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Interesting article I came across, about how various European albino Afrikaaners in South Africa got displaced during the fall of apartheid and have to resort to now living in squalor camps and ghetto's, due to the social and political situation....
quote: The WHITE ghettos that blight South Africa: 20 years after the fall of apartheid, how it is now white people who live in squalid camps
There are 42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, a figure which has grown in last 20 years Munsieville is a squatter camp west of Johannesburg which is home to 300 of them, many of them kids Under apartheid white South Africans lorded it over blacks and 'coloureds' but now there is equality There are 4.5 million white South Africans and every year thousands emigrate to Australia or New Zealand
A quarter of a century ago black South Africans were living in squalor while most whites lived the good life in apartheid-era South Africa. Nelson Mandela was released from prison in 1990 and four years later he took over as President from F W De Klerk and the pair shared the Nobel Peace Prize.
Apartheid - a grotesque and brutal form of government in which whites held all the power and blacks and other racial groups were segregated and oppressed - was condemned to the dustbin of history. Nowadays there is a
strange form of equality. While the black South African middle class has grown and many live in big houses, with swimming pools and drive around in BMWs like their white peers; many poor whites live in squalid squatter camps just like their black peers.
Jeanine Maritz, 13, stands down the road from her mother's makeshift home. She lives with her father and visits her mother and aunt in Munsieville squatter camp on weekends and holidays
Photographer Jacques Nelles has captured the life of a poor white community with these images taken in the Munsieville township, west of Johannesburg.
Around 42,000 of the 4.5 million white South Africans are thought to live in poverty, which equates to 0.9 per cent.
But 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race.
Chillo (pictured) repairs broken mobile phones to afford his drug habit. He recently some time in prison and only stays in Munsieville when his girlfriend's husband is away
The squatter camp in Munsieville is one of 80 across South Africa.
It is built on the site of an old dumping ground and is home to around 300 people, of which a quarter are children. Those living here survive on around 700 rand (£40) a month.
Most of the people here are Afrikaans-speakers, descendants of the Dutch settlers who landed on the Cape of Good Hope in the 17th century. Around 60 per cent of white South Africans are Afrikaans. Just over a century ago their grandfathers or great-grandfathers, known as Boers, were engaged in a bloody war with the British Empire.
The word Boer means 'farmer' in Dutch and while some of the Munsieville camp dwellers have come here after abandoning farms in the countryside, the majority have come here from cities like Johannesburg and Pretoria.
rene Van Niekerk washes her clothes in a bucket as her daughter tries to calm down her crying grandson in the background. To many residents, Irene is the community leader and she and her husband Hugo try and keep order in the small community
The camp is just outside the town of Munsieville - which is about 98 per cent black - which was named after James Munsie, a sanitation inspector.
Ironically here there is very basic sanitation, and no running water apart from a couple of standpipes, no secure structures, no electricity and little food.
Houses are typically built with bare earth floors, but frequent floods wash away the topsoil and leave decades-old waste exposed. Hospitals refuse residents care and those living at the camp are regularly rebuffed by potential employers at job interviews.
In the apartheid era many less educated white South Africans got jobs in the police, where they took part in the brutal oppression of blacks protesting against their conditions, or in the armed forces, who were involved in wars in Angola and what is now Namibia.
The South African Defence Force - which had 82,000 men under arms in 1986 - was disbanded in 1994.
The South African Army now has half that many men, and the majority are black. The boot is well and truly on the other foot and few white South Africans relish a career in the armed forces.
The number of white South Africans has fallen slightly in recent years as some emigrate to New Zealand and Australia.
A picture of Jannie Geldenhuys' son hangs in his hut. He has not seen his son for many years since he is unwilling to speak to his father and has moved overseas
Mr Nelles told Mail Online: 'The people I met mostly live off of disability funds from the government and they receive lots of sponsorship in terms of foods and other groceries from charities.'
He said: 'Many of the people I spoke to felt they were in this situation because of their own doing and cannot see a way out.
'They keep feeding off of the charity they receive and there is a sense of them thinking they are entitled to it, that the system after apartheid has belittled them and therefore they can justify sitting back and receiving things from charity.'
Mr Nelles said: 'Many of them also beg on street corners, most of them smoke and consume alcohol regularly and fail to see that they could rather have spent their meagre income on more useful things.'
He said: 'Some of the residents I spoke to also seemed genuinely happy and okay with the circumstances they are in. There is a sense of community among the residents, mostly because of the similarities in culture and understanding of who they are in the bigger picture.'
Andre Coetzee spends his time digging through the dumpsite by the entrance to the squatter camp, he finds items that he spends time refurbishing with the idea of selling it, he hopes to get free food from Irene on a daily basis as he and his wife have both lost their ID documents and cannot claim welfare benefits
Mr Nelles said: 'To me it seemed very much like a friendly township, similar to any black township I've been to.'
He said: 'I was mostly affected by the amount of children I saw, living in squalor. It saddens me to think they might never leave this level of poverty and will remain living in this situation for the rest of their lives.
'The children reminds me of any white kids I've met, even kids in affluent suburbs, playing outside spending their days in the sun. They dont seem to understand they are poor, or are ignorant to what life is like outside Munsieville.'
He said few of the residents were interested in politics.
Children play in the weeds growing by the edges of the white squatter camp. A quarter those in the camp are children
Jan (pictured) lives next to the edge of the white squatter camp. Previously police have evicted black residents living on the border of the white squatter camp, but to no avail as many have just moved back
Comments from racist Euro albinos online from a racialist albino preservationist website:
quote: The decline of the Afrikaners is mirrored in the decline into gradual chaos of South Africa. The worst instincts of the blacks are on play now. ANC is thoroughly corrupt. I know a few White migrants from SA who work in London (in the City). They take great care to be politically correct. Most City-based companies push PC / diversity agenda very hard. Truly sordid times we live in.
quote: The globalists love this. Seeing impoverished white people is their wetdream.
quote: They are worse off than Palestinians.
But Jew-run media don't care. And whites, not even trump, raise no concern.
Around 42,000 of the 4.5 million white South Africans are thought to live in poverty, which equates to 0.9 per cent.
But 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race.
The rate of black South African poverty is about 7 times more than the white poverty rate
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Poverty levels dropped in South Africa between 2006 and 2011, reaching a low of 20.2% for extreme poverty and of 45.5% for moderate poverty, according to the Poverty Trends in South Africa report released by Statistics SA on Thursday.
Adding the two figures yields 65.7 according to this 2014 source
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However, while the poverty situation is improving, inequality in the country remains a serious problem, according to the Poverty Trends report, which measures inequality in terms of the Gini coefficient - a number between 0 and 1, where 0 indicates total equality and 1 indicates total inequality. South Africa's Gini figure was approximately 0.65 based on expenditure data (per capita excluding taxes) and 0.69 based on income data (per capita including salaries, wages and social grants) in 2011. "These high levels of inequality, amongst the highest in the world, are only slightly smaller than the Ginis recorded in 2006 [0.67 and 0.72 respectively]", the report states. "The share of national consumption between the richest and poorest remains stubbornly stagnant. The richest 20% of the population account for over 61% of consumption in 2011 (down from a high of 64% in 2006). Meanwhile, the bottom 20% see their share remaining fairly constant at below 4.5%."
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It looks like south africa has changed the definition on who is living in poverty in south africa or have a different number then the world bank.
South Africa: Where 12 million live in extreme poverty
Reducing poverty is seen as the world's greatest challenge and in South Africa it is counted as one of the country’s triple threats, the other two being unemployment and inequality. Statistics South Africa has published a report that updates the national and provincial poverty lines, setting the minimum socially acceptable standard to separate the poor from the non-poor. By GREG NICOLSON.
quote: Last year, the World Bank gave South Africa a good story tell. It released a report that said due to South Africa's “slightly progressive” tax system and “highly progressive” government spending, around 3.6 million people have been lifted out of poverty, halving the number of South Africans living on less than $1.25 a day. Because of grants, free basic services and taxes favouring the poor, the poverty rate dropped from 46.2% to 39%.
Tuesday's Statistics South Africa (Stats SA) report uses different figures to count those living in poverty. Using the Income Expenditure Survey from 2010/11, which updated and reweighed a basket of goods and services after collecting data from 25,000 households, Stats SA's new poverty lines come from a cost-of-basic-needs approach, including both food and non-food. It calculates the minimum amount of money you need to survive. Those who fall below that line live in poverty.
It uses three lines of poverty – the food poverty line (FPL), the lower bound poverty line (LBPL) and the upper bound poverty line (UBPL). The FPL sets the rand value below which you can't purchase enough food to meet a minimum energy intake, about 2,100 kilo-calories a day. The next two categories take into account other needs. Those below the LBPL line don't have enough money to purchase both adequate food items and non-food items, so they have to sacrifice food to pay for things like transport and airtime. The UBPL group are still considered in poverty, but can generally purchase both food and non-food items.
According to the report, ‘Methodological report on rebasing of national poverty lines and development of pilot provincial poverty lines’, it goes on to state, “Concurrent with the wide usage of the poverty lines, increasing demand has been placed on Stats SA to update them regularly. Thus far the organisation has been updating the poverty lines annually using the consumer price index data, with the latest update estimating that in 2014 the food poverty line is R400 per capita per month while the lower and upper bound poverty lines are R544 and R753 per capita per month, respectively.”
But looking at the 2011 poverty statistics, which the data is based on, the new measures for poverty show some increases in the number of people struggling. Rebasing the poverty line, from a FPL of R321 per-person-per-month to R335, means an increase from 20.2% of people living in extreme poverty increases to 21.7%. Not much of a difference. “The rebasing, however, brings about a substantial increase in the estimates for overall poverty (from 45.5% to 53.8%) when a switch is made from the existing upper-bound poverty line of R620 per-person-per-month to the revised level of R779 per-person-per-month. The same trend holds when one considers the impact of the rebasing of the national poverty lines on the depth of poverty (how far the deprived are from the poverty line) in the country. The change in the poverty gap among the extremely poor is negligible (6.6% to 6.9%) while the change for overall poverty is substantial (19.6% to 25.8%),” reads the report.
Too much to decipher? Essentially, the latest statistics say that 21.7% of South Africans live in extreme poverty, not being able to pay for basic nutritional requirements; 37% of people don't have enough money to purchase both adequate food items and non-food items so they have to sacrifice food to pay for things like transport and airtime; 53.8% of people can afford enough food and non-food items but fall under the widest definition of poverty in SA, surviving on under R779 per month.
So despite the World Bank's recognition of South Africa's efforts to reduce poverty, many people are still struggling. Stats SA made sure to point out this is a shift in methodology, meaning that although more people are now categorised as falling below the poverty line, it doesn't mean poverty is getting worse. It also pointed out that to measure poverty, the lines must be used alongside other information. However, these figures make it hard to see how poverty is decreasing, although reports often cite figures showing South Africans are in general improving in living standards measures (LSM).
One thing that might be heartening is the dollar comparison of South Africa's extreme poverty line. The Stats SA food poverty line is equivalent to a person living on $2.34 a day, “which is almost double the international poverty line for extreme poverty ($1.25)”. The report continues, “The LBPL is [purchasing power parity] $3.50 day and the UBPL is [purchasing power parity] $5.43, slightly above the highest international poverty line of purchasing power parity $5 referenced by the World Bank and other international agencies. When converted to purchasing power parity, the poverty lines for South Africa are above the most extreme international lines, but within the maximum used for international comparisons for developing countries.”
According to the data, KwaZulu-Natal had the highest poverty line in 2011 (R354 per capita per month) followed by Western Cape. Northern Cape and Eastern Cape have lower poverty lines, influenced not only by prices of food but consumption patterns and household size.
The new data will help inform government policy on issues like grants. While it may reflect long-term declines in poverty, it shows that far too many South Africans are struggling and the country has clearly missed its target of eradicating the scourge by 2015. DM
The number of South Africans living in poverty has increased since 2010.
In 2010, 20% of South Africa’s population fell below the poverty line, statistician-general Pali Lehohla said in Johannesburg today, at the release of a Statistics South Africa report on poverty.
This had increased to 21.5% in 2014, he said.
“The same is true for the austere poverty line, which stipulates the threshold below which one has to sacrifice some food to obtain some basic non-food items,” Lehohla said.
These items included airtime and transportation costs.
“This line is revised upwards from R441 to R501, a person a month,” Lehohla said.
The cost of living had gone up, but South Africa still fared much better than other countries.
According to the report, the country’s food poverty line translated to $2.34 (about R26) a person a day.
This was almost double the international line for extreme poverty, at $1.25 (about R14) a person a day.
“This means that, on average, South Africans are enjoying relatively higher living standards compared with many populations across the world that live below $1.25 a day,” Lehohla said.
Stats SA prepared the report to help government departments and other public agencies determine how much money was spent on social grants and the access people had to free government services.
White communities around the world, including Britain, USA, Brazil, Russia, France, Germany, all have many thousands of these trailer parks occupied by poor whites. The European banking system is truly color blind when it comes to profits.
A few years ago in the USA, tens of thousands of young whites marched in protest in New York against Wall Street (Jews) for turning it's attention and focus on stealing accumulated wealth the savings, real estate, and jobs of Upper and middle class white families. Assets that would normally have been tremendous inheritances for those young protesting whites.
With the realization that they are no longer privileged with immunity from Wall Street predatory practices and the USA government no longer cuddles them, many whites have given up and embraced the sweet escape of Heroin, Meth, alcohol and other substances abuses.
While in middle America whites are committing mass suicide using Heroin, Meth and alcohol.
There is a very real psychological component of racism that affects the abused as well as the abuser. Racism (Tribalism) is really a two edged sword where the psychological effect changes the fate of both oppressor/oppressed.
When blacks speak of reparations for slavery, young whites ALWAYS respond with, "Should we be liable for our father's and grandfather's transgressions"? Well, we can clearly see that they are responsible by the self destructive hopelessness of their lives.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: -This is called, KARMA!
White communities around the world, including Britain, USA, Brazil, Russia, France, Germany, all have many thousands of these trailer parks occupied by poor whites. The European banking system is truly color blind when it comes to profits.
A few years ago in the USA, tens of thousands of young whites marched in protest in New York against Wall Street (Jews) for turning it's attention and focus on stealing accumulated wealth the savings, real estate, and jobs of Upper and middle class white families. Assets that would normally have been tremendous inheritances for those young protesting whites.
With the realization that they are no longer privileged with immunity from Wall Street predatory practices and the USA government no longer cuddles them, many whites have given up and embraced the sweet escape of Heroin, Meth, alcohol and other substances abuses.
While in middle America whites are committing mass suicide using Heroin, Meth and alcohol.
There is a very real psychological component of racism that affects the abused as well as the abuser. Racism (Tribalism) is really a two edged sword where the psychological effect changes the fate of both oppressor/oppressed.
When blacks speak of reparations for slavery, young whites ALWAYS respond with, "Should we be liable for our father's and grandfather's transgressions"? Well, we can clearly see that they are responsible by the self destructive hopelessness of their lives.
Quote: When blacks speak of reparations for slavery, young whites ALWAYS respond with, "Should we be liable for our father's and grandfather's transgressions"?
Well, we can clearly see that they are responsible by the self destructive hopelessness of their lives.
Albino immigrants also ask a similar question:
Quote: why should we have to pay for something we had no part in - we weren't even here?
Answer: The only reason you came here is to take advantage of the wealth and privileged created by those degenerates at the expense of the murder, Slavery, and misery of other Human beings.
History tells us that the post Civil war immigrants quickly accumulated the nations wealth, and joined in the degeneracy of racism.
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^ Expand your thoughts and consider what is best for both African Americans, and the world. The most critical negative aspect of the legacy of slavery and on-going racial discrimination is the psychological component. I.E., Stockholm, advanced Stockholm, low self worth, self destructive behaviour patterns, etc.
As we see, this form of psychological dysfunction is passed down from generation to generation, and based on the music, lifestyle, and self destructive behaviours, it seems this Hip-Hop generation has reached the critical breaking point of the psychological scarring.
Reparations for Africans does not expect financial compensation as it's ultimate goal. As you suggest, giving large sums of cash to a psychologically impaired people is not a plan for success.
A major component of any future African reparations should be psychological readjustment. The state of Africans following 400 years of being dominated, humiliated, and murdered leaves the victims with something that may be magnitudes more damaging than Stockholm. Not many Negro psychologists focus on this other than Dr. Joy DeGruy and Dr Frances Cress Welsing.
The ultimate goal of any reparations would be to reset the present state of Negroes to partially repair the damage of 400 years of humility and defeat.
Education would be another major component and perhaps a remodelling of the SBA 8(A) program which was supposed to assist black businesses, but due to Jewish greed, ended up being a free-handout for White/Jews. Today, I believe the percentage of blacks/whites receiving the benefit of SBA 8(A) business cash infusion and government contract award is approx. 80/20 percent, with the 80% being awarded to White/Jewish women who Jews sneakily reclassified as "minorities" during the civil rights era.
To be against African reparations based only on finances without examine the larger picture is not the best position to hold.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: A major component of any future African reparations should be psychological readjustment. The state of Africans following 400 years of being dominated, humiliated, and murdered leaves the victims with something that may be magnitudes more damaging than Stockholm. Not many Negro psychologists focus on this other than Dr. Joy DeGruy and Dr Frances Cress Welsing.
The ultimate goal of any reparations would be to reset the present state of Negroes to partially repair the damage of 400 years of humility and defeat.
Education would be another major component and perhaps a remodelling of the SBA 8(A) program which was supposed to assist black businesses, but due to Jewish greed, ended up being a free-handout for White/Jews. Today, I believe the percentage of blacks/whites receiving the benefit of SBA 8(A) business cash infusion and government contract award is approx. 80/20 percent, with the 80% being awarded to White/Jewish women who Jews sneakily reclassified as "minorities" during the civil rights era.
To be against African reparations based only on finances without examine the larger picture is not the best position to hold.
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: Interesting article I came across, about how various European albino Afrikaaners in South Africa got displaced during the fall of apartheid and have to resort to now living in squalor camps and ghetto's, due to the social and political situation....
quote: The WHITE ghettos that blight South Africa: 20 years after the fall of apartheid, how it is now white people who live in squalid camps
There are 42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, a figure which has grown in last 20 years Munsieville is a squatter camp west of Johannesburg which is home to 300 of them, many of them kids Under apartheid white South Africans lorded it over blacks and 'coloureds' but now there is equality There are 4.5 million white South Africans and every year thousands emigrate to Australia or New Zealand
A quarter of a century ago black South Africans were living in squalor while most whites lived the good life in apartheid-era South Africa. Nelson Mandela was released from prison in 1990 and four years later he took over as President from F W De Klerk and the pair shared the Nobel Peace Prize.
Apartheid - a grotesque and brutal form of government in which whites held all the power and blacks and other racial groups were segregated and oppressed - was condemned to the dustbin of history. Nowadays there is a
strange form of equality. While the black South African middle class has grown and many live in big houses, with swimming pools and drive around in BMWs like their white peers; many poor whites live in squalid squatter camps just like their black peers.
Jeanine Maritz, 13, stands down the road from her mother's makeshift home. She lives with her father and visits her mother and aunt in Munsieville squatter camp on weekends and holidays
Photographer Jacques Nelles has captured the life of a poor white community with these images taken in the Munsieville township, west of Johannesburg.
Around 42,000 of the 4.5 million white South Africans are thought to live in poverty, which equates to 0.9 per cent.
But 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race.
Chillo (pictured) repairs broken mobile phones to afford his drug habit. He recently some time in prison and only stays in Munsieville when his girlfriend's husband is away
The squatter camp in Munsieville is one of 80 across South Africa.
It is built on the site of an old dumping ground and is home to around 300 people, of which a quarter are children. Those living here survive on around 700 rand (£40) a month.
Most of the people here are Afrikaans-speakers, descendants of the Dutch settlers who landed on the Cape of Good Hope in the 17th century. Around 60 per cent of white South Africans are Afrikaans. Just over a century ago their grandfathers or great-grandfathers, known as Boers, were engaged in a bloody war with the British Empire.
The word Boer means 'farmer' in Dutch and while some of the Munsieville camp dwellers have come here after abandoning farms in the countryside, the majority have come here from cities like Johannesburg and Pretoria.
rene Van Niekerk washes her clothes in a bucket as her daughter tries to calm down her crying grandson in the background. To many residents, Irene is the community leader and she and her husband Hugo try and keep order in the small community
The camp is just outside the town of Munsieville - which is about 98 per cent black - which was named after James Munsie, a sanitation inspector.
Ironically here there is very basic sanitation, and no running water apart from a couple of standpipes, no secure structures, no electricity and little food.
Houses are typically built with bare earth floors, but frequent floods wash away the topsoil and leave decades-old waste exposed. Hospitals refuse residents care and those living at the camp are regularly rebuffed by potential employers at job interviews.
In the apartheid era many less educated white South Africans got jobs in the police, where they took part in the brutal oppression of blacks protesting against their conditions, or in the armed forces, who were involved in wars in Angola and what is now Namibia.
The South African Defence Force - which had 82,000 men under arms in 1986 - was disbanded in 1994.
The South African Army now has half that many men, and the majority are black. The boot is well and truly on the other foot and few white South Africans relish a career in the armed forces.
The number of white South Africans has fallen slightly in recent years as some emigrate to New Zealand and Australia.
A picture of Jannie Geldenhuys' son hangs in his hut. He has not seen his son for many years since he is unwilling to speak to his father and has moved overseas
Mr Nelles told Mail Online: 'The people I met mostly live off of disability funds from the government and they receive lots of sponsorship in terms of foods and other groceries from charities.'
He said: 'Many of the people I spoke to felt they were in this situation because of their own doing and cannot see a way out.
'They keep feeding off of the charity they receive and there is a sense of them thinking they are entitled to it, that the system after apartheid has belittled them and therefore they can justify sitting back and receiving things from charity.'
Mr Nelles said: 'Many of them also beg on street corners, most of them smoke and consume alcohol regularly and fail to see that they could rather have spent their meagre income on more useful things.'
He said: 'Some of the residents I spoke to also seemed genuinely happy and okay with the circumstances they are in. There is a sense of community among the residents, mostly because of the similarities in culture and understanding of who they are in the bigger picture.'
Andre Coetzee spends his time digging through the dumpsite by the entrance to the squatter camp, he finds items that he spends time refurbishing with the idea of selling it, he hopes to get free food from Irene on a daily basis as he and his wife have both lost their ID documents and cannot claim welfare benefits
Mr Nelles said: 'To me it seemed very much like a friendly township, similar to any black township I've been to.'
He said: 'I was mostly affected by the amount of children I saw, living in squalor. It saddens me to think they might never leave this level of poverty and will remain living in this situation for the rest of their lives.
'The children reminds me of any white kids I've met, even kids in affluent suburbs, playing outside spending their days in the sun. They dont seem to understand they are poor, or are ignorant to what life is like outside Munsieville.'
He said few of the residents were interested in politics.
Children play in the weeds growing by the edges of the white squatter camp. A quarter those in the camp are children
Jan (pictured) lives next to the edge of the white squatter camp. Previously police have evicted black residents living on the border of the white squatter camp, but to no avail as many have just moved back
Comments from racist Euro albinos online from a racialist albino preservationist website:
quote: The decline of the Afrikaners is mirrored in the decline into gradual chaos of South Africa. The worst instincts of the blacks are on play now. ANC is thoroughly corrupt. I know a few White migrants from SA who work in London (in the City). They take great care to be politically correct. Most City-based companies push PC / diversity agenda very hard. Truly sordid times we live in.
quote: The globalists love this. Seeing impoverished white people is their wetdream.
quote: They are worse off than Palestinians.
But Jew-run media don't care. And whites, not even trump, raise no concern.
Lol I love the ones who thinks the white Jews aren't cut from the same cloth. Lol morons, creating the stupid "Jew boogey man" because they can't except themselves going to such extreme levels of corruption that they'd be willing to sacrifice the dumber and weaker of themselves. Lol brainwashed puppets need to grow up.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [qb] A major component of any future African reparations should be psychological readjustment. The state of Africans following 400 years of being dominated, humiliated, and murdered leaves the victims with something that may be magnitudes more damaging than Stockholm. Not many Negro psychologists focus on this other than Dr. Joy DeGruy and Dr Frances Cress Welsing.
The ultimate goal of any reparations would be to reset the present state of Negroes to partially repair the damage of 400 years of humility and defeat.
Mike says more Blacks in America are Black Native Europeans rather than descendants of African slaves. How does reparations play out for them ?
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Tell me Narmer,Mike,MOM,Fencer. Why the heck would you care about Whites living in squalor, White children starving,being denied medical care, turning to drugs & alcohol & suicide (this harms only them) out of hopelessness as they are barred from employment. What you mad because they aren't destroying themselves fast enough for your liking? You should get a kick out of seeing White children suffering & living in squalor,after all you hate Whites.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [qb] A major component of any future African reparations should be psychological readjustment. The state of Africans following 400 years of being dominated, humiliated, and murdered leaves the victims with something that may be magnitudes more damaging than Stockholm. Not many Negro psychologists focus on this other than Dr. Joy DeGruy and Dr Frances Cress Welsing.
The ultimate goal of any reparations would be to reset the present state of Negroes to partially repair the damage of 400 years of humility and defeat.
Mike says more Blacks in America are Black Native Europeans rather than descendants of African slaves. How does reparations play out for them ?
I'm still awaiting your answer to the questions I asked, above?
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: -This is called, KARMA!
White communities around the world, including Britain, USA, Brazil, Russia, France, Germany, all have many thousands of these trailer parks occupied by poor whites. The European banking system is truly color blind when it comes to profits.
A few years ago in the USA, tens of thousands of young whites marched in protest in New York against Wall Street (Jews) for turning it's attention and focus on stealing accumulated wealth the savings, real estate, and jobs of Upper and middle class white families. Assets that would normally have been tremendous inheritances for those young protesting whites.
With the realization that they are no longer privileged with immunity from Wall Street predatory practices and the USA government no longer cuddles them, many whites have given up and embraced the sweet escape of Heroin, Meth, alcohol and other substances abuses.
While in middle America whites are committing mass suicide using Heroin, Meth and alcohol.
There is a very real psychological component of racism that affects the abused as well as the abuser. Racism (Tribalism) is really a two edged sword where the psychological effect changes the fate of both oppressor/oppressed.
When blacks speak of reparations for slavery, young whites ALWAYS respond with, "Should we be liable for our father's and grandfather's transgressions"? Well, we can clearly see that they are responsible by the self destructive hopelessness of their lives.
Quote: When blacks speak of reparations for slavery, young whites ALWAYS respond with, "Should we be liable for our father's and grandfather's transgressions"?
Well, we can clearly see that they are responsible by the self destructive hopelessness of their lives.
Albino immigrants also ask a similar question:
Quote: why should we have to pay for something we had no part in - we weren't even here?
Answer: The only reason you came here is to take advantage of the wealth and privileged created by those degenerates at the expense of the murder, Slavery, and misery of other Human beings.
History tells us that the post Civil war immigrants quickly accumulated the nations wealth, and joined in the degeneracy of racism.
Imagine what would happen if you gave a ghetto Negro say, $50.000.
The only thing you could say for sure, is that it would not be used as a down payment on a house.
Then after the money was squandered, you go back to the Albino man and you say - fix it.
He say's fuch you - I paid, we're even!
If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
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quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
. In order to collect damages (reparations), you would have to make a case for Injury, Harm, Damage, etc. Just curious, what would your claim sound like?
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Narmer sorry to harrang you in this thread, but could you please read my pm to you?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111 : He say's fuch you - I paid, we're even!
quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
How and were would you spend that money? You don't have to give up a "business plan". Just asking, how and where wold you spend that money.
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Tell me Narmer,Mike,MOM,Fencer. Why the heck would you care about Whites living in squalor, White children starving,being denied medical care, turning to drugs & alcohol & suicide (this harms only them) out of hopelessness as they are barred from employment. What you mad because they aren't destroying themselves fast enough for your liking? You should get a kick out of seeing White children suffering & living in squalor,after all you hate Whites.
Do you have valid sources to back up what you claim? I mean valid news outlets. Not some white rightwing website.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111 : He say's fuch you - I paid, we're even!
quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
How and were would you spend that money? You don't have to give up a "business plan". Just asking, how and where wold you spend that money.
I just applied for a 50K grant to develop a software app and a game within the African and native American religious institutions. Its the first step in Africanising the church ie returning science, education, industry, production and an economy.
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quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
. In order to collect damages (reparations), you would have to make a case for Injury, Harm, Damage, etc. Just curious, what would your claim sound like?
I would also make a case with welfare. Welfare was white only until the 60s. Blacks were able to share in what they paid into for about a decade before welfare was reformed to the child support system. I came to understand that welfare was created for white women, child support for black men.
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Hopefully you know by now that Albinos tell the story for the benefit of other Albinos, so do not take the facts or statistics too literally.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111 : He say's fuch you - I paid, we're even!
quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
How and were would you spend that money? You don't have to give up a "business plan". Just asking, how and where wold you spend that money.
I just applied for a 50K grant to develop a software app and a game within the African and native American religious institutions. Its the first step in Africanising the church ie returning science, education, industry, production and an economy.
Interesting, what code language do you use?
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quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
. In order to collect damages (reparations), you would have to make a case for Injury, Harm, Damage, etc. Just curious, what would your claim sound like?
I would also make a case with welfare. Welfare was white only until the 60s. Blacks were able to share in what they paid into for about a decade before welfare was reformed to the child support system. I came to understand that welfare was created for white women, child support for black men.
This is correct:
Slavery by Another Name: The Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II
quote:"Slavery by Another Name is a 90-minute documentary that challenges one of Americans’ most cherished assumptions: the belief that slavery in this country ended with the Emancipation Proclamation. The film tells how even as chattel slavery came to an end in the South in 1865, thousands of African Americans were pulled back into forced labor with shocking force and brutality. It was a system in which men, often guilty of no crime at all, were arrested, compelled to work without pay, repeatedly bought and sold, and coerced to do the bidding of masters. Tolerated by both the North and South, forced labor lasted well into the 20th century.
For most Americans this is entirely new history. Slavery by Another Name gives voice to the largely forgotten victims and perpetrators of forced labor and features their descendants living today."
quote:"Even in the antebellum era, when slaves often weren't permitted to wed, most black children lived with a biological mother and father. During Reconstruction and up until the 1940s, 75% to 85% of black children lived in two-parent families. Today, more than 70% of black children are born to single women. "The welfare state has done to black Americans what slavery couldn't do, what Jim Crow couldn't do, what the harshest racism couldn't do," Mr. Williams says. "And that is to destroy the black family."
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Government programs and regulations are favorite butts of the professor, who is best known today for his weekly column—started in 1977 and now appearing in more than 140 newspapers—and for his stints guest-hosting Rush Limbaugh's popular radio program.
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Mr. Williams distinguished himself in the mid-1970s through his research on the effects of the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931—which got the government involved in setting wage levels—and on the impact of minimum-wage law on youth and minority unemployment. He concluded that minimum wages caused high rates of teenage unemployment, particularly among minority teenagers. His research also showed that Davis-Bacon, which requires high prevailing (read: union) wages on federally financed or assisted construction projects, was the product of lawmakers with explicitly racist motivations.
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Ish Gebor - When you frame a reply like above, few will read it. It's confusing, and if you're going to quote, make the quote part of your narrative. No offense, just a suggestion.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111 : He say's fuch you - I paid, we're even!
quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: If reparations was just 50K then I would not be for them either, but if it was 30-50K a year for 25 years I would forgive, but not forget.
How and were would you spend that money? You don't have to give up a "business plan". Just asking, how and where wold you spend that money.
I just applied for a 50K grant to develop a software app and a game within the African and native American religious institutions. Its the first step in Africanising the church ie returning science, education, industry, production and an economy.
Hopefully you know by now that Albinos tell the story for the benefit of other Albinos, so do not take the facts or statistics too literally.
I know you don't like to watch videos/podcast... This explains how the US became wealthy enough to produce pockets of affluence in a people who are 13% of the population with .5% of the resources. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-1BGGrKBgIPosts: 1254 | From: howdy | Registered: Mar 2014
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Hopefully you know by now that Albinos tell the story for the benefit of other Albinos, so do not take the facts or statistics too literally.
I know you don't like to watch videos/podcast... This explains how the US became wealthy enough to produce pockets of affluence in a people who are 13% of the population with .5% of the resources. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-1BGGrKBgI
DAMN!!!!
I amend my statement:
It's amazing how little this crop of "Supposedly" Black young people, know about WHITE America.
You all are scaring the sh1t out of me!
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: ^^^^Please elaborate for us Mike....
The United States is the mightiest and Richest nation that has ever existed, I assumed that most people knew something as to how that came about, and certainly that would be expected by people who live in it.
And btw - it has little to do with Slavery.
Murder and theft - yes.
Slavery - not so much.
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You seem a little to dismissive of slavery in that regard,the Confederates won the initial part of the war do to the fact that slaves maintained the house and the more I think of it,their doesn't seem to be non white power at the time that was contesting Europe so I could only see the wealth developing from undercutting other people market and bullying them and slavery affording to think more sense they did not have a labor problem.
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: ^^^^Please elaborate for us Mike....
The United States is the mightiest and Richest nation that has ever existed, I assumed that most people knew something as to how that came about, and certainly that would be expected by people who live in it.
And btw - it has little to do with Slavery.
Murder and theft - yes.
Slavery - not so much.
Lmao... Murder and theft over cheap labor to build a superpower? c'mon man, you're smarter than this...
...Oh wait, you're just not being sincere ...as usual right?
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: Interesting article I came across, about how various European albino Afrikaaners in South Africa got displaced during the fall of apartheid and have to resort to now living in squalor camps and ghetto's, due to the social and political situation....
quote: The WHITE ghettos that blight South Africa: 20 years after the fall of apartheid, how it is now white people who live in squalid camps
There are 42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, a figure which has grown in last 20 years Munsieville is a squatter camp west of Johannesburg which is home to 300 of them, many of them kids Under apartheid white South Africans lorded it over blacks and 'coloureds' but now there is equality There are 4.5 million white South Africans and every year thousands emigrate to Australia or New Zealand
A quarter of a century ago black South Africans were living in squalor while most whites lived the good life in apartheid-era South Africa. Nelson Mandela was released from prison in 1990 and four years later he took over as President from F W De Klerk and the pair shared the Nobel Peace Prize.
Apartheid - a grotesque and brutal form of government in which whites held all the power and blacks and other racial groups were segregated and oppressed - was condemned to the dustbin of history. Nowadays there is a
strange form of equality. While the black South African middle class has grown and many live in big houses, with swimming pools and drive around in BMWs like their white peers; many poor whites live in squalid squatter camps just like their black peers.
Jeanine Maritz, 13, stands down the road from her mother's makeshift home. She lives with her father and visits her mother and aunt in Munsieville squatter camp on weekends and holidays
Photographer Jacques Nelles has captured the life of a poor white community with these images taken in the Munsieville township, west of Johannesburg.
Around 42,000 of the 4.5 million white South Africans are thought to live in poverty, which equates to 0.9 per cent.
But 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race.
Chillo (pictured) repairs broken mobile phones to afford his drug habit. He recently some time in prison and only stays in Munsieville when his girlfriend's husband is away
The squatter camp in Munsieville is one of 80 across South Africa.
It is built on the site of an old dumping ground and is home to around 300 people, of which a quarter are children. Those living here survive on around 700 rand (£40) a month.
Most of the people here are Afrikaans-speakers, descendants of the Dutch settlers who landed on the Cape of Good Hope in the 17th century. Around 60 per cent of white South Africans are Afrikaans. Just over a century ago their grandfathers or great-grandfathers, known as Boers, were engaged in a bloody war with the British Empire.
The word Boer means 'farmer' in Dutch and while some of the Munsieville camp dwellers have come here after abandoning farms in the countryside, the majority have come here from cities like Johannesburg and Pretoria.
rene Van Niekerk washes her clothes in a bucket as her daughter tries to calm down her crying grandson in the background. To many residents, Irene is the community leader and she and her husband Hugo try and keep order in the small community
The camp is just outside the town of Munsieville - which is about 98 per cent black - which was named after James Munsie, a sanitation inspector.
Ironically here there is very basic sanitation, and no running water apart from a couple of standpipes, no secure structures, no electricity and little food.
Houses are typically built with bare earth floors, but frequent floods wash away the topsoil and leave decades-old waste exposed. Hospitals refuse residents care and those living at the camp are regularly rebuffed by potential employers at job interviews.
In the apartheid era many less educated white South Africans got jobs in the police, where they took part in the brutal oppression of blacks protesting against their conditions, or in the armed forces, who were involved in wars in Angola and what is now Namibia.
The South African Defence Force - which had 82,000 men under arms in 1986 - was disbanded in 1994.
The South African Army now has half that many men, and the majority are black. The boot is well and truly on the other foot and few white South Africans relish a career in the armed forces.
The number of white South Africans has fallen slightly in recent years as some emigrate to New Zealand and Australia.
A picture of Jannie Geldenhuys' son hangs in his hut. He has not seen his son for many years since he is unwilling to speak to his father and has moved overseas
Mr Nelles told Mail Online: 'The people I met mostly live off of disability funds from the government and they receive lots of sponsorship in terms of foods and other groceries from charities.'
He said: 'Many of the people I spoke to felt they were in this situation because of their own doing and cannot see a way out.
'They keep feeding off of the charity they receive and there is a sense of them thinking they are entitled to it, that the system after apartheid has belittled them and therefore they can justify sitting back and receiving things from charity.'
Mr Nelles said: 'Many of them also beg on street corners, most of them smoke and consume alcohol regularly and fail to see that they could rather have spent their meagre income on more useful things.'
He said: 'Some of the residents I spoke to also seemed genuinely happy and okay with the circumstances they are in. There is a sense of community among the residents, mostly because of the similarities in culture and understanding of who they are in the bigger picture.'
Andre Coetzee spends his time digging through the dumpsite by the entrance to the squatter camp, he finds items that he spends time refurbishing with the idea of selling it, he hopes to get free food from Irene on a daily basis as he and his wife have both lost their ID documents and cannot claim welfare benefits
Mr Nelles said: 'To me it seemed very much like a friendly township, similar to any black township I've been to.'
He said: 'I was mostly affected by the amount of children I saw, living in squalor. It saddens me to think they might never leave this level of poverty and will remain living in this situation for the rest of their lives.
'The children reminds me of any white kids I've met, even kids in affluent suburbs, playing outside spending their days in the sun. They dont seem to understand they are poor, or are ignorant to what life is like outside Munsieville.'
He said few of the residents were interested in politics.
Children play in the weeds growing by the edges of the white squatter camp. A quarter those in the camp are children
Jan (pictured) lives next to the edge of the white squatter camp. Previously police have evicted black residents living on the border of the white squatter camp, but to no avail as many have just moved back
Comments from racist Euro albinos online from a racialist albino preservationist website:
quote: The decline of the Afrikaners is mirrored in the decline into gradual chaos of South Africa. The worst instincts of the blacks are on play now. ANC is thoroughly corrupt. I know a few White migrants from SA who work in London (in the City). They take great care to be politically correct. Most City-based companies push PC / diversity agenda very hard. Truly sordid times we live in.
quote: The globalists love this. Seeing impoverished white people is their wetdream.
quote: They are worse off than Palestinians.
But Jew-run media don't care. And whites, not even trump, raise no concern.
Actually, the people to first people to refer to themselves as "Afrikaners/Afrikaaners" were Oude Ram Afrikaner, his descendants and their followers. They were of Khoi descend and they were the ones built Windhoek in Namibia.
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Whites in South Africa make up 10% of the population, yet they own 90% of the land and wealth. Understandably not all whites can follow the path of success as a given. "42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, out of 4.5 million white South Africans."
However, 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race. This is at the apartheid aftermath, so where is the outrage?
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The scenes of the whites here can be found in many Eastern European countries and in Russia. Capitalism is a bitch, because it maintains that the poor can't get richer unless the rich get even richer, and as things are going now, the rich won't even need the poor, except probably as domestics.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Whites in South Africa make up 10% of the population, yet they own 90% of the land and wealth. Understandably not all whites can follow the path of success as a given. "42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, out of 4.5 million white South Africans."
However, 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race. This is at the apartheid aftermath, so where is the outrage?
The outrage is directed at the wrong things like #FeesMustFall, #ZumaMustFall etc and not at #WhiteCapitalMustFall or #WhiteSupremacyMustFall or even #WhitesMustFall.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Whites in South Africa make up 10% of the population, yet they own 90% of the land and wealth. Understandably not all whites can follow the path of success as a given. "42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, out of 4.5 million white South Africans."
However, 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race. This is at the apartheid aftermath, so where is the outrage?
Perhaps now you understand why some of us have low regard for Africans in general.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Whites in South Africa make up 10% of the population, yet they own 90% of the land and wealth. Understandably not all whites can follow the path of success as a given. "42,000 white South Africans living in poverty, out of 4.5 million white South Africans."
However, 63.2 per cent of the country's 43 million black South Africans also live in poverty and around 37 per cent of 'coloureds' - people of mixed race. This is at the apartheid aftermath, so where is the outrage?
Perhaps now you understand why some of us have low regard for Africans in general.
But how does this represent Africans general?
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