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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:

You have the Arab and you have the Arabized.

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Perhaps you would be clearer if you explained what "Arabized" is.

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Arabization or Arabisation describes either the conquest of a non-Arab area and growing Arab influence on non-Arab populations, causing their gradual adoption of the Arabic language and/or their incorporation of Arab culture and Arab identity. The religion of Islam and the associated Islamist (government and society ordered in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam) socio-political order, with their central Quran text written in Arabic language and tailored for Arab culture, had a central role in Arabization, which usually went hand in hand with Islamization of conquered lands.

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I didn't ask who was Arabized.

I asked if Ish Gebor agrees with Mike that all Arabs are Black but Ish Gebor is very timid on giving a yes or no answer to this

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I didn't ask who was Arabized.

I asked if Ish Gebor agrees with Mike that all Arabs are Black but Ish Gebor is very timid on giving a yes or no answer to this

The history of Arabia is the Arabized and the non-Arabized.

The non-Arabized had dark complexion, sorry to disappoint you.


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The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
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Bye.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
ALL Arabs were Black

Mike most of the world is not Arabized yet, the history of Arabia is of the Arabized and the non-Arabized.

The non-Arabized had dark complexion, sorry to disappoint you.

Ish Gebor's teachings

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^He,he,he,he:

Very SLOOOWLY:

Arabized = Albinos and their Mulattoes (Turks mainly) who want to be FAKE Arabs.

NON-Arabized = REAL ARABS!!!

(Who are of course Black).

lioness - I'm tired of calling you stupid, so please, try to do better.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

lioness - I'm tired of calling you stupid, so please, try to do better.

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lioness - the next two posts are intended to educate you, so that you will no longer be stupid - Please pay attention.

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American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC)

Facts about Arabs and the Arab World

Shakira, Doug Flutie, Kathy Najimy, George Mitchell, Salma Hayek, Spencer AbrahamWho is an Arab?
"Arab" is a cultural and linguistic term. It refers to those who speak Arabic as their first language. Arabs are united by culture and by history. Arabs are not a race. Some have blue eyes and red hair; others are dark skinned; many are somewhere in between. Most Arabs are Muslims but there are also millions of Christian Arabs and thousands of Jewish Arabs, just as there are Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Americans.

What is the Arab World?

The Arab World consists of 22 countries in the Middle East and North Africa: Algeria, Bahrain, the Comoros Islands, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Iran and Turkey are not Arab countries and their primary languages are Farsi and Turkish respectively. Arab countries have a rich diversity of ethnic, linguistic, and religious communities. These include Kurds, Armenians, Berbers and others. There are over 300 million Arabs.

What is the Muslim World?

There are an estimated 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. The Organization of Islamic Countries has 55 member states. The ten countries with the largest Muslim population are: Indonesia (170.3 million), Pakistan (136 million), Bangladesh (106 million), India (103 million), Turkey (62.4 million), Iran (60.7 million), Egypt (53.7 million), Nigeria (47.7 million) and China (37.1 million). Of these countries only Egypt is an Arab country. Most Arabs are Muslims, but most Muslims are not Arabs.

Who is a Muslim?

A Muslim is a follower of Islam. (See the separate ADC information sheet on Islam)

What is the Middle East?

The Middle East is a loose term, not always used to describe the same territory. It usually includes the Arab countries from Egypt east to the Persian Gulf, plus Israel and Iran. Turkey is sometimes considered part of the Middle East, sometimes part of Europe. Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh are usually described as South Asia.

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Oghuz Turks - From Wikipedia

The Oghuz, Oguz or Ghuzz Turks were a western Turkic people who spoke the Oghuz languages from the Common branch of Turkic language family. In the 8th century, they formed a tribal confederation conventionally named the Oghuz Yabgu State in central Asia. The name Oghuz is a Common Turkic word for "tribe". By the 10th century, Islamic sources were calling the Muslim, as opposed to shamanist or Christian, Oghuz the Turkmens. By the 12th century this term had passed into Byzantine usage and the Oghuzes were overwhelmingly Muslim.

The Oghuz confederation migrated westward from the Jeti-su area after a conflict with the Karluk branch of Uigurs. The founders of the Ottoman Empire were descendants of the Oghuzes. Today the residents of Turkey, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Khorezm, Turkmens of Afghanistan, Balkans, Iraq and Syria are descendants of Oghuz Turks and their language belongs to the Oghuz (a.k.a. southwestern Turkic) group of the Turkic languages family.

According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, the Balkans are usually said to comprise Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Kosovo,[a] the Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, while Greece and Turkey are often included.

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^As you can clearly see, an Albino calling oneself "Arab" is merely another opportunity for Albinos to play "Make believe" that they have a history, and are more than simply murderous, marauding, Albinos, killing and grabbing whatever they could.

But certainly - THEY ARE NOT ARABS!

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SOCATRA PEOPLE


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^See there lioness:

I try to help you avoid being endlessly called STUPID, by explaining exactly WHO those FAKE Arabs are - using Wiki btw.

And how do you thank me?

By destroying the thread with oversized images.

That's not nice lioness.

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Btw - I assume those Wiki articles revealing the real TURK identity of So-called White Arabs was motivated by me.

As I know of no-one else who has been teaching it for these many years.

And who but I, had to endure the inane comments from the ignorant, when they were told that the nonsense the Albinos was teaching them, was just that - Nonsense!

As a matter of fact lioness - I believe you were one of them.

He,he,he:

No wonder you try to destroy the thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
[QB] ^See there lioness:

I try to help you avoid being endlessly called STUPID, by explaining exactly WHO those FAKE Arabs are - using Wiki btw.

And how do you thank me?

By destroying the thread with oversized images.

That's not nice lioness.

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As far as indigenous people living in the peninsula you suggested that people in Socatra (who have lived in relatively isolated circumstances preserving basal J* although also a mixed population of Yemenites, Indians and Africans) were the only Arabs.

You debunked yourself with the quotes indicating "Arab" is a cultural term and it doesn't go back that far.

The pictures I posted were not oversize to cause a scrolling problem, the crying is unnecessary. So you should be thanking me for posting Socatra people, people who you brought up....stupid

However the biological concept that J = Arab is not traditional as per the culture, the difference between "Arabian" and "Arab"

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Repost,




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Population comparisons

Based on FST values, the mitochondrial genetic diversity of Soqotra is statistically different (P \ 0.01) from the comparative populations. An MDS plot of FST values shows that the Soqotra sample is clearly distinct from all sub-Saharan, North African, Middle East, and Indian populations (see Fig. 2). High differentiation of the East African groups such as the Sandawe, Hadza, Turu, Datog, and Burunge is shown on the left side of the graph. However, there is a general similarity of the remaining sub-Saharan African populations, particularly those from the Sahel band and the Chad Basin (with the exception of the Fulani nomads). Subsequently, there is a transitional zone formed by the populations from Ethiopia and the Nile Valley but also by some Yemeni groups, particularly the ones from the eastern parts of the country (Hadramawt). Finally, the cluster on the right part of the graph is composed by the Indian populations on the top, the Near and Middle Eastern groups in the middle and the populations of the Arabian peninsula at the bottom; Yemeni Jews being slightly different. The only outlier within the region of southwestern Asia is the Kalash sample that is situated on the extreme right part of the graph (see also Quintana-Murci et al., 2004). There is a general cline among all populations in the MDS plot from the Soqotri population to a cluster of Middle East and North African populations that splits into sub-Saharan and Indian populations.

Population differentiation of Soqotra from African, Middle East and Indian populations based on NRY-SNP data manifests a similar picture although the compara- tive populations are different and fewer than in the mi- tochondrial DNA analysis (see Fig. 3). A comparison of FST values shows that the only population that is not significantly different from Soqotra is that from Yemen (P [ 0.01). Similarly to mtDNA MDS plot, we observe a cline from the Soqotri population to a cluster of Middle East and North African populations that splits into sub- Saharan and Indian populations.


Phylogenetic affiliations


Within the Soqotri samples, we identified haplotypes belonging to three of the main branches of the mtDNA phylogeny (macrohaplogroups L, N, and R); notably hap- logroup M is absent (Table 2). There are only two sub- Saharan L haplotypes and they do not carry the 3594HpaI mutation so their classification is L3*; these haplotypes do not contain the specific mutations of L5b (23594HpaI) (Kivisild et al., 2004) and therefore they are possibly L3h2 as they both contain substitutions at 16111, 16184, and 16304 (see Behar et al., 2008). Macro- haplogroup N is represented by three different haplo- types of which only one can be unambiguously classified as N1a (it contains HVS-I motif 16147G-16172-16223-16248-16355). Two other N haplotypes have never been found outside Soqotra (see Table 2).

The most widespread mtDNA types in Soqotra belong to macrohaplogroup R (Table 2). The majority of R haplo- types can be classified as R0a [previously known as (preHV)1]. Three of the R haplotypes have not been previously reported. A network analysis of all Soqotri R0a haplotypes with additional sequences from Africa and Asia (see Fig. 4) shows a time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) of 23,339 6 8,232 YBP for R0a. It is shown that the majority of Soqotri R0a haplotypes fall into clade R0a1 (defined by variant 16355) whose TMRCA is 11,418 6 4,198 YBP. Furthermore, within R0a1, the unique Soqotri haplotypes form a new clade that is defined by variant 16172 and that we have named R0a1a1. Abu-Amero et al. (2007) identified a hap- lotype defined by variant 16355 and named it (preHV)1a1, thus it corresponds to R0a1a using the newer nomenclature and the unique Soqotri haplotypes are derived from this lineage). This Soqotri-specific clade has a very young TMRCA (3,363 6 2,378 YBP) that sug- gests the R0a1a1 haplotypes evolved on Soqotra and have not dispersed elsewhere. Two other Soqotri R hap- lotypes are not classified further than R* and are quite common in neighboring populations. Five haplotypes within macrohaplogroup R carry the 4216N1aIII variant that places them in clade JT. Of the JT haplotypes, two are unique to Soqotra; J1b is represented by two individuals and T* is represented by one individual.

The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%), with most (45 out of 54) unclassified as J*(xJ1,J2) and a few (the remaining 9 samples) classified as J1 (see Fig. 5). It is interesting to note that NRY haplotypes lacking both M172 and M267, as in our unclassified J*, have not been previously identified on the Arabian Peninsula (Cadenas et al., 2008). Haplogroup E is represented at a frequency of 9.5% and three other haplogroups, F*(xJ,K), K*(xO,P) and R*(xR1b), are present in one individual each. It is worth noting that none of the ancient African haplogroups (A and B) were observed in Soqotra.



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Ironically is the Soqotra variety, in addition to what lionass posted already:


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Further more we have other Southern Arabians:


Akhdam
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Qarra
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Hawt
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boobytrap.

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