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Here are some photos of Princess Viktoria of Prussia, one of Queen Victoria's daughters.
For some reason she was nicknamed Moretta, which appears to be have the same roots like 'moro', 'morena', 'moor', etc. And then when you look further you find this photo.
She is the one in the middle with the dark complexion looking to her left. To be honest it looks as though her picture was added in later, but there is no reason why there should have been an empty space in the middle unless the original had another picture of her which was displayed later. Perhaps she wasn't around to take part in the original photo shoot and that picture got added in later.
Either way she is quite dark compared to the others and there seems to be no reason why her image couldn't have been lightened up if the photo was taken under different conditions.
When you look up the word 'moretta' and see what comes up, then the nickname may have been appropriate after all.
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If she's nicknamed Moretta, it's because she have relatively darkened skin. Mom dukes was probably up to something fishy...
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Here is a photo of Queen Victoria believed to be one of the earliest when photography first came out.
Queen Victoria - 1840
She looks quite dark here, almost like a gypsy, but it is hard to tell whether it was the new nature of the technology.
But this one below like the other above leaves no doubt about the bloodline. The dark complexion of the younger Victoria (standing on the right) is very evident. Posts: 890 | From: London | Registered: Apr 2014
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Princess Viktoria of Prussia died today at her residence in Bonn. She was 63 years old, reported the New York Times. She was "destitute and entirely alone."
Princess Viktoria was taken to the hospital on November 6 in "critical condition after a doctor had forced his way into a dingy room she had shared with a former servant." She was suffering from a high fever.
Her sister, Margarete, the Landgravine of Hesse, was in Bonn, "but was not allowed to see the patient," in Viktoria's final hours. Kaiser Wilhelm, in exile in Doorn, is said to have telephoned the hospital twice a day "during the crisis for news of his favorite sister, "whose recent moral and physical suffering wiped out the imperial anger of her last matrimonial venture."
Viktoria had suffered "a severe attack of influenza, complicated by a previous organic trouble," which "developed into acute inflammation of the lungs." Her doctors stated that the princess did not try to fight the disease, "realizing she had nothing left to live for."
She was the granddaughter of Queen Victoria, daughter of Friedrich III of Germany, and sister of Kaiser Wilhelm II, and the widow of Prince Adolf of Schaumburg-Lippe.
Princess Friederike Amalia Wilhelmine Viktoria of Prussia was born on April 12, 1866 at the Neues Palais in Potsdam. She was the fifth child of Friedrich III and his wife, Victoria, the Princess Royal, and the eldest child of Queen Victoria. She was baptized on her grandmother’s birthday, May 24, in Potsdam, where the infant princess “was held during the ceremony by the King of Prussia and the Princess Marie of Hohenzollern.” She was named for her mother and grandmother.
Viktoria was known by several nicknames, including Moretta, Vicky or Vicksey. The princess "gave up all her princely rank and German citizenship," when she married a Russian emigre, Alexander Zoubkhoff, in November 1927. She "disregarded social conventions, and particularly added to the agitations" of her brother.
Not a single member of her family was present when she married the "former waiter, dishwasher, professional dancer and movie 'extra,' in a civil ceremony at Bonn's town hall.”
She told the press that she was "seeking to exchange the title of 'princess' for that of a 'happy woman.'"
As a young woman, Princess Viktoria of Prussia was in love with Prince Alexander of Battenberg, who was the sovereign prince of Bulgaria. Her parents approved the marriage, but after her father died of throat cancer in 1888, and her brother succeeded to the throne, Viktoria was forced to end her romance. Kaiser Wilhelm II and Otto von Bismarck were in strict opposition to a marriage (largely due to the concerns of Russia, as Sandro, the Sovereign Prince of Bulgaria, was closely allied with Russia - and the Tsar was his first cousin. (Sandro was not close to Alexander III, and support for the young Prince waned, and he abdicated as Prince of Bulgaria in 1889.)
Wilhelm II and von Bismarck considered other marital options.
Bismarck objected to Vicky’s “English influence” on her husband. He saw “great advantages” in having Moretta marry the Crown Prince of Portugal. In 1885, King Luiz of Portugal asked Moretta to convert to Roman Catholicism and marry his son, Crown Prince Carlos. She and her parents refused this offer. A year later, Carlos married a more suitable Roman Catholic princess, Princess Amelie of Orléans.
Young Viktoria's heart was broken, and she was sent to England to spend time with her grandmother, Queen Victoria. Queen Victoria and Windsor and Balmoral (Allen and Unwin: 1959) is a series of 27 letters that Princess Viktoria wrote to her mother, during her stay with Granny. Her romance with Alexander of Battenberg lasted for seven years, and it has been said that she never got over this disappointment. The late James Pope-Hennessy, who edited the letters, wrote: “It seems clear that the factor which spoiled her early adult life, and ruined her old age, was a simple and sympathetic one: Princess Victoria was a romantic. She could not marry “the handsome and dashing Battenberg, who seemed a hero in her eyes”, Viktoria was driven into a “humdrum marriage.”
She was described as a woman of “immense charm”, courageous, original, and the tallest of Empress Friedrich’s daughters. Her own mother once described her as “a lively skittish girlie ...often so difficult to guide and manage.” She was her father’s favorite daughter, and Fritz allowed her “to do as she liked.” The first rumors of a marriage with Prince Alexander appeared in 1884. A year later, Moretta “was so much in love with” with Alexander that she told her mother that if “anything happened to him she would throw herself into a canal.” The family was visiting Venice at the time.
Viktoria's mother confided about her own daughter's disappointment, and asked for the queen's help: "You would indeed make me most happy and do me the greatest favour, if you could induce Moretta not to be foolish about her food. Her one craze is to be thin. She starves completely, touches no milk, no sugar, no bread, no sweets, no soup, no butter, nothing but a scrap of meat and apples which is not enough. She will ruin her health. She has a fine strong constitution. She goes to bed too late and takes almost no exercise. I have begged and prayed, ordered, threatened, all to no effect." In the same letter, which was dated May 30, 1889, Vicky also mentions to her mother, several prospects of marriage for Moretta.
"As for her prospects, should it fail with this young Grand Duke (which is possible, but of which I trust I may hear more from you), I hear much of this Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe (Adolf) -- in a regiment in Berlin. He is nice and good-looking, but of course, it is nothing as to position. Should it not be possible for her to meet the young Russian which I still hope might be arranged, I am anxious for her to see this young Prince Adolf and this could be arranged when she comes back from England. I have also thought of the third Anhalt (Edward), a nice good young man with a nice fortune and not ill-looking, who would be sure to make a kind, nice husband and who has an amiable, cheerful disposition, and is a favourite everywhere. I think the young Russian would be far more to her taste, whereas either of the two others I should feel she could be quite safe with from all I hear and I have enquired very carefully. If only she would make up her mind to consider the possibility and not reject the thought altogether, if other things fail. Please not to tell Moretta that I have written this."
Certainly Queen Victoria, who had also approved of the Battenberg alliance, was in a position to assist in finding a husband for her granddaughter.
The Grand Duke in question was "young Grand Duke Alexander," as Queen Victoria noted, acknowledging that the Duchess of Edinburgh and the Princess of Leiningen "would do anything to help you" in regards to find a husband for Moretta. Alexander Mikhailovich was the Princess of Leiningen’s nephew. Duchess of Edinburgh, who was the daughter of Alexander II, also had a recommendation: Grand Duke Peter, the son of Grand Duke Nicholas. Queen Victoria responded to her daughter with the news that "Moretta has expressed a strong wish not to marry now and I own I think you should let it alone for the present. Let her see people, but pray do not force it on, for if she has no inclination, if she doesn't like anyone, it would never do." The Queen also cautioned Vicky: "But don't force or press her to marry for marrying's sake: that is dreadful. And I think it is hardly right or dignified for you to go about trying to marry your daughter and getting refusals. I had something of that kind to go through with Louise and suffered and it was very painful." She also informed Vicky that there was no chance for marriage between Grand Duke Alexander and Moretta, "for he does not think of marrying for some time to come and no prospect is held out of it in the future."
Kaiser Wilhelm informed Viktoria that she was to marry -- for reasons of state -- Prince Adolf of Schaumburg-Lippe, although it is difficult to understand how a marriage between the fourth son of the Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe and the daughter of the late German emperor could be described as "reasons of state."
But the Kaiser was determined to find a husband for his sister, “not least in order to pre-empt his mother’s active efforts in this direction,” according to Wilhelm’s biographer, John Röhl.
In early 1889, Wilhelm entrusted his close friend, Philipp zu Eulenberg with a “secret mission to investigate the private circumstances of Prince Adolf of Schaumburg-Lippe.” Wilhelm received the favorable report in February, and he thanked his friend “with all his heart.”
Prince Adolf, born in the same year as the Kaiser, “was good looking and not without means,” and in Wilhelm’s mind, the perfect match for his sister. Toward the end of that year, zu Eulenberg was sent once again to Bückeburg on another secret mission, where “after protracted negotiations” with the Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe, he succeeded in making arrangements for Adolf to pay a “discreet call” on the Empress Friedrich and her two daughters, Viktoria and Margarete, who were in Italy.
Adolf proposed on June 11, 1890. Empress Friedrich wrote to her mother. "Now I have a piece of news to impart which is that yesterday the Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe proposed to Vicky and she has accepted. In her depression and discouragement, feeling that the happiness she had hoped for is not to be hers, she accepts this. I hope it is a wise step, but it made my heart ache to think it is not what she dreamt of....William wishes this marriage particularly. I have cried so much I feel quite ill. But I think the young man is thoroughly trustworthy and good and I am sure he will try to make her happy, and she will try her utmost to do her duty...This has all come about rather suddenly. Prince Adolf came here to see me....He has seen very little of the world and has not travelled. I think it would do him an immense deal of good to go about little....I dare not think of parting with her as it will be dreadful and yet I am glad she should have a house of her own and someone to protect her in case I die, and I am also thankful to think she will not live very far off."
Queen Victoria noted that Adolf was a first cousin of the Duchess of Albany.
The engagement was announced by Wilhelm II to all the members of his family at a grand luncheon in the Marble Hall at Sansouci on June 17, 1890. The princess wore a "cream-colored dress and a hat trimmed with white flowers." The newly engaged couple sat between the Emperor and Empress. Wilhelm offered a toast to his sister and her fiancé.
(The family also denied that day that Margarete was engaged to marry Prince Wilhelm of Nassau.)
In her autobiography, My Memoirs, Princess Viktoria described how the engagement came about: "It was at Seegenhaus, near Neuwied, the residence of the Princess of Wied, the mother of the well-known Queen Carmen Sylva of Rumania, that I first met Prince Adolf of Schaumburg-Lippe. We were mutually attracted to each other, and I believe it as a case of love at first sight; for at Court I had met many good-looking and clever men, who had nevertheless failed to interest me in that particular way."
In July 1890, Viktoria and Adolf went to Berlin, where Adolf was presented to the Kaiser and Kaiserin. "He's a capital fellow," was the Kaiser's comment, "which quite amused me," Moretta noted.
A week later, Princess Viktoria, accompanied by her mother, the Empress Friedrich, and her sister, Margarete, traveled to Schloss Bückeburg en route to England. Prince Adolf had gone on ahead in order to be able to welcome his fiancee and her family.
The widowed empress, however, was not completely convinced that Adolf was the right candidate. The only other possible candidate was Philipp of Württemberg, despite the fact that he was a Roman Catholic. Vicky continued to work in secret to "find what she considered a more suitable husband for her favourite daughter." This continued even after the announcement of the engagement, and only months before the wedding. In the summer of 1890, Vicky introduced her daughter to the Hereditary Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, who was the grandson of Queen Victoria’s older half-sister, Feodora. She was thwarted once again by her eldest son, was who determined to “stick to his decision,” according to Röhl.
In a letter to Ernst’s father, Hermann, Vicky wrote bitterly: “My son has chosen this alliance.”
[In 1896, Ernst married Viktoria’s first cousin, Princess Alexandra of Edinburgh.]
The situation between Vicky, Moretta and the Kaiser grew even more tense after he received a letter from his wife, Dona. It appears that Wilhelm and Dona had been “fully informed” about Moretta’s “new infatuation and the machinations of her mother and Queen Victoria.”
It appears there was another suitor, certainly in Moretta’s eyes. In fact, all three of the Victorias “had the greatest hopes” on an English naval office, Captain the Hon. Maurice Archibald Bourke, the son of the 6th Earl of Mayo. It was clear to everyone concerned that Moretta “was still in love” with Captain Bourke. Dona, who may have been aware of her husband’s plans for his sister, confided to her husband that she had recently heard from his eldest sister, Charlotte – an inveterate mischief maker – who had received a letter from the Duchess of Edinburgh. Charlotte shared this letter with her sister-in-law.
“I must tell you that very disagreeable things are going on, for poor Granny (Queen Victoria) has got once more completely bamboozled by your Mama,” the duchess of Edinburgh wrote to Charlotte, “and the whole of the Bourke story was discussed with the most disastrous results.”
Queen Victoria, according to the Duchess of Edinburgh, “scolded” Moretta, who said that the relationship was not serious. “But when she talked it over with your Mama, who told her a very different story: that Moretta was still madly in love with the gallant Captain, would have waited for him five or six years in necessary, followed him to the end of the world, and more of that sort of bosh and nonsense adding that when Bourke broke it off it nearly broke Moretta’s heart.
“Whereupon dear ...Granny shed romantic tears of real sorrow over the sad episode telling your Mama that if she had known it before this new engagement with Adolph ... she (Granny) would have certainly helped Moretta to accomplish this match!!! Good heavens!....Moretta was obliged to accept this new partie but would never forget her love for Bourke.”
The Duchess of Edinburgh noted that they were right “to stop the whole thing” and tell Wilhelm about Moretta’s romance with Captain Bourke. The Duchess was certainly concerned about scandal. “God preserve us from further scandals, but somehow, I do not feel reassurance yet, that Moretta will really marry that very nice Adolphe, so good looking, I think.” Marie also mentioned to Charlotte that she thought it a “bad thing” that the Empress Friedrich and her daughters traveled to Greece for Princess Sophie’s wedding on the Surprise, “the very ship in which Captain Bourke was serving.”
Dona was indignant. She asked her husband, who was going to England to see Queen Victoria, “to give your Grandmamma a good talking to, for this is really going too far, for when a girl, particularly a princess, is engaged, that her own mother is probably trying to break it off!!!”
She also asked Wilhelm to make sure that Moretta did not return on the Surprise, “for the constant contact with the man, when someone like Vicky (Moretta) if she gets worked up, she might well do something quite frightful and then tell you that there were reasons which compelled her to marry the fellow.” In August, Kaiser Wilhelm was at Balmoral, where he was able to convince his grandmother “of the advantages of the match.”
Young Moretta remained depressed. Her mother wrote to Queen Victoria: “The nearer the wedding approaches the more cast down she is.”
The date of the wedding and the gala events were announced on October 30. The date was set for November 19. On November 17, the bridal party and their families attended a gala performance at the Opera. The next day, the Empress Friedrich hosted a banquet at her palace, and on the 20th, the bride and groom would host a lunch at the schloss in Potsdam, before leaving for Schloss Bückeburg, en route to Malta and Egypt.
They also spent three days in Constantinople in February 1891, where they "visited the places of interest," and dined with the Sultan before boarding the Orient Express to Vienna.
The Lutheran wedding took place in the chapel at Berlin's Alte Schloss. The Duke of Connaught represented Queen Victoria, and the Prince of Wales was presented by his elder son, the Duke of Clarence. Empress Friedrich, the bride's mother, and Empress Auguste Viktoria, placed a crown on the bride's head before she entered the chapel. Her gown was of "cream satin, brocaded and trimmed with wild roses and silver." Her veil was "of tulle interwoven with silver and surmounted with a wreath of orange blossoms and myrtles."
The chapel was filled with "nearly sixty members of royal families."
The bride "looking majestic in her bridal robe, which was borne by four bridesmaids, assisted by as many pages."
In the bridal procession, Kaiser Wilhelm II followed, escorting his mother, who "had put off her widow's weeds on this occasion and donned a most becoming dress of pale lilac." Empress Auguste Viktoria was on the arm of the Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe and Prince Henry of Prussia escorted the Princess of Schaumburg-Lippe, who were followed by the Crown Princess of Greece between the Grand Duke of Hesse and the Duke of Connaught, Princess Margarete of Prussia with the Crown Prince of Greece and Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Meiningen, Princess Henry of Prussia between Princes Leopold and Albrecht of Prussia, the Duke of Clarence with Princesses Leopold and Friedrich Karl of Prussia, Princess Albrecht of Prussia with Prince Alexander of Prussia and the Prince of Roumania, the Duchess of Connaught with the Hereditary Grand Duke of Hesse and the Duchess of Edinburgh, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein with the Grand Duke of Oldenburg, Prince Maximilian of Baden, the Hereditary Princess of Hohenzollern, Prince Friedrich Karl of Hesse, "and several other princely groups - 20 in all," according to the Times of London.
A banquet was held after the wedding, where Kaiser Wilhelm II offered toasts in honor of the bride and bridegroom.
Empress Friedrich, in a letter to her mother, noted that there would be no Fackeltanz (torchlight dance). "There are difficulties about rank and so on and on account of Dona's health (she was pregnant) it was wished to curtail the ceremony as much as possible." Princess Viktoria was a royal highness. Her new husband was a mere Serene Highness, albeit the son of a sovereign prince. On the day of the wedding, Count Alfred von Waldersee, a member of the Kaiser’s coterie, wrote: “I am quite sure that the couple do not suit each other and that the marriage can never be a happy one.”
After their honeymoon, the newlyweds settled in Bonn, where Adolf took up his military duties. Princess Viktoria noted in her memoirs that Adolf "was with me very little; but, as he was an able and conscientious office, I soon came to realize what military work meant, and appreciated his devotion to duty."
Viktoria's autobiography was published in 1929, the year of her death. She was writing for an audience, and for a paycheck. This is certainly obvious in her commentary about Adolf. "My husband was one of the kindest, noblest and best of husbands imaginable, chivalrous, courageous and humane. No better husband could a woman have."
This was far from the truth. Viktoria was certainly unfaithful to Adolf, and wanted out of the marriage.
Princess Viktoria suffered a miscarriage early in the marriage. She and her husband had no further children. For two years, Prince Adolf served as regent for the Principality, but despite his brother-in-law's support, the succession to Lippe was eventually passed to another member of the family.
The Prince of Lippe had died in 1895 without male issue. He stipulated in his will that Prince Adolf of Schaumburg-Lippe, who was the fourth son of the reigning Prince, should act as regent until Adolfe's son reached his majority. Moretta's mother wrote in a letter to Queen Victoria (May 4, 1895): "Vicky and Adolf make their solemn entry into Detmold [capital of Lippe] today. They will remain there for the present."
Queen Victoria was furious with her grandson-in-law after he demanded Moretta end her stay with her mother in September 1895. "I am so provoked at Adolf hurrying off Moretta before the time (far too short as that was) that she agreed to stay. If one of my sons-in-law was to behave that way I should be furious and protest. A daughter has her duties to her mother, who has no child living with her and is a widow. It is too bad and selfish."
In 1901, the Princess celebrated her 35th birthday with a family luncheon at Schloss Friedrichshof. The 12 guests included Queen Alexandra, who earlier in the day had planted a tree in the gardens, and Viktoria's brother, Prince Henry. Earlier that year, she had gone driving in Bonn, where she was thrown from her carriage, but she did not sustain any serious injuries.
It was when she was married to Adolf that scandal was first attached to her name. Viktoria "contemplated divorcing her husband" because she was in love with his nephew and wished to marry him. After Prince Adolf died in 1916, Viktoria sought the consent of her brother to marry the nephew.
Kaiser Wilhelm II denied the request. The princess was said to "have taken the refusal calmly, but with a resolve to have more gayety in her life before she grew old."
It is possible that Viktoria suffered from porphyria. Her sister, Charlotte, had certainly inherited the disease. John Röhl noted that Viktoria had “made herself conspicuous by her behavior throughout her life – she was a nymphomaniac.” In 1893, she was treated for “pernicious anaemia,” at a clinic in Bad Schwalbach. She left Berlin in 1915 and moved into a "luxuriously furnished castle," in Bonn. She was 50 years old at the time, "but very wealthy and young looking."
Princess Viktoria met Zoubkoff in 1927 during a party "given at her castle to a number of students." Zoubkoff was studying law at the University of Bonn. The princess became infatuated with the young Russian, who was nearly forty years her junior.
Their engagement was soon announced, and the couple were married in a civil ceremony, as required by German law, which was followed by a Greek Orthodox wedding, where she wore "the famous lace bridal veil" that was first worn by her mother, Princess Victoria, when she married the future Friedrich III, in 1858. Shortly after the wedding, Zoubkoff "became mixed in many escapades," which resulted in his deportation. He went to Brussels, but was asked to leave there. He returned to Germany, only to be expelled for a second time. The same "fate met him in France."
Viktoria at first "declared her faith in him" and announced she would follow him to the Belgian Congo, where Zoubkoff drifted. Not long afterward, Viktoria was forced to move from her palace into a rented room because her "wealth had been dissipated." This past October, her personal belongings were sold at public auction to pay her creditors. When the auction was over, Viktoria was found "by a loyal servant clutching the trunk of an old tree in her garden, dazed by her misfortune."
Perhaps the princess believed that "at the last minute" her brother, the Kaiser or other family members, "would come to her rescue and hold up the sale, but they failed her," reported the Chicago Daily Tribune. Earlier this month, the princess filed for divorce.
She recently told relatives: "Alexander of Battenberg's wooing was heaven, the Adolf episode was purgatory." One relative added: "Then Zoubkoff took her to hell."
Hell, however, was not how Viktoria first saw her romance with the much younger man. She recorded in her diary about their first meeting: "Baron Zoubkoff was here for dinner. He appears to be a most interesting young man -- slender, dark and good-looking. He is very intelligent, and I shall continue to invite him."
Her diary revealed further emotions: "Baron Zoubkoff came today and we played tennis. I hope he will continue to call on me. He strikes me as an ideal companion for a lady, and I have an impression that is also fond of me. I wish there were more folks about the place, as I would not then feel myself so lonesome. I am becoming more attached to him every day, and I dread to think that he is to leave Bonn."
But Zoubkoff never intended to leave Bonn and "egged on by his fellow emigres, who scented some easy money" -- arrived one morning at the palace wearing a "tennis kit and popped the question."
On the day she accepted Alexander's marriage proposal, she wrote in her diary: "I am entirely happy. The family's opposition to my marriage does not matter. I will overcome all obstacles. Rank, title, and money I will cheerfully give up, but my happiness I am determined to keep. He loves me, and I love him. I feel a new life opening up before me."
After the wedding, a beaming bride told reporters: "I am only too glad to have someone to protect and love me, and I shall be only too glad to fulfill the wishes of my husband and help him in every respect."
Within a few months, however, Sascha, as Viktoria called him, "was spending his nights and her money along the amusement highways that flank the Rhine." The princess' fortune, which was estimated at more than $2 million dollars, "was rapidly being consumed" to cover Zoubkoff's overdrafts, "paying for his nocturnal escapades." The princess, in addition, was "brazenly being victimized by alleged legal advisers, who proved to be Zoubkoff's confederates." In time, Viktoria was adjusted to bankrupt, and all of her possessions were auctioned off last month. She moved into a "humble pension" near her former palace, where "she started on a life of spartan simplicity and severity."
Kaiser Wilhelm's spokesman in Berlin issued a statement regarding Viktoria's funeral. The Kaiser's attendance at the funeral was "wholly out of the question.". My Memoirs was written before Viktoria's marriage crumbled. She concluded her autobiography with "I feel that a fresh life has opened out to me, one that, with the graciousness of Providence, will be full of happiness in my newly-found companionship. We mean to live a simple, quiet life, devoting a great deal of our time to work, and later travelling abroad and visiting friends."
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Victoria (Alexandrina Victoria; 24 May 1819 – 22 January 1901) was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland from 20 June 1837 until her death. From 1 May 1876, she adopted the additional title of Empress of India.
Victoria was the daughter of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn, the fourth son of King George III. Both the Duke of Kent and King George III died in 1820, and Victoria was raised under close supervision by her German-born mother Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. She inherited the throne aged 18, after her father's three elder brothers had all died, leaving no surviving legitimate children.
Victoria, Princess Royal (Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa; 21 November 1840 – 5 August 1901) was German Empress and Queen of Prussia by marriage to German Emperor Frederick III. She was the eldest child of Queen Victoria of Great Britain and Ireland and Prince Albert, and was created Princess Royal in 1841. She was the mother of Wilhelm II, German Emperor.
Princess Viktoria of Prussia (Friederike Amalia Wilhelmine Viktoria) (12 April 1866 – 13 November 1929) was the second daughter of Frederick III, German Emperor and his wife Victoria, Princess Royal, a daughter of Queen Victoria. To the public she was always Princess Viktoria, and in the family she was called Moretta or Young Vicky.
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The mulatto woman in this photo is Victoria, Princess Royal (Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa; 21 November 1840 – 5 August 1901)
The photo was taken outside the house at Balmoral in 1883
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quote:Originally posted by A Habsburg Agenda: Here are some photos of Princess Viktoria of Prussia, one of Queen Victoria's daughters.
^^^ incorrect, Princess Viktoria of Prussia aka "Moretta"'s mother is > Victoria, Princess Royal and Queen Victoria is Moretta's grand mother Three different Victorias
Queen Victoria's daughter Victoria, Princess Royal ( this is Moretta's mother, notice the resemblance)
Frederick III of Prussia, husband to Victoria Princess Royal husband and father of Princess Viktoria of Prussia "Moretta" of the thread topic.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
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The mulatto woman in this photo is Victoria, Princess Royal (Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa; 21 November 1840 – 5 August 1901)
The photo was taken outside the house at Balmoral in 1883 [/qb]
Incorrect, the woman on the top right is the woman of the thread topic Viktoria or Prussia "Moretta"
Victoria, Princess Royal is Moretta's mother sitting at right and Victoria, Princess Royal's mother is sitting at left, Queen Victoria (Moretta's grandmother) Younger cousins also present, all five people have the first name Victoria
A mulatto? stop the foolery, the mother and father pictured above
Princess Viktoria of Prussia, Moretta" ( in her 60s)
One thing I have noticed with both Princess Viktoria of Prussia, "Moretta" and her mother and Queen Charlotte and Queen Elizabeth is that they all have a trait which gives a slight impression of Africaness although not every African has it. It is also common in East Asians. The distance between the nose and mouth is larger proportionally than on many Europeans as well as the width of the mouth opening
Once again Princess Viktoria of Prussia aka "Moretta" -note her hair is naturally straight, the frizz in the front at the top of the post pics was stylized at older age
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^lioness - you are right, the mulatto is Princess Viktoria of Prussia (Friederike Amalia Wilhelmine Viktoria) (12 April 1866 – 13 November 1929) .
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Give it up already Princess Viktoria of Prussia (Friederike Amalia Wilhelmine Viktoria) was not a mulatto at all. Every picture of her shows her to be White. Pictures of her parents show them to be White. Pictures of her g-parents (both sets) show them to be White & both sets of g-grandparents paintings show them to be White as well and so on. Dude don't you Black supremacists realize how utterly stupid & ignorant you look with your lies, false claims & delusions. You spit in the faces of your ancestors, telling them their legacy isn't good enough for you so you must steal that of others,thus they are not good enough for you, & telling them you're ashamed of them. For shame, I would not dishonor my ancestors in such a manner.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^lioness - you are right, the mulatto is Princess Viktoria of Prussia (Friederike Amalia Wilhelmine Viktoria) (12 April 1866 – 13 November 1929) .
Queen Victoria's daughter - "Victoria, Princess Royal " Mother of Princess Viktoria of Prussia ("Moretta")
Frederick III of Prussia, husband to Victoria Princess Royal and father of Princess Viktoria of Prussia "Moretta" of the thread topic.
according to Mike white people cam produce mulattoes. One is reminded of the Sandra Laing case
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Another case where, white parents were able to produce mulatto singer Michael Philip "Mick" Jagger
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
Give it up already Princess Viktoria of Prussia (Friederike Amalia Wilhelmine Viktoria) was not a mulatto at all. Every picture of her shows her to be White. Pictures of her parents show them to be White. Pictures of her g-parents (both sets) show them to be White & both sets of g-grandparents paintings show them to be White as well and so on. Dude don't you Black supremacists realize how utterly stupid & ignorant you look with your lies, false claims & delusions. You spit in the faces of your ancestors, telling them their legacy isn't good enough for you so you must steal that of others,thus they are not good enough for you, & telling them you're ashamed of them. For shame, I would not dishonor my ancestors in such a manner.
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Here is what I know Doxie...
I know that Albinos LIE!
I know that Albinos have made an industry in FAKE artifacts.
I know that Albinos often use the picture of one person and present it as the picture of another person.
But most of all - I know a Black person when I see one!
Ha,ha,ha,ha:
Here read this and educate yourself....
The Monarchy of Germany was created with a proclamation by the President of the North German Confederation and the King of Prussia, William I of Prussia, during the Franco-Prussian War in 1871. It was abolished in 1918 following Germanys defeat in World War I. The Black “Holy Roman Empire” (962 AD – 1806) preceded.
The Monarchy of Germany was created with a proclamation by the President of the North German Confederation and the King of Prussia, William I of Prussia, during the Franco-Prussian War in 1871. It was abolished in 1918 following Germanys defeat in World War I. The Black “Holy Roman Empire” (962 AD – 1806) preceded.
Mike's not lying. We live in multiple realities. "Fibbing" is not lying
Tacitus, Germania, 98 A.D.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Tacitus on the Germanics:
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them.
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Lionese, you give yourself away too easily as a being a fat white Jewish man.
Ask 1 million blacks to name 100 singers, and less than .1 of 1% will name Jagger as a singer. Even if unable to name 100, none would still mention or even think of Jagger. Jagger, Bowe and Elton John have practical ZERO cross over appeal.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] Lionese, you give yourself away too easily as a being a fat white Jewish man.
Ask 1 million blacks to name 100 singers, and less than .1 of 1% will name Jagger as a singer.
The word singer doesn't mean "good singer"
But more importantly it doesn't matter what blacks or whites think. It matters what mulattoes think
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Again you prove my point in disrespecting & dishonoring your ancestors by trying to steal the legacy of another people. Shame on you. As I said before Mikey I would never disrespect & dishonor my ancestors as you have yours by doing such a thing. LOL Mike its you who has been saying full lips are an indicator of Black blood. The first lady & her albino baby are Black. UMMM who said only Blacks can be slaves lol, of course there were White slaves. Just read the books "They Were White And They Were Slaves", "White Cargo", "White Gold", "White Slaves African Masters", "To Hell Or Barbados". BTW there was no Black Holy Roman Empire, it was White founded & White ruled.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] Lionese, you give yourself away too easily as a being a fat white Jewish man.
Ask 1 million blacks to name 100 singers, and less than .1 of 1% will name Jagger as a singer.
The word singer doesn't mean "good singer"
But more importantly it doesn't matter what blacks or whites think. It matters what mulattoes think
You're busted, Man. No black person would refer to Jagger as any kind of singer. They'd just say, The Rolling Stone's Mick Jagger, not to be confused with, singer. Bob Marley was an mulatto as well as many others, but you mention Mick Jagger.
LOL, at least you've broadened from Kenny G. Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
who said only Blacks can be slaves lol, of course there were White slaves. Just read the books "They Were White And They Were Slaves", "White Cargo", "White Gold", "White Slaves African Masters", "To Hell Or Barbados".
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Ish Gebor and some other idiot named Alex Amend
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] Lionese, you give yourself away too easily as a being a fat white Jewish man.
Ask 1 million blacks to name 100 singers, and less than .1 of 1% will name Jagger as a singer.
The word singer doesn't mean "good singer"
But more importantly it doesn't matter what blacks or whites think. It matters what mulattoes think
You're busted, Man. No black person would refer to Jagger as any kind of singer. They'd just say, The Rolling Stone's Mick Jagger, not to be confused with, singer. Bob Marley was an mulatto as well as many others, but you mention Mick Jagger.
LOL, at least you've broadened from Kenny G.
stop trolling with semantics, not every black person can sing well. Stick to the topic, over 40 black men infatuated with European princesses
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LOL Lioness the Living Colour- Cult of Personality is a great video. the song is good, the lyric is strong, the singer and the musicians are good. I think the band is a mixture of Jimmy Hendrix and Lenny Kravitz Black Rock and Roll style.
a passage of the song you dont need me only you can save yourself. I am going to buy that song tonight. The Cult of Personality Youtube video have a huge 18 million views .
LOL that song I believe was that band's only hit & they were the only hard rock band that had a Black lead singer. I much preferred Poison, Motley Crue,Kiss,AC/DC,Bon Jovi, Great White, Damn Yankees,Skid Row,Metallica,Joan Jett,Europe,Cinderella,Ratt,Queen,Warrant,Guns N Roses, Dokken,Def Leppard,Heart,Quiet Riot,Slaugher and Twisted Sister to them.
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mena7,
LOL that song I believe was that band's only hit & they were the only hard rock band that had a Black lead singer. I much preferred Poison, Motley Crue,Kiss,AC/DC,Bon Jovi, Great White, Damn Yankees,Skid Row,Metallica,Joan Jett,Europe,Cinderella,Ratt,Queen,Warrant,Guns N Roses, Dokken,Def Leppard,Heart,Quiet Riot,Slaugher and Twisted Sister to them.
Some are great bands, I like.
I prefer Van Halen, Rage Against the Machine, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, The Verve, B-52, Oasis, Skunk Anansie etc and the old school rock such as Funkadelic, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and of course Jimi Hendrix
Living Colour is not a mainstream band.
See, I am openminded. lol
This is a very rare video of the late Scott Didlake, 1948-1994, pioneer gourd banjo builder and the lost origin of the banjo researcher. He his talking at a Gourd banjo workshop during the Tennessee Banjo Institute event 1992 together with Mike Seeger and Clark Buehling..
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I think that it is absolutely hilarious of some to think that all Germans back then were "pure white", or could not have had admixture, while there was a relatively large Afro-German community.
Afro-German Ignatius Fortuna († 1789), Kammermohr
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I get you're explaining this guy but using afro-german creates an image of a recent immigrant and in his style of dress that could be true but Benjamin Franklin mentioned in his essay that the Germans and other types in Europe weren't white skinned.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: I think that it is absolutely hilarious of some to think that all Germans back then were "pure white", or could not have had admixture, while there was a relatively large Afro-German community.
Afro-German Ignatius Fortuna († 1789), Kammermohr
Countess Palatine Francisca Christina of Sulzbach with Ignatius Fortuna.
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
Again you prove my point in disrespecting & dishonoring your ancestors by trying to steal the legacy of another people. Shame on you. As I said before Mikey I would never disrespect & dishonor my ancestors as you have yours by doing such a thing. LOL Mike its you who has been saying full lips are an indicator of Black blood. The first lady & her albino baby are Black. UMMM who said only Blacks can be slaves lol, of course there were White slaves. Just read the books "They Were White And They Were Slaves", "White Cargo", "White Gold", "White Slaves African Masters", "To Hell Or Barbados". BTW there was no Black Holy Roman Empire, it was White founded & White ruled.
quote:Realhistoryww is a crackpot black supremacist website owned by a poster on the Egyptsearch forum "Mike111" (where he seems to spend most his life: 18,000+ posts).
Mike's website argues all ancient civilizations were black, and that white people are "sickly albinos" that are inferior.
Many of Mike's racist Egyptsearch posts reveal an unhealthy obsession with white females:
“”We have all heard Whites espouse glowingly of the "Delicate" White skinned, rosy-cheeked beauty. Has anyone ever really analyzed and considered that proposition?
Why would ANY man want a "Delicate" (Sickly) Woman?
The offspring would likely be sickly too.
And the sex? Can't do much rocking-n-rolling with a sickly woman. Conclusion: There is serious delusionary thinking going on in the White mind
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Mike, I've told you before I don't read Black supremacist garbage sorry. Your Anti-White hate site is not a reliable source. BTW Mikey women are supposed to be delicate,demure,soft of skin. We are not meant to be manly or masculine you dumby. Delicate does not mean sickly.
Troll Patrol,
We all know you want White people to think we have no history, no heritage, no identity, that you want us to think we have no homeland,that we are indigenous to nowhere on earth thus have nowhere on earth we belong, no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of as a people, but you sure do make sure to leave us all the bad parts you don't want. You simply want to claim Europe as yours & your people's & its history as yours as well. The indigenous be damned. You simply don't want Whites to have anywhere to call home without your presence.
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: BTW Mikey women are supposed to be delicate,demure,soft of skin. We are not meant to be manly or masculine you dumby. Delicate does not mean sickly.
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For an Albino man perhaps, but Albino women know what to do to please their Black men:
With whom they hope to breed strong mulatto children. (Just google "hardbody").
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Shiiit, my guess is that even my boy Narmer, could drop a load on one of them!Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Mike considers tanned white women "mulattos" and only they have the hard bodies, there are no untanned ones
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Mike, Narmertot would much prefer this fully melinated hard body rather than the suntanned snowbunnys - to bust his nut in
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