cultures.
Until African nations are seen to be progressing in the area of economics, political arrangements, and technology, the status of blacks as a collective would be seen to be diminished.
The reason why Japan and China do well, is because of a western imperialistic mistake, ..... I heard CNN anker journalist Jonathan Mann once say, we made a mistake by letting the Asian Tiger grow, now it's uncontrollable. We will not make that mistake with the African Lion. This was somewhere in the mid-90's.
It was no mistake. European albinos tried there best to foil China, Japan and Korea, but all they could achieve was to slow their growth. Due to China's long history of fighting off invasions, Europeans were just incompetent to do to Asia what they did to Africa to the same extent.
As I pointed out earlier, China was unified, while Africa was riff with a untold number of tribes, caring only for their tribe and not for the whole of Africa.
Whites don't admit it, but in reality, they could not stop China even if they wanted to. If they did like they did Japan and dropped a nuke, the Chinese would very likely drop a few in the US in retaliation.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Blacks are oppressed internationally on account of their low status in economic, technological, and self-referential matters. Individual blacks of much achievement in particular areas do garner much respect--especially in the areas of music and sport.
Asians such as the Chinese and Japanese are placed on a higher cachet than blacks in technological and economic matters on account of their prowess in these areas.
In general, humans are judged according to how their cultures perform technologically and economically. Given that what separates humans from other animals is their collective and individual skills in technological advancement and creativity--all expressed collectively in the form of culture, blacks are seen to be lacking in this area given the ascendancy of European and East Asian cultures.
Until African nations are seen to be progressing in the area of economics, political arrangements, and technology, the status of blacks as a collective would be seen to be diminished.
The reason why Japan and China do well, is because of a western imperialistic mistake, ..... I heard CNN anker journalist Jonathan Mann once say, we made a mistake by letting the Asian Tiger grow, now it's uncontrollable. We will not make that mistake with the African Lion. This was somewhere in the mid-90's.
It was no mistake. European albinos tried there best to foil China, Japan and Korea, but all they could achieve was to slow their growth. Due to China's long history of fighting off invasions, Europeans were just incompetent to do to Asia what they did to Africa to the same extent.
As I pointed out earlier, China was unified, while Africa was riff with a untold number of tribes, caring only for their tribe and not for the whole of Africa.
Whites don't admit it, but in reality, they could not stop China even if they wanted to. If they did like they did Japan and dropped a nuke, the Chinese would very likely drop a few in the US in retaliation.
Let's not forget where the west stole gunpowder , missile as well as Astronomic instrumentation technology from in the 1st place; China/Korea.
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^ Yes the concept of gunpowder was originally meant for firework. So it has a different intend.
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quote:Originally posted by viceroy: Wealthy European nations are more progressive than many other nations, but once they sense a dynamic social change or agenda caused by outsiders, they revert back to their original racist beliefs.
When Germans were struggling, they turned to Hitler and blamed the Jews for all their economic problems. Those greedy Jews, seemed to be overly prosperous, while the Germans were suffering. Hence, Hitler showed up and was accepted without question, for his candid explanation of the reasons for their misery.
The way Hilter postured comes close to how African Americans have been attacked.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: People seem to have the impression white people are walking around with sunburn all the time
That is because blacks are unable to process the fact we live in modernity; their brain is hardwired to regress to primitive thinking in order to make sense of reality. For example, they will argue the sun is the enemy of Whites, as if Whites have their entire being exposed to the sun. This aint 15k BC. There is this neat invention called, "shelter."
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: This is a major character flaw in many Blacks which will do them in as a collective, eventually.
I'm not sure what you mean, are you saying this was justified? Are you saying this had no cause and effect? And are you saying you whould be ok with this is was done to whites? Reminder, nobody gave them a choice.
What I am saying is, at the end of the day, nature cares nothing for human morals. Either you are fit to survive or you will go the way of the Tasmanians.
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quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: ^So, you would be ok with it, if whites received same treatment, as I have described in the posts, in this thread? Is that right?
It's very simple question, which you can respond to, with yes or no.
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
Let's not forget where the west stole gunpowder , missile as well as Astronomic instrumentation technology from in the 1st place; China/Korea.
No the first missiles were actually made by Indians like Tipu Sultan, Turks and Arabs. The Chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder but did not really invent gun weapons as we know them today. It was actually Indians and Arabs who created the first guns, the Indians used gun like weapons, against Alexander the Great, and the Saracens/Arabs adopted this gun technology from India and Persia and brought it to Europe with their conquests; they also supplied the British empire with the largest reserves of saltpetre, gunpowder in asia.
First hand pistol and pistol like weapons were used by the Mamluks against the Mongols in Ayn jalut, so it was the Turks, Arabs, Moors, who brought the concept of guns/cannons/grenades to Europe WITH THEIR CONQUESTS! The Moors also successfully used gun powder against the Vikings which was coined "greek fire" at the time.
Europeans DID NOT ADOPT IT FROM THE CHINESE BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM FORCEFULLY BY COMBINATION OF SARACENS/ARABS/MOORS/TURKS!
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: ^So, you would be ok with it, if whites received same treatment, as I have described in the posts, in this thread? Is that right?
It's very simple question, which you can respond to, with yes or no.
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
Let's not forget where the west stole gunpowder , missile as well as Astronomic instrumentation technology from in the 1st place; China/Korea.
No the first missiles were actually made by Indians like Tipu Sultan, Turks and Arabs. The Chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder but did not really invent gun weapons as we know them today. It was actually Indians and Arabs who created the first guns, the Indians used gun like weapons, against Alexander the Great, and the Saracens/Arabs adopted this gun technology from India and Persia and brought it to Europe with their conquests; they also supplied the British empire with the largest reserves of saltpetre, gunpowder in asia.
First hand pistol and pistol like weapons were used by the Mamluks against the Mongols in Ayn jalut, so it was the Turks, Arabs, Moors, who brought the concept of guns/cannons/grenades to Europe WITH THEIR CONQUESTS! The Moors also successfully used gun powder against the Vikings which was coined "greek fire" at the time.
Europeans DID NOT ADOPT IT FROM THE CHINESE BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM FORCEFULLY BY COMBINATION OF SARACENS/ARABS/MOORS/TURKS!
Do you have any documentation on this?
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Let's not forget where the west stole gunpowder , missile as well as Astronomic instrumentation technology from in the 1st place; China/Korea.
No the first missiles were actually made by Indians like Tipu Sultan, Turks and Arabs. The Chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder but did not really invent gun weapons as we know them today. It was actually Indians and Arabs who created the first guns, the Indians used gun like weapons, against Alexander the Great, and the Saracens/Arabs adopted this gun technology from India and Persia and brought it to Europe with their conquests; they also supplied the British empire with the largest reserves of saltpetre, gunpowder in asia.
First hand pistol and pistol like weapons were used by the Mamluks against the Mongols in Ayn jalut, so it was the Turks, Arabs, Moors, who brought the concept of guns/cannons/grenades to Europe WITH THEIR CONQUESTS! The Moors also successfully used gun powder against the Vikings which was coined "greek fire" at the time.
Europeans DID NOT ADOPT IT FROM THE CHINESE BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM FORCEFULLY BY COMBINATION OF SARACENS/ARABS/MOORS/TURKS!
The "Jet arrow" and 1st gunpowder launched missile were invented by Korea, I believe during the reign of king SeJong (1397-1450) and the slave inventor who also invented the world's first water clock, Jang Youngsil.
The 1st was a large box containing 500 arrows each propelled by an explosive charge. All 500 arrows could be launched at once and they generally had dozens of launchers firing at once. This was a huge invention which helped the Koreans to resist China.
The next version was not an arrow but a very large gunpowder and shrapnel filled tube that when launched exploded when it hit the ground and shot out shrapnel like a modern grenade. It was large and effective enough to kill hundreds of soldiers.
I never mentioned handguns or muskets. We were specifically speaking of missiles, although around the same time Youngsil also invented a handheld gunpowder launched single arrow launcher.
Europe didn't invent their 1st version until about 500 years later.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: ^So, you would be ok with it, if whites received same treatment, as I have described in the posts, in this thread? Is that right?
It's very simple question, which you can respond to, with yes or no.
quote: "STUDY: 5 Of 10 Falsely Convicted Prisoners Are African American
quote: Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.
if it is occurring in my lifetime, I would have a problem with it as that would be injustice. But if this were a historical event, I'd see it for what it was.
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Let's not forget where the west stole gunpowder , missile as well as Astronomic instrumentation technology from in the 1st place; China/Korea.
No the first missiles were actually made by Indians like Tipu Sultan, Turks and Arabs. The Chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder but did not really invent gun weapons as we know them today. It was actually Indians and Arabs who created the first guns, the Indians used gun like weapons, against Alexander the Great, and the Saracens/Arabs adopted this gun technology from India and Persia and brought it to Europe with their conquests; they also supplied the British empire with the largest reserves of saltpetre, gunpowder in asia.
First hand pistol and pistol like weapons were used by the Mamluks against the Mongols in Ayn jalut, so it was the Turks, Arabs, Moors, who brought the concept of guns/cannons/grenades to Europe WITH THEIR CONQUESTS! The Moors also successfully used gun powder against the Vikings which was coined "greek fire" at the time.
Europeans DID NOT ADOPT IT FROM THE CHINESE BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM FORCEFULLY BY COMBINATION OF SARACENS/ARABS/MOORS/TURKS!
The "Jet arrow" and 1st gunpowder launched missile were invented by Korea, I believe during the reign of king SeJong (1397-1450) and the slave inventor who also invented the world's first water clock, Jang Youngsil.
The 1st was a large box containing 500 arrows each propelled by an explosive charge. All 500 arrows could be launched at once and they generally had dozens of launchers firing at once. This was a huge invention which helped the Koreans to resist China.
The next version was not an arrow but a very large gunpowder and shrapnel filled tube that when launched exploded when it hit the ground and shot out shrapnel like a modern grenade. It was large and effective enough to kill hundreds of soldiers.
I never mentioned handguns or muskets. We were specifically speaking of missiles, although around the same time Youngsil also invented a handheld gunpowder launched single arrow launcher.
Europe didn't invent their 1st version until about 500 years later.
Those aren't real missiles as we understand them today, the first real missiles were actually INDEPENDENTLY invented and used by Indians and people like Tipu Sultan, who's innovations provided the concept of the future howitzer missile. The first real metallic iron incased missile, with a pointed top and a metallic iron cylinder shape exterior, as we see in modern armies today was invented and come up with in India.
These same weapons were used by the British in the American revolutionary war and in the Napoleanic wars. They got this technology from South Asia and it's well documented.
And no he did not invent the first hand gun, a hand held launched arrow launcher is not a real pistol or hand arm weapon as we understand them. The first official hand gun as in modern terms, and modern grenades were invented and come up jointly by the Turks/Indians/Arabs/Persians, these were first used by the Egyptian mamluk against the Mongols in the battle of Ayn jalut.
Likewise there is documentation indicating that Alexander the great encountered gun projectile and gun like weapons when he first tried to invade India, so gun like weapons don't actually originate from East Asia but it's been seen and used in Southern Asia and the Middle East since Ancient times.
Europeans didn't invent guns, it was brought TO THEM by the Arabs, Turks, Moors, Saracens etc etc, when they tried to conquer and take over European territory, which they succeeded in doing BECAUSE OF THOSE WEAPONS!
Likewise Asian do not invent things, this is not a racist statement but something you learn by learning THEIR REAL ACTUAL HISTORY and SPEND TIME LIVING AROUND THEM! Most of the so called Asian inventions and innovations were entirely accidental and coincidental, not based on pure raw creativity. That's why the most innovative and impressive of the Chinese dynasties was the black Shang and Xia dynasties IMO.
Asians are masters at replicating and copying things and imitating things, not actually inventing or creating things.
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Let's not forget where the west stole gunpowder , missile as well as Astronomic instrumentation technology from in the 1st place; China/Korea.
No the first missiles were actually made by Indians like Tipu Sultan, Turks and Arabs. The Chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder but did not really invent gun weapons as we know them today. It was actually Indians and Arabs who created the first guns, the Indians used gun like weapons, against Alexander the Great, and the Saracens/Arabs adopted this gun technology from India and Persia and brought it to Europe with their conquests; they also supplied the British empire with the largest reserves of saltpetre, gunpowder in asia.
First hand pistol and pistol like weapons were used by the Mamluks against the Mongols in Ayn jalut, so it was the Turks, Arabs, Moors, who brought the concept of guns/cannons/grenades to Europe WITH THEIR CONQUESTS! The Moors also successfully used gun powder against the Vikings which was coined "greek fire" at the time.
Europeans DID NOT ADOPT IT FROM THE CHINESE BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM FORCEFULLY BY COMBINATION OF SARACENS/ARABS/MOORS/TURKS!
quote: In his book on fireworks in ancient India, Haridas Mitra suggests that the Hindus had mastered the use of fire missiles by the fourth century BC. Flavius Philostratos, in his history of Apollonius of Tyana, mentioned that when Apollonius was travelling to India, he learned the real reason why Alexander the great desisted from attacking the Oxydrace: "These truly wise men, dwelt between the rivers Hypasis and the Ganges:...beloved by the Gods, (they) overthrew their enemies with tempest and thunderbolts shot from their walls." In the apocryphal letter that Alexander is said to have written to Aristotle, he describes the frightful dangers to which his army was exposed in India when the enemies hurled upon them flaming thunderbolts
I am too lazy to copy the other passages but all the information and everything is there in the book and other books like it.
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quote: In his book on fireworks in ancient India, Haridas Mitra suggests that the Hindus had mastered the use of fire missiles by the fourth century BC. Flavius Philostratos, in his history of Apollonius of Tyana, mentioned that when Apollonius was travelling to India, he learned the real reason why Alexander the great desisted from attacking the Oxydrace: "These truly wise men, dwelt between the rivers Hypasis and the Ganges:...beloved by the Gods, (they) overthrew their enemies with tempest and thunderbolts shot from their walls." In the apocryphal letter that Alexander is said to have written to Aristotle, he describes the frightful dangers to which his army was exposed in India when the enemies hurled upon them flaming thunderbolts
I am too lazy to copy the other passages but all the information and everything is there in the book and other books like it. [/QB]
I think you are confused in the difference between a missile, which is a jet propelled rocket, and a cannon firing metal encased shells. They aren't the same. As far as the use of cannons, China had them first.
India has a lot documented on their use of arms as well as airships, but at this stage of my discovery, they appear to be more myth than fact.
The descriptions you provide of India raining thunderbolts and fire-bolts from a wall doesn't sound like missiles, and more like catapults firing incendiary loads which were very common for the period. The description doesn't mention any explosion, and there isn't any physical description of what these weapons looked like.
List of Korean inventions
Multiple rocket launcher: Hwacha is a Multiple rocket launcher which was a platform device on wheels that used gunpowder to fire fire arrows, a predecessor of the modern MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System).
Armored warship: Turtle ships were large armored warships built during the Joseon dynasty from the early 15th century.
Time bomb: The first time bomb called Pigyok Chinchollae (비격진천뢰;飛擊震天雷) was developed during the Imjin War (1592-1598) by a technician, Yi Chang-son (이장손;李長孫).[20][21] It was used to propel into enemy camps and formations by mortar and detonate after a preset interval.
Naval Artillery: The world's first naval guns (cannons) were used by the Koreans to counter Japanese piracy during the Goryeo Dynasty in the 1370s
Soft bullet-proof vest: Myeonje Baegab is a soft bullet-proof vest invented by Kim Gi-du and Gang Yun in the late 1860s in the Joseon Dynasty.
Weather India or Korea first introduced these weapons to the world is unclear. What is clear is that they both had them well before Europe and today's European designed weapons are based on those ancient Korean designs.
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